barrel stove part 3

how to heat a garage with a wood stove with out the danger of fire

[@uarbor70]

What a very good idea. What I would suggest is that you extend the air inlet side inside the garage down toward the floor so you're sucking up the coldest air in the garage. Also you definitely want to put a screen over the inlet so that whatever gets sucked in there doesn't come flying back out the other side on fire. Like leaves or a moth or whatever

[@ronstickle4694]

Good ideas!!

[@ChrisWhitley-tx1oz]

@@ronstickle4694 well I would have both hot and cold vented close to the floor. I would probably put a slight turn away from your warm air pipe. Maybe 30 degrees from the warm which would still give you good draw from the room. My idea on the warm is that warm air rises so theoretically that you would want it as close to the floor as you get it. As you mentioned you don’t want to heat the rafters. In the future depending on the volume of heat you are pushing you could run a pipe up against the wall with vents in it. Just saying.

[@put_istine]

My friend made something like this without fan and heats entire house with 2 floors. The suction pipe is at the lowest part of the furnace, and the outlet pipe is at the highest part (similiar as yours, just the suction pipe is outside). The furnace is built right next to the house, and there is a pipe system that branches and leads to all the rooms in the house. There are no fans, but the heat naturally passes through the pipes and heats up all the rooms very quickly (even when it's very cold outside). The stove is lit every 6-8 hours, and it heats up all night and the fire is still smoldering in the morning.

[@ronstickle4694]

sounds great!

[@witengineer6377]

Great video thanks for posting! I am working on something like this because I can not and do not want an open flame inside my house. Even if this system is not 100% efficient I would like to get some extra heat with the free wood I can burn.

[@ronstickle4694]

yes thank you and let me know if you come up with a idea. This is what it is all about improve other ideas!

[@davidhoekje7842]

A lot of good thoughts in that design. It occurs to me that if it proves out you might try to keep some of the heat that is lost through the barrel walls. Either surround it in stone or layer on some kind of insulation. It's great keeping the mess and danger out of the work space.

[@ronstickle4694]

yes it really could use insulation! thanks for your ideas!

[@ChrisWhitley-tx1oz]

I just seen when I was looking for this that they do have a wrap thing for barrel stoves now.

[@JewlofTheNile914]

Hey dude I love your dog he,s beautiful,he wants to be in the video too 😄..awesome video thanks for giving me knowledge on the barrel stove I,m working on installing one in my she shed.God bless u.

[@ronstickle4694]

Thank you so much And thanks for watching!

[@chrisask2065]

That is correct, your steel heat exchanger inside firebox will be positive pressure. You should have no issues with leakage/ carbon monoxide entering as long at you don’t lose power to fan

[@JustinBrown-de5xc]

can you post or email some pics of how you did the waste oil setup?

[@jonathanbuford1793]

Yes seal ceiling and fan to knock down trapped heat I used old chicken house insulation 1and5/8 thick 4x23 for around 28 dollars on market place and that worked great for me o and 72 cases of caulk get air tight and if need be crack a window depending on I need fresh air so I need as insulated and caulked as I can get but I want to choose where and when I choose to let some inside

[@ExploringCabinsandMines]

My idea exactly !! I don't want fire in my shop.

[@sphillips6357]

Great innovation! I'm subscribed. What were the major drawbacks from your barrel in a barrel setup? Did the inner barrel ever burn through? That's the one I plan to replicate, with a few minor improvements.

[@ronstickle4694]

hi the biggest drawback is heat loss to the outside air! i never used it long enough to ever burn out the inside barrel i have new plans for a better design and have not started it yet. I hope you film your design and post and let me know! thanks for the question!

