Banjo Kazooie Cant Be Ignored Any Longer

Edited by: ‪@Bloops‬
Will Rare ever make another Banjo Kazooie? Well Id like a Remake if not a all new game. Please Please Please
Subscribe to the MAIN CHANNEL for more of my voice! / @boundarybreak
Support me on PATREON! / boundarybreak
Discord! discord.gg/boundarybreak
Twitter! / boundarybreak
Other Channels!
/ @boundarybreak
/ @outofboundscontentlon...
/ @gameclubpodcast
#banjokazooie #nintendo64 #xbox
Commenting corrections, constructive criticism or distaste of the content is accepted. However, negative/hateful comments, posting incorrect corrections, or generally promoting misinformation will be removed. Let's keep it kind, civil and respectful.

[@VTRcomics]

Man, having grown up with hundreds of hours just VIBING across Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie, I think it's understated how much polish and refinement the whole genre took from those games in particular. Expressive character acting, bouncy and fun models, nevermind the mechanical changes that took until Mario Odyssey for Nintendo to cave in on and respect. It's telling that other collect-a-thons like Jak & Daxter immediately went got similar styles because that flow of being in a level and only leaving when you wanted felt far more organic and never let you lose progress. Really, Rare just understood that kids would get lost and still have fun in their easy to understand worlds with great landmarks and simple geometry. A part of me really does hope Playtonic & Rare collaborate for a remake or new game all things considered. Who knows, maybe we can come full circle and have Yooka-Laylee meet the bear and bird. Either way, I couldn't agree more on the world needing more Banjo.

[@mettlezero]

The day I give up on the idea of a new Banjo-Kazooie is the day they put me in the ground!

[@sampicano]

They can take our lives! But they should ALSO MAKE BANJO THREEEEEE!

[@AustrianReaper]

Still wouldn't. I would just give up on the idea of me getting to play it.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@sampicano Rare said they runout of ideas for Banjo and want to move on to new projects.

[@sampicano]

@@orangeslash1667 Rare said they are running out of ideas for new projects and want to move on to new ones? Stay quiet they didn't say that. Since 2015 Rare has released - rare replay (a collection of OLD GAMES) - sea of thieves (flopped massively) - battletoads (an old game) What' wrong with you? Why even comment if you are wrong?

[@orangeslash1667]

@@sampicano While Sea of Thieves started out bad, it got so many updates that it become successful. It says that in 2024, SOT reached 40 million players. Right now Rare is working on Everwild. Also both games are directed by Gregg Mayles, the creator of Banjo Kazooie. As for Battletoads 2020, Rare barely had any involvement at all.

[@captndingpot3981]

Toys for Bob are still partnering up with Microsoft. They just announced that they're working on their first project together since going independent. But I think they're most likely busy with the rumored Spyro 4 if the rumors are true that it started development this January.

[@sampicano]

I NEED SPYRO 4....THE GAMES INDUSTRY IS DYING....MEANWHILE 24 YEARS AND NO SPYRO 4.....

[@4ryan42]

My reaction to a BK remaster would he simple... "Shut up and take my money!"

[@orangeslash1667]

Rare said they runout of ideas for Banjo and want to move one to new projects.

[@BlazertronGames]

Combining the first and second games into one is a great idea!

[@reinatycoon3644]

I never played one but they are still nostalgic lol. That is because I used to see the commercials all the time back in the late 90's. This is the same story as with Medievil for the ps1. Those 1998 commercials will always be in my memory.

[@LasagneProductions]

A new Banjo-Kazooie game would definitely be considered the fourth one. Rare's stance on the matter has been perfectly clear on Nuts & Bolts being a direct, canon sequel to Tooie, and that a future game would not be called "Threeie" (pretty sure Mr. Gregg Mayles himself said that as matter of fact).

[@AbyssHeroine]

literally every banjo kazooie game, even nuts and bolts, is great.

[@KotBox]

Speaking truth. Nuts and Bolts rocks. And the GBA games are incredibly fun

[@SolarFarle]

I grew up with all the Banjo Kazooie games. Except for Grunty's Revenge.

[@KotBox]

@@SolarFarle if you get a chance, I would highly recommend giving Gruntys Revenge a go! It's definitely a lighter game, but they managed to make it feel like a proper BK title crammed on the GBA

[@SolarFarle]

@@KotBox I've played Grunty's Revenge a few times on an emulator a few years back. It's a good game like the rest of the series.

