Baron VS Cirrus Speeds & Fast Talking Controller

Flying from CRG to PGD we compare the Baron’s speed and fuel burn to a Cirrus SR22 Turbo
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[@jimhuntington8692]

Thanks!... And "Yes", we do look forward to each and every video. Keep 'em coming!

[@BaronPilot]

Thank you!

[@jerem0621]

The four best Flight Channels are Baron Pilot, Niko’s Wings, Aviation 101, and 310 Flyer.... honorable mentions are Flight Chops, Mojo Grip, and Malibu Flyer. Malibu Flyer keeps getting better with the camera work The flight channel with the most potential is Glenn Hancock and his beautiful Beech 18 videos. The Best Aviation News Channel is Blancolirio...Juan is great. Love the content Baron Pilot. Keep it up!

[@SynMonger]

No love for Taking Off and their In the Hangar series?

[@jerem0621]

SynMonger ohh, I don’t know about them...I’ll have to check them out.

[@Parr4theCourse]

I agree Malibu Flyer is growing, his camera work is 1st rate and the icing on the cake; Kory is as solid as they come!!!

[@chrisbowpiloto]

I would love to hear your feedback on mine. I am nowhere near making that list, but I am trying to improve

[@Parr4theCourse]

ChrisBow Piloto I’m sure this was meant for Jeremiah, but it popped up on my feed, we all start somewhere and build from there. Don’t mimic others, sure some ideas, camera set-up, etc. is a given. But do what makes you happy and do it they way you’re happy doing it, your passion will show through. Like the big-boys, you can tell they are having a blast first, the cameras are just there to chronicle them having a blast. You’ll appeal to a niche/void others may not be filling. That’s when you’ll grow..if you hit an a magic formula let me know too, sometimes its as simply as timing!!! Good luck and oh pull you camera angle back some, you’re too close, in my humble opinion, fine for a second/third camera angle for a short segment...GOOD LUCK!

[@jtthill5475]

Your popularity is well deserved. Nice that the towers and other controllers recognize you. Nice flight. Thanks for sharing

[@BaronPilot]

Thank you. 😊

[@chrisfowler6278]

The controllers are CRG are good people. They manage a lot of activity there. Two big flight schools, two medium flight schools, a charter service, and numerous GA aircraft not to mention the JSO airhawks. Those guys really make it happen, and Im proud to say that's my home airport because of them! Great video, keep up the good work.

[@tompinnef6331]

Yes we enjoy each and every video. Thank you for sharing your flight. Sure looks warm down there. I'll be happy to send you some of this 'nice' cold weather we are having. LOL Take care Spin

[@BaronPilot]

As much as I would love to take away some of that cold, we don’t want it down here! 😂

[@tompinnef6331]

@@BaronPilot I don't blame you. We don't really 'want' it either. Again thank you for the video's. Nice to be able to watch them will being my wife's care giver.

[@BaronPilot]

Tom Pinnef I hope your wife is doing well and I hope my videos are a good distraction.

[@DOMINICAAVIATION]

That's some stunning stuff @8:06👍

[@williamchristian8705]

I really enjoy your channel. In the 70s my friend and I often flew out of Fullerton,California. We were 18 and he I guess rented a plane. I was scared to beyond belief at first. But gradually was comfortable. I sometimes wish I’d gotten my pilot license back then. He ended up being a commercial pilot.

[@BaronPilot]

I’m glad I bring back good memories. It is t too late to get you license!

[@jfedermesser]

Awesome video, thanks for taking us along for a ride... And the sunset was amazing!!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@prestonmiller9552]

Always a pleasure flying with you. A point well taken about doing some hand flying every so often instead of just always flipping on the AP. It's a good idea to keep those flying skills sharp and ready just in case they are needed when you least expect it. Thanks for your efforts. I do spread the word every chance I get.

[@BaronPilot]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[@chrisc161]

Love the Channel. Keep it up buddy. Thank you for taking the time and effort to produce these videos.

[@BaronPilot]

My pleasure. Thank you for taking the time to watch.

[@airkingflyer3515]

Just subscribed BP, longtime viewer here as well. Keep up the great videos sir.

[@superskullmaster]

Michael Rybinski if you are a long time viewer why did you JUST NOW subscribe?

[@BaronPilot]

Thank you for subscribing. I am happy I was able to earn your support. 👍🏼

[@robertmaza4272]

Beautiful flight!!! Loved the sound of the engines when you took off along with the gear going up! Sounded like I was in the right seat! Can't wait to see Kim with the yoke in her hands! As everyone else has said, Thank You for taking the time to make these videos and Thank You for taking us along!!!!

