Barako, the Sun Chief Vs. Umvuthi, the Sunbird Comparison

Just a random vid I posted.
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[@whitesbattles]

Comment Who has better animations.

[@mryeet333-fd7cw]

Umvuthi has better animations

[@blamgit]

Sun bird

[@shlokesaha3363]

Barako the sun chief

[@randomperson294]

is that even a question? these are literally the same mobs but Umvuthi has different models. but same animations.l

[@draw2death421]

Is there any doubt? Barako easily! So much more personality than the turkey.

[@cardinvuong9742]

Barako definitely feels like the chief and follows some sort of sun god, whilst Umvuthi is more like the god they were worshipping

[@Automaton_Follower]

Мне так больше нравиться

[@splasq3511]

​@@Automaton_Followerтакже

[@Dualbladedscorpion7737]

Barako is like: "huh where is everybody?"

[@VERGILGASM]

"Who tf are all these birds?"

[@angelsworld6682]

I want barako back because i want them to compete each other for dominance on the sun.

[@Andrius3056]

It won't happen to avoid everything related to racism

[@elmati9315]

unfortunatly it won't happen at least for a while

[@KeivSquirrel]

Well blame twitter

[@Youkall3]

@@KeivSquirrel if twitter is gunna do that why are they fine with the tiki masks in crash bandicoot or the tribal people you kill throughout the game, hypocrisy man

[@poppyseed799]

@@Youkall3 I mean they probably aren’t fine with that. They just can’t do anything about it

[@darkreflection9087]

Both look great Barako is a bit nostalgic because I’ve seen him longer but Umvuthi design is incredible

[@ethansanders5706]

I prefer Barako and the Barakas. They seemed to have bit more personality and I prefer the more brutish chief vibe that he has. Although, the bird definitely has smoother animations

[@NN-jp7ei]

say thank you to the twitter monkeys

[@rane7784]

@@NN-jp7ei at this point, blame Bob Mowzie and not those Twitter SPEDs. Like why tf would you change the mobs over some dang 14 year old nutcases that loves virtue signaling??? It's not like they're the majority that uses his mods or sum...

[@foureyesisafish7968]

Because its way better to not use stereotypes from both an originality and respect perspective?

[@souronthedeceiver2583]

Why not have both since there are rival tribes already?

[@segismundosaulalex3065]

@@souronthedeceiver2583 would be pretty fun to have the tribes give you rewards for bringing them items droped by their enemies as tribute.

[@paulivanov7488]

Umvuthi‘s animations were better, but both were really good

[@randomgamer671]

You prefer the rip off one than the original?

[@nine-tailedfox1243]

@@randomgamer671it’s not a ripoff the original creator of the mod remade it with a new design.

[@EmirGarcia-ui2gb]

​@@randomgamer671"rip off" really?

[@eggmin8967]

​@@randomgamer671these are rivals they are from the same mod

[@Rev..u]

@@randomgamer671it’s not a rip off unless it’s worse than the original

[@KenanLaudat-tp3bp]

4:01 the way he turned around, "if you weren't in creative mode...."

[@Automaton_Follower]

хахах правда немного жутко 😂

[@EnderJack16]

Sun bird are cool, but its doesn't feel the same

[@maskofmany9208]

The Barako was definitely more memorable, being a fat yet powerful tribal leader with a face made of gold, you can’t forget a design like that. Umvuthi looks cool though, and the design more directly shows their connection to the sun, so I’m not complaining. Barako will always be remembered.

[@yes.elevens3688]

The belly smacking for Umvuthi seems a redundant, it makes sense for Barack since his thing is that he is fat and dosent get up but idk why the bird is obese

[@warriorwatch2406]

Well, Umvuthi shares that concept. Both are stationary, obese heliomancers.

[@Quilvin-xu5ht]

​@@warriorwatch2406 yeah but it makes more sense to have him sitting on an egg or something He's not Mighty Eagle

[@warriorwatch2406]

@@Quilvin-xu5ht An egg wouldn't make sense, Umvuthi is a male and the Abavuthana don't reproduce biologically (they are living masks after all). I don't see why Umvuthi being a bird matters, he has no less reason for being fat than Barako.

