Those mini bass demos in the scaled car are so dope ……😂
@matk22 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to eposide 🤖15🤖 of boom or bust 😂😂
@Bassotronics Жыл бұрын
He probably said 16 and overlayed the audio. 😁
@antreaskonstantinou8585 Жыл бұрын
@@Bassotronics nice to see the bass OG watching these videos
@Bassotronics Жыл бұрын
@@antreaskonstantinou8585 I love this series!
@girthquake9655 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@brandonandashleyofield9220 Жыл бұрын
The enclosure is too large for the driver.
@christryba5536 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for testing my submission ! I did not do any calculations on it, as i dont know how :p My music preference is low and slow bass, so it works out :) But test the other "similar" enclosure for sure.
@volvo09 Жыл бұрын
That's what I would have done too, just make something up, haha
@nnperformance76 Жыл бұрын
Nice design without doing any calculations... good job! No disrespect ! these(snail) box designs r difficult to build in the real world not interested in another design similar in design. Thanks u 4 submitting neat to see...
@annybodykila11 ай бұрын
Low and slow is the way to go 💪👍
@atticchopshop8180 Жыл бұрын
BTW I was the guy that asked Hexi to be on boom or bust. That episode of his q&a is still there for anybody to listen.
@madyui Жыл бұрын
Definitely do the Fibonacci spiral. Would be great to demonstrate how guesswork compares to calculation
@fusion82 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see this same box with a consistent port width tuned around 30hz. I think how that port gets smaller at the opening is probably messing with the potential of it.
@TheMisieekPL Жыл бұрын
Great episode! Enjoyed it! Please do the second fibonacci enclosure also!
@toddspraker8916 Жыл бұрын
If Hexibase makes one it's all over.
@adrianortiz31323 ай бұрын
You should go up in size to a 3 inch with each design. I love these little episodes
@fusion823 ай бұрын
Waiting patiently for episode 16 lol. I miss these series
@Bassotronics Жыл бұрын
I think what Pete said about the frequencies is correct because low frequencies tend to move more air and chuff more through the ports than the high frequencies do so the overall performance in the end is not to scale.
@barevids Жыл бұрын
The scaling works perfectly buddy.
@Bassotronics Жыл бұрын
@@barevids Ok cool. 👍🏻 That’s good.
@JasonWW2000 Жыл бұрын
Remember that hexibase was replying to a question as to whether or not a subwoofer enclosure can scale up in size. The answer is no, unless you also scale the size of the sound frequencies. If you scale both of them, then it works just fine.
@atticchopshop8180 Жыл бұрын
That 7th order design Hexi did is crazy but did you see his IG? He just made a HUGE one like that 😲😲
@sMASHsound Жыл бұрын
Yes do the fibonacci. Also, do over ALLL enclosures in the csbin, find their BEST frequencies and see how loud do they get at tgeir best.
@Abowe3404 Жыл бұрын
GET THE CUT OUT RIGHT!!!!!!🤣🤣🤣love the series sam keep up the good work!!
@atticchopshop8180 Жыл бұрын
Or he just put the speaker on backwards lol
@Abowe3404 Жыл бұрын
@@atticchopshop8180 duh lol I was joking about his post on Facebook and the short he posted😂😂
@atticchopshop8180 Жыл бұрын
@@Abowe3404 Lol yeah, I saw the short here on YT.
@zachariavallickad7264 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, kid. Keep it up.
@johnkurpiewski3996 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see Pete design an enclosure he doesn’t have to print it !! Do a Colab !!
@DeafeningSounds Жыл бұрын
Sam addressed this before, he goes it’s not worth his time / effort. Maybe if enough people say it to him he might just do it
@richbrown5852 Жыл бұрын
Very humble, Sam...hexibase needs to get to work!
@deviant4life25 Жыл бұрын
Best Series on KZbin
@nnperformance76 Жыл бұрын
Imperial box anyone? Or a simetrical loaded Design?
@nnperformance76 Жыл бұрын
Any update u can share with us whats happening? Not negative 100%, just invested in seeing this/you succeed? Its been silent for quite a while...
