Baron Instruction Flight

This is just an instructional video for anyone that is planning on flying my Baron. Not perfect but it's a great overview of what you have to do to fly it. It's also a little long but it covers all phases of flight and should get you ready to fly a P Baron.

[@s4aviator804]

This is probably the most unusual procedure I've seen for starting cold Continentals.

[@calvinnickel9995]

Me too. I’ve got thousands of hours behind all kinds of fuel injected Continentals. The only time I ever used full throttle was for a flooded start.. which was rare because I’d always purge the system on a hot start and use just slightly less fuel.

[@thefireman2854]

True, I only utilised it with a flooded engine. However, I can say they fired right up with little cranking. I am going to give this a try next time just to see.

[@sleepyhorses6100]

@@thefireman2854 1/4 Throttle, Mixture Cutoff, Fuel Pump ON, Mixture Full Rich, Allow Fuel Flow to stabilize then count to 7 seconds, Mixture Cutoff, 1/2 INCH Throttle, Start Engine and slowly introduce mixture on fire - this is the ideal cold start procedure on continentals with the Bendix fuel setup that you'll find in the P-Baron. It will fire right up and should be below 1000RPM. What we see in the video is closer to a hot start procedure albeit with too much prime.

[@Lumpschlevot]

Usually crank while drawing back the throttle slowly to avoid the spike in RPM. She will fire where she likes and settle throttle at 1000. After a while, you will get a feel for what rate you draw the throttle back so it starts and runs up to 1000 RPM without the rev he had on a cold engine. Flooded, props up, throttles up, mixtures cut off. Crank till it fires, immediately mixture rich and in the same movement, throttle down to idle.

[@AvroBus]

I've got over 1,000 hours in old BE-55s and BE-58s... I only vaguely remember the start up routine. I do remember though that the Continentals were really easy to hot start... Unlike injected Lycomings on the Aztec. And my Barons had black & white horizons and ribbon DIs!!!

[@Lumpschlevot]

Very nice but archaic. Nice reminder of how far cockpit design has come. Nice old airplane though. I would still love to have that airplane. Thanks for sharing.

[@RJ9mech]

Nice CHTs on both engines. I'm sure the mechanic liked you. 👍🏻

[@tucmat]

A legend in his own mind . . . .

[@Wilma1529]

Excitingly entertaining. A Great Teacher and thorough indeed is The Pilot!

[@theflyingstones6840]

MrBnuu, in a turbocharged aircraft the manifold pressure is much higher. I was taught like you but most instructors don't have the experience in a turbocharged plane. That rule is just a general rule of thumb, always do what the manufacturer says.

[@briancota4544]

Thank you for putting this out there. I fly a Baron sim weekly and at some point would like to get my license. Going through the checklists and your various comments through the video will help me fly more authentically.

[@bernardanderson7569]

I'm looking forward to seeing and flying in the G58 Baron and hopefully he has a WAAS.

[@eudesrafael3029]

Amazing work! Thank you so much for sharing this content with us. Have nice flights captain!

[@billbargar2284]

Outstanding informational VLOG for the 58P and great 👍 use of the check list. Please keep these coming .

[@tucmat]

"Great use of the check list" This is what happens when someone is anxious to impress someone with what he or she knows. Please advise as to how and why the right engine fuel pump was not turned off after start up, per the afterstart check list. If that was missed, that makes me wonder what else was missed.

[@guitarTennisCarHomeFixFlying]

thanks for talkin through all the procedures that's something I always asked my instructors to do your very safe pilot. and thanks for letting all the other experienced pilots have their say I guess everybody's got a different opinion but but great great videos

[@subliminll]

Very nice talk through of everything you are doing. Hope to see more videos like this, you can tell you definitely know how to instruct.

[@tucmat]

"Know how to instruct" At the beginning and at the end you say you' re a big believer of check lists. Not a big deal, but at start up, after starting the right engine you did not turn off the fuel pump as suggested by the checklist. In what I kinda see as showmanship and slick knowledge of the aircraft, if you missed something as simple as the fuel pump, what else did you miss?

[@-freespirit-3314]

Excellent tutorial...thanks 👍🏻 greetings from the Netherlands.

[@jefar53]

I would turn on the battery and alternators one at a time that way if one of them shorted the system or caused an issue you will know which one caused it

[@calvinnickel9995]

If you have a problem you can always turn the switches on and off one at a time. For the Seminole I learned to fly on this is how we checked to see if each alternator was functioning.

