Barry Bonds Before And After Steroids

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[@strkeout]

Sad part is he never needed to go down the PED path. He was great without it. It was his pride and ego that drove him down that path when he saw the accolades other PED players were receiving.

[@bbjfam8248]

He has said himself it was seeing all the attention on Mark and Sammy while he was putting up Natural MVP numbers while being way overlooked. So you're absolutely correct💯

[@god_hand576]

@LEROY JENKINS he was already a HOF in the pirate years

[@metalmac2347]

This is what I always say. The guy was easily a Hall of Famer before any of the PEDs. Unfortunately, the allegations will always overshadow the many amazing season he had before them.

[@rbbrbb4715]

could have still been a great player, never would have touched the HR record though

[@strkeout]

@@rbbrbb4715 He was a great player that soiled his reputation by turning to PEDs. The HR chase between McGwire and Sosa was in 1998. "Assuming" Bonds was clean through 1998 and he started the PEDs the following season, he was averaging 31.6 HRs per season up until that point. In 1999, he turned 34 years old and players start to decline in their mid 30's. At best, if he plays the same length of time and his performance doesn't decline (which is unlikely because no one beats father time naturally) he probably gets near 690 HR's. Adjusting for natural decline, he probably doesn't get near 690 but is still probably top 6 all-time and just ahead of GriffeyJr.

[@CapAnson12345]

I'll never forget seeing Bonds during the 1998 Home Run derby. Watching Mark McGwire launch moon shot after moon shot. I think Sosa ended up winning. Anyway Bonds is watching McGwire like a kid who just saw the greatest toy any kid could ever hope to get from Santa under the Christmas tree. More excited than the fans almost. It was the next year in 99 he showed up 20 pounds heavier, head shaved, forehead popping out like a cro magnon and his HR % jumped from 5.3% to 7.8% and of course only went up from there. His stolen bases went from 28 to 15 as he lost speed. less doubles and triples as well he was just swinging for the fences. It didn't take a genius to figure out what he did.

[@teejay3698]

Steroids or no steroids, it's inspiring huh? He worked his ass off clearly

[@PaulDo22]

​@@teejay3698😂 Whatever you say.

[@SmoothKatDaddy12]

​@@PaulDo22 Bot

[@cesarantonioterrerosanchez9627]

You re wrong...Griffey Jr won 1998 and 1999 home run derby...Sosa won 2000 home run derby.

[@cesarantonioterrerosanchez9627]

​@@teejay3698No one worked harder than Bonds during Offseason ... While most of the players beggan training and regular season out of shape Bonds always put good April numbers.

[@ryanlieberman9255]

For those old enough to remember watching Bonds during his steroid era, the video can’t truly capture how incredible he was to watch. During this period if you threw Bonds a strike that caught any decent part of the plate, the ball was leaving the yard, period. He was walked once a game of not more, and on at least one occasion intentionally walked with the bases loaded. It was a surreal scene to watch his at bats.

[@zacharykropidlowski172]

I am so glad this was my childhood. I got to watch the Greatest Era in sports period.

[@fluffnstuff91]

I remember watching him in both candlestick and the new stadium

[@fdsfs665]

I remember he played against the Mets and they intentionally walked him while the bases were loaded lol never saw anything like that ever, dude was hacking irl

[@bassAssassin187]

So happy I got to see him hit one in mcovy cove. We saw the best to ever swing a baseball bat period!

[@jroq1235]

4 straight years with an .OBP above .500 peaking that 4th year at above .600 ... absolutely crazy

[@drewhunkins7192]

The thing with Bonds is that he was a sure-fire first ballot Hall of Famer if he had never touched 'roids/PED. He was on a pace to be a top 15 player All-time had he never touched 'roids/PED.

[@Yourgrac3]

Top 15 is an insult. Top 3 at worst with or without p3ds because a few years after he retired all the stats guys realized that young barry bonds was the perfect offensive player. Hit for power and average and walked and stole bases constantly. Knowing the value of getting on base is unquestionably the biggest change sabermetrics has brought. Jr was better at his peek prior to p3ds but he was injured a lot and even someone like mays didn't have Barry's eye.