@barevids Жыл бұрын
Interest in this series was way lower than expected and was costing more than it was making so I'm unsure right now
@nnperformance76 Жыл бұрын
@barevids Thanks for replying... doing what we love (dreams/visions) are not for everyone. Wish you the best... Never give up... 1 day everyone that doubted u will tell everyone when they met you. Good luck in the future. Joyfully looking forward to seeing where you go from here? 👍
@chokechange Жыл бұрын
awesome
@atticchopshop8180 Жыл бұрын
Any update on this series pls?
@michaelfessenden8601 Жыл бұрын
That was a interesting build good thing it was a scaled-down and 3d printed that would be an extensive build.
@keatonjones6115 Жыл бұрын
i submitted a ported W-bin sub i think the peeps would like!!! needs few supports for bracing but not hard to remove and probs less print time than most still!
@tigerelectronics5966 Жыл бұрын
Ohmygosh, thank you!! I wanted to submit that a lot but I have no CAD Skills!!! :D I would also love to see it with the ports blocked, so please try that Sam if you are reading this!! :D You might be able to use foam to block the ports! The reason I want to see this so badly is that I have a pair of sealed W-bin's, and for outdoor music they perform amazingly down to around 40hz :D
@richbrown5852 Жыл бұрын
F2b are beasts!
@keatonjones6115 Жыл бұрын
@@tigerelectronics5966 oooo good idea id love to see the difference too, Niceeeee, i dont own any but the original design (Klipsch la scala) and experiencing them at outdoor events has me curious in the same way! and maybe given large mouth area horns have done well in the past, maybe the W-bin will be the winner in an enclosed space!
@tigerelectronics5966 Жыл бұрын
@@keatonjones6115 hehe the efficiency is also brutal, I just run my two from a 75 watt per channel amp and it's plenty, and I've just got some cheapo 15" drivers in them! :) if I use the amplifiers full potential, it hurts my internal organs to stand Infront of them C: Yes, I definitely think they'll Win! But they will suffer on the really deep low end, since they can't really reproduce anything below 40hz with any decent efficiency. But I still think the average will be so extremely high that they'll win! :D You're a lifesaver, now I finally get to see impedance curves and everything of a W-bin! I've always wondered how they look like, my amplifier runs extremely hot when driving them, so I suspect the impedance is very low all the time which is honestly perfect:) Gosh I hope Sam takes the submission, I really want to see this!
@TheAceTroubleshooter Жыл бұрын
NExt episode you should revisit all the other boxes, finding out if they improve their scores with moving them around like you did this one. Cheers brotha. PS - Check out the numbers of the fibi box, and if they are good (which I have a huge hunch they will be) let us see em!
@Bassotronics Жыл бұрын
Lol. I made that design 2 years ago for a 3” grs speaker. Was not impressed though since it sounded just as loud as the square conventional box. At least my version did.
@ashneilroy Жыл бұрын
Amazing series!
@mkloudsql3285 Жыл бұрын
Spiral T-line very nice
@johnd5542 Жыл бұрын
Make that port a little narrower or longer and that box would be a beast on the lows. Its a shame its not tuned appropriately.
@charliefrancis6438 Жыл бұрын
I have have watched every one and I agree with pete , I think there’s something going on with your scaling model, but I still love watching this 👍🏻
@JasonWW2000 Жыл бұрын
Remember that Pete is responding to the question as to whether or not a subwoofer enclosure can be scaled up. He answered correctly in saying no. A more correct answer would be no, unless the frequencies were also scaled which is exactly what Sam is doing. He's scaling both the enclosures and the frequencies together.
@barevids Жыл бұрын
I promise you buddy that this all scales perfectly. I made sure to do plenty of research before starting this.
@chrishuyler3580 Жыл бұрын
Since we are scaling the frequencies as well, and the results are falling in line with common knowledge of their full-size counterparts, I am going to assume Pete did not actually watch a full introduction to this test before making his assessment. It's a fun series and I enjoy your analysis of the impedance curve and harmonics. It's all stuff DIYers/Hobbyists spend a lot of time "modeling" but very little time actually building and testing in a controlled environment.