[@davidpartridge9459]

Like the clear straightforward instruction thank you. Please explain why the start with full throttle?

[@bernardanderson7569]

The Baron B58P which I've flown in is a beautiful Muti engine aircraft to fly in and it does very well at fuel burn that we Flight planned at atFL 180 and with a passenger aboard with a dog we had a cabin pressure at 10,000 feet

[@billiondollardan]

I'm not a pilot but this kind of stuff is really neat to see. Thanks for the video!

[@Lumpschlevot]

Mixture rich slowly on those engines. 1 click at a time. Those fuel spikes at the injectors on the cylinder heads can cause cracks between the cooler injector ports and hot exhaust ports on the cylinder heads. Rapid change in temp in that spot creates such a delta in temps cracks can and do form. Gets expensive. Ask me how I know.

[@dgheonmd]

Nice vid. Love the flow / checklist method. Makes things less clunky! Thanks for the instructions.

[@tucmat]

The checklist method works when you use it. If the checklist suggests that under present conditions you turn off the fuel pump after start up, does that mean for the left engine only or both engines?

[@jortiz42]

Nice video!!!

[@nathanreid2974]

27:51 what is that sound in the background, that thing winding down

[@sarfraz-ulhaque7022]

Great instructional video and very helpful. Thanks a lot!

[@chuckmartin5773]

Awesome, thanks for sharing!

[@jameswaldron1]

very good video. Like the pressurization. Wish all barons had it, to get over some Florida weather here in the teens.

[@michaeljohn8905]

I am only a Student pilot with a couple hundred hours in SEL & MEL airplanes . I’m also a 4 year apprentice A&P. I only have a question is it normal in the Starting Procedure for this pane to have full throttle? This isn’t a judgement call as you are obviously NOT A STUDENT only a question. I do this on hot starts or flooded situations. Im not too worried about someone getting surprised by full power because those are always amusing to me and the students wide open eyes and jammed on breaks is a good learning experience 😂 I know it was for me. 😂😂 Anyway also wanted to say thanks for this video it was a great demonstration of flow and check lists . I’m going to watch again I wish you were a CFI in my area . Thank you Michael KLZU

[@antonioescobar4183]

Good work Captain, it is very important this video as an instructional for us, we can see that you are a good profesional pilot, but for the next time we would like the next video wiill be subtitled in English because your english is very hard to understand, that is, most of your explanation I do not understand unfortunatelly. Not all viewer who watch your video can understand English, in my case I can read English but do not speak it very well. Good luck captain.

[@BobbyChastain]

Does the Baron have a strong tendency to pull left during the flight? I’m having this trouble in a purchased aircraft in X-Plane 11.

[@olihead7888]

No it Shouldn't as it is a multi engine aircraft ! I would check if your controls are calibrated and check your weather settings to make sure there is no crosswinds set. I hope this helps Oli

[@BobbyChastain]

@@olihead7888Thanks very much for your reply. It turned out to be a software issue with the plane. It pulls less now, but does still pull. I noticed that on videos I watch of Baron pilots, one of the manifold pressure gauges is in more than the other. I also notice that they bank right slightly during rotation and initial climb. Seeing this I assume that there is a bit of adverse yaw even throughout flight.

[@calvinnickel9995]

@ Olihead 78. All propeller driven multi engine aircraft pull to the left unless they are centreline thrust (Cessna 337), have counterrotating props (Piper Seneca), contrarotating props (Tupolev 95), or props that turn the wrong way (DeHavilland Dragon Rapide.. which pulls right). My King Air needs a full boot of right rudder on takeoff and initial climb.. and constant adjustment of the rudder trim for different speeds and configurations if not on autopilot. This is also why most multi engine aircraft have a critical engine. The asymmetric thrust is more acute on the right (or outboard right) engine than the left, making the minimum control speed significantly faster. Many counter rotating twins have a minimum control speed lower than the stall speed.

[@LelleKidd]

2:06 Oil pressure? Fuel pump no2 off?

[@laurentd9980]

Hi, did you set any flaps for takeoff?? I didn't hear any reference to them in the checklists, and as we catch a glimpse of the left wing just before teh takeoff roll and after rotate and gear up , it looks like you had no flaps extended ?! PS - getting a clear glimpse at the checklist around 21:12, I see that apparently the flaps setting for takeoff is indeed 0°... I'm quite surprised...