[@BLOODY__FATALITY]

Ah, somebody talking about the best video game series of all time. What a nice day.

[@mechashadow]

Rare: We can and We Will!

[@robertwilliamson2856]

I have no faith today's Rare could make a good Banjo game. It's just not the same game studio it was in the 90s.

[@scott8919]

Just think of all the microtransactions for outfits they could offer.

[@kreenbopulusmichael7205]

the guys who actually did make those old games tried and failed, I just dont think those games hold up as much as we want them too

[@lpnp9477]

​@@kreenbopulusmichael7205you're wrong on both accounts.

[@masterowl123]

It's not the same game studio period, I don't think any of the original devs are there and when it comes to sequels years and years later. it's always going to be a different team making something more or less completely different. point I'm trying to make is, "hey maybe let's not do this. y'know I don't think people were clamoring for a bambi 2 now. let's do something else"

[@Slater2113]

@@kreenbopulusmichael7205I played YL a few months ago and thought it was about as good as anything else they’ve made

[@Turretguy]

Can’t believe you went the entire video without mentioning Yooka Laylee

[@Scrubber89]

I agree, my big need from life before I die is a new Banjo-Kazooie game. I’d love a Remake of the first two games then a brand new game following those 2 games.

[@nocapsbb]

Been loving the videos on this channel, keep it up :)

[@Pheicou]

I did some fanart in my Twitter a while ago just about that one huge game combining the two games. I hope this is what they're cooking.

[@lpnp9477]

That title is a little cromulent and a little gormless

[@8BitAlchemy]

Yeah absolutely man it's wild that such a blockbuster series hit a snag in the third main entry and then just disappeared completely! I also really liked the GBA game it's so much fun

[@Tasuke]

I'd love another BK game! A remake would be cool though I'd prefer a proper Banjo Three-ie. Though I guess a remaster of both games or even just one would be best to garner interest.

[@KotBox]

I've wanted that "mega-game" concept for so long! It would be a great way to really bring back Banjo in a lively and creative way! I think BK will return eventually, just seems like between Rare an Xbox they want to make sure they really get it right if they do. Especially if it's being done by an outside developer.

[@Davygod]

Do you know about Banjo-Threeie from Project Dream?

[@forrestannis909]

Do you know about Lanky Turtle Media? They worked on Banjo on here.

[@Davygod]

@@forrestannis909 Yes, and I have also seen the fan-made show. DarkGruntMusic is also a collaborator for the music.

[@SirPaladinThundercake]

Needs to be getting more recognition honestly. That trailer captured my dreams. Project Dream - Namesake lol

[@Wolfm708]

Plot twist! Shesez is actually working on the Banjo Kazooie remake and is actually keeping it as secret!

[@FibonacciDDR42175]

I always thought it'd be a cool idea to have crossover between BK and BT stages, like how the Tooie stages were really inter-connected. That or some way or reason to have to explore the Lair in Tooie and revisit and see changes in the first game's worlds.

[@goss0055]

If Yooka Laylee did better, I wonder if it would have encouraged Microsoft to push out a new Banjo Kazooie game. There was so much hype leading up to it but once it came out it just flopped. That being said, Super Mario Odyssey proved that there is still a place in the market for the old collect-a-thon genre. I hope one day we get to see our favourite Bear and Bird return.

[@hannahlovescats91]

There's a lot of 64 games I'd like to see done. Banjo is one, Gex (which I've seen rumors about), Rocket: Robot On Wheels and Space Station: Silicon Valley. Maybe even the Turok games as well. And although not as old, Fur Fighters for the DreamCast/PS2 I'd love an updated port for that, I always hated it didn't get it's sequel either. I love the updated graphics because since I was 18 I've had health issues that have affected my eyesight so the updated graphics helps a lot. I actually cried when I played Spyro: Reignited because that is and has always been my favorite series and it was so breathtakingly beautiful!

[@saulitix]

Boy, I was just talking about these games with my brother.

[@leolightfellow]

I think that would work great. There've been a lot of series collections released on the switch such as Grandia collection, Baten Kaitos collection, Crash Bandicoot collection, etc.

[@RiverReeves23]

At this point, fans should remake the game, say it is never going to be published and then license it from Rare to publish it on Steam. Fans, rom hackers and indie devs are doing a better job than game devs these days.

[@amh7912]

hat in time team maybe could be involved?