[@eby6114]

I like your idea, but any reason why you prefer this method over a burn barrel inside a heat exchanger? Or what are your thoughts on the exhaust going into the garage but encased in mud. Last thought, small enclosure for barrel in garage but access for it is outside. Sorry I live in Florida and the subject is fascinating. I'm from the north but never dabbled in wood burning

[@ronstickle4694]

thanks for your comment! This is an experiment on going..I try to come up with new ideas not done before here with a ton of the same content ..As i said in the vid i don't want an active fire inside because of safety reasons! I know it is a huge wast of heat and had a new idea of cutting a round hole in the in the building putting the stove in backwards into the pole barn so most of it stick into the building but feed the fire from outside so the fire end is not inside. I just don't want to do it yet because i don't want to cut a hole in it as of yet. If i spent a lot of time in there i would do it!

[@toddtyler4330]

Hey great idea I made one and works well. My question is are you circulating hot air in the shop with any fans or just naturally with the intake. I find it’s very warm where heat comes in but not throughout the garage. Fans seem to cool off the air before it moves around.

[@ronstickle4694]

i had the same findings and then preheated the pole barn first with a diesel salamander blast heater all the objects in there would warm up and pull less heat away from the air when i heat with fire. I f it is really cold out a may run the salamander intermittently for a quick boost!

[@ajsimpson1981]

I enjoyed your burner videos and I subscribed

[@ronstickle4694]

thank you so much!!!

[@PainterD54]

I would cut half of that cross tube weld the two long tubes closer together (around 4") so you capture more of the heat from the flame and get hotter air to the building making it more efficient.

[@warpighammer3760]

I did something similar.fear of fire was my motivation . But it works well I like your idea also.

[@ronstickle4694]

thank you!

[@danybeaupre5436]

Did you get any smoke from the barrel? How man cfm is the blower?

[@gabbermaikel]

you might have tought about this, but why not put the burning unit inside a water filled chamber? Or coolant because it is outside and you dont want it to freeze when the heater is off. That way you could use some central heating radiators inside your shop and make it much more efficient.

[@ronstickle4694]

i did think of it and saw a few ideas maybe i will do one like that sometime..Thanks for the comments!

[@ROTAXD]

If you used insulated (chimney pipe) instead of the flexible dryer hose, it'd be much more efficient. Plugging up the holes around the heat tubes & flange would also help.

[@ronstickle4694]

agree there are a lot of improvements that can be done.thanks for watching!

[@luedog8385]

I have an even better idea just wear a jacket. or if you insist on having a heater. i have the best most efficient idea ever and it doesn't take electricity. Cut a hole in your wall stick the stove into the hole backwards so the fire opening is out side. seal up the wall high temp silicone you can figure it out. then you get most of the heat without the risk of the flame.

[@Mike-su8si]

But i can't afford that straight piping some i have i got from the trash and use as the chimney pipe because its thick rusty metal Im gonna use the cheap dryer vent crap for my heater piping and wrap it with installation

[@jonathanbuford1793]

Build a room with tile board around what you have and notch stove flew pipe save a fair amount of heat just make sure you run fresh air to your barrel at bottom I’m wiring metal fence post’s and fan to blow the pipes lightly to circulate

[@DJmalo11]

Can i use Black steel pipe ? and will it be safe?

[@TheMowerGuy]

What size pipe did u use and how long has the pipe lasted and suggestions on building one

[@ronstickle4694]

I think it is 4" steel pipe and thick so it wont melt! build it like mine or better!

[@sonofrobert]

Like your can do attitude and creativity. Cheers

[@bluescoins1199]

That is an interesting idea, upgrading the tubes would help a lot with lost of heat,

[@ronstickle4694]

it sure would! thanks for watching!

[@greggruda7072]

Just stumbled across this video and love the idea. What are the measurements on your heat exchanger? I know it is 4 inch pipe just was wondering the other measurements of the pipe

[@ronstickle4694]

Thanks! I forgot what the measurements are but I figure it was about 4 foot tall by 20 inches wide for the heat exchanger!

[@greggruda7072]

@@ronstickle4694 how is it holding up keeping the garage warm? Any update videos?

