Bankai Yamamoto is FAR STRONGER Than You Think

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@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817
@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817 Жыл бұрын
Lmao there's some fanboys saying Jugo beats Yama. Because of the balance and the fact that he couldn't fully kill Royd.
@pacmiller7564
@pacmiller7564 Жыл бұрын
What? That's so blasphemous to say Yamamoto bodies jugram
@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817
@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817 Жыл бұрын
@@pacmiller7564 Yeah maybe if Jugram has the Auswahlen buff and Almighty maybe he can beat Yama.
@edmund1737
@edmund1737 Жыл бұрын
@@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817 no he can’t. lol. Even uryu could hold his own against jugram. C’mon let’s stop the bs.
@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817
@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817 Жыл бұрын
@@edmund1737 Well if Jugram can survive ZnT North then he wins. I'm not against Jugram beating Yama. It's a 50/50 bro.
@edmund1737
@edmund1737 Жыл бұрын
@@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817 nah it’s really not. Sure he has some hax but I honestly think he can’t take a single hit of Yama’s bankai. Honestly Yama doesn’t even need his bankai. His shikai is more than enough. Jugram isn’t even on the level of characters like Gerald or Lillie barro
@Shinigami1513
@Shinigami1513 Жыл бұрын
Ive been saying old man yama is above his younger self
@brandonharrison60162
@brandonharrison60162 Жыл бұрын
For being all about bleach you miss things like ywach telling Yamamoto hes gotten weaker once he lost his arm. That's part of why he wasn't on the 5 potential threats list.
@sageoverheaven
@sageoverheaven Жыл бұрын
It wasn't about power there imo. It was about the mentality shift of not wanting to exploit humans. Yamamoto was no longer the demon with a sword, and no longer the murderous captain commander of the worst criminals in SS history. That's why he didn't make the list: he went soft, and would no longer win by any means necessary.
@fahimmaf2469
@fahimmaf2469 Жыл бұрын
I think Yama low ball is planetary+ because its confirmed that Yama could destroy the entire of Soul Socitey. This is for high ball Yama, he could destroy the SS which means there would be unbalance in the World of the living and Heuco Mundo. This means he would effect the entire Bleach universe. So, i think Yama high ball is Universal.
@ConfesstoChrist
@ConfesstoChrist Жыл бұрын
Facts
@cheesespray1
@cheesespray1 Жыл бұрын
Also the soul society is a mirror of the WoL which is our world irl with our ever expanding universe. In a sense yama is universal from the soul society feat because soul society is more than a planet. It has stars and outer space just like our world
@fahimmaf2469
@fahimmaf2469 Жыл бұрын
@@cheesespray1 yeah tru i agree 100%, but some narutards or luffytards out there just down play bleach. They cant accept the facts.
@SMGTTY
@SMGTTY Жыл бұрын
Id go further to believe that SS is the size of both hueco mundo & the real world. Remember hollows, after purified go to soul society so that means SS = HM + RW which makes sense. So i would suggest at a minimum he is multi planetary. What makes him more of a monster is he has no plot armor like Aizen(Hogyoku) Yhwach (Soul King) or Ichigo (Omi breed). Much respect!
@chrisboricua1911
@chrisboricua1911 Жыл бұрын
he aint aizen or yhwach cmon now universal is a bit out there for yama hes probably large star to solar system at best but still a beast rip yamamoto
@manuelacosta9463
@manuelacosta9463 Жыл бұрын
It's flaming hellish theme is suitable for someone who was once a ruthless warlord who slaughtered his way around remorselessly before settling to lead a military organization. Even Aizen had to create a specific contingency to deal with it at Fake Karakura.
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Жыл бұрын
I guess so, not like Aizen has any water or fire power that he just throws around with a simple movement of his sword.
@kyronmceachron1862
@kyronmceachron1862 Жыл бұрын
All this Yama slander is crazy, Yamamoto wasnt at full power when he fought royd because he lost his right arm, it's stated multiple times that characters are stronger with two arms instead of one for example, Kenpachi one shot nnotira after using two arms, Grimmjow lost his rank after losing his arm and regained his rank after gaining his arm back ect.
@brandonharrison60162
@brandonharrison60162 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, ywach Bach even mentions him being weaker because he doesn't have both arms and that's why he wasn't a war potential. Because he'd gotten weaker
@lo4tr
@lo4tr Жыл бұрын
It is explicitly stated that Reiatsu vents from the wrists, meaning that being down an arm roughly cuts power in half. Either it A) causes twice the stress on an individual because they can only vent half as much excess energy or B) it means they can only use half the amount of Reiryoku at one time. Plus, Yamamoto was deliberately trying to torture Yhwach. He could have ended him at any point but chose to use his other abilities for no reason. He even states he could have crushed him right from the start but was trying to force out everything from Yhwach first.