@ckjuicyj82 Жыл бұрын
This enclosure is sick! Personally I love the lows. In that 20-30 range. Noone makes boxes tuned low enough though. Im trying to get a box for 2 12s tuned to like 28 Hz but they are always tuned 32 or even 35. Anyone know of any quality boxes out there tuned to even 30? Even Gately only tunes down to 32.
@sevendyseven4090 Жыл бұрын
Make your port longer by a bit >> kzbin.info/www/bejne/moaTopyonZiIqpo
@westreadwell9675 Жыл бұрын
Is this series dead? 😢
@amirbasssystem5 ай бұрын
Please do a pickup on this
@Dracowolf90 Жыл бұрын
what about adding an enclosed section on the back of the speaker
@wow1022 Жыл бұрын
if you allow us to do isobaric designs we could get even crazier with box designs with the general enclosure size reduction that isobaric allows
@666nacirema666 Жыл бұрын
The cornu spiral horn would be interesting to see modified for this application.
@666nacirema666 Жыл бұрын
I think you should do the other one youve talked about using the fibonacci sequence. Would be interesting to see.
@herus6672 Жыл бұрын
Genelec has similar design sub. Barrel like subwoofer and the port is spiraled
@BeSome1 Жыл бұрын
I should have a enclosure for you in a week or two. Going to tackle the test print this week end. I think you will like it😉. I see you are using cura as your slicer what printer are you using?
@wetdookie3808 Жыл бұрын
Seems like a compound tappedhorn with higher tuned front and low tuned rear facing ports would take the podium
@KD2HJP Жыл бұрын
Put it on its side, use clay as a prop. Rotate port on enclosure in the y axis
@steve390gold Жыл бұрын
A 147 is a STRONG score at 25 scaled hz!!!!
@ApexPredatorDMZ4 ай бұрын
i made a 12"" sub enclosure like this out of MDF
@nnperformance76 Жыл бұрын
Just.wonder 🤔? Could the amp/source be playing a bigger factor than we think? 🤔 the tests have been the same however...distortion or gain or who knows from the amp or source? Just a thought....
@alexanderedwards989 Жыл бұрын
Could you do a passive radiator? Does that even interest you? If so I have an idea for a combination 4th order/passive radiator type setup…
@barevids Жыл бұрын
Yep can do
@kushfromhandsworth6601 Жыл бұрын
6:51 WUBWUBWUWUWUWUBWUBWUWUB
@azzmomootr Жыл бұрын
Can you make a bass music playlist on you channel 😁 That would be wicked sweet awesome 👌
@nnperformance76 Жыл бұрын
Is boom or bust.. over???
@barevids Жыл бұрын
No
@Makin_misubishi Жыл бұрын
What is that first bass track 😩🙏
@georgem635910 ай бұрын
Hi. Anything else coming?
@barevids10 ай бұрын
No more boom or bust for now, not enough interest
@K-Effect Жыл бұрын
Was this the last episode of season one for Boom or Bust?
@barevids Жыл бұрын
Nah just been busy
@K-Effect Жыл бұрын
@@barevids cool, I was getting worried
@stul4013 Жыл бұрын
this needs running on a crossover with another speaker design box for the other higher frequencies seperate
@TheSimulatorSmith Жыл бұрын
They build the box the the speaker listed if it doesn’t work well that a design issue.
@bassheadforeverclub2118 Жыл бұрын
What happened to episode 16
@barevids Жыл бұрын
Not enough interest
@Okicombo Жыл бұрын
That enclosure should be called the Nautilus.
@partizans7 Жыл бұрын
When be some new video?
@bjornholt91 Жыл бұрын
maybe a bit too late, but what song at 8 min?
@randomtube82267 ай бұрын
Is this the last episode in season 1? Haven't noticed any uploads in this series lately.
