BARCRUSHER where is my SELF DRAINING DECK

[@samefishingaustralia]

I asked you about self draining deck in your previous video. I've been looking for a video like this for ages! Thanks heaps great info! Keep up the great work mate 👍👍👍👍

[@BaitBallin]

Most welcome mate!!✌️👍

[@MicheeeeeObiMrs]

Wow I love your zipper. Why the hell didn't I think of that. I was a machinist for 28 years so should have thought of that. Lol. Brilliant idea.

[@BaitBallin]

haha yeah it's awesome

[@JT-jy2sy]

Come into my office LoL. I hope it clicks all of the whs boxes. Good to see you look better than your last video. Wish you a full recovery!

[@BaitBallin]

thanks Jack, last video I was in so much pain now feeling 50% better. can't wait to get out fishing again, soon✌️👍

[@MicheeeeeObiMrs]

My biggest issue I have with our 670HT is that the bunk areas are not water tight. Was not happy when I discovered this after our first trip out. I know I should have checked it, but our old glass boat had was water tight, so I just presumed this would be too. NOPE. It got me a two day ban from the Bar Crusher page for actually mentioning it on the facebook page too. To this day, I still HATE that it is not water tight. I understand everyone said it is because if you take on water, it has to drain away. Well, be smart and put a bilge pump in there or the other smart way is to have a couple of big bungs in it. Sorry to throw this in on your video page, but I guess a self draining deck would most likely eliminate the water issue in the bunk area.

[@BaitBallin]

totally agree!! the bunks should be sealed

[@hieuphan4264]

The bunk is not water tight as in it leak from the top ? Or because there is no step up seperate the front bunk area and the back deck ? Cheers

[@jasonellis5202]

Stickflex around your bung !

[@dantolo817]

Yeah great listening once again one arm bandit haha Keep up the videos 🇦🇺👍❤️

[@BaitBallin]

hahaha yes I will literally fight a fish in a few weeks one armed!!

[@jb243wp]

Footage of you going through these 6ft curling breaking swells with 50-60k winds please?? Get your self a secondary much larger backup bilge pump ideally one with an inbuilt float, set it about 2-3 inches higher than your main bilge. Run a separate outlet hose and run it directly off you house battery, NO SWITCHES, only the positive and negative wires required, this will eliminate any potential switch problems in an emergency 👍 Good vid👍

[@BaitBallin]

yeah didn't film, Ganesh almost cried telling me to stop and to turn it around.dont do it often, but kinda had no choice we committed and there was no going back. 50-60km winds were offshore, gusting that day, 40km nominal.40km in that last video as I was filming. yeah float switch back up pimp is definitely a good idea!!!! I was literally minutes away from that band new 670c sinking while docked.

[@Aussie3333]

Great info video again mate!! I wish I had the cash to buy a boat! One day I will and it will be a bar crusher

[@BaitBallin]

sounds good mate!!!👍

[@ozcampnhuntdan7858]

Get a surtees, bar crusher stole their ideas then cut corners.

[@BeowulfNode]

Start with a smaller 2nd hand boat. Stick to fine weather days, and sheltered waterways to keep within what the boat and your skill level can handle. Second hand boats retain a lot of their value. Then when you have more cash you can upgrade, but in the meantime you'll be able to be out on the water enjoying yourself. Plus you'll have a better idea of the sorts of things you actually want in your dream boat. Just because this guy loves offshore fishing doesn't mean you will.

[@jasonellis5202]

If your boat gets swamped a 2000 G bilge won't dump it out fast enough and you'll cop another one. Then your in real trouble. If your mainly working offshore it should be mandatory. My 640 is self draining, about 140mm less freeboard, but extra 100 litres in fuel and kill tanks. Its a no brainer...

[@BaitBallin]

I wouldn't buy a boat for self draining specifically.... If the boat I actually wanted had it, cool. If not doesn't worry me. Been doing this for over 30 years and haven't needed one

[@jasonellis5202]

Well hoping all go's well and you don't need one for the next 30 years

[@gypana]

There's only so much they can raise the floor because the boat will become dangerously unstable so that's why most trailer boats don't self drain...only the cats have self drain design, but they're on another level to mono's anyway.

[@BaitBallin]

Yeah agree. The 730 and 780 is a much deeper sides, larger volume boat so they can have self draining and maintain stability

[@gypana]

@@BaitBallin Oh yeah in that size range they can accommodate to allow for it but plate boats have always suffered from being light compared to glass in the same size range so they become very unstable if they design them with anything over 21 degrees deadrise, they just become too buoyant whereas glass boats are heavier and bite the sea a bit deeper to get the chines in...It's another reason why the side coaming or topsides are so wide on good plate designs to keep passengers more central in the cockpit for stability.

[@BaitBallin]

Yes absolutely..... Makes sense.

[@MicheeeeeObiMrs]

Sorry to add anther one, but I noticed a hole in your bilge area. We dont have this in ours which I would really love to have too. Would make it much easier for cleaning.