@bobby31723
@bobby31723 Жыл бұрын
We don't need the anime to know that Yhwach became massivelly stronger during the Ichibe fight. Not because he unlocked the Almighty, but because" the 9 years of strengh" passed, wich made him regained his true strengh wich in turn, make him able to control The Almighty. As Jugram clearly state, Yhwach could have used The Almighty at any point prior the Ichibe fight, but had he done so before "The 9 years of strengh" were up, he would need to absorb all of the strenritter's power to compensate for his own weakened state and be able to fully wield and control The Almighty. So not only he unlocked broken hax, he also regained his true strengh and power during the Ichibe fight. it's all stated clearly. The Almighty require a certain level of power to be able to be used a full efficiency, wich is certainly why Jugram's version of The Almighty is far weaker than Yhwach's own. Jugram being far inferior in power compared to Yhwach.
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Жыл бұрын
Couldnt have said it better myself
@asura3229
@asura3229 Жыл бұрын
But Yamamoto be past version of Yamamoto who had his true power and almighty, even if you say he doesn’t scale to Almighty it’s not like ichibei does ether
@bobby31723
@bobby31723 Жыл бұрын
@@asura3229 We clearly see in the anime that Yhwach doesn't have The Almighty during his fight with Yama 1k years ago. I looked at all the flashbacks in ep 6 and Yhwach always had 1 pupil in his eyes, meaning no Almighty. Yes, i know that it's showned in the manga that he have The Almighty in the past, but clearly he didn't had it when he fought Yama. Maybe it will be explained one day . As for Yama vs Ichibe, Yama lost to a much weaker Yhwach( As Yhwach got much stronger during the war from all the souls he absorbed when he got to sleep) and got one shotted. Ichibe actually completely dominated a much stronger Yhwach than the one who one shotted Yama. Not to mention that Yhwach clearly state that you need to be relative to your opponent to control his bankai ,meaning Yhwach was already strong enough at the very begining of the war(Before all the boost from the souls he got during it and the "9 years of strengh") to pose a threat to Yama. Also , Ichibe actually survived and could still fight after a reish sword slash from soul boosted and post 9 years of strengh Almighty Yhwach. Yama got oneshotted by the weakest base Yhwach since the start of the arc.
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Жыл бұрын
@@bobby31723 Facts
@asura3229
@asura3229 Жыл бұрын
@@bobby31723 Maybe Yama beat it out of him, Maybe it didn’t work because there was no timeline where he would even touch Yamamoto, ether way he was supposed to have it, we were only showing bits and pieces of the flashback so who knows. Yamamoto by existing would kill all the quinsies if he fights for too long, or if his Bankai touches them once, I don’t see how adding their power would do anything, it’s not like he’s gaining the hacks (because we never see him use them). Nobody even noticed the increase nor was it stated by how much, Calling him much stronger is a stretch. The bankai stealing thing doesn’t matter It would’ve happened to Ichibei but he has hax against that meaning the fact yuha can steal his banki means there relative enough to control his zanpakuto shikai, even though Ichibei bodies. I don’t think his bank works before the shikai so it’s Banki Yamamoto vs Shikai Ichibei for the most part. He got one shoted When he lost one arm, tired from using his banki and he gave up and let it happen because he knew he was fuked. Which was yuha’s plan, we seen in the flashback Yuha didn’t even injury Yamamoto once and it was stated he held back. He survived because of his hax that is nothing to do power in a fight, he’s not dealing with one arm, exhausted and given up Yamamoto, this is full power Yama we’re talking.
@chungusfungus9779
@chungusfungus9779 Жыл бұрын
So basically there a few things Yama has all the strongest shinigami statements , even one in a data book where ichibei is included Aswell as the strongest shinigami statements he also has the strongest Zanpaktou statements Yama can’t be sensed in Bankai by Haschwalth, Haschwalth comes to the conclusion that heat can’t be visible at such a high temperature and so the only logical conclusion comes to is that Yamas SP too ridiculous this is transcendent scaling . Aizen in Muken refers to bankais Yamas sp as Unpleasant Yuha only killed a base Yama after he stole the Bankai and I don’t believe Yuha can even use the Bankai as Yuha himself says the other sternwritter could steal it just that they couldn’t control it but then Yuha doesn’t control it / use it The whole narrative supports the fact that Yuha didn’t want to fight the Bankai at all and so waits for Yama to exert his sp Where as Yuha doesn’t even care for ichibeis Zanpaktou at all and doesn’t even try to steal it . Sure ichibei fights real Yuha and gets better feats but that’s cuz he fights him , Yuha didn’t want to fight Yama and so came up with a literal plot device that steals bankais lol And ichibei in Bankai doesn’t threaten the SS at all neither does Eos Bankai ichigo . Where as Bankai Yama casually existing does I think people give too much credit to Yuha in killing Yama , he killed a base version after taking away his exhausted power and other characters in the series just seem straight up uneasy being around Yama but think ichibei is just an average dude Another thing about the Trancendent sp of Yama is that when in Bankai people didn’t recognise it by sensing Yamas Reaitsu but rather what was happening to the universe and came to the conclusion he was in Bankai it’s not like they felt a giant surge in power they couldn’t feel it like Hashwalth