[@foreignwun8585]

Turkey that’s been fattened up

[@kidonyoutube]

​@@warriorwatch2406bro the animation just doesnt fit, stop playing the blind

[@demon_xd_]

It’s a shame Barako and his tribe got replaced due to racism allegations… I hope the mod’s team lets him return some day, maybe in a new form, seeking to take revenge on the usurpers… Imagine: Barako, the dethroned king of silver; wearing a mask of the same metal alongside his tribe’s remnants in honor of their new moon god, who adopted them when the sun god turned their back on them. This new tribe is locked in perpetual war with the sunbirds, and will attack them on full moon nights. The player could be able to side with either, shifting the balance of day and night, and gaining buffs at different times, or resizing these 2 halves so that days or nights become longer, until one of the bosses is felled, and the world enters eternal light or darkness

[@Buster_semi_canonico]

espere, van a eliminar a Barako?

[@demon_xd_]

@@Buster_semi_canonico apremente sí? Y mira que intenaton que no se pareciera demasiado a ninguna cultura real, pero siempre hay lloricas

[@eugeniojaenquiros2798]

La idea esta buenisima

[@mooncandlelight3968]

Oh my god what racism

[@demon_xd_]

@@mooncandlelight3968 apparently he looks too much llike actual cultures

[@grendel8342]

Gonna be honest, kinda pissed off we are losing the barakoa for generic bird monsters. I loved the little tiki cave men.

[@lisakfox]

I prefer Barakoa just because I think that he is more like good old classic and he just fits the mod a lot. And I think it's really stupid how the mod was reported for racism just because of the masks. Even though I think that devs made a great job with a new design especially with animations

[@shitsu3179]

@@Roland... Bro if you look at an anthropomorphic character that's green, small, lives in tribes and uses the power of the sun and somehow your first thought is "Ah yes, real life native tribes" you're more concerning than the character itself. Its literally the same situation as with people saying the concept of evil orcs is racist by doing insane mental gymnastics in order to try and compare them to black people or other minorities.

[@akira1086]

This is a dumb take, for one i think the creator felt bad about some people making racist remarks about it (something about a streamer i think making insensitive comments which got the mod creator thinking), for two, i think they had already been thinking about the change, for three, dude.... even i when i was younger and saw this mod knew it was a racist caricature... I didn't think too much about it cause i was a kid and because i do think the creator didn't mean badly by it, but there's no denying it's a bit of a racist caricature. Personally though i do think the sun bird idea is cooler, my only complaint is i wish they had some kind of voice lines like the barakoa, even if they wouldn't be the same voice.

[@reekerman1012]

@@akira1086 as a Jamaican f**k no bring back big sun guy

[@davidbuesaquillo]

@@akira1086 si hubo influencia de Twitter y demás en la decisión de modificar ese mob Alegaciones tontas a tomar en cuenta sinceramente Lo que dices si es un "dumb take"

[@monkcheese6218]

@@akira1086dude so what? Your not allowed to show any cultures in games that so stupid how sensitive can you be

[@user-cd5jg3tw2h]

Umvuti just seem more terrifying and less friendly and also less expressive, Barakoa can be bro with me

[@elialelugia]

Rip Barako 2016-2023

[@reyvincentdeloso8357]

I will miss them so much! 😢😭 I’m crying for real right now 😭😭😭

[@ryan345llanto4]

All because they think it is racist to barako that represents a tribe but they are not humans I've seen smarter people who are born as toddler

[@Ezecool-3105]

​@@ryan345llanto4They are literally just living masks

[@ryan345llanto4]

@@Ezecool-3105 yeah I kinda agree with you but if it is just a mask they would need a physical body for it in order to do what they are meant to do but yeah they are just literal mask if you kill them I was just confuse on how in the world would they call this racist?

[@pat2rick26]

​@@Ezecool-3105 exactly

[@Solesteam]

Sunbird is cool, but Barako was absolutely comical, fits the goofier side of Minecraft way better than the bird, which would fit in betyer with the more serious aspects...

[@juanelgamer4569]

yet people saw the comical, goofy, and minecrafty design as something racist

[@RetroMagnus761]

There aren't really any "serious" aspects of Minecraft to begin with besides from bits of implied lore. The umvuthi and Abavuthana feel more like terraria creatures if anything which would go along with their design much better.

[@Solesteam]

@@RetroMagnus761 Minecraft can be kinda serious... For starters, the art-style is kinda gritty and gloomy... The monsters somewhat erie... Then there's the passive mobs looking left and right at the same time taking the edge off and making the game silly.

[@MaximilianoOrtiz-is3qd]

I demand to bring the barakoas and barakoas back, and not delete the umvhuti

[@Shadow-jk6ip]

The thing is, Twitter is being a crybaby and said barako looks racist as it represents an african tribe WHICH IS WHAT BARAKO IS MENT TO BE.