@barevids7 ай бұрын
Planning a wrap-up episode
@KClO3 Жыл бұрын
have you thought about using an electric motor with a rotational converter (like an engine piston) that way you can put huge power into the motor and for cheaaaaap! unlike regular high power woofers
@JasonWW2000 Жыл бұрын
It would certainly improve efficiency since normal speakers are only about 1% efficient. The downside is how would you be able to quickly transition between different frequencies? Like if you had a bass tone that was alternating between 20 40 60 20... Most electric motors are not able to speed up and slow down very quickly.
@KClO3 Жыл бұрын
@@JasonWW2000 it would use a 3 phase brushless motor optimally, it would be limited to some non complex bass lines though but I'm sure it would be worth it
@JasonWW2000 Жыл бұрын
@@KClO3 Also, how would you control the volume? Sometimes the cone needs to move very little and sometimes a lot. Motor speed would control the frequency, but you need an adjustable stroke for the volume. I remember a sub that used an electric motor. Look up the Phoenix Gold Cyclone. Its a rotary sub. There's also the Thigpen Rotary Woofer which is like a fan. Neither design could better the conventional subwoofer. As inefficient as current subs are, they are affordable, can deliver low distortion bass and play a wide frequency range.
@christopherboylen8901 Жыл бұрын
Any interest in repairing a Bass 30K?
@jayshepherd6525 Жыл бұрын
Its clearly not tuned for the higher frequencies. It does damn good for the size of the woofer.
@TimpBizkit Жыл бұрын
How are you taking the average? Are you just doing the mean of the decibel number or are you converting to powers of 10 and taking the logarithm of the mean log(mean(10^dB/10))? (E.g. mean of 60 dB and 0 dB is 30 dB, but power based mean is around 57 dB.)
@barevids Жыл бұрын
Just the average buddy
@TimpBizkit Жыл бұрын
@@barevids I was just curious because 150 dB is 10 x the magnitude of 140, thus the average of 145 is actually less than the mean sound level.
@barevids Жыл бұрын
@@TimpBizkit you raise a good point!
@TonaviusBonqwaivius-wl1zt Жыл бұрын
Damn 16 hz is crazy😂
@Grommet2007 Жыл бұрын
Interesting design, but tuned too low. Take a Dremel to it and cut back the outside wall from the mouth back until lowest Fb rises to about 150 Hz. Then test it again :-).
@JasonWW2000 Жыл бұрын
He tests the design as it was sent in.
@arnicus208 Жыл бұрын
9:09- Said your mom
@Dracowolf90 Жыл бұрын
really windy box design
@NiliMoto Жыл бұрын
It doesn't scale tho 😢
@mullinperformanceaudio5902 Жыл бұрын
Life ends at 20HZ.
@NickFudge1 Жыл бұрын
Begins*
@TxcMiasma7 ай бұрын
Those numbers are not correct. 25 Hz not sounded like an 80-100 hz note. Not sure what scaling is.
@barevids7 ай бұрын
Watch the pilot episode to understand this series
@greenbassboosts8872 Жыл бұрын
Horn not designed to load the cone... Floppy loose cone slapping around
@RyanBassForLife Жыл бұрын
It's tuned way to low!
@Widowmaker2828 Жыл бұрын
Never!
@williamkillingsworth2619 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why u call it scaled. Why not just call it the frequency you are testing instead of relating it to sub usage.
@barevids Жыл бұрын
Because that's what this whole series and community is about, car audio. No one cares what a speaker is doing at 150hz but they want to know if a certain design will be worth building for 25hz in their car. The pilot episode explains all this.
@williamkillingsworth2619 Жыл бұрын
@@barevids Gotcha, I missed the pilot description, will take a look at it. Enjoyed the series, especially getting into the impedance graph and box loading. Good stuff!!
@bradlycriswell1990 Жыл бұрын
you need a 25hz scaled chart aswell. the loudest box is cool. Aswell as averaging the scores for the leaderboard. But it would be awesome to see a specific 25hz leaderboard.
@proluxelectronics7419 Жыл бұрын
Chill, drop a vid when you can. No rush mate.
@TheGodofSEO Жыл бұрын
Shot you an email. Let’s connect when you get a chance