@stuckboiss3187
@stuckboiss3187 Жыл бұрын
Agree wholeheartedly Ichimonji is more of a concept bankai, whereas Yamas was literally universe threatening with the power to back it up, didn’t get touched a single time
@ShaudL
@ShaudL Жыл бұрын
Ichibei doesn’t have a zanpaktou, stating Yammy has the strongest one (statements were made before TS Ichigo) doesn’t negate the fact that Ichibei could be stronger Also Ichigo isn’t counted as a soul reaper, hence kenpachi being called the “strongest shinigami” in material now while Yammy is dead, even though Ichigo is stronger Not arguing for or against Yammy being above Ichibei but your arguments are the best tbf. Ywach was fine fighting Ichibei because he knew he was getting the Almighty back during that fight We also have statements of Aizen being above Yammy too
@chungusfungus9779
@chungusfungus9779 Жыл бұрын
@@ShaudL ichibei does have a Zanpaktou and statements about Yama are still in the Tybw
@ShaudL
@ShaudL Жыл бұрын
@@chungusfungus9779 Ichibei existed and was powered before the era of Zanpaktou, as he’s millions of years old. Calling him a shinigami or even categorizing him in there is redundant as he’s older than the separation of races in the universe
@chungusfungus9779
@chungusfungus9779 Жыл бұрын
@@ShaudL no he refers to himself as a shinigami , he’s stated to be a current Captain . And data books call him a shinigami , you simply choosing not to recognise him as one is your own head cannon . You’re arguing against statements put in the story by official sources because you disagree 🤣🤡 Yama slapping ichibei all day
@admusic247
@admusic247 Жыл бұрын
Yammamoto and ichibei debate is fun because it's like they're both so powerful that it's hard to distinguish a real difference. They're both so far above everyone else (except ichigo/aizen) that the strength difference between the two would have to be equivalent to like the entire gotei 13 to even register a difference. It's whoever hits who first. Yammamoto definitely is way stronger than people realize.
@yavuzy7798
@yavuzy7798 Жыл бұрын
Both Yama and Ichibei erases Aizen or Ichigo with ease. Not even needing bankai in both cases.
@admusic247
@admusic247 Жыл бұрын
@@yavuzy7798 not at all. Ywach literally said it would take him too long to kill aizen and it would be too much to reseal him. And ywach was literally terrified of ichigos zanpacto. Not to say yammamoto and ichibei wouldn't win. The point is aizen, Ichigo, yammamoto, ichibei, and ywach are all so far beyond everyone else.
@yavuzy7798
@yavuzy7798 Жыл бұрын
@@admusic247 There is no way Ichigo or Aizen is standing a chance vs. ZnT He will be melted, just by the old man standing in front of him. ZnT can obliterate the entire Soul Society, let alone 2 characters. And also his sun armor will make him immune to any of Ichigo's or Aizen's attacks. Not to mention ZnT South and North. Also, Ichibei Hax is making fun of Ichigo and Aizen. They have virtually no chance unless they can alter reality like Yhwach and say "no I'm not a black Ant!" No virtual chance.
@admusic247
@admusic247 Жыл бұрын
@@yavuzy7798 bro what are you talking about. Sure znt will melt lesser people, but fake ywach was able to exist in it's presence. You think Ichigo and Aizen are weaker than fake ywach?
@admusic247
@admusic247 Жыл бұрын
@@yavuzy7798 not to mention you gotta recall Ichigo bankai eos can disintegrate people just like yammamoto bankai.
@MrCraftyScales
@MrCraftyScales Жыл бұрын
Great vid, also I have a question
@dnlmoretti
@dnlmoretti Жыл бұрын
Totally worth the wait
@ennabennab8061
@ennabennab8061 6 ай бұрын
What is his final bankai ability, zanka no tachi north? Is it just a horizontal slash or is there more to it?
@bobby31723
@bobby31723 Жыл бұрын
The Yhwach that fought Ichibe is massively stronger than the one that one shotted Yama because of all the power he get from the dead when he goes to sleep during the second invasion. Ichibe still dogshit Yama without even using his zanpakuto.
@nosauceorbrothchild8772
@nosauceorbrothchild8772 Жыл бұрын
I personally scale Base Juha and Yamamoto and Ichibei around the same tier.
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Жыл бұрын
Ichibei Yhwach then everyone else not counting war potentials
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow Жыл бұрын
@Maday Aquino Yhwach has to be = to or above Bankai Yama to steal his Bankai
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Жыл бұрын
@Maday Aquino The dude killed the guy with something he made out of thin air, sorry bro, but he scales higher than Yamammoto.
@assignmentworker2210
@assignmentworker2210 Жыл бұрын
Could you do Re Zero scaling video scaling how strong is Reinhard Van Astrea, wwould besuper dope if you did.
@lureyourpery5569
@lureyourpery5569 Жыл бұрын
Hope next up for ichigo fullbring bankai
@fortress7493
@fortress7493 Жыл бұрын
Also no, I disagree the statement of Yamamoto is more of a beast now. It was stated Yamamoto now is using more of his bankai, because he never needed to do so when his base strength IS MUCH stronger than his old self. So why use ur true power back then when you're stomping anyone else?