[@elmati9315]

yeah sort of like natural enemies

[@sivuy_bandit932]

More tribes

[@tor-keeby4401]

that’d be a good idea, bring back Barako as the Sun Chief, and keep Umvuthi but instead of being the Sunbird, he is the Moonbird, so that they are polar opposites and will have a cool interaction between their tribes like wars

[@eggmin8967]

​@@tor-keeby4401and give Twitter something to actually be upset over (race war)

[@warriorwatch2406]

I think overall, Umvuthi and his Abavuthana (still getting a hang of using the pluralization, so I could be misspelling that) are better in terms of design, concept, animations, etc... I think the one thing Barako and the Barakoa have over their avian replacements is personality.

[@dinovaldo9341]

I can sorta see that, but I love the mystic presence of Umvuthi. Ironically, I think I like it more because it HAS such an alien personality.

[@warriorwatch2406]

@@dinovaldo9341 For me, the reason the Barakoa beat out the Abavuthana is more due to their avian counterparts lacking personality. If it makes any sense, they don't feel... Intelligent, at least not in the same way the Barakoa did. They feel more like spirits than a species, which I have no doubt is intentional and gives them a very distinct feeling, but in doing so a lot of the personality was lost. They don't use tools (conventional or otherwise) like the Barakoa did. They also don't talk like the Barakoa did (while the Abavuthana do make noises I don't think they have a language, but I could be wrong). Granted, they do still trade and assumedly built the stuff in their grove. But even then, their trades are almost all for either food or gold nuggets and their grove's architecture makes the Barakoa's village look advanced by comparison. To simply what I'm trying to say, the Barakoa felt like a society deeply devoted to their creator, while the Abavuthana are still deeply devote to their creator but don't feel like a society. I do still really enjoy the unnatural and alien feeling of the Abavuthana though, and of course if I'm not making any sense do tell me.

[@dinovaldo9341]

@@warriorwatch2406 I see exactly why you prefer Barakoa, and rightfully so! Personality is relatable and we innately have a connection to things with personality. Neither is better or worse, but I really love the spiritual vibe of the birds (mostly because it reminds me of the spirits from ATLA, which I love). What I'm saying is that I like Barakoa too, and for much the same reasons as you, but I just prefer the vibe of the birds.

[@warriorwatch2406]

@@dinovaldo9341 I prefer the birds too overall, just in the personality department I think Barako and his Barakoa beat out Umvuthi and his Abavuthana. Though I am left to wonder how the dynamic with the Biloko is going to work now, since the Abavuthana don't really feel like a tribe (at least to me).

[@dinovaldo9341]

@@warriorwatch2406 Yeah, I don't know what their plan is. Maybe just scrapping Biloko entirely? We'll just have to wait and see I suppose.

[@alotan5206]

The only thing that I dont like about the Umvuthi and Abavuthana is the lack of goofy sounds (but everything else its better than the barako and barakoa).

[@ichimiustin8390]

Honestly, damn twitter for this!

[@Lord_Lotanna]

I'll miss barako

[@vladimirporozov165]

Yes 😢. He is a true legend 💪 I also miss him.

[@P-o-r-o]

Me tocó

[@MrDoom-rt4hg]

What happened

[@elmati9315]

@@MrDoom-rt4hg see in QSMP some racist dudes thought that the Barako and the Barakoana was racist because they thought it resembeled an actual human tribe and they canceled Mowzie (creator of the mod) just because they see an antropomorphic tribe like behaivour and automatically resemeled it to a human being. So Mowzie had to change the whole barakoa mobs so a couple of racist dudes can be happy

[@MrDoom-rt4hg]

@@elmati9315 wild

[@olivetee1108]

Barako is just way better in terms of sound design, you could actually hear how strong he is, especially with the shockwave.

[@nobodyimportant4778]

I find it funny that it's the generic masks people took issues with and not the potbellied pygmies that look like they walked out of an old disney animation like the black slave centaur girl. Lmao. Now if mowzie could just make the piranha plant things not spawn by the million.

[@shitsu3179]

Dang, didn't know you had a copypasta for it lol@@Roland...

[@basic6735]

@@Roland... I’m African and we could not give less of a shit, they don’t resemble us or any of our culture in any shape or form. And even then it’s nice seeing people take inspiration from the many different tribes on our continent and creating new designs.