[@BaronPilot]

Thank you for watching. I too look forward to her learning to fly.

[@bsinger339]

"I'm somewhere between P1D and Aviation101 speeds and 'where the channel fits'". I know this is in good fun, and in that light, I have to say Josh does have 175k followers....keep the content coming!

[@BaronPilot]

The comment had nothing to do with followers or content or quality. It was a speed and aircraft type reference.

[@Robert-gx6jk]

Hey Baron pilot I am a retired air traffic controller from JAX ARTCC AND A PILOT I would love to meet you or have a great ride but mainly just to meet you. Take care and keep the blue side. Up!

[@BaronPilot]

Good chance we’ve talked on the radio. Follow my Instagram for when I host my next meetup.

[@michaelstern1945]

Thanks for sharing your adventures watching here from cooool Eagle Idaho. Looking forward seeing Kim helping you out. When is she taking over The radio work.

[@flyingsic]

michael stern thanks for watching! I do it here and there, were working on a video that I take over the whole thing. Almost. 😂😉

[@michaelstern1945]

Flying SIC will be watching.

[@kutzy62]

I love dusk and night landings. Noticed your nice landing too!

[@tedshropshire1739]

Absolutely. We love your video's and try to watch them the evening they come out. Thanks for your editing and production. Always Good. !!

[@BaronPilot]

Thank you.

[@danawalker55]

Another great video, BP! Awesome sunset too! Interesting info on speed/ fuel between Av. 101 and P1D. Bet P1D had some of your fuel economy. Then you greased the strip! Great flight!

[@jackvisser]

TY for another Great Video

[@BaronPilot]

Thank you for continuing to watch.

[@gervers]

Great flight! Awesome landing!!!!! Smooth and right on the centre line!

[@BaronPilot]

Thank you

[@nickb.5351]

Nice video! I enjoy your channel, it's very real and applicable!

[@johnkeyes630]

Nice Baron....I am new to you, but very enjoyable...Found out about you thru PD1...

[@superskullmaster]

John Keyes doesn’t matter how you got here, just subscribe and enjoy the show.

[@johnkeyes630]

@@superskullmaster I did....

[@BaronPilot]

Welcome to the channel and thank you for subscribing.

[@formerblueberet5621]

Good videos as always between you and the PD1 two of my favorite channels I am Canadian with Finnish roots I did ferry flying in U.S Loved it down there ATC is second to none All the best from the great white north ! I have Canadian and U.S CPL but got into game too late and never made it to Commercial Aviation

[@BaronPilot]

Thank you for your kind words. 😊

[@lewishiggins168]

Was a little worried when I saw the news about a Baron crash in Ocala area. Glad you are OK

[@BaronPilot]

That was sad news. That airplane was from my airport too.

[@billnicholson2470]

Great flight Chris. Yea that controller needs a auto throttle for speed control. Nice sunset too.

[@Xpyburnt_ndz]

Gr8 flight Kris! Thnx for the ride along!

[@mattcollins4550]

Your confidence boost after training was noticeable.

[@Anonymous99997]

I love the way you reference the other youtubers.

[@BaronPilot]

Thanks. We are all friends and one big family with the same goals, to promote Aviation.

[@Spec62]

Yep yep. . .anyone flying in Florida provides for a very appealing experience.

[@jerryrounds8586]

Consistently excellent videos. Thanks Baron Pilot

[@donemory7459]

Chris great VID as always! Hopefully you can post some IFR trips with some approaches in the future. I am always learning! Thanks. 🙂 Don

[@SmittySmithsonite]

Interesting stuff with the fuel burn. How many HP are those engines capable of, each? I'm guessing your combined HP has to be at or more than 600. That's some power right there! 😎 Congrats on the 25 hour milestone, too. Engines are broken in now. Nice! 👍 Do you ever send a used oil sample to a lab to see how things are doing in there? I did that with my truck for a while - now that I know my engine is failing back when it had 80k on the clock, I don't bother anymore. 😂 Appreciate your efforts in bringing us weekly vids. 👍 Thanks, Kris! 🍻

[@BaronPilot]

I only have 260HP a side. So 520HP combined. It works out to be a fair trade off of power and fuel burn. I haven’t sent my oil out on my old engines as I didn’t have a base line nor did I want to know. 🙊 now with new engines I will.