@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817
@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817 Жыл бұрын
That's assuming Yhwach didn't get stronger. And Yamamoto was literally just torturing Yhwach by giving him ptsd of the past because his men killed Sasakibe. It's obvious that Yama wanted Yhwach to suffer because if he didn't he would have killed him right away.
@pacmiller7564
@pacmiller7564 Жыл бұрын
Huh? Yamamoto stated himself that his bankai was different he didn't use his full power in their first fight and we know that Bankai's are like wine the longer you have it the better it becomes.
@fortress7493
@fortress7493 Жыл бұрын
@@pacmiller7564 He said he didn't use the true power of his bankai WHICH shows he held back AND not only that proves that prime yamamoto was his younger days. BASED on the fact that he defeated yhwach with the almighty BACK then. Also Bankais only get stronger when you train them. But Yamamoto made it clear that and confidently no one has been stronger than him for past 1000 years. Which emphasizes he didn't need to train. This also backed up by his explanation to Fake Yhwach that he didn't SHOW his true power. It's not the same as him saying it wasn't as strong as it is right now
@Pablo-vm5eh
@Pablo-vm5eh Жыл бұрын
Not saying you're wrong but yamamoto basically lost cause he was toying with yhwach he could have easily ended him with west and realized yhwach was meeting aizne but he was blinded by revenge
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow Жыл бұрын
@@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817 Yhwach did get stronger since a random Sternritter like Royd who’s not even top 7 in the Quincy army is equal to or stronger than Yhwach of the past. Yama would’ve noted a difference in power but instead he immediately went Bankai while showing his real power
@Pengu386
@Pengu386 6 ай бұрын
w video
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Жыл бұрын
ICHIBEI is stronger, there's no debate, Yamammoto needed his bankai to take out a fake sternritter version of Yhwach, ICHIBEI was stomping Yhwach into the ground, and forced him to use thay Almighty bs; theres no debate
@javo10ful
@javo10ful Жыл бұрын
That fake ywach took out kepanchi who at that point was at vasto lorde ichigo level. How would Ichibe combat yammy’s bankai? The ink would burn away as the flames burn as hot as the suns core. Yammy wins mid difficulty.
@thewarrior8497
@thewarrior8497 Жыл бұрын
@@javo10ful we dont know how the ink would interact with Yama’s bankai so who knows. Its more of a concept rather then regular ink as its literally all blackness so it may go either way
@Crunchysopa52
@Crunchysopa52 Жыл бұрын
@@javo10ful Ichibe's power is conceptual it's not like ink we have on earth lol
@asura3229
@asura3229 Жыл бұрын
Be honest he didn’t really need it, Plus he had almighty in the past and he still lost even with Yamamoto weaker banki.
@riverboy239
@riverboy239 Жыл бұрын
He probly didn't need his bankia to kill the fake it's just he wasn't playing it was on site all out in finishing this right now they just jabated him
@dridimayar3746
@dridimayar3746 Жыл бұрын
hey bleach hub can you do Anos vs gilgamesh
@victordurand3000
@victordurand3000 Жыл бұрын
Hello I have a question about ichigo and aizen, I didn't read the last arc but idc about spoilers I know aizen is sealed right, so he's weaker than his previous shinigami "form" ? What about his butterfly, this form is stronger than eos aizen ? How strong is this form compared to eos characters like the strongest steinretter or bankai shunsui for example For ichigo, how strong is the mugetsu form compared to eos others characters ?
@matthewjutzen424
@matthewjutzen424 Жыл бұрын
Aizen being sealed just restricts the radius of his reishi output. He's technically stronger than when he fought Ichigo cos he merged with his zanpakuto like Ichigo did before beating Aizen. He scales to the EOS Ichigo but is slightly weaker imo and EOS Ichigo is tougher than everyone aside from Yhwach. Mugetsu is still tougher than most eos characters but, might lose to the top 4 Sternritter.
@rushpatriot2866
@rushpatriot2866 Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly chair sama aizen grew stronger. He's fully fused with his sword too so just looking at him puts you under his hypnosis. Crazy part is he ends up fighting ywach with seals still attached to him
@victordurand3000
@victordurand3000 Жыл бұрын
@@rushpatriot2866 so the aizen that fight ywatch is stronger than 4th fusion aizen right ?
@PatrickWilliams-ip5wz
@PatrickWilliams-ip5wz Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand any of you in the comments everything you guys kept saying bleachhub missed was stated word for word in his OLDER VIDEOs including his old vids with Yamamoto in it stop complaining and watch his content for real
@edisonkelly2729
@edisonkelly2729 Жыл бұрын
Are you gonna do more Kamen rider vs vid
@dlee7079
@dlee7079 Жыл бұрын
Do seiya vs Goku
@alsimmonshellspawn6021
@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Жыл бұрын
Seiya wins with resurrection hax plus limitless and power
@maarufkhan3129
@maarufkhan3129 Жыл бұрын
make a yhwach vs funny valentine video please
@chungusfungus9779
@chungusfungus9779 Жыл бұрын
Yama > ichibei
@fahimmaf2469
@fahimmaf2469 Жыл бұрын
I think Quincy lost in the 1st war because they dont have the Medal that can steal Bankai.