[@Zenlore6499]

I’d love a new game, and I’d even take a big remaster! The bear and bird deserve a comeback!

[@joebykaeby]

I often fantasize about a remake of these games that combines the maps and reworks some of the worlds to do the inter-connectivity they tried in Tooie but actually do it right this time

[@Gator159]

What would you do to make stop and swap good? I honestly don't remember the original goal with that aside from new abilities you eventually get in the official release of Banjo-Tooie anyway

[@hipstersephiroth3722]

Thank you being so kind d help me and these people to better understand you God amen

[@bahamutbbob]

Banjo Kazooie was alright. When I finally played Banjo Tooie, I haaaaated it! Nuts & Bolts was fun, but it could have had any characters, it didn't need to be a Banjo game.

[@Ashley6100]

A note that a lot of people seem to miss - the Xbox 360 versions of Banjo Kazooie/Tooie were mild remasters. The graphics had been upscaled and they introduced a version of Stop N Swop where collecting items in one gave you stuff in the other, ending in you getting profile pictures and such. Obviously not the original intention or process but it was nice for them to put it in regardless. They also altered the way notes collection worked, the pickups were permanent and did not have to be recollected if you died, unlike the original. (this accidentally introduced a nasty bug where if you watched a particular demo video on the title screen where Banjo picks up a note it wouldn't spawn in the level, thankfully it was patched)

[@gazmd]

I literally thought of the same idea of keeping it one big mega game last night. It’s good to see I’m not the only who thinks it should be

[@beet111]

i remember playing banjo when it came bundles with my Xbox 360. pretty fun game

[@RazorBladezX]

I am with you with Gruntys Revenge that game was so fun!!

[@elCondeY]

Maybe one day 😢

[@36Kite36]

Love your new show. 😸🪁

[@reinatycoon3644]

Me as well.

[@RotcodFox]

I just subscribed and watched a few videos, but honestly I'm not really a massive fan of most of the games that you've been talking about. I like Mario games, but I wish you made more videos about Playstation exclusives, Valve games, PC games, or big gaming news stories and controversies. Also I wish your videos were a bit longer, and also like 8db louder cuz they're kinda quiet

[@JayPsych47]

Nuts and Bolts was a great game but not a great BANJO game. I agree the original was a true masterpiece we desperately need a faithful remake of. Banjo Threeie is a distant dream at this point so I would settle for that

[@BlulesBlue]

as a kid i never played this game because i thought it was a cheap mario clone

[@thgjardim]

I wish we could have a remake of those old N64 games, with new models for the characters and environment.

[@SJMan2022]

I hope that one day Banjo Tooie (Alongside DK 64 and Diddy Kong Racing, and maybe banjo pilot and Grunty's Revenge) can all come to NSO one day

[@HawkinsXCV]

A banjo Kazooie remake/remaster should get the Spyro Reignited treatment

[@gnm651]

A man can only dream. Id take remakes of both games instead of a new one at this point

[@904funny]

There was a chance that Toy’s for Bob was going to do it, but they just did layoffs

[@FrozenZerg]

Shesez i think your idea of a secondary channel for the news is a great idea, but i don't see why you made a 3rd with large videos, you should put those videos on your main channel in another section/playlist. Anyway, getting a Banjo Treeie would be a dream of a project (do you get it ? haha)

[@ShesezTheNews]

Not a bad idea

[@orangeslash1667]

@@ShesezTheNews Banjo was never met to continue. The original intention for Rare is to create an adventure game called Project Dream on the SNES, but it was moved to the N 64, it wasn't working for some reason. Mostly like because realistic games can be difficult to work on N 64, such as Golden Eye. So Project Dream became Banjo Kazooie. However now that the N 64 era has ended, Rare no longer needs the Banjo and Kazooie. Why, DK 64. People did not like the backtracking of that game, and while Banjo Tooie's backtracking isn't as bad. Rare might be worried that another Banjo game would suffer the same problems as DK 64 if not worse. It's sad but it's true, some of the greatest games exists because of hardware limitations. The good news is that collect-a-thons do exist in indie games has as Demon Turf Neon Splash, Hat in Time, Fez, and Tinykin. There's also the Shantae series, it's not a collect a-ton but does have transformations similar to Banjo.

[@kreenbopulusmichael7205]

@@orangeslash1667 thats dumb, rare could simply design the game without those issues ? what ?