[@monsterousreal]

​@@Roland...im african and i actually would prefer barako over umvuthi

[@Nika-ue9vn]

​​@@Roland... imo you could only see any racist caricature in them if you already have racist thoughts, they are literally mythical creatures, and to me you are a hypocrite until you tell me that Elves and Ogres are racist caricatures too

[@erikho6936]

​@@Roland... Lil bro i just saw your exact comment word for word in another comment section here you lrgit just copiec and pasted it

[@scaryfella3481]

Barako was good but i definitely understand why the creator felt the need to remove him. Fortunately, they make it up with a great replacement!

[@ryansantoso8397]

I heard somewhere that it got changed because its apparently racist

[@mthaylanprogames3689]

So whats is the "good" reason? Im out of this mod, and now i discover that he remover my favorite boss? First color, now that?

[@ryansantoso8397]

@@mthaylanprogames3689 its apparently because twitter said its similar to a African tribe and its racist

[@mthaylanprogames3689]

@@ryansantoso8397 well... In my country they says: "If they are arguing in Twitter(fk X) them its good!" I hate Twitter .

[@_3304]

He based Barakoa off african tribes, and somehow it's racist. Despite the fact that tribal africans exist AND Barakoa aren't even real people 💀

[@pixelertut7919]

Barako is better, he's doing that funny screams and sound, and these barakoas screaming "KOTEH!!" every 5 sec, and so just a fat secretary bird, it fat but it dont have that fatman tribe leader vibe

[@Andrius3056]

The reason why Barakoa and Barako were replaced: The reason is twitter said it was too similar to african tribe mask and said that it's racist, even the creator told to someone the reason why that I saw on discord (still miss them) [EDIT] the creator Bob Mowzie posted on KZbin community explaining the reason today

[@EnderJack16]

But, thats the reason why they are cool

[@tickletenders]

Everything is racist in the eyes of modern day Twitter.

[@retro_guyy1015]

wasent that the whole point of there design?

[@Shadow-jk6ip]

Twitter being the sensitive cry babies they are

[@benroberts8363]

Nah bro the mod creator is woke

[@Huzeeee]

Barako:hadudyhukuma Umvuthi:*start to beatbox*

[@elPANTRUCA.]

Los verdaderos racistas son los que se quejaron del Barako y sus minions, al inmediatamente compararlo con alguna tribu, cuando claramente se ve que son un tipo de duendes cazadores, en fin nunca entere a esa gente que se queja por todo.

[@TheHalofan3]

Both are good, but I like Barako’s vibe more.

[@magentalizard1250]

If twitter users call you racist, just remember that they're twitter users.

[@crazysilberking9541]

We need more human characters in Minecraft!!!!! Did these birds "replace" Barako and his people?!

[@SyafiqMuhaimin-tr4db]

I prefer barako for some reason probably because it was iconic

[@elmati9315]

Umvuthi and its Abavuthana of course have better animations and overall design as mowzies team spend a lot of time creating them and they improve as the time goes on, so yeah Umvuthana herd is pretty cool. I hate the reasons though, Barako and overall Barakoa had way more personality and well the whole concept of the mob and its behaivour and mechanics were thought to be tribal. But as some racist dudes thought the Barakoa resembeled a human being so Mowzie had to change it so that some racist dudes are ok. I hope Barakoa can come back in a future maybe as natural enemies of the Umvuthu

[@testier9040]

​@@Roland... Wither skeleton is black?????!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!? In nether????????? Does this mean all black go to nether ??!?!?!?!?🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥™️™️™️™️💀💀💀🖤🖤🖤🧑‍🧑‍🧒🧑‍🧑‍🧒‍🧒🧑‍🧒🧑‍🧒‍🧒

[@Roland...]

@@testier9040 Also wither skeleton drops coal that means they are White skeleton slaves that mined coal and they're black because of coal and black color resembles their slave status

[@sentane8031]

@@testier9040 plus the wither skeletons are taller. This could imply, if we are to assume that wither skeletons are deceased POC's, that they'd have an easier time playing certain sports, and that their gait would be longer.

[@basic6735]

@@testier9040 Enderman are tall, black, steal things, and can’t swim. Use this information however you wish

[@erikho6936]

​@@Roland... maybe dont see them with racist intent? Idk man maybe your the racist here

[@RoundusMongus]

I think that they should keep both of them. Have a competing sun worship religion thing going on.