[@BaitBallin]

I can't understand how you're differs? interesting

[@scottfoster1639]

It’s the drain plug not in

[@dannymilne4681]

Cracked transom on a new glass boat or older ? Are you comparing old glass boats to your newish bar crushed ? I've minimum 700mm freebaord at the lowest point on my 5m glass boat upto 780mm at the highest.

[@BaitBallin]

transoms and floors old, broken seats out of floors near new, stress cracks all over boat near new, bolts and things falling off all of them. Many of our glass boats had as little as 620mm down the back. late model Haines hunters, Cruise crafts the works. Many have plenty of freeboard, like the Alison's I owned. but some don't. But things constantly fell off nearly all of them. Minor, but just mainly annoying tbh and no that's not the reason I have gone plate. This boat while not at soft a glass boat, I just hose it, kick it a few times for good measure and it's done.

[@BaitBallin]

we have re built numerous floors and transoms and have had / seen 5 year old glass boats with signs of rot. thats why my last few were Allison's with no wood under the floor at all, many brands are doing this now which is very good.

[@CaptDavesSportfishing]

I HAVE ONE I wouldnt own a boat without one. My boat doesnt even have a bilge pump. 2-1/2 inch scuppers on each stern corner, and some people I know had 2 extra built in for even more.

[@BaitBallin]

hey Dave, no doubt a much larger boat though

[@BaitBallin]

i believe the smaller crushers don't have it due to what I have mentioned, wouldn't be enough freeboard left. also perhaps it would raise the centre of gravity too much unpacking stability in the smaller ones. the 730 and 780 barcrushers are MUCH bigger volume boats so they can make it work easily.

[@BeowulfNode]

There are other ways water can get in to your boat than over the side and on top of the deck. As this guy experienced, a bilge pump gives you precious time to work out and enact a plan before your boat sinks. What if some stray electrical current corrodes some holes below deck while you're out camping? Or a bigger stronger boat crashes in to you at speed while you're asleep at anchor? Or any number of other ways water can get in. A bilge pump offers an option for returning to properly floating after plugging the hole(s), which the pump can give you the time needed to do so. I know plate boats are tough but they are not invincible.

[@Canopy4uAu]

I’m starting to think this is just a Barcrusher paid site. I think your missing the point of having second options as a back up systems. A serious offshore boats needs to have back up options. Every point you made was based on having a working bilge pump, now let’s just say that failed and your 50km offshores. While unlikely, it can happened, just ask the Sailfish S8 owner who had this exact problem last year on the south coast of NSW. It’s at this point your’ll be looking for a self draining deck. Also why do you think Barcrusher offer self draining decks on their bigger boats? Is it because they see those as a serious offshore boats but not the 670HT?

[@BaitBallin]

I'd say it's because the 730 and 780 are much much larger boats (much deeper in sides) plus wider. freeboard on 670 would be too low with self draining deck, could even impact stability on 670 and below due to raised centre of gravity. those would be my guesses anyway....and yes having 1 or even 2 bilge pumps is obviously critical

[@BaitBallin]

and no affiliation with BC at all, don't even know if they watch any of my videos and they probably wouldn't like several of them.

[@jb243wp]

If you 50k's off shore and your bilge fails potentially common sense being you shouldn't be out that far without a secondry back up. Serious off shore trailer boats say like the 233 formula's don't all come with self draining decks, pretty sure that it is an optional extra. If one becomes stranded 50k's off shore with no power at all to run a bilge it may be a problem, but for self draining deck to work adequately (with exception of bigger commercial fishing boats) the boat needs to be up on the plane to work at their full potential. Both have advantages and disadvantages, I've owed boats with both, can't say I'd prefer either, but I wouldn't go out of my way to install them if they weren't factory standard. Mored boats and commercial fishers I think it is essential, recreational trailer boats probably not so much.

[@BaitBallin]

100% agree mate. very few fibreglass serious offshore offshore trailer boats even have them, self draining decks have nothing to do with being a serious offshore boat. it's just one way of getting water out of the boat. Been offshore hundreds of times, with one bilge pump. check operation before every trip, no dramas. a second one wouldn't hurt though.

[@slartibartfast5827]

@@BaitBallin Like your vids - you touched on the real issue - how much water does anyone's boat take on or is at risk of taking on and answer really initially depends on design. We had a plate 6.2m centre console and were in close trawling when a wave popped on a sandbar. I was in standing in bow looking over stern and it broke over my head and literally filled the boat - down the stern water initially went over gunnels and the comment was it was like watching the bathtub drain it went out that fast (two scuppers about 8"x5"). No average pump works that fast or that reliably. There are also some rigs that easily can take them over the stern backing up (esp with tilt not adjusted).It's a personal preference but if you've had a scare I reckon you become convert and if you have one you're not at the mercy of electrics - you run a great BC rig but the majority of boats probably aren't as new or polished and some only have one battery (I know - why would anyone?).

[@baoscruiser]

Kickass introduction...🤙🏼

[@BaitBallin]

thanks mate!!! will look even better with some fishing action attached shortly....