[@SmittySmithsonite]

@@BaronPilot - Still, 520 is nothing to sneeze at. Explains your quick takeoff roll. 😎 Yeah, I don't blame you with the old engines, lol - that's where I'm at with my truck - a 2007, a little over 2k hours / 99k miles now. Found some disturbing wear metals around 80k miles, so after 3 samples, I've got all I need to know. Going to run it ... until it don't. 😂 Thanks for the reply, Kris. 🍻

[@michaelmercer8215]

awesome views of instruments, very helpful for Pilot in training

[@andrewbainton4139]

Loved the video as I usually do. Nice job! also it was great for you to remind Pilots that they are the final authority when it comes to the safety of their flight, even when under positive control. I'm sure there are many pilots a bit intimidated by controllers. The fast-talking controller could be very intimidating for example, not to mention hard to understand. Maybe he is relatively new and needs to find his cadence with verbal instructions. Every Flight is a learning experience! keep your videos coming Thank you again!

[@BaronPilot]

Thanks. I learn something from every flight and even more when I go back and edit them.

[@CharleyAlphaAviation]

Our Navajo is about the same speed, but we are higher fuel burn. 42-43 gallons. But we have AC :) always a trade-off with something. Keep up the good work.

[@BaronPilot]

Sometimes I would take 42 GPH if it meant AC! 😂😎

[@alanstrauss7997]

Cirrus 22T sweet spot is not 9K msl. It shines in the mid-high teens where TAS is higher and tail winds can generate higher ground speeds.

[@BaronPilot]

No matter where he flies I will still be envious of his fuel burn. 🙊

[@trentgodwin6320]

JAX controllers are great. Aloha Bob stands out but, there is another guy that greets you with "Welcome Home" when you check into to his sector. Always helpful folks.

[@BaronPilot]

I love when my tower says that. It’s a great feeling.

[@alishel5671]

Great vid thanks for posting

[@dickmoore7341]

Thought I was going to see that landing where the wheels hit the tarmac but you cut to the yolk again....lol Looked like a great night for a flight aside from the front you had to dodge but that just makes it more interesting right? Sure makes for a great view!!! Thanks for the ride along!!!

[@BaronPilot]

Haha I knew you would. This video was edited before your request 😉

[@dickmoore7341]

@@BaronPilot When you do it say that guy nagging me from Michigan wants to see the wheels on touchdown so here it is and you know I'll get a laugh out of that......I'll be watching ;-)

[@GeraldLaumeyer]

Thanks for another great entertaining video

[@BaronPilot]

Thank you for watching

[@dwightolsen2688]

I flew a B55 in the 70’s. Wish I’d had your panel😬

[@BaronPilot]

The modern technology makes a world of difference.

[@pdutube]

NDB, ADF, Loran? Where have all the good times gone!

[@bkrichmd]

I missed your engine change. I'm assuming you put in a 550? Those numbers sound ROP, if you ran LOP you'd get 180-185 TAS at about 20-23 GPH. Of course your useful load is much much higher. But Niko can go higher with Turbo Charged, except he's on O2. It's all a give and take, but I'd say 190 TAS is a nice haul for the Baron considering what you can take.

[@jeffhendershott5205]

Great video as always did you happen to catch the Airshow last weekend?

[@bondisteve3617]

Loved it...thanks.

[@BaronPilot]

Thanks for watching.

[@MrGoldman9]

Ohhhh how much o like your videos and congratulation for the new engine can you please make a video about how much these cost and the operation cost? I’m interesting to buy same airplane we need more details regarding the engines and maintenance you do and can you tell us which kind of training you have been done the one you mentioned in the video by the way I love the meaning of (Baron) I have been with this for long time ago. Looking forward to is to meet with you in person...God bless you good luck

[@privatepilotlife1770]

Thank you! Another great Vid! ;)

[@aitke12]

OMG another video!! YESSSSSSSSSSS🕺💃🕺💃🕺💃🕺💃🕺💃🕺💃🕺💃

[@BaronPilot]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@buldingm]

nice flight ;)

[@TeemarkConvair]

sunset,,the magic time

[@garybailey1883]

Another great video, but let's be honest. I come here just as much to see Kim!

[@BaronPilot]

You and everyone else. Lol

[@flyingsic]

Gary Bailey I’ll be back soon 😉

[@greghudson3184]

Flying SIC of

[@mikeryan6277]

Just subscribed ( should have some time ago ) it never gets old flying around Florida does it ?

[@danielmills-thysen9807]

6:50 quite the burn on Aviation101

[@BaronPilot]

Wasn’t a burn. I was making a speed/channel comparison. We all bring something different to KZbin. Which is great for everyone.