[@drewhunkins7192]

@@Yourgrac3 I guess I'd disagree that a pre-Roids Bonds was better than Mays. But your points are well taken, he's definitely top 10 if he never touches Roids.

[@lincolnmaceachern2410]

I remember some commentator or former player saying,"players usually lose bat speed as they age, Bonds' bat speed is getting faster."

[@heavy7799]

...and we all know why.

[@ErikDayne]

As a Cubs fan I remember hearing stories about how every year Sammy Sosa’s helmet size kept getting bigger because of HGH

[@Cincinnatus1869]

@Lionel Clay how then did he hit .370 ? Because he was getting around on pitches he couldn't have gotten around on before. His bat speed definitely increased

[@kalemcshane9391]

Roids will do that

[@MrJabbers24]

@@Cincinnatus1869 Actually, the bad speed didn’t change much from BONDS 206 lbs (Pirates) of 67.34mph to BONDS 230 lbs (Giants) of 68.81. He used the same 32oz bat throughout his career. Mph difference was 1.48mph which is not a ridiculous change for your conclusion. He was a low and high middle in hitter for the most part. However, he had no problem going opposite field and dead center. He had the eye for it just like some good players do is all. He was the best LF of the 90s hands down. It sucks that he got caught up with the roids era honestly. He still deserves to go to the hall of fame like the rocket, aroid, palmeiro, Big Mac. Do you agree? I’m 45 years old so.... Question, during your lifetime, who is the best 5 tool talent baseball player you’ve ever seen played? Mine is the kid Griffey Jr

[@TurdFerguson2525]

Bonds: What time is puberty? Aragorn: Barry, you're in your 30s. You've already had puberty Bonds: I had first puberty, what about second puberty?

[@danielrodrigues2041]

Second puberty was called "Test".

[@steroidsR4losers]

What time is STEROIDS! Stay natural buddy!

[@ColbyCadwell]

Omg lolll

[@sela562jig]

🤣🤣🤣🤣👍

[@jeremywehrman906]

Every place is a good place for some Tolkien.

[@justinbehrenshausen1653]

3:18 “This one is headed for New Jersey!” Easily my favorite Jonny Miller call

[@SCFishinDad]

He’s had a lot to love!

[@oldretrogamer78]

Never really understood that since the ball would have really had to boomerang to get there. LOL

[@gregoryheim1484]

Wonder what the exit velocity was on that one?

[@theabsorbingman2492]

@@oldretrogamer78 he should of said all the way to Shea stadium.

[@kennymitchell1730]

Does anyone rememberhis dad Bobby bonds one of the best all around d players I've ever seen

[@blablablugh]

I saw Bonds hit 2 in Kansas City. When the dude came to bat, you couldn't hear a peep in a sold out stadium crowd. The ball coming off his bat made a sound I have never heard from any other hitter, ever. The ball jumped to every field with such a scary pace, no matter if he had gone to the opposite field or pulled it. Sad thing is, as some mentioned, he was doing that before he was juicing.

[@anti-apathy9715]

There are some players who really showed great improvement with PED. McGuire, Sosa, Rafael Palmeiro and Juan Gonzales to name a few. However, it's Bond's post prime numbers that are simply not believable. No human athlete ever got better after his prime. Bond's was really juicing! He wanted to be the King of Baseball... He wanted to replace the Babe. No way. No one talks about Bonds when they talked about GREAT hitters. He ruined his image.

[@shanedelgado666]

Aaron Judge has that same pop off the bat.

[@larimerbixby4853]

Sad ending for an angry, talented man.

[@larimerbixby4853]

NO, actually he wasn't.

[@larimerbixby4853]

@@anti-apathy9715 KUDOS! "No human athlete ever got BETTER after their prime." What in Jehovahs business more do have to realize. And it has since STOPPED. Man we are pathetic to let these irrtional thoughta paralyze us in hero worship. SAD.

[@Harmelcon]

Bonds before steroids: "You don't want me to get angry." After steroids: "Hulk smash puny baseball."

[@JsPerspective]

😆😆😆😆

[@PaulusTHC]

Bonds after steroids: “Me angry? Roid rage all the time!”