[@ashuraomega1000]

Just make the umvuthi and Abavuthana a moon based tribe instead. Umvuthi's design would fit better with that theme anyway

[@tiredboy7262]

I love umvuthi's little head movements

[@Quilvin-xu5ht]

I like the Barakoas tbh, their chattering were really funny and kinda cute

[@gatunhame]

The Sunbirds are cool, but I think it's impossible to compete with Barako's design. Umvuthi's face feels too much like a weird fursuit

[@goldalien2016]

I honestly liked the barakoa as they felt like a unique take on goblins, but I know Bob had reason to change them. Let us look forward to the future of this mod! I can't wait for the sculptor

[@adonut3955]

i didnt know about barako getting remove until i read the comments, and whats worse is that its bc of a stupid reason. and honestly, Umvuthi and his birdies have cool animations and design, but i feel like Barako and the barakoas have more personality, that and they where with us for like, 9 years i think? I just cant really enjoy Umvuthi and his birdies knowing the reason of why they where created in the first place :"l

[@VeenanNorvius]

Wasnt a stupid reason tho.

[@luanpuridade8091]

@@VeenanNorvius it was

[@dinovaldo9341]

@@VeenanNorvius it was

[@Nika-ue9vn]

​​@@VeenanNorvius mowzie probably doesn't think they are racist, he just doesn't want people to cancel his mod

[@VeenanNorvius]

@@Nika-ue9vn if he didn't, he wouldn't of changed it, but he has multiple friends of his explain it to him

[@jahanpalomado8537]

Barako will always be the original fat god

[@KaizzuIsHere]

Discord mod battle

[@neurotocksin3403]

kinda irritating how such a cool concept like the barakoa gets shut down because its "racist" when there weren't any racist intentions behind it

[@RetroMagnus761]

the barakoa weren't even based on the natives. Mowzie based them off of mythological creatures and various other monsters in other video games that only took slight inspiration from African American tribes. That's not even mentioning how the barakoa don't even slightly match with the stereotypical depictions of native tribes at all. Saying the barako looks like the natives is like saying that the umvuthi resembles the Aztecs when in reality there's no correlation at all. Besides barako taking inspiration from different tribes and cultures does not make him a representation of them.

[@THERATSANDTHERATS]

I feel like the sun bird idea would work more if the bird simply wasn't a turkey, it could be some larger bird but a turkey is weird even more so with it's more sharp and evil head design, it looks regal and ancient from the neck up and dumb bellow that

[@clintonbehrends4659]

the head going upside down and splitting open for the laser attack is just so cool

[@ashuraomega1000]

I get art is subjective and all, but I will NEVER understand how people saw the comical, stylized, and goblinoid designs of the barakoas as "racist". It's also baffling how little people can't recognize the clear difference between mythological inspired creatures and racial stereotypes. Like some of these people really need to be educated on racism if they think living masks posing as goblins in a tribal setting "represents" any racist stereotypes.

[@TheGamingReaper]

I feel like the animations for Umvuthi would be better if she were animated like a mother hen.

[@everlastingdragon4520]

I like the little detail where the healer birds take their masks off and show that their heads really are just orbs of light.

[@Komadena]

Love the detail that Umvuthi, during the sun nova dims the sky, super neat addition.

[@thunnus_albacares]

I think we can have a middle ground between those who want barakas back and those whose doesn’t want the “racist caricature” by adding them as neutral villager basically, they would be naturally passive, and you could trade with them for items that can’t be found somewhere else. They will only attack if you attack first, and they will defeat nearby monsters, so living with them is a valid strategy. They will be somewhat hard to kill, and you will get nothing if you kill them, so best keeping them alive and well And like many people here said, the birds need voiceline to add to the personality

[@RetroMagnus761]

Sadly the creator (mowzie) seems far too up his own ass to do that at the moment, he won't even create texture packs to restore the original barakoas for the fans.

[@kuronya3582]

Baroko ARE neutral if you wearing their mask and with chief mask you can even summon them

[@Kitoucher]

I like the concept of Barako, like he looks like the Sun Chief more than Umvuthi

[@tntaro]

Sincerely i like more Barako design

[@patitninla-or5920]

Barako is the OG

[@BATTEREDUA]

Old is legendary. Old version will better

[@_Hzh21RainingKan]

Sun cheif: *Starts speaking in unknown language* Me: *TF YOU JUST CALL ME!?!*

[@gamingwithfian6041]

Damn, Umvuthi's beatboxing, but i still prefer Barako...

[@TETANUS.]

Can Umvuthi juju on that beat tho?

[@Vitor-hs5mv]

In my opinion, the old Summoners are cooler because they talk

[@TOWNOMIKON]

Я считаю, что очень круто, то что кто-то решил взять в свой мод Барако из Mowzie's Mobs, это значит только то, что человек не зря старался.