[@ronstickle4694]

@@greggruda7072 I actually gave this to a friend that had a well insulated garage and he loves it. Mine was not insulated and a big waste of heat! It took a few hours to get the full heat going only to be in there for a short time!

[@dogdazetravellergarrett1367]

Good job....... Simple efficient exchange heat.😎👍

[@cameracamera1319]

EPA approved im sure. I like it. Thanks for video. take care.

[@ronstickle4694]

What is the EPA lol... Thanks!

[@matthewtreyyy]

Hey I have a question, how does the smoke not go into the room? I’m wanting to build one but need to tips

[@benredding7080]

The chimney/exhaust pipe goes up. The two going inside are sealed (mostly), you'd know this if you watched the video.

[@JustinBrown-de5xc]

If I plumbed this into my existing air handler to be distributed through my house do you think if would add enough heat, or cool down too quickly?

[@ronstickle4694]

i think it wouldn't work well. between the barrel and the pipes outside there is much heat lost already . if the stove was inside your house then hooked in to your system it might work!

[@JustinBrown-de5xc]

I had thought about heat loss and planned on using insulated ducting encased in flexible steel while outside. May just run it to a single duct centrally in the house

[@ronstickle4694]

sounds good there are a ton of improvements that can be done to this idea!

[@Huntinherrington1]

What kind of fan are you using. Could you put a link to one?

[@ronstickle4694]

this is a quick search i did on ebay ..its where i found mine www.ebay.com/itm/4-6-8-Inline-Duct-Fan-Hydroponics-Exhaust-Cooling-Fan-Blower-Strong-CFM-New-/132252899633?var=&hash=item1ecae31931:m:meNzxR_zMgTMf3S3Klud-Zw

[@richarddowner4292]

why did you not do a zig zag heat pipe? that would = more heat transfer? even a ladder type would transfer more heat. there is a lot of wasted heat with the u shaped system you got there.. thumbs upped your vid. thanks for your time..

[@ronstickle4694]

good points!! but I didn't want it to get to hot because my plan was to use it for a wood burning dryer project later that I did another video on.. thanks for the comments!!

[@seawol3]

ciao ...How many hours of autonomy with full load?

[@ronstickle4694]

if you mean how many hours will it burn with a full load of wood in not sure because i keep topping it off about every 1/2 hour and i can turn on the waste oil as well! thanks

[@TheMowerGuy]

How Well Has This Design Worked Out How Well Does It Heat How Long Did The Pipe that when in the Fire Last Before You Had To Replace it

[@ronstickle4694]

ok heats well the only problem is this is building is metal with no insulation /the pipe inside is thick steel and i have not replaced it...thanks

[@alanr4263]

Samething like u gases in my Garage.I have a wood burning stove I wanna put it outside & have it heat inside garage.

[@Reloadeez]

It works but not very efficient. Build a small metal framed tin shed around the stove with insulation. Then have your supply and cold air ducts run into the small shed. You can also use a thermostat in your shop to control the blower

[@ronstickle4694]

agree not efficient if wood was not free it would be a total waste! i have a new idea in the works that will be very efficient. thanks for the comment!

[@Reloadeez]

Ron Stickle there's more then one way to skin a cat.

[@ronstickle4694]

yes thats what it is all about we learn from each other! Thomas Edison made made many filaments before he perfected the light bulb!

[@davidleblanc584]

Where did you get the pipe? Is that 4 inch

[@randomnamehererandoname1727]

you could build a cinderblock enclosure painted inside with insulating paint. metal roof. pour dry sand in the gaps of the cinderblock as you make the walls. use all metal door. install grill range wick activated fire suppressors. would solve the efficiency problems inherent to system being outside and also be even safer. sorta like an outdoor boiler room. doing something similar

[@mitchellkuczynski2931]

Did u end up with a build ?