[@geraldgoldsby8533]

Gold gloves...please! Barry is baseball.

[@danm9460]

After steroids? What steroids are you referring to? Where are the positive test results?

[@AJ-ly8si]

GEORGE!!!

[@JPAFJR]

Great no nonsense batting stance. Full body swing. I don’t condone steroids, but a homer that barely clears the wall or goes to the upper deck is the same earned run. No matter what, he started with a great stance and swing.

[@iamBJLJ]

‘Full Body’ swings typically result in top spin - Bonds was a freak bc of how quick his hands were through the zone. Short Swing w/ bat speed generated by leading with your hands creates back spin, which is why Bonds HR’s seemed to keep rising.. all backspin.

[@FranzFerdinand76]

When he joined the Giants he took the name literally.

[@danvan318]

Except he was on the Giants for 6 years before he started using PED’s.

[@jwallace_windowsbyrba9703]

🤣🤣

[@therealbrillshow2984]

He didn’t use until 2003. He was the same size for years. 73 HRs that year probably was using.

[@steroidsR4losers]

The ROIDERS might as well put pillows under their clothes and walk around. ROIDERS are FAKES! Stay natural buddy!

[@ozzuzzomg]

@@therealbrillshow2984 he started in 1998

[@JackFlaps]

I remember telling people that MLB wouldn`t do anything about steroids until they improve a pitchers fastball.

[@thomasconnell1556]

I was talking to my dad today and he was telling me how he met up with an old friend he hadn’t seen in 30 years and it brought up all these memories he forgot about. I told him I can’t remember my teenage years at all. He told me I will whenever something triggers those memories. Not even 24 hours later a random Barry Bonds montage pops up on my KZbin feed and BAM.

[@ACarter87]

This is what sucks about losing your friends to life or death :/ You truly do lose a part of yourself, because they hold memories you don’t have, and you hold one’s they don’t The best is when a 3rd party shows up and remembers things both of you forgot I used to have impeccable memory up to a couple years ago, and it just turned into blocks missing :/ sucks

[@TheSean7564]

Years ago I worked out 7 days a week with three other guys. Two of the four decided on the juice and one guy and myself decided to not. The growth of the other two (after two years of being neck and neck in workouts) was unbelievable. I am not saying that it was the steroids alone but one guy lost his mind and house and cars and marriage and the other guy, once he stopped juicing, stopped working out and disappeared. Haven't seen or heard of him in years. Does it work? You bet your ass it works! Overnight! But Boys, let me tell you this one very isolated story ... these two guys were "all kinds of f*cked up after getting on the juice"! Gains? You betcha! Temporary? Definitely? Did it F them up? I am not a doctor but I saw what I saw and it was bad.

[@bball1777]

Wow, thanks for the story. Jesus loves you (John 3:16)

[@factsornah5847]

Good story bro

[@TheSean7564]

Yes, He does, Brother! You too! Thank you for the reminder!

[@alexquinonez8443]

They couldn't handle the gains 💪

[@ryanjacobson2508]

Yeah but I would guess that recreational drug users probably are more impulsive and reckless in the first place, even while sober, than non-drug users.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

When you're great enough but still need PEDs that's the tragedy in this...

[@gato7908]

Want not need. He wanted immortality which he would probably not have without them.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

@@gato7908 Semantics..you're reading very deep on this one...lol..

[@gato7908]

@@rickrobitaille8809 it's not at all semantics. Some players did it just to keep their jobs or earn a higher level of income. Bonds was already a superstar bound for the hall of fame. He did it to put himself above even the best hall of famers.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

@LEROY JENKINS True..

[@OtisMoto]

his performance allowed him to make tens of millions of extra dollars, hardly a tragedy.

[@johnkoziol7425]

You can see a distinct difference in Barry Bonds’ build from his days as a Pirate to his days as a Giant. Plus, the homers he hit went a whole lot further when he was a Giant than they ever did while he was a Pirate.