[@arianpdf1238]

A barako se le nota más personalidad al igual que sus minions son personajes muy carismático por sus ocurrencias y su forma de hablar

[@Nika-ue9vn]

Average twitter user when they see any culture other than european: RACIST CARICATURE

[@nickg5341]

The barakoa were literally the spitting image of the “feral gibberish-spouting voodoo Pygmy” caricature that’s been used in American media for like 100 years lmao but anyways the mod creator made his own decisions, stop blaming twitter

[@Nika-ue9vn]

@@nickg5341 they literally aren't human lmao, and to my point of view people who were complaining know jack shit about native's history, show me one native person who lives in a tribe that is offended by the Barakoa and I will stfu, in the end the creator can do anything with their mod, I still find the decision stupid

[@nickg5341]

@@Nika-ue9vn It’s about that caricature being used to mock/dehumanize black people in the West moreso than offending the people from the tribes themselves, but I’m not gonna go in depth about that. Figured that was basic history and this type of stuff was generally off-limits like certain slurs and such. If you wanna ignore that and come to your own conclusions about stuff you clearly don’t care to learn about then be my guest tho lol

[@Nika-ue9vn]

@@nickg5341 I understand your argument better now, though I still prefer the Barakoas over whatever these new things are 👍

[@nickg5341]

@@Nika-ue9vn that’s fair I definitely like the personality of the Barakoas more. The new guys lose some of the silliness. They should at least add some voice lines, those would go a long way

[@rotip309]

pisses me off that they had to change barako because people crying about being it racist. but honestly I love Umvuthi

[@BenjaminWhisthuanesbet-ur2is]

Realmente los umvuthi son un cambio muy bueno que remplazan muy bien a los barakoa pero lo malo es la sirvuntancias que se dieron es una pena lo que tuvo que pasar

[@Hershewed]

I love how the first guy is just looking around like “where the hell am I”

[@forthelolz1121]

Ngl, despite this bird dude being really cool, Barako being changed cause people whined on Twitter is beyond dumb. The idea of tribal-like Tiki monsters is something that has been used many times. How is this one offensive? Because someone got offended by it? Pretty dumb if you ask me.

[@cainthechaosdeity9815]

I’m incredibly intrigued by the new change actually, it’s incredibly welcome and much more respectful :) Umvuthi is a very nice change and I love it a lot more than Barako! The design is very unique, 10/10

[@chaseowski510]

I would love to see a dedicated mod made with these enemies and assets, a linear map and order of progression and handmade map!

[@Enperador]

Pues en mi opinión quedó bien entiendo que el creador fuera forzado a eliminarlo por esos ofendidos llorones pero es lo que ay

[@nassir565]

Seeing this gave me so much nostalgia of Mouzie’s mobs..

[@franvan9589]

The cries of the crystals did their "magic" again. At least the re design looks sick af

[@grandmajojo5211]

the sunbird reminds me of skullkid from majoras mask and the horse god from botw, the sounds are so ambient!

[@bobthebuilder6521]

Feels like a lot of the charm of Barako was not carried over to the revision of Umvuthi. I feel like the bass vocals and chants of Barako added a lot to his presence that Umvuthi seemingly lacks entirely. If we're going away from humans it would've been interesting to explore bird vocalizations. Maybe some clicking, chattering of the beak, or long winded bird callings. Bird callings like the White Bellbird might be fitting, or the Screaming Piha. Those callings are quite unique, especially the White Bellbird which sounds pretty eerie. I think it could do some good. I feel like Umvuthi has a lot more interesting excuses for new moves that Barako didn't have before either. Barako being a fat guy just sorta makes sense, but a fat bird usually isn't typical. I think it would've been interesting if Umvuthi had a bowl of seeds he constantly ate from that his tribe members provided and one of his moves was spitting molten seeds towards the player. Umvuthi could also have larger wings, which could be used in his animation of pushing the player away. Maybe he flaps a gust of wind to knock away players. I feel like Umvuthi has a lot less going for them as a character, but has a lot more potentially interesting ideas that can be explored with them that Barako would've lacked due to him just being an overweight human. Overall not bad, but was hoping for a little more.