[@randomnamehererandoname1727]

@@mitchellkuczynski2931 havent gotten a chance. building a homestead from the ground up. ended up getting a $600 custom made woodstove called the woodsman xl. the guy who makes them posts build vids on here. can be purchased via etsy, ebay, amazon, etc.

[@Photostudioww]

Where did u get the window metal on the plywood.

[@ronstickle4694]

i cut the plywood to size of the lower half of the window and made the metal parts out of old aluminum signs to keep the heat off the wood in case it gets to hot.

[@Mike-ub1tc]

Idea maybe make stand for stove to bring up 3 to 4 ft no more bending over to fill with wood

[@ronstickle4694]

i was thinking about that to shorten the pipes but may put around the back and make 2 holes in the metal! thanks for the comment!

[@davidszafraniec5929]

ron liked your set up ! i have a question how did you support the pipe heat exchanger on the loop end ? thank you. got 2 barrels dropped off here today been to ebay looking at blowers. rounding up parts getting ready to build.

[@ronstickle4694]

hi David..if i remember correctly i just made iron legs to hold up the loop end..i may have welded them to the heat exchanger because the whole front comes off so i can put the thing in or take it out.. thanks so much for watching!

[@davidszafraniec5929]

thank you for the quick reply i also watched your other videos as well very informative ! sounds good on the legs i also have the barrels with bolt ring on one end. thank you ron !

[@ronstickle4694]

thank you please let no how your project goes! we all learn from each other!

[@davidszafraniec5929]

will be a pleasure and if i come up with any helpful hints will be glad to pass them along as well. i live in sw corner of penna winters get brutal.

[@ABell676]

Real smart. I like

[@ronstickle4694]

thanks got a better one on the way

[@tommybrackett5519]

If you could curve that around where you have more pipe wouldn't it blow even hotter?

[@kevinkavanagh2041]

Good design

[@mattseymour8637]

Looks good. Good idea with using the hot air pumped into the garage. How hot in the garage does it get?

[@ronstickle4694]

works well however this steel garage is just a tin box and heat escapes as fast as you make it...it really needs insulation to hold the heat in!

[@DBBMed]

Ok, so where do you find steel pipe like that?

[@ronstickle4694]

It was old water pipe I found at work.

[@user-ij7ow2ti8k]

Insulate those pipes going into the garage

[@tommybrackett5519]

Why not put the whole rig in the garage except the stove pipe that would run out of course, way more heat that way, you wouldn't need all the extra flex tubing.

[@ronstickle4694]

Working with cars and gas I didn't want a flame inside the building. Or at least a fire that you can't put out quick like a jet style heater. Thanks for the question.

[@Weldin810]

I believe you are wrong when you said you dont need to leak test. You are creating air flow through the tube, if there are any holes in the pipe it will draw fumes in via a venturi effect.

[@benredding7080]

Venturi uses vacuum. His pipe is under pressure.

[@fireinside1984]

That dog fucking loves you :)

[@ronstickle4694]

he sure does lol!

[@mattseymour8637]

Thats not so good. Sure you will get some insulation sorted. My shed is good for keeping the heat. Have a 11kw stove in mine

[@joenolen9421]

EPA will not let us use old oil to heat with big fine.

[@theobscurity9392]

Then don't let them catch ya haha! The government doesn't need to tell us what we can or can't do for ourselves.

[@tctime]

Just curious does it smoke like hell when you put it out and where does the smoke go?

[@ronstickle4694]

it burns out when the wood is finished burning and no smoke enters the heat exchange tubing it just gets the air going through hot... smoke goes up the chimney ..thanks for asking!!