[@joebloggs8785]

The fuel burn may not be a huge amount higher, but the maintenance cost definitely is! i.e. Two new engines or rebuilds will approach 2x the cost.

[@BaronPilot]

Thanks for the reminder 😜😂

[@par5eagles]

great video as always. A question: it looks like you drop your power from WOT to a lower power setting on climb out, is that correct? Is that something particular to the engines in your baron? I've seen a lot of other YT pilots keeping the throttles full forward for cooling, would love to hear your thoughts on that.

[@BaronPilot]

The POH calls for climb power to be 25”/2500RPM. So that is what I set it at after the initial 1000’

[@paulhagerty2892]

You should offer 8×10 autographed photos in your merch store

[@BaronPilot]

Haha that might work if it’s a picture of Kim. 🙊😉😂

[@garybailey2429]

Yeah!!!!

[@alexburkholder5368]

Hey great video! Do you ever give rides?Lol

[@donjones7544]

Do you perform your own oil changes? I started doing mine, at 30 hours, under the supervision of my mechanic when I retired. I enjoy getting up-close with my plane. This February will be my third owner assisted annual. It doesn't save a lot of money because I'm doing minor tasks, but I'm learning a lot about the my Debonair. Blue Skies!

[@gasfiltered]

Oil changes are one of the many maintenance items an owner/operator can do without any form of supervision, just log it in the engine logbook.

[@sksupply]

Ehhhh I don't know. With you hand flying the entire flight I think that trumps Premier 1 Driver's TAS. 😁

[@BaronPilot]

Haha. If only 😂

[@skiprussell8153]

Where is Kim? Miss seeing her fly with you. Take care buddy!

[@BaronPilot]

Plenty more of Kim to come.

[@skiprussell8153]

@@BaronPilot Tks buddy

[@flyingsic]

Skip Russell have to build up the suspense and keep ‘em wanting more! ❤️

[@skiprussell8153]

@@flyingsic Ok, sounds good for me. You and Chris need to fly out to California, flight plan to KMOD and stay awhile. Take young lady,

[@sinca3]

Great video and commentary, but not really an accurate/fair comparison of the two aircraft in the title. The SR22T doesn't really start coming into its element until above 10,000'. The NA SR22 is faster below 10k than the 22T. Somewhere around 15k the Cirrus is in the 190's and as it climbs so does that TAS.

[@BaronPilot]

Thank you. It wasn’t really meant to be a one is better than another comparison. It was more of just a general comparison. Clearly even at lower altitudes the cirrus has an advantage and it has a lower fuel burn. Obviously at higher altitude’s it’s turbo engines gain efficiency for an even greater advantage. Of course there is always the argument of payload passengers and the value of the second engine. But like everything in aviation, there are trade-offs for everything.

[@muzikman183]

Be sure to get 310 Pilot's true airspeed and fuel burn too lol

[@BaronPilot]

Kevin and I need to do a video together. When we do, I’m sure we will do a comparison for everyone. I can’t image the two airplanes are that far off in any category.

[@kevinroche3967]

Is this your first flight since getting your plane fixed? Missed your video’s

[@BaronPilot]

No. This flight was earlier.

[@ozziepilot2899]

Did I see the control lock in place during the taxi ? :)

[@BaronPilot]

No. I use the sign portion of the lock to hold the yoke back so the camera gets a better shot of the GPS. It’s not locked and would fall to the ground if I pulled back on the yoke.

[@haywardsteve]

Whens Kim starting her course in Flying the plane so she can get her licence

[@BaronPilot]

We have talked about it. TBD

[@sky-11]

I Cant rap my head around as to what ATC thinks there accomplishing talking 1000k MPH comeon slow it down guys your there to help us not confuse us.The controller in Punta Gorda is the guy you speedsters need to role model after.

[@ronvaliant9337]

Love your videos. I can't track you on flight aware. Just curious if that's intentional?

[@BaronPilot]

Unfortunately I have blocked my tail number.

[@ronvaliant9337]

@@BaronPilot I understand. Just curious.

[@jamesdernbach7205]

Where do you do your training?

[@mikekremski496]

I’m coming down to Vero Beach in Dec for recurrent training in my Meridian then flying over to Punta Gorda for several days. What FBO do you recommend? Hanger availability?

[@BaronPilot]

Only one FBO at PGD. Idk what they do for hangers. I don’t think they have hanger space.