[@KiddieWaiyan]

Barako really said gwenchana😂

[@hunterz-5579]

I would like the mod had the possibility of having this redesign as a variant or at least decide which design to use when playing with some command

[@karl7699]

There were some benefits with the remodel such as better animations but there were a lot more losses to its design change. Barako could speak which was one of the biggest losses in my opinion because it made the Barakoa feel more alive. With the rework also some things such as spears and darts have completely lost their hook. So in my opinion overall the update was an L mechanically and made the Barakoa which are now the Umvuthana less interesting. The design isn't too shabby though and the animations are a lot better than Barakos. Personally I liked the Barakoa more because they had more too them separating them from the rest of the mindless (albeit cool looking) mobs that are already in Mowzies mobs which are just monsters. Just wish he hadn't turned the Barakoa into a exact copy of the Biloko design wise both being more like monsters than a tribe. Hope Mowzie at least takes more of the good parts of the Barakoa and put them into the Umvuthana. Me personally the best scenario is for Mowzie to just change them back and realizes he cant satisfy everyone, especially complainers who cant appreciate his work.

[@maddeningpup1559]

Sunbird looks cool and all but i dont feel it fits the "big guy with a belly drum" vice as well as Barako. Feels it should be something other than a bird. But it does have some nice animations for what it is. Still prefer barako overall though

[@RetroMagnus761]

The umvuthi and Abavuthana have too much of an alien and ominous vibe to them that doesn't at all fit the vibe of the Savannah or their connection to the Sun. The Abavuthana would be better as a Moon based tribe

[@warriorwatch2406]

@@RetroMagnus761 The Savannah connection is debatable, but the sun connection isn't. They are MUCH more innately connected to the sun than Barako and the Barakoa were as far as design goes.

[@RetroMagnus761]

@@warriorwatch2406 no they aren't. Making them birds doesn't automatically make them more connected to the sun.

[@warriorwatch2406]

@@RetroMagnus761 Them being birds ties them closer to the sky, but you are right, being birds doesn't inherently make them connected to the sun. But them literally having mini-suns for heads does.

[@RetroMagnus761]

@@warriorwatch2406 i guess

[@RILGORILLA]

Barako really said "GUENCHANA" lmao💀

[@sunrise1077]

Barako truly was something, really great design and sounds, But I would be lying if I said Umvuthi was incredible as well, magnificent design and sounds and animations all around.

[@owendowling1439]

Rip. funny, Tikki man. I understand why it was replaced. But I never thought it was racist. I really hope someone from this culture they’re based on can have some understanding and tell him it’s OK to add them back

[@Constructiconz3008]

This is truly a we will not forget the red sun over paradise moment

[@AVeryStableFusion]

Could make a Zelda adventure map out of these mods.

[@ppusher2354]

this reminds me of when i wanted to make minecraft mods, also why the sudden update after all this time unless i havent been paying attention

[@oogabooga2735]

so it’s just a remodel.

[@ultra6351]

And removal of the gibberish voice lines, yes. Honestly, it’s not that big a deal. Yes they did this over Twitter being mad of all things, but it’s not like they completely wiped the characters from the mod

[@MrBags3737]

I havnt heard of this umvuthi until now

[@GrantH130]

They both have the belly smack animation

[@d4n737]

So... Are Barakas actually racist? I mean, if you look at it at face value, sure. They're little tribesmen in masks and their chieftan is a fat sun demigod.... But in order for something to be racist... well, it needs to actually be "Racist". What is that supposed to be racist towards? You might say "African culture", yeah, but which one though. Plenty of them involve masks for different purposes, sun symbology; hell, I would even say that Barako has some elements of Mesoamerican culture with a face of gold and stuff, and looking more Mayan than, say, Maasai. If those were little knights from a Canterlot-sounding castle, speaking English-french-german-simlish, would people say it's racist towards all Europeans? If those were little samurai warriors, speaking in anime grunts and vaguely japanese sounding gibberish, would people say it's racist towards Asians, or even just Japanese? If those were little cartoon romans with big shields that looked like Marvin the Martian and yelled military "Hut"s and "Hrumpf"s, would people say it's racist towards... Anyone? If this is a racist caricature, then of whom exactly, because I cannot pin them to any existing culture. And if you say "Africans because they're tribesmen with a fat chief" THAT'S racist. Cause first of all, Africa isn't the only place with tribal culture. Barako's fat, so he could be more a caricature of a polynesian stereotype. But you cannot take a trope of "Tribe people" and reserve them for Africa specifically. As for why the author changed them... Well, He saw some streamer or whoever making..... problematic comments about the Barakas. But I would say that's more the streamers problem... In fact, no I am 100% sure that it is. Moral of the story: Don't play the social justice game. You will always lose in time. No matter how holy thou art, there will be someone holier than thou sooner or later.