[@bkrichmd]

You don't need flaps to take off in a Baron.

[@laurentd9980]

Thanks for the answer... I'm a novice student pilot and I thought you normally used flaps in pretty much all planes... So is this a special case, or are there many other piston or prop planes where you don't use flaps for normal takeoff ?

[@rafaeldoria]

It depends on the plane model. I learnt to fly in a model similar to the Cub J3 wich don't even have flaps, so you see it depends on the weight you have on at the time also. In the case od this video, no cargo and only the pilot makes it very light, no flaps needed. If the situation was max takeoff weight and high altitude and temperature I would recommend some flaps though. On some planes you use flaps even if light, though.

[@laurentd9980]

Indeed I should have thought of the J3, I did a test flight on it with an instructor at the time I was deciding on what club to join, trying the Cub, the Cessna 152, and the Robin HR200 and DR400... Finally settled for the latter, the Cub is a nice piece of history, but looked too basic and I didn't like to have to hand-start the prop and a tailwheeler appeared to me as a bit complicated to learn to fly, although opinions vaguely differ on this aspect.. :-) Anywyay, I didn't remember the Cub had no flaps !

[@laurentd9980]

Thanks Evan but indeed we have checklists (and instructors) who insist on using flaps on our DR400's :-) Besides, I am based at LFPL where the runway is quite short, so we do need flaps because the DR400-120 is a bit underpowered :-)

[@cavok76]

Are you missing a green light on right main or is it obscured?

[@krazylevin]

Awesome vid...awesome landing. Much respect my brother.

[@upandaway7643]

The p baron was pressurized, I didn’t know beech had another pressurized model. Was this standard or some after market add on?

[@peterlovett5841]

It was a factory model. It does put an airframe limitation on the aircraft where the non-pressurised model does not. From an imperfect memory total time is limited to 12,000 hours.

[@Sebastianfliegt]

What is the minimum runway lenght that plane needs? Is a 2500ft strip long enough?

[@theflyingstones6840]

Blue line is too fast for a final approach speed. There are some instructors that will say that's what you fly, but they are wrong. I made it a point to say it on the video because a friend had just been at ATP where his instructor said always blue line in case you lose an engine, and then his examiner got on to him for flying too fast on final. Blue line is Vyse, which is a climb speed. If you were to lose an engine on final, just keep flying a normal approach speed and land. And if you have to go around single engine, speed up to blue line.

[@jonathanfriedman8343]

Blue line (Vyse) is not just a "climb speed". It's also the speed at which minimum sink will occur after an engine failure with feathered prop.It's the safest speed to fly on approach until landing is assured. Then, slowing down for to 90 or so in a Baron 58 makes sense.

[@theflyingstones6840]

Jonathan Friedman I disagree but that's cool. In my 15 years and over 10,000 hours, that's how I've done it. Not to mention that's what the poh says. Sure, fly as fast as you want till you get closer, but slow to final approach speed way before landing is assured. When I flew the MD11, if we were single engine, it took about 1000ft of altitude loss to speed back up to a climb out speed, but we still flew at approach speed because that's what is proper. Thanks for the input though.

[@calvinnickel9995]

@ Jonathan Friedman. You don’t want minimum sink on approach. You want to maintain the same sink and just land the damn thing! I talk to new multi engine pilots about what they’d do with an engine failure on final and more often than not it’s CONTROL.. MAX POWER!!... GEAR AND FLAPS UP... etc Yeah.. awesome, now you’ve destabilized an approach and compounded an emergency for which you will still have to set up for a landing and put all that drag out anyways rather than control, power as appropriate, drag considered or adjusted, identify, verify, feather.... secure if there’s time and just land. Most multi engine aircraft approach below blue line. Mine is 20 knots below blueline. Otherwise you get a float fest down the runway and wind up like that Aztec in St Baarts.

[@brianb5594]

I once wanted a Cirrus but now want a Baron 55 instead. Looks like fuel flows are just a tad more than the SR22 running the Baron LOP to get 175K but worth it for two engines.

[@mohshehri]

Nice job

[@LeeJPryer]

Thanks using this in Aerofly

[@GeneralOutdoor99]

Hi :) Don't you forgot to switch to standard altitude during CRZ ? (1013 hPa or 2992psi for US) ?