[@orangeslash1667]

@@kreenbopulusmichael7205 Rare confirmed that there was a Banjo Threeie in the works, but it had to be canceled due over ambition and hardware issues. So Nuts and Bolts was made instead. So Rare probably run out of ideas for Banjo after that??? Remember Banjo in general was made out of obligation because Project Dream didn't work on N 64, but the N 64,GBA era is over now. Once again we still have indie games.

[@kreenbopulusmichael7205]

@@orangeslash1667 why would they run out of ideas ? you jsut said they were working on a third, so that means they had ideas.... and since nuts and bolts wast a platformer..... they could still use those ideas....

[@Invy-PT]

I dont like the idea of conjoining Kazooie and Tooie, not only would it take longer for both remasters, but would also be mad confusing for new fans and existing fans.

[@Mcl_Blue]

At this point, I'd be happy if they just ported Rare Replay to PC, or even just the Banjo games. Hell, put Nuts & Bolts on PC and I might actually give it a shot.

[@chrisbeach423]

I think they missed their opportunity after Banjo got announced for Smash 5 years ago. If they made a remaster of Kazooie/Tooie for Xbox and Switch they would have made bank.. I think the ship has done sailed. They were to worried about Sea of Thieves..Also I been saying making Kazooie/Tooie 1 mega remaster game for years! Glad someone else shares my opinion!! I love Banjo, but we will probably never get another game.. if they were going to do it, they would have done it 3 years ago 😢

[@chrisbeach423]

But I guess one little bit of hope.. is Gamestop is preordering the Banjo Kazooie funko pops right now. They come out in June!

[@masterowl123]

7:20 Make the video games *I* want you to make!

[@DannyVerno]

Imagine they drop a new Nuts n Bolts

[@BasVoet]

I’d love to play a new Banjo game. And since Xbox is bringing games to other platforms as well, I’d prefer to play it on the Swtich (2)!

[@SirPaladinThundercake]

Look at the Banjo Three trailer from Project Dream. It'll only make you more frustrated at why current day companies are so out of touch lately compared to fan made content. I don't have high hopes for the Rare today. Way more likely for an independent company to rise up and make something great to be honest

[@Hobbittastic]

wonder if retro would be a good fit? their style with the dk games would go well with an updated banjo kazooie style imo.

[@gazmd]

They’re owned by Nintendo

[@Hobbittastic]

@@gazmd i figured since they have the original on the nso and in smash maybe theyd come up with some agreement. but that's a good point- it's probably way more complicated than that 😓

[@bloodblues85]

Yeah! :D

[@SteveNorwalt]

Sorry, I'm a bit of a grammar nazi, and seeing "a all new game" in the description is slightly triggering. Alright, with that out of the way, I would totally love a remaster of the original or something. As soon as B&K popped up on Switch Online, I straight up 100% it.

[@PickleLipsMiguel]

I don't think they will never make a new Banjo-Kazooie, and I doubt that they will ever do a remaster. One of the key problems, I believe, is that no one can agree on what made Banjo-Kazooie THE SERIES great. To me, Banjo-Kazooie 1 was great because it was lighthearted, had a simple premise, the worlds were bright and fun, and the game was just a joy to play through. I personally believe they lost the plot immediately, as Banjo-Tooie was darker, more convoluted, bigger without being better, less aesthetically pleasing, more dour, and just generally not fun. The series itself has an identity/branding problem. There is a huge swath of fans that prefer Banjo-Tooie over BK. Returning to something that is more BK than BT would upset BT fans, and they would say the series took a step backwards, while making a game more like BT would be less appealing to fans like me that love the first one, and we'd say the devs forgot what made the original BK great. On top of that, Nuts & Bolts (which, to my understanding, is almost universally hated by fans of BK and BT because it has nothing to do gameplay-wise with the first two games) still has its own group of fans that are young enough to have missed the first entries and love the vehicle creation system. N&B was really ahead of its time, with Minecraft coming out just a few years later. To make things more convoluted, Playtonic's Yooka-Laylee, which was made by a bunch of ex-Rare people that worked on the first two Banjo-Kazooies, was not well received at all. YL captured none of the charm or fun that made people love the BK games, and even though it was crowd funded, it still disappointed fans (it didn't help that it was being pushed as the spiritual successor to Banjo-Kazooie). There were numerous interviews with the devs after its release documenting their disappointment and frustration that people did not like Yooka-Laylee. We're 26 years out now from the original Banjo-Kazooie, and 3D platformers are practically dead. Remasters like Crash and Spyro were well received by fans, but did not bring in loads of money. Greg Mayles is entirely too busy making bank with Sea of Thieves to care about BK, and I don't think he ever really cared that much about the series anyways. As the head of Rare, the fate of the series is up to him. That Microsoft, with its unending supply of money, hasn't done squat with the series in almost 2 decades since Nuts & Bolts should show how disinterested they are in ever doing anything with the franchise. They will dangle merchandise and tease appearances like in Smash Bros, but I doubt we will ever see anything. I would love to eat crow on this, but Banjo-Kazooie is likely dead. I think you can still get Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie on Xbox Live, and although the ports are a bit jank, it at least runs better than the N64 version's 24 fps.