[@awakentotruthmichaelsmith4698]

He didn’t start juicing immediately with the giants, 99 is when he got on the juice

[@chiarosuburekeni9325]

Crazy thing is he was going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer with his Pittsburgh Pirates pre-steroids build. Then again steroids do help you with recovery so who knows he might’ve gotten hurt if he never take them so

[@djmri51]

Yeah… he was a bit then a man

[@djmri51]

Do you people have any idea how hard it is to play baseball… Steroids or not. You still need skill to do what the guy did

[@timothywilliams1359]

Pre-steroid Bonds (age 21 - 34) averaged 32 HRs per year. Steroid Bonds (age 35-39) averaged 52 HRs per year. ALL the steroid users, both hitters and pitchers (like Clemens) put up huge numbers during their mid- to late-30s and later, years when all normal athletes endure a natural decline in performance. Looked at another way, four of the five best HR years for non-steroid Bonds immediately preceded the year when he began to use steroids. But even those excellent years, from age 31 - 34, showed consistent decline in power: 42, 40, 37 and 34 HRs respectively. Then at age 35... BOOM: 49 HRs. There is absolutely no question that all his HR records are tainted by steroid use. Which is a shame, because he was a legitimate 5-tool player, one of the best in history, and would easily have been a first-ballot Hall of Fame inductee were it not for the steroids.

[@astrobullivant5908]

A lot of guys are either still dominant or even improve in their late-30's and early 40's, but they just choose to retire because they have already been playing for 20 years and opponents have figured them out. Nolan Ryan, Tony Gwynn, David Ortiz, Randy Johnson, Willie Mays, Ted Williams, and many other players had dominant seasons in their early 40's, although Mays declined when he was 42. One big factor for the decline doesn't seem to be related to biological aging at all, but rather pitchers' strategies improving against the players because they have a lot more data and film to study. Look at how Ichiro declined: pitchers and catchers just figured him out and he was too stubborn to adapt. Pitchers' cut-fastballs improving a lot is what hurt Ichiro, not age.

[@bobgomavitz1330]

Stats mean little till you provide all the stats….like the % of HR’s during your time frame to compare his in ease vs the leagues increases too. Also, where you are in the line up means something. BB was a lead off hitter at times.

[@mikejessmax]

Aww cone on Clemens never used steroids....you must have misremembered that

[@derekgoldstine1523]

Who really cares u would have done the same thing

[@gonzaloleon-gelpi9151]

Bonds age thirty-four-year would be a steroid year. The years before age twenty-five would be his early years when hitters hit less HR as a rule. Then you have expansion, the last one taking place in 1998. If you look at records after expansion, you will see that power hitting increased. Testing for steroids started in 2003. Bonds still hit a lot of homers after that, even in his last two years after the injury year at age 40. There are some hitters that clocked a lot of homers at a later age. The most pronounced case is that of Cy Williams in the 1920s. Hank Aaron also had a surge in HR production in his later years. So, your numbers are somewhat skewed because of the way you divide the years. Also, started right after 1998, Bonds went into serious training, something that he didn't do before. He was known as a laid-back player, but when he saw all the adulations that McGwire and Sosa were receiving, he took it upon himself to go into training. And last, he only admitted to taking the cream. There is no proof that he ever did steroids. And how is it that steroids improved his performance but had a deleterious impact on Canseco's?

[@yell0wberry]

He went from looking like Michael Phelps to looking like Bill Goldberg

[@williamfolts8862]

Over a ten year period

[@stevest8675]

Lol. So true

[@steroidsR4losers]

The ROIDERS might as well put pillows under their clothes and walk around. ROIDERS are FAKES! Stay natural buddy!

[@stevest8675]

@@steroidsR4losers , agree

[@steroidsR4losers]

The reason the STEROID LOSERS don't like talking about their STEROIDS: The STEROID LOSERS want us to believe their "size" & "strength" came from lifting weights! The STEROID LOSERS want us to buy their BOGUS supplements & "training programs"! FAKES & CROOKS! Stay natural buddy!

[@thefungoden3978]

In 1997 Barry Bonds was clean, a five tool player, the best in the game and he knew it. Suddenly juiced up McGwire and Sosa come along and become the heroes of the nation in 1998, and Bonds becomes barely a footnote. I'm not saying it's right what he did, but I can understand why he did it.