[@GeneralOutdoor99]

@smf333 Oh okey nice ;)

[@conrad1549]

#2 engine start......fuel pump on........wait to see rise in oil pressure?

[@SR-bh5jd]

Verbal typo!

[@tucmat]

This hotdog missed quite a few things. Not as impressed with him as he is of himself.

[@Mikinct]

is this plane a Baraon 58 TC or just pressurized?

[@sidykane7650]

VERY INSTRUCTIVE VIDEO . THANK YOU.

[@mohammedimam3651]

We are flying together peacefully!

[@UTLakelizard]

Great Video. Glad to fly in this plane now.

[@theflyingstones6840]

David Peek I hope you're enjoying it. It was fun to fly.

[@BaronPilot]

Nice Video. I like your shirt in your other Baron video better! How Bout Them Cowboys! :-) Love that JPI engine cluster. That's on my wish list of upgrades. Did you add that or was it already installed when you got the airplane?

[@theflyingstones6840]

Baron Pilot it was already there when we bought it. We've since sold the plane. Sorry I wasn't wearing a Cowboys shirt in this video, if it helps, I'm wearing one right now. Go Cowboys!!!!

[@ericc7936]

in xplane should i set heading to runway before rotation and then ap once in air?

[@observer1242]

I am not a pilot. But what is the procedure in the event of a loss of cabin pressure? Is there anymore than putting on an oxygen mask?

[@theflyingstones6840]

Allan Haggar Typical procedure for loss of cabin pressure is to don the mask, and get the plane down as quick as possible. Power idle, props forward, and descend at close to red line. Sometimes the checklist will say gear down as well. It just depends on the plane. The main thing is to get the plane to a breathable altitude.

[@gorgly123]

@@theflyingstones6840 Actually it's gear down, approach flaps and 177 knots indicated for a max emergency descent. Depends on what altitude you are at and how fast you need to come down. If you are on fire faster is better.

[@theflyingstones6840]

@@gorgly123 I'll take your word for it. Every plane is different. It's been years since I've been in this plane. And, procedures are different depending on companies.

[@wazzkall725]

so many Monday morning quater backs I am sure 90% of them are flying a rental if that, great job very nice plane I hope some day to own one.

[@hdaviator9181]

So do you rent out the baron or something?

[@theflyingstones6840]

HDaviator This was just a video I made for the baron I had that could help anyone that flew it. It was a corporate aircraft but we sold it a couple of months ago.

[@HondaGoldwingGL1800]

Cool video, but I do not agree with your starting procedures. On a cold engine start there isnt hardly any oil in the bearings and letting the engines get to a high rpm...anything over 1500 is tough on those bearings and other engine components because the oil hasnt circulated yet. I usually advance the throttles about 2 inches after a 2 or 3 pumps and the engines start right up at a lower rpm while the engine makes oil pressure. Speaking of oil pressure...turning on the starboard fuel pump will not make the oil pressure rise...lolol. Also, I would fail a student or pilot doing a bi-annual if they did a run up while taxing to the end. Regardless if there is a run up area or not, you can always find a spot to stop and do the run up without blowing a lot of prop wash on anything behind you. If you are in that big of a hurry...get to the plane earlier. Getting into a rush is a great way to find an issue when you dont need it. Never...NEVER turn off bith fuel pumps at the same time...turn off one and wait 10 to 20 seconds and then turn off the other. This way if you lose an engine, you still have one running to limp somewhere to land. Turning both pumps off at the same time and you lose the engines...you are screwed and you did it to yourself. Most likely the airplane is going to bet bent. And yes...I am a pilot...started at age 16 and now at 72 with 20,000+ hours, ATP rating as well as several type ratings and a double i. Fly safe.

[@theflyingstones6840]

HondaGoldwingGL1800 Well that’s too bad that you’d fail someone for an opinion, but I guess you can spin a failure on whatever you want. As a professional, there shouldn’t be any problem doing a run up on the roll, however, if I were to ever have to do a BFR, I wouldn’t do it either, but I’ve never had a BFR as my recurrent PCs count and I do my airlines SOPs, and we don’t run up a 747. Also, you don’t disagree with my start procedure, you disagree with Beechcraft. That’s all directly out of the POH for the plane. Thanks for the comments though.