[@SerialK1986]

Why not let Playtonic Games handle it? most of the people who worked on Banjo Kazooie were part of the team within Rare who made those games in the past. I know some will reply with: "Well, they made Yooka-Laylee, and that game sucked!", to which I'll humbly respond with: Fair enough, then, who else do you recommend handling the remakes? I'm happy to read some suggestions.

[@SirPaladinThundercake]

I feel like if given another chance, they'd learn from their mistakes.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@SirPaladinThundercake Yooka-Laylee is geting a remaster.

[@masterowl123]

3:22 I don't know how you read what greg said but didn't understand what he meant. also calling something a "thriving IP" like a marketing exec is weird.

[@colbyhallowell3284]

But like... I want Conker

[@AppleGreenmusic]

The people who made conker don't even wanna make another Conker.

[@samuelg7673]

Say cap right now

[@ShesezTheNews]

Cap tan Amer Ica

[@dissonanceparadiddle]

I hate to say phil spencer is not........a great guy so that's not really giving me a lot of hope. that being said I won't look a gift horse in the mouth.

[@kostismpak1266]

ITS LIKE PEOPLE ASKED DA VINCI FOR MORE MONA LISA AND DAVINCI FROWNED TURNED HIS BACK AND WALKED AWAY! WOULD YOU CONSIDER HIM A PROFESSIONAL DESPITE HIS WORK OF MONA LISA???

[@kostismpak1266]

BANJO KAZOOIE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED LIKE ZELDA A CONTINUOUS ADVENTURE! THATS HOW WE BANJO FANS HAD ALWAYS EXPECTED THIS GAME TO BE! UNFORTUNATELY GREG SHUT THE DOOR INFRONT OF OUR CHILDHOOD DREAMS,BUT HE FORGOT WHO HOLDS THE KEY!😊😊😊😊

[@bryguy9233]

You always look like your about to break down and cry. I cant explain it lol. Just look like your constantly struggling emotionally man

[@ShesezTheNews]

It's because I don't have a Banjo-Threeie in my life

[@yodizzle]

:)

[@Trengenator]

Grant Kirkhope in generally seems a lot more miserable/curmudgeonly after his big temper tantrum with The Super Mario Movie

[@PickleLipsMiguel]

He grew bitter after Yooka-Laylee was poorly received, and he's driven off a lot of his big music fans in interactions on twitter. "Curmudgeonly" I think is the perfect word for it.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@PickleLipsMiguel Banjo was never met to continue. The original intention for Rare is to create an adventure game called Project Dream on the SNES, but it was moved to the N 64, it wasn't working for some reason. Mostly like because realistic games can be difficult to work on N 64, such as Golden Eye. So Project Dream became Banjo Kazooie. However now that the N 64 era has ended, Rare no longer needs the Banjo and Kazooie. Why, DK 64. People did not like the backtracking of that game, and while Banjo Tooie's backtracking isn't as bad. Rare might be worried that another Banjo game would suffer the same problems as DK 64 if not worse. It's sad but it's true, some of the greatest games exists because of hardware limitations. The good news is that collect-a-thons do exist in indie games has as Demon Turf Neon Splash, Hat in Time, Fez, and Tinykin. There's also the Shantae series, it's not a collect a-ton but does have transformations similar to Banjo.

[@kreenbopulusmichael7205]

never heard of this, what did he do ?

[@orangeslash1667]

@@kreenbopulusmichael7205 He was really upset the he wasn't credited for the DK rap used in the film, since he made it.

[@zachariah74]

​@@orangeslash1667 Shit, I'd be mad too.

[@wesleyhermans1894]

I realy wish a banjo kazooie or tooie HD remake a physical form for the Swith 🥲🥲🥲like they did for Mario. Rpg