[@tctime]

Okay I totally get it now you should make it make wood gas then it would be KZbin Worthy I'm sorry I thought you made something way cooler than what you did have a good one

[@sentradynamics8889]

TC time "wood gas" is used to run a combustion engine (such as a generator) and is waaaaay more complicated than a simple wood stove. Obviously this guy isn't trying to run any engines from this setup lol do some research before you start knocking other peoples awesome projects. It's actually pretty bad ass

[@tctime]

sentradynamics oh aren't you very so smart how come the one I made mixed with gas and just makes everything real hot yeah you can run pretty much anything off of it if you learn how to get it into some kind of pressurized container I use my air compressor yeah I know that sounds stupid but it works so yeah I'm sure that you're real smart and all that good stuff so you have a good day

[@tctime]

Oh yeah and I forgot to tell you you win troll...l you win

[@bud122469]

I like your simple design! I have an idea to put a smaller barrel inside of a 55 gal barrel and wrap maybe 2” or 2 1/2” exhaust flex pipe between the barrels with sand covering the flex pipe and blow the heated air into my house....I’ll build an insulated shack around the barrel to minimize the heat loss... your thoughts on my idea? Seem feasible to you?

[@ronstickle4694]

Sounds fantastic! We all learn from new ideas! Make a video and post it!

[@Mike-su8si]

Im gonna put 2 elbows on the side of my burner and a flu and screen on both ends of the heat pipe then use drywall or something for were i hook the heat pipe on to so it wont burn the wood were its screwed onto My burner was a old but still new looking cheap air compressor But I'll put my first elbow pipe on the top side of my burner not right next to the chimney but to the top side of it on the burner so almost on the corner of the burner either way its gonna pump heat into the cats shed I do already have a vent on the roof of the shed so i could run the heater pipe through the shed to that and hook a y up then hook it to the vent whatever way its still gonna pump heat in there and there's air gaps so some heat will go back outside anyways it'll go out the top vent to if i don't hook it to that This is all just a small experiment but doing it all safe might not all be by code but they ain't paying our taxes here

[@mikeschneider2161]

You should in case that barrel stove in cement🍻👌

[@ronstickle4694]

Best idea yet! 😀

[@adamtheheavyequipmentmechanic]

seems like such a waste. maybe put the feed door open to the out side but 95% of the stove inside the garage

[@ronstickle4694]

agree maybe will do that in the future.. Thanks!

[@matthewtreyyy]

I don’t understand how the smoke just avoids the room

[@ronstickle4694]

Its easy.. There were no leaks in the inner pipe but even if there were the high pressure going through it from the blower not allow the lower pressure from the fire to enter the pipe. Maybe only if the blower was not on.

[@wwilliam7]

Precis så e de ramo

[@chrisask2065]

Would my wife fit inside the firebox? Just trying to get an idea of how big this 55 gallon drum is....😋

[@ronstickle4694]

depends on the size or your wife lol!

[@chrisask2065]

Johnny cash had a song called “one piece at a time”, good song.

[@nataliegist2014]

I'm going to cob over mine. To make a mass heater.

[@ronstickle4694]

i hear you on that! i have something new in the works for the same building that should blow this one away!

[@Imnotyourdoormat]

turbo barrel heater........

[@Liveforeever]

That is a very inefficient heat exchanger, more loops ziz zags should have been made

[@ronstickle4694]

i didn't want it to get to hot as i had plains to hook it up to a clothes dryer that i did in another video..to hot would burn up clothing..thanks for the comment

[@Liveforeever]

Ron Stickle I thought you might be trying to get the most out of the energy from the oil but fair enough then, good build though

[@ronstickle4694]

thanks if i wanted to i could get more heat but i have to many projects to invest the time..by the way i worked as a BMW dealer tech for over 25 years and i think the best they ever built was the 3 series e30

[@Liveforeever]

Ron Stickle I wouldn't know tbh I've only ever had one bmw and that's the e63 m6, I do remember seeing the e30 m3 as a kid and discovered that bmw was a manufacturer..

[@3382187900]

what a waist off time and wood no efficiency what so ever !!!!

[@ronstickle4694]

Thanks for the comment! And you are exactly correct. I work with gasoline in the pole barn and can have no fire inside! I now use a diesel heater. Do you have some better ideas? I really need more ideas to work with!