[@voiceofreezn8018]

Better than Ken Griffey Jr?

[@KOCChristian]

@@voiceofreezn8018 yes Bonds was slightly better hitter, also Bonds was great stealing bases unlike Jr.

[@voiceofreezn8018]

@@KOCChristian glove in the outfield?

[@BXGUY73]

So you understood his jealousy? Still not an excuse as far as I am concerned.

[@voiceofreezn8018]

@@BXGUY73 facts...that homerun record was arguably the most sacred record in sports and took that by cheating...I can't stand Barry Bonds or Mark McGwire and ESPECIALLY Sammy Sosa

[@uberboomer8670]

During his freak years everyone just focused on the hr totals, but equally impressive to me was that Dbacks game in the video, he stroked his 40th hr while posting a .341 avg, and his obp was even more gaudy. Literal video game numbers

[@InfamousCrimeLocations]

His walk vs strikeout numbers is also insane

[@thirdlegstalliano]

Ted Williams numbers

[@photocrafting6068]

​@thirdlegstalliano Ted didn't need steroids.

[@Dapper_Dean]

Bonds was great with or without roids. Ted was the same way, if he would have chosen to take roids. @@photocrafting6068

[@michaeldoran4367]

ARM-Pittsburgh BUTT Pirates

[@ExtrovertedCenobite]

Three of us were workout partners and we would hit the gym every morning and every evening 6 days a week, we worked out like animals. At the same time, 3 individuals joined the gym approximately our age. They were fit, in good shape but after a period of time started injection steroids. Within 7 months they left us in the dust, they grew and gained so much muscle and size in such a short period of time that it frustrated us. We were working out 3 hours per day and they surpassed us in no time. Years later I run into one of them and he has lost 90% of the size he gained and later I ran into another one of his training partners and he was overweight. Steroids allowed them to make incredible gains but it is fleeting. Look at before and after pictures of former Mr. Olympias. If you want gains that last go natural, it is slower, more difficult but healthy and long lasting!

[@PomazeBog1389]

I once did 650 lbs bench RAW. How do you like that, DALE?!?

[@adamtruitt2353]

Size doesn't matter like it does in football. Until the 90s lifting was generally considered counterproductive by limiting ROM and flexibility. The average player now is stacked compared to the players of the 80s and before, as weights are used properly. But, roids were there as the weights increased (as was creatine and all the other cocktails meant to improve a workout and gains, to a much lesser degree). You still have to see and hit the ball. Other than his belt and hat size, Bonds showed a-typical general roid behavior, becoming almost Zen like.

[@cjvaye99]

you were probably working out way too much. over training is a real thing. 1.5-2 hours at most. 3 hours sounds nuts.

[@nigabastard1268]

Lifting 6 days a week for 3 hours everyday is stupid..less is more dummy

[@ExtrovertedCenobite]

@@nigabastard1268 Ok, thanks for the advice Jack A$$$$$! Of course benching 405, squat 450 and 1,200 leg press 45 degree angle for 12 reps and curling 220 Natural was the result. 52" chest 18" arms and 32 inch waist! Have you done better you clown? Would I advice 3 hour workouts per day now, No, but this was a different time period and the results we achieved with NO HGH, Steriods, etc was good enough for us!

[@brandofamily]

And MLB was complicit in the entire steroid era!

[@steviesevieria1868]

Yup, used to be a big baseball fan until the steroid era, now I wouldn’t watch a baseball game if you paid me. Permanent taint that can’t be removed.

[@brandonduhon1933]

That’s what ppl never say . I agree

[@justindolcater5277]

@@steviesevieria1868 all your favorite players before steroid dra will still taking performance enhancements also pitchers were taking forms of meth like adderall from the 1950s on

[@peacethroughstrength172]

F it, its entertainment and if I can pay to see that 500 ft yard hit thats great. You still have to have been a great hitter to do this. Also if a pro athlete can be around an extra 5 seasons on Andro or whatever it was at the time, so be it.