[@weatherman9]

Mike Krem

[@bernardanderson7569]

Who did the Windows on your Baron? Nice tinted with mirror Glazed

[@invertedconcepts6165]

Looks like Jet Shades. They’re awesome!

[@RickMarbury4]

How do you compare with 310 Pilot? Love his Cessna 310.

[@BaronPilot]

Both flying light GA piston twins.... I’d say about the same 😉

[@rnordquest]

What did you learn that suddenly made hand flying so much easier?

[@BaronPilot]

It’s not that I learned anything new. It’s just after spending 3 days hand flying the sim in night IFR with every failure possible the real thing becomes nothing.

[@rnordquest]

@@BaronPilot The goal of every IFR pilot, the flying is nothing. How relaxed and in command you were was obvious.

[@ryans.5998]

What about Steveo? I wonder what kind of performance he gets.

[@BaronPilot]

He is faster then me and burns more fuel. But he’s not as fast as P1D and CitationMax.

[@ColdCanuck50]

ATC yammering away at double the normal speed...I hope he slows down in the case of an emergency, sheeesh.

[@-AV8R-]

That fast talking Craig controller has been there for a while. His fast cadence is a potential safety hazard that could have very serious consequences. I'm surprised that he's still doing this after what I'm sure are many complaints.

[@marksbiglife6094]

Do they do oil analysis when you do the initial new engine oil change?

[@BaronPilot]

It’s up to each owner if they want to have the oil analysis.

[@marksbiglife6094]

Baron Pilot Roger that. I would. At least the first change or two.

[@NikosWings]

Hey buddy nice video but you know we Cirrus SR22 Turbo guys don’t fly at 9,000 feet, we go higher and get more low 200, lol 😂 well on a good day anyway...

[@BaronPilot]

Hey you already have better fuel burn. If we compare higher altitudes you will just make me feel even worse. 🙊

[@mhilderbrand7693]

Baron Pilot just a causal observation after watching Niko's latest. I bet his car also burns less gas!

[@BaronPilot]

I think two of his cars combined burns less then mine. 😂😎

[@superskullmaster]

On a future video you should do a inset of the GPS for the whole video.

[@BaronPilot]

I just worry how small it will appear for those who watch on their cellphone.

[@Jaxav8or]

You get used to that controller at CRG

[@BaronPilot]

That’s good for regulars but he should remember not everyone is a regular there.

[@jamesjobe5807]

310pilot would be more compatible

[@armandovianaavo6518]

Only fast hehhe , merci for tak'us in

[@BaronPilot]

Thanks for coming along.

[@theoneandonlybluesky]

Just where is Kim? You're a handsome guy, but hey!

[@flyingsic]

Blue Sky have to build up the suspense! We don’t want to seem like I’m taking over the channel, some people still would rather see just him fly ❤️😁

[@loremaable]

Hi, please tell me why does the manifold pressure increases upon descent ?

[@BitwiseMobile]

Just throwing it out there because I don't really know, so it's somewhat of SWAG, but atmospheric pressure?

[@johnopalko5223]

@@BitwiseMobile That's it exactly. Atmospheric pressure increases as you descend and your MP increases with it. Your MP gauge measures absolute pressure and is calibrated in inches of mercury.

[@willfly4beer98]

MP increases as you descend because the engine can put out more power at the same throttle setting with the more dense air. I don’t believe it’s acting like an altimeter as John suggested.

[@loremaable]

@@willfly4beer98 Thanks for the reply, Yes I forgot the parameter of air density. So this is why in cold countries at the same level takeoffs are shorter than in a tropical country like where I live on Reunion island. My son who took his first flying lessons here and who is in an aviation school in Canada noticed in too while flying a Cessna 152 whereas here he flew on a Cessne 172 , he could notice the climb rate difference too.

[@Winglets68]

Haha Bill talks super fast. Good guy just over the student pilots being dumb.

[@kylegoodman5196]

LOL we all know Steveo1Kinevo has the best true airspeeds XD.

[@BaronPilot]

I’m sure P1D and CitationMax would agree with that statement. 😂😂😂

[@kylegoodman5196]

@@BaronPilot I would actually imagine in some instances Steveo is faster than they are 🤣

[@BaronPilot]

Maybe from dark cockpit to engine start, since he only has one to start! 😂 other then that, I can’t think of a single one.

[@kylegoodman5196]

@@BaronPilot 🤣. On a positive, I just completed my first flight in a DA42 and am hoping to follow that up with a 55 Baron soon!

[@BaronPilot]

Awesome. How was it? I flew one once when they first came out. It was a nice airplane. The Baron will have a different feel.