[@HondaGoldwingGL1800]

Wouldnt fail someone for an opinion...only the act. Run the engine(s) up and hold the brakes so speed doesnt become an issue. As for Beechcraft...there are a lot of things with them myself and others dont agree with...mainly the starting procedure. They most likely suggest this in order to get you in the shop for engine work at a later time for a spun bearing. Remember, these engines do not have a pre-oiler...but what-ever...your engine and your money. Fly safe.

[@theflyingstones6840]

HondaGoldwingGL1800 It’s not my plane, and my former boss sold it a few years ago. As for not trusting the manufacturer, I’m not smart enough, or dumb enough, to go against the recommendation of the manufacturer. Maybe some day I’ll be there, or I’ll always know to do what is right and not just throw my opinion in there to void a warranty. I don’t fly the small stuff anymore, and was only doing it due to a furlough from my MD11 job. I really don’t have much piston time so I just do what my mechanics, and the poh say. Thanks though.

[@Mr-ne2zu]

Nice video! Wa na na boo!

[@skyforce2132]

I think you forgot to turn off the fuel pump for the right engine

[@Gastel]

You can see @26:55. I dream of flying in a Baron and this satisfied that itch... for a day.

[@joesixpac8710]

Surprised John Goodman had the time to do the voiceover on this video.

[@thecigarcaptain343]

Why do you not fly blue line on final?

[@theflyingstones6840]

Aaron Bates Because that’s way too fast. You’ll float half way down the runway. Blue line is a climb speed. I have heard of some people being taught to fly blue line for landing, but, whoever came up with this is wrong. You’ll see on a checklist that they even have approach speeds, use those.

[@DraGon-cg6ge]

Beechcraft Baron where can i buy on which site?

[@skyforce2132]

Dra Gon Trade-A-Plane or controller

[@scottycatman]

Hey I plan on flying your Baron but I ain't asking to haha

[@nobleequipment1]

Nice, Thanks for the post.

[@anandajesh7368]

Can I fly with You?

[@009__abhrajitnag7]

I use to fly this same exact plane in x plane simulator. Can I fly these in real life?

[@doinjusfine1]

Not a pilot... but seemed like a flight full of fiddling with adjustments... is every flight like that ? Or was this for the video ?

[@bernardanderson7569]

Happy New Year Flying stones

[@johnathanwetherill456]

what is the stupid square glass for on the wind screen for ?

[@MikeHotel29]

its a windshield heater

[@TheAlf61]

Why the rush to turn off the lights ? that is an awful time to add unnecessary chores. Not nitpicking and you are undoubtedly a more experienced pilot but just saying.

[@theflyingstones6840]

TheAlf61 It's a habit from the king air I fly cause those lights need to come off pretty soon after the gear comes up. For me it's just a quick motion that's no different than bringing the gear up, and I don't have to look for them. Some planes lights will stay on in the gear well and that's my main reason for turning them off. In the king air you get an advisory light letting you know they're on in there.

[@TheAlf61]

Perfectly well understand the habit. In the Baron the lights are well cooled and it seemed perfect to leave that chore when you did your flow with the fuel pumps etc. Seemed like a perfect time. Climb performance with the P Baron on one engine is not strong at all and I would be on edge after liftoff to quickly identify a failing engine and feather the prop ASAP.

[@theflyingstones6840]

We sold the plane anyway so I won't worry about it. There's a lot of low time guys flying these things so any tips are good. I fly different than some but that comes from thousands of hours and 16 years of experience, doesn't mean it's right or wrong, just mine and safe for me.

[@cockydelft]

Nice video and iam flying in games :/

[@rickmitchell6735]

I have a feeling this was a very informative video but I don't know. You were walked on by ATC too much to understand what you were saying! I would really like to watch again without the overtakes.

[@NorthSaintPaulNews]

nice 24 Alpha!

[@aztecwarrior1421]

To bad you could silence your radio

[@garypugh1153]

I fly cessna 152 's. Alot of shit to do with a baron 😎

[@calvinnickel9995]

I fly a King Air and to me it’s like flying a 152. Jump in and go. No run up even (maintenance does our daily runups).

[@georgenjama8577]

Sorry to say that is not how you start a baron

[@henryknetsar3677]

Nice video, audio.... well.... bless your heart. I'm no film maker, so I got no answer for ya. Seriously can't hear a word over the radio.

[@mohshehri]

Nice job