[@brandofamily]

I’ll also add a question for you all, why are the PEDs in baseball such a cheat that both fans and esp writers ostracize plays even suspected of using them but in the NFL it’s a few games suspension and fans and the rest just lament the loss of the player for a few games, then put them in the Hall of Fame if they were good enough, even on PEDs?

[@manuelsoto9939]

The book 'Game of Shadows', which chronicled Bonds' steroid use, was on point in its assessment of steroid use: if you were an ok player, steroids made you good, if you were good, steroids made you great, if you were great, steroids made you a legend. Bonds was great without the steroids.

[@RandyRhoadsRules3]

He was a top 10 position player even without steroids. Steroids made him OP

[@manuelsoto9939]

@Dark Lord Samoht there was a lot of evidence. Read the book.

[@manuelsoto9939]

Jury did not convict Bonds of lying in sworn testimony about his drug use. But they did convict him of obstructing justice with evasive and misleading testimony.

[@nick-rp2do]

@Dark Lord Samoht doesn't mean he didn't either. Oj committed murder and got away with it.

[@nickajk1]

@Dark Lord Samoht haha

[@deadpool1092]

Bonds and Griffey jr have the smoothest swings in the history of the game

[@morecowbell235]

@greenlion2890David. The wife beater. Justice.

[@Whyidontkno]

Griffey Jr. Hands down, greatest hitter ever

[@afridgetoofar1818]

I like Griffey better

[@_not_sure_]

Shoehei and Ichiro have the sweetest swings

[@username-zj9id]

I always include Daryl strawberry too.

[@buffalopatriot]

Wow. Before steroids he actually looks like his dad, Bobby Bonds.

[@obbor4]

Bobby didn't have Barry's bat control, but boy could he fly!

[@jaysonj9327]

Even his head got bigger. Literally. Lots of guys were juicing in that steroids era, but Bonds was out of his mind on the stuff. The brutal irony being he was a 1st ballot HOF player naturally. .300+ hitter with natural 40+ home run power and speed on the bases too. His ego and his outrage at being overshadowed by juice hounds McGwire and Sosa led him down the wrong path. Sad but true.

[@ravenr1420]

Bonds was a lock for the Hall of Fame before the steroids. The jealousy of the attention Sosa and McGwire were getting in that Homerun Derby of a season in 1998 is what set him off. Narcissism is what ruined Barry Bonds.

[@nonyabizz3533]

No it was the will to be the best which we should all strive for. Bonds did it the right way. You do whatever, by any means necessary to be thr best. Anything

[@richardgrace5043]

@@nonyabizz3533 except ken griffey jr was just as good as him and bonds and sosa and never touched PED's or steroids and is now in the hall of fame. Griffey could have done WAYYY more in his career if he would have just avoided that jump into the outfield wall that fuked up both of his knees and basically derailed his career from that point on

[@Vic82toire]

@@nonyabizz3533 No. Not by any means necessary, unless you're a psycho.

[@anthonyriche552]

I agree. I lived through it and remember it well. I think the biggest key was McGwire who was juiced up probably doing basic roids. Bonds was likely doing HGH which caused his head/neck to swell. Jealousy definitely played some part in it along with the fact that it was open season for roid use back then- never thinking that they'd get caught. And honestly, if it wasn't for Canseco, this era might've gotten swept under the rug.

[@louispaine820]

You're absolutely right I saw the interview, Bonds was great before but his achievements are bifurcated by his steroid CHEATING .

[@skosh6359]

Without steroids, he probably would've retired about 6-7 years sooner with about 300 less HR, but he would definitely be in the Hall of Fame.

[@lmcc0072]

Right! I think that he would have gotten close to 500 home runs and 500 stolen bases if he didn’t do steroids. That would be an incredible record to have, but he wanted more.

[@ZPLS18]

Get the fuck outta here. He was. 2 time MVP and since when does steroids make you’re body more durable. Stfu!!

[@aceassn716]

Bonds talent clearly didnt fall off a cliff as he aged though! Was still great ages 40-43 His stats were still good to great Didnt he led the majors in on base percent his final season??