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Жыл бұрын
The current Ywach is much different than the one from the past, "containg" a bankai and being more powerful than it dont have to mean that other quincies couldn't scale above it. Imagine trying to restain a person just as strong as you? you probably wouldn't be a le to restrain that person, i think you need to be alot stronger than someone to control their bankai.
@raheemcamal998
@raheemcamal998 Жыл бұрын
From what was stated by ywach he have to be equal to them or close in strength to do so
@mememachine2013
@mememachine2013 Жыл бұрын
It's pretty blatant that Yama would scale above the other quincy in terms of raw power and SP. NOT saying he would beat some of them because of there hax like the miracle but considering jugram was present when Yama when bankai and yhwach stating only he could contain his bankai makes it pretty concrete that he was the only person who could steal it.
@mememachine2013
@mememachine2013 Жыл бұрын
With regarding your analogy to restraining someone physically as strong as you it doesn't make sense because yhwach isn't restraining yamas bankai he's containing it. It's most likely that if any other sternritter stole yamas bankai it would either not work to begin with or the quincy wouldn't be able to handle all the power and just die
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Жыл бұрын
@@mememachine2013 Maybe you are right, I guess no one's bankai has been contained, but that doesnt make someone not stronger than that person.
@mememachine2013
@mememachine2013 Жыл бұрын
@@gangstagummybear3432 I'd argue it does in raw power/sp but doesn't mean they can beat somebody. Gerard for example could be outclassed in power and spiritual pressure by Yama but could still win do to his hax(the miracle)
@cttommy73
@cttommy73 3 ай бұрын
Please, we already knew Yhwach couldn't one shot Yamamoto one on one. Hell, he can't even beat Yamamoto one on one without Almighty. Almighty is the ONLY reason he was strong enough to take on Yamamoto or Ichibei. And I know Kubo said "Without Ichigo, the Gotei would have been destroyed and Aizen would have won", but come on. In a straight battle one on one, Yamamoto or Ichibei would have crushed both Aizen and Yhwach, simply because we are literally shown that. Final Qunicy power burning Ichigo is strong, but he is still nowhere near the kind of powers Bankai Yamamoto has. Let alone Chojiro, who was so easily dispatched by a Shikai Ichigo, is shown to have powers great enough to scar Yamamoto in his prime. Without the plot armour bull, Yamamoto would have crushed Aizen. And as for Yhwach, we KNOW Yamamoto is stronger than the King of Quincy, because Yhwach fought Yamamoto a thousand years ago and got his ass completely whooped, to the point he and the Qunicy were destroyed and ran from the Shinigami. So yeah, Yamamoto is stronger without the ultimate hex ability. Hell, I would say, with what is shown, the other hex abilities are nothing to Yamamoto and the only true hex ability which can and did beat him is Yhwach wielding Almighty.
@seanc7990
@seanc7990 2 ай бұрын
yamamoto would beat aizen before hogyoku fusion, after the hogyoku fusion aizen would be immortal and have too much raw power to lose to yamamoto, imo it's almighty yhwach>Hogyoku Aizen>Bankai Ichigo>Bankai Ichibei>Bankai Yamamoto>Base Yhwach>Base Aizen without the hogyoku
@Casualplayerone
@Casualplayerone Жыл бұрын
First baby 100
@ConfesstoChrist
@ConfesstoChrist Жыл бұрын
Yammamoto one shots op verse, one shots anyone 1v1 Naruto and shippuden. Boruto characters might be a slight warmup. Beats anyone in dbz extreme difficulty(not Dbs)
@Dzl20.
@Dzl20. Жыл бұрын
Fax or cap?
@victordurand3000
@victordurand3000 Жыл бұрын
Opverse > narutoverse
@attatchment
@attatchment Жыл бұрын
Do you agree with the take that Kisuke can beat shunsui low difficulty?
@rushpatriot2866
@rushpatriot2866 Жыл бұрын
No 💀 nobody does mid-high diff if he even wins. Can be debated for both sides if Shunsui pops off his bankai fast enough it's over with.
@fortress7493
@fortress7493 Жыл бұрын
Ichibei is no where near Yamamoto. One Yhwach AFTER being defeated Yamamoto 1000 years ago has stated that he now just opened his eyes after 999 years of progress of retaining his power. Which points out that Yhwach with his Almighty powers STILL lost to Younger Yamamoto who stated that by himself that he didn't show the true power of his bankai
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Жыл бұрын
Then why didnt Yhwach attempt to steal ICHIBEI's bankai?
@fortress7493
@fortress7493 Жыл бұрын
@@gangstagummybear3432 because Ichibeis bankai isn't any conventional bankai. But that doesn't mean it's more powerful than Yamamotos when Yhwach stated himself that 999 years he's trying to regain his power, and with ichibei all this time he has been closing his eyes the whole time.