[@ashuraomega1000]

There's no point in arguing with the nut jobs in this comment section. They're so convinced they are right that they've thrown away all forms of logic just to appease their broken feelings. But what more can you truly expect from emotionally unintelligent people?

[@Shovel________________]

i interpreted the whole "racism" thing as targeted towards like, the aztecs or some other mesoamerican civilization. iirc they had a big history of worshipping the sun, but honestly arguing that it is racist is stupid and the people who made that connection to begin with are utterly deranged.

[@d4n737]

@@Shovel________________ I mean, yeah, but Mesoamericans weren't tribal. They had a society about as advanced as the Roman Empire. People tend to picture them as an "Ancient society", but the Aztec empire acually fell in the XVI century. But certainly not tribal, they had a monarchy like most societies at the time. They were just technologically behind due to isolation from the rest of the world. But culture and politics was at quite a high level. I'm running out of topic, the sun worship is pretty much the only thing that reminds me of the Maya or Aztecs. Nothing else really points to them

[@sizescomparasions7261]

When I first saw Umvuthi I thought someone created a mod and simply copied Barako

[@Kniotus]

When i saw the update I though The bird guy will be a Barako’s enemy but then I realized the sacrifice made

[@DreamNeverFound]

Is there anyway to bring back old suncheif?

[@Alexprime-ve1od]

Do they drop their masks or the bosses don't do that?

[@user-do2rq3oh4u]

Barako's tribe reminds me of the Old Horde from Warcraft. The birds remind me of the Kyrian Covenant from Shadowlands. Make of that what you will

[@lestertheguy1734]

One is retextured (albeit pretty well) and the other is barako I think the bird is the better animation

[@Sparrow_Bloodhunter]

Someone should just make a mod that adds barako back so we can have both.

[@ashuraomega1000]

People asked mowzie (the creator) if he would make texture packs to restore the original designs and he refused.

[@warriorwatch2406]

@@ashuraomega1000 But he has given express permission allowing people to do it themselves, so at least that's something.

[@Sparrow_Bloodhunter]

@@ashuraomega1000 I don't want a texture replacer, I want them both separately so they can fight each other.

[@ashuraomega1000]

@@Sparrow_Bloodhunter yeah, have barako as the sun chief and make umvuthi the moon bird

[@Sparrow_Bloodhunter]

Barako: there ain't enough sun in this town for both of us. Bird with hard to remember name: squawk

[@insectzilla673]

Umvuthi definitely knows where to aim

[@IsaiahJones-rw1pc]

I don't understand the argument for the barakoas being racist. Their designs and inspiration have nothing to do with any depictions of African tribes or their cultures. The barakoas are just goblinoid creatures that are located in a tribal setting, it's not fair to immediately assume that they are meant to be representations of Africans. Just because they may vaguely resemble something that might appear to be a stereotype doesn't mean they themselves are meant to perpetuate or represent said stereotype. By that logic characters like knuckles the echidna from the sonic the hedgehog series should also be classified as racist since his character design has dreads that are reminiscent of a black person, furthermore knuckles is the last of his kind who were a tribe of indigenous echidnas that were located on a remote island that possesed weapons such as spears and dressed up as what you would perceive stereotypical African tribes to look like (facial paint, gold necklaces, tiki/ caveman esque attires, feathered clothing, Pygmy skin tones, ect ect). Should we throw that character, his people, and by extension many other characters across fiction away simply because they will offend a small minority of people online who don't even know anything about the backgrounds of said characters? Any sane person would automatically say no. Obviously everyone is entitled to their own opinions when it comes to this kind of stuff but it's clear as day that when you look at this situation through more objective lenses, the arguments for the barako and barakoas resembling any racial connotations lacks any real critical thought and falls apart once you start to assess them for what they truly are, which is just weirdos online getting offended over nothing.

[@thefoxboi9940]

But was Barako removed from all previous versions as well or only from 1.18 and above?

[@RetroMagnus761]

1.18 and above. Mowzie doesn't backport

[@Psy-Why]

barako just has that nostalgia factor

[@skurldud101]

Man the inlfation community is gonna get some ideas

[@itlivesinthewalls68430]

Tbh the old ones weren't even racist, I prefer the bird but the old ones are only vaugley tribal? They weren't even automatically hostile

[@Shovel________________]

i do like Umvuthi as it had some pretty cool animations, as well as the very animalistic sort of style it had. however, barako is just more iconic and much better fits within the aesthetics of minecraft. the voicelines barako has definitely help make it more memorabe.

[@kanecirooey3160]

Barakoa will still be in my heart and will never leave