[@fartmachine5000]

Well yeah he did steroids. If he stayed clean probably would have had 650ish, and he would have been considered the best ever

[@kingdinodragonite3470]

@@lmcc0072 He would probably have 140 WAR and retire at 40 if he did not do steroids. He had a 180 OPS+ from 1990-2000 for 11 straight years. His worst hitting season in those 11 seasons were 156 OPS+. For comparison, Judge already has 5 seasons worse than that. Bonds is arguably the greatest defender in left field. Without steroids, he would have reached 600 stolen bases instead of 514 because he would got slower using roids and 600 Home Runs (he already have 494 HRs before the steroids). 600/600 club, 140 WAR, best defender for his position. Bonds BEFORE HE TOOK STEROIDS was Judge with steroids lol but he is also much quicker and much better defender. He would still be one of the GOATS without steroids.

[@DameOhh]

It’d be good if you added some context and wrote his age or the season he was in when he hit each home run to better understand where he was in his career at that point.

[@mikepastor.k6233]

I thought there would be some dialog and comparisons and actual data to provide what we all know. This is just another home run compilation.

[@dollarcostbackpacker1226]

Others have commented to fill us in.

[@dollarcostbackpacker1226]

@@mikepastor.k6233 no it isnt, there is this thing called nuance. Look at his homeruns. Then he is 40 years old and slamming them 600ft!!!!!

[@gord7025]

The mustache was holding him back.

[@jwalk7134]

Underrated comment

[@cptsparklfingerz9210]

I hate Bonds but this was the greatest comment in KZbin history

[@lonesomecowboy848]

Lol

[@eugenemoore191]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@steroidsR4losers]

The ROIDERS might as well put pillows under their clothes and walk around. ROIDERS are FAKES! Stay natural buddy!

[@johnnies76]

I remember he was a dangerous hitter with the Pirates. He never needed steroids. He would have made the HOF without them. He would have gotten 500 homeruns 3000 hits or both. I remember he played in the first MLB game I saw in person. He went 3-4 with a single double and a HR. He was awesome even without the steroids!

[@neon920]

What did Pittsburgh receive from SF for the trade?

[@sqwurd4610]

@@neon920 it was free agency, I believe

[@NeverOwned]

Barry was pure talent. Definitely didnt need them, but sure was fun to watch those bombs.

[@stankatic8182]

Absolutely ! He became jealous of McGwire and Sosa grabbing headlines in the 1998 season .

[@neon920]

An obvious steroid situation was Buddy Bell's son, who played for Seattle and Cincy. He had one great year and his shoulders were huge. Two years after, he had a bad year and the next injuries and poof never seen anything about him ever again.

[@tuesdaywalker5941]

I feel like people don’t understand how good Bonds really was. Even without PED he was still averaging video game numbers he was easily a first ballot hall of famer. People today don’t have an even close as good swing as him and it shows. Aaron Judge even said he studied Barry’s swing.

[@benhaney9629]

It’s actually quite sad that a 40/40 guy, a multiple gold glover, a guy with a decade of splits at .300+/.400+/.1000+, a literal top ten player ALL TIME felt he HAD to do steroids to get the recognition he deserved. You ever hear the story of the dinner he had with Griffey after the Sosa McGuire home run season? They had been a friends since Griffey was like 17. They had a lot in common. Both raised with fathers in the league, both phenoms, both black. Apparently they related to each other and were good friends. Anyway, after the 98 season Bonds takes Griffey out for dinner. Bonds tells him how he feels. That he’s basically tired of McGuire and Sosa and the other steroids home run hitters getting all the recognition and never getting punished for taking steroids. He’s better than they are. He’s decided. If that’s what the league wants. If they are simply going to encourage these cheaters, than he’s going to do it as well. Griffey should consider doing the same... Griffey said that he had kids and he didn’t want his kids to even think he was a cheater. Their careers diverged from there. Bonds went in to have the greatest hitting seasons in the history of baseball. The rest of Hriffeys career was downhill from there. Plagued by injury. And he was like 5 years younger than Bonds. Then again Griffey is in the Hall and Bonds isn’t. But you can’t help sympathize with Bonds. He had seen steroid use and steroid users not only countenanced and not punished but glorified by the league and press during his decade in the league. Every one knew about steroids and no cared. So if that’s the way people felt than he would do them too. After years of not doing them and getting no credit at all. Then he does then and everyone collectively changes their minds and now he’s a cheater. Shit sucks...