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Жыл бұрын
@@fortress7493 Well the statement was that the 0 squad's power was equivalent to the entirety of the 13 guard squads combined, that includes Yammamoto, you have no debate.
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Жыл бұрын
@@fortress7493 It definitely means he wasnt strong enough to steal Ichibei's bankai.
@fortress7493
@fortress7493 Жыл бұрын
@@gangstagummybear3432 not really because ichibeis bankai was stated to be not any bankai as it EXISTS in every living and everything. Which is not spiritual pressure related compared to Yamamotos. That being said Yamamoto defeated yhwach with Almighty while ichibei got one shot.
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow Жыл бұрын
Yama is strong but his scaling doesn’t change at all really, and he can potentially be too 10 but I dunno about top 5 How his scaling didn’t change? There’s still no debate that Fake Yhwach/Royd Loyd scales to Bankai Yama in terms of everything besides AP and Hax. Yama’s Bankai doesn’t seem to change his physical stats, as his surprise attack with Shikai hit Royd but his bloodlusted Bankai blitz attempts all were dodged. Physical strength wise, Royd can knock Shikai Yama around and force him to block his physical attacks, he kept up with his speed and dodged all of his attacks besides the first Shikai strike and North at the end l, and was durable enough to take Shikai Yama’s non existence erasure AP with small cuts Royd is weaker than Gremmy, who in turn is weaker than all 6 Quincy Elites (after they got their power restored to Base and not nerfed sharing their power with the other Sternritter) Base Yhwach > Gremmy > Royd ~ Bankai Yama. In terms of overall combat ability at least. Yama has more reiatsu than Royd based on Yhwach’s statement but they were blatantly on par in physicals Yhwach then absorbs Royd and Yama after he kills then both and gains their power, and then this mega amped Base Yhwach is the one that gets slapped up by Ichibei. As for Yama and the Quincy Elites, the statement that nobody could contain his Bankai was made before they got their full power back and while they were nerfed. And there’s people like Gerard and Pernida who massively amp their stats on top of their hax, Lille, Askin, Jugram and Uryu who are haxed in their own way Jugram when he fought Uryu in the Weekly Shonen version (not the volume version) was called the Strongest Enemy ever by the narration side text box, and Gerard with his God Size form and not even Vollstandig said he was the fastest and mightiest Quincy. So if anything, those 2 at the very top of the Sternritter list have a good chance to be above Yama, and the people that scale to them potentially can as well Byakuya, Toshiro and Kenpachi being the Gotei shinigami that scale to various forms of Gerard. As for Yama’s hax, East and West require you to not get hit or hit him with melee, but Yhwach showed the energy attacks work as Yama had to physically deflect his arrow rather than let the heat burn it. So it’s difficult but possible for people to deal with his hax
@dton0743
@dton0743 Жыл бұрын
Jo-Smooth I don’t know man.. Except Gerard the broken Thor-copycat, should any of the elites (add gremmy in there too) fight Bankai Yama, they’d burn just like Royd if not quicker since Royd did have the combat arsenal and experience of Yhwach. Lille is intangible but is more possibly than not susceptible to Yama’s flames, not to mention Yama’s much greater stats. Askin and pernida.. they’d die before they could adapt.. Gremmy? Same as Kenpachi but gremmy stands a little more chance here considering Yama’s flames could ignite his imagination. Me personally it goes Yhwach > Gerard > Bankai Yama > Lille > Pernida > Gremmy > Askin > Royd Lloyd. Take care yo ✌️
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow Жыл бұрын
@@dton0743 I have Gremmy as weaker than all of the elites. The Yourself had Yhwach’s knowledge and combat experience, but not his actual power. All the elites would definitely have more Reiatsu/Better stats than Royd on top of their broken hax. If Yama had to try his hardest to land a hit on and kill Royd, the other Elites are not going out like that. And even if he lands the exact same hit he did on Royd- Gerard is reviving, Pernida is adapting, Uryu and Jugram are using A and B to reverse the situation. Lille would either die or be intangible, and Askin would die. So 4/6 could survive even after getting hit, though it wouldn’t be easy for him to hit them at all
@lucasferreira2073
@lucasferreira2073 Жыл бұрын
@@jocoolshow" There’s still no debate that Fake Yhwach/Royd Loyd scales to Bankai Yama in terms of everything " Stopped right there, obviously you don't know anything about Bleach. How can a Stern be as powerful as the man who ALREADY defeated Juha Bach? People seem to forget, Yamamoto ALREADY defeated him. its a fact, its a reality.