[@conanlive3784]

I don't agree that "nobody cared". It turned a LOT of fans off when they found out about all the juicing. I no longer care about McGwire, Sosa, Bonds and their accomplishments, they're tainted. I'm excited to see how many homers Judge will get this year, and if Pujols can get to 700.

[@mrsinister8943]

That's why I blame the MLB. They failed to protect the sanctity of the game and their legendary homerun records. I remember when that reporter found that androstene or whatever in McGwires locker and nobody cared, it wasn't a secret though us fans didnt know the extent across the league. What I find sad is that now those homerun records will never come close to being broken unless the player is also cheating. Bonds was always a superstar and a great player though I think Griffey was better until injuries and Bonds taking steroids. Bonds in roids was probably the best offensive force in baseball history. I'm also assuming alot of pitchers were juiced up also but I'm not sure how it was compared to alot of hitters. Baseball really screwed up not protecting their game and forever losing alot of luster for the recorded.

[@DoubleJHas2ManyDoodles]

Point proven that roids doesn’t help you hit baseballs. It helps you stay healthy enough and strong enough to do it past your prime.

[@conanlive3784]

@@DoubleJHas2ManyDoodles And it helps warning track fly balls go over the fence instead of being caught in front of it. Had to have added dozens to his homer total.

[@mikebird5148]

@@DoubleJHas2ManyDoodles I used to have this argument with my buddy who was a Bonds fan, "roids don't help you hit the ball" , , but they do, your body on juice is a totally different animal, you recover faster, your muscles react faster, stronger, ....and a once pop up to left turns into a upper deck home run, every pro can hit the ball, they are pros after all, , on steroids, they are pros with super powers.

[@TheTruthThatYouDontWantToHear]

Steroids or no steroids, that swing was buttery smooth, fast as lightning and full of power

[@levivanpelt703]

Andros helps you recoup faster after workouts

[@steroidsR4losers]

Too bad the ROIDERS can't lift weights for size and strength! ROIDERS are FAKES! Stay natural buddy!

[@jwil4905]

Actually, fast as lightning and full of power BECAUSE of the steroids.

[@michaell8722]

Bonds had one, if not the fastest wrist snaps in baseball and that is what made him a great and feared hitter..

[@aholmes74ah]

Choked up on the bat

[@yell0wberry]

I think Tony Gwynn probably had the best wrist snap I’ve seen from a hitter this side of Hank Aaron, Barry bonds is by far the greatest dead red hitter during an at bat I’ve ever seen, easily

[@dicktracy5066]

because he used a shortened bat

[@leecowell8165]

@@dicktracy5066 he had a very short, compact swing with tremendous speed on it. he'd actually be waiting on a 100 mph fastball. The man had incredibly quick reflex as well. Saw him many times jerk a 100 mph ball foul and out of the stadium.. right field, btw. insane. nobody did it like Bonds. I remember an interview with Yellich when Bonds was coaching Miami as their hitting coach. Yellich stated that Bonds taught him a LOT about hitting.

[@birdman8156]

The steroids, also adds quickness and speed, which is part of the by-product from the added strength 💪

[@Kassadinftw]

Ken Griffey Jr. the true legend of this era for not roiding.

[@jamaalhorton2343]

Stop it!! He was roided too!!

[@TheMarianoDelgado]

Yeah, as far as you know. Would you put your hands in the fire for any of them? Griffey kind of blew up a bit too, except his body broke down on him, he didn't become this super monster cyborg like Bonds

[@reesejabs1895]

Another good guy was Jim Thome.

[@trevor5904]

​@reesejabs1895 thome juiced too.. thome blew up top go look.at him in like 1991.. some guys juiced to get over or prevent injury.

[@TheMarianoDelgado]

@@trevor5904 yup, fact of the matter is, no one is safe. It wasnt just about bulking up. It was also about stamina and recovery time. They also had masking agents to