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow Жыл бұрын
@@lucasferreira2073 Yama defeated a weaker Yhwach from 1000 years ago that wasn't even using the Almighty. Yama, who could *sense reiatsu by the way* assessed that Fake Yhwach was just as strong as or stronger than the old Yhwach. he literally says that in the past, he never used the full power of his Bankai against Yhwach and defeated him with the explosive variant of Zanka no Tachi without any cardinal direction based abilities. That was the real Yhwach he beat like that But against this fake Yhwach, he stated that he was now using the full power of his Bankai, was in a bloodlusted state, had rage amps and resolve amps on top of that, and literally couldn't hit Fake Yhwach until he psycologically attacked him which affects your resolve and then combo'd that with a durability negating one hit kill AOE ranged attack to beat him And then Yama's durability relatively speaking was low enough to get one shotted by the real Base Yhwach's casual swing. Yama's Bankai doesn't affect his physical stats, so his body's durability wouldn't be any different. And even with west, when Fake Yhwach shot an arrow at Yama, Yama had to deflect it instead of tank it. Yhwach's sword was a reishi arrow, so it would've bypassed west and cut through Yama even if the Bankai was active. Keep in mind the real Yhwach has to scale to or above Bankai Yama to steal the Bankai in the first place.
@lucasferreira2073
@lucasferreira2073 Жыл бұрын
@@jocoolshow It is NEVER stated that Juha Bach was weaker in the past, OR that he didnt had the Almighty. You pulling facts out of your ass. If anything he was far stronger than the version of himself that fought old Yama at that point . Yama was just blinded by hate, which was his only weakness. I never understood this hate some lesser men have towards Yama, its like little guys hate him just because he's the strongest and has his warrior pride. Don't apply your insecurities on him buddy.
@SMGTTY
@SMGTTY Жыл бұрын
Idiots will say “Ichibei’s ink will nuke” 17 million degree flames because the ink isn’t ink it’s…Something else… 😂😂😂 Ichibei got nuked by someone with the power of an “Ant.” His fans need to stfu and take the L.
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Жыл бұрын
His almighty power returned all his power to him, atleast Ichibei landed any kind of a hit on the actual Yhwach, Yamammoto's fake Yhwach was still able to talk after he hit him with his final enraged attack in Bankai; that is trash.
@edmund1737
@edmund1737 Жыл бұрын
What? Bro juha regained all his powers back. Don’t be a dimwit. Without the almighty he stood no chance.
@SMGTTY
@SMGTTY Жыл бұрын
@@edmund1737 and without stealing Yama’s bankai, NO ONE, even yhwach WITH the Almighty had no chance(1000 yrs before)
@SMGTTY
@SMGTTY Жыл бұрын
@@gangstagummybear3432 remember, the real Yhwach still had to steal Yama’s bankai when he appeared. The fake Yhwach basically demonstrated the attacks yhwach would have used in that situation which basically meant that the real yhwach would have struggled. Maybe not as much as the fake but I dont see the real Yhwach using these same moves against yama & countering him.
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Жыл бұрын
@@SMGTTY "Same moves" as in that big azz arrow that he shot a big azz reishi sword into the ground with? at that point, if Yamammoto is special as Yhwach is, he could form something so spectacular out of thin air too, Yhwach didnt even use his actual sword against Yamammoto, nor did he use his bankai that he just took away. I dont get it, no one gives the other sternritter any flak for their stealing of bankais, nor calls that cheap, but then all of a sudden, it is, "cheap" when it comes to Yamammoto; that is why I know the guy has the most intense of fanboys.
@multitopictalk6714
@multitopictalk6714 Жыл бұрын
SPOILER: Nothing told us or showed us yamamoto genryusai can comeback to life after getting cut in pieces. Due to sheer hacks, i think Ichibei is stronger. Ichibei may not have as much firepower as yamamoto but his ink and his ability to comeback to life make him maybe a bit better then yamamoto. If i remember the manga properly, ywach was also stronger as the war went on because he did took away the lives of his soldiers to buff himself. Considering Ichibei almost won against one of the strongest ywach in history, i think this seal the deal. I dont see yamamoto doing as good as ichibei vs the same ywach, even if you give the extra arm yamamoto lost to aizen. Due to his power set, i think Ichibei is the strongest being to exist outside of like soul king, ichigo true bankai and maybe almighty ywach.
@rushpatriot2866
@rushpatriot2866 Жыл бұрын
The first part of your comment is kinda irrelevant. Ichibei requires someone to say his name to come back and if you're having a versus battle nobody else is gonna be around. So throw that out the window
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Жыл бұрын
Yamamoto fanboys are the top tier of fanboys in shonen, beyond the Gold Roger fanboys even
@pacmiller7564
@pacmiller7564 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by that
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Жыл бұрын
@@pacmiller7564 look at the comment section
@pacmiller7564
@pacmiller7564 Жыл бұрын
@@gangstagummybear3432 I'm confused, the first comment is literally someone saying how Yamamoto will never beat Ichibei and other people said the same thing.
@yavuzy7798
@yavuzy7798 Жыл бұрын
Almighty Yhwach > Yamamato Bankai > Ichibei > Aizen > Ichigo > Lille > Gerard > Shunsui > Kenpachi > Urahara > Mayuri > Other elite sternritters > Other strong captains
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Жыл бұрын
@@yavuzy7798 Nice list, but the order is hot garbage
@Wiseking-Thefirst
@Wiseking-Thefirst Жыл бұрын
The things wrong about this 1.) The elite guard that “beat” the zero squad would beat yama. 2.) yhwach no dif ichibei and yama can’t touch ichibie since it’s been already confirmed that ichibie is stronger then yama.
@Yourfavinsti
@Yourfavinsti Жыл бұрын
Nah gang
@Wiseking-Thefirst
@Wiseking-Thefirst Жыл бұрын
@@Yourfavinsti wym nah what’s ya argument? Cause if you think Ichibie would loose to yama. Just know yama got beat by a yhwach withou his almighty activated. When yhwach was fighting ichibie he needed the almigh active to beat ichibie.
@kylemma33
@kylemma33 Жыл бұрын
@@Wiseking-Thefirst And yamamoto beat yhwach who had the almighty 1000 years ago.
@Wiseking-Thefirst
@Wiseking-Thefirst Жыл бұрын
@@kylemma33 yhwach didn’t have the almighty when he fought yama 1000 years ago. And this is how you can tell 1.) it was never stated. 2.) in the flash back yhwach didn’t have almighty active. 3.) the ritual wasn’t complete cause yhwach did “die” 4.) yhwach would’ve destroyed yama cause with the almighty he has the ability to beat ichibie who’s the strongest soul reaper. 5.) yhwach with almighty has power null, reality manipulation, fate manipulation, fear inducement, balance, X..ect which would beat yamas bankai since it’s a power null with the same abilities the Hogyoku gave aizen.. the same aizen that beat was stated to be stronger then Yamamoto. 6.) also Yama’s bankai got stronger cause of the fact he himself stated so. So y’all yama fans can’t use the “yama got weaker” cause yama himself said he gotten stronger with age. Sooooo base yhwach is stronger then yama cause base yhwach is = to 4th form aizen, and AM yhwach is => tybw aizen and ichibie who are both stronger then yama.
@cptghostnova75
@cptghostnova75 Жыл бұрын
@@Wiseking-Thefirst and how is Ichibie supposed to get through Yamamoto's bankai west where anything that touches him gets erased and if he gets touched by his sword he also get erased? I can understand if Ichibie has more physical stats and some hacks. but Yamamoto's bankai west is something I don't see Ichibie getting through.
@Dzl20.
@Dzl20. Жыл бұрын
First
@Casualplayerone
@Casualplayerone Жыл бұрын
Beat me by two second lol
@master-oh6zn
@master-oh6zn Жыл бұрын
Bruh these Bleach scalers. I can't believe they can say Yamamoto is 4d when Aizen Hougyoku is suprised his power is destroying mountains. Yamamoto was going vaporize all the water in the Soul Society city, not all Soul Society. Unohana said destroy because everyone were gonna die. Yamamoto is country level, Yhwach is country level+hax and he can defeat anyone.
@AnitaSingh-sq7ov
@AnitaSingh-sq7ov Жыл бұрын
tf you on about
@alsimmonshellspawn6021
@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Жыл бұрын
🤡 you must be a naruto fan
@The_Omnipotent_Lurk
@The_Omnipotent_Lurk Жыл бұрын
Literally city’s flying mid air, Ichigo destroying hell an literally multiverse in his vasto lorde form and people still think ichigo isn’t 4D, btw he is 5D after the tybw arc ended. 🤡
@jouskehigaskita8835
@jouskehigaskita8835 11 ай бұрын
You got bleach characters cutting through space and shaking the universe simply by going bankai
@sooskes1525
@sooskes1525 3 ай бұрын
what have u been smoking
@IWriteTooMuchForBleachIGuess
@IWriteTooMuchForBleachIGuess Жыл бұрын
*You just wanted an excuse to use the new anime footage in your video, didn't you Bossu?* Not too long ago in anticipation of the anime I was actually rewatching your old Yamamoto videos to figure out exactly where to scale him. *I severely low balled him.* I'm glad that you and others are seeing that this anime is ultimately going to be the most canon version of Bleach which really is some truly crazy stuff. Not to mention your fears of the anime finally being quelled. There was never a need to worry. Also the fact a lot forget that his "fire" is actually just his Reiatsu.
@Auron1Roxas2
@Auron1Roxas2 6 ай бұрын
Yhwach didn't have access to his almighty ability which is the reason why he lost and we know he didn't have access to it because of Ichibe sealing it. Ichibe is far stronger than yamamoto, that's a fact. Yhwach was getting cooked by ichibe until his almighty activated. If he had that ability when he fought yama back in the day, he'd have won.
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 5 ай бұрын
Exactly yamammoto is below all the 0 division, that is fact
@cttommy73
@cttommy73 3 ай бұрын
By that same logic, when Ichibei went up against Almighty, he got one shotted. Your point? Fact is, Almighty is just that much of a hex ability and is just ridiculous plot armour. End of.
@cttommy73
@cttommy73 3 ай бұрын
@@gangstagummybear3432 What is fact is Zero division, only Ichibei is the only one who can match Yamamoto. Ain't no 0 division member besides that stronger than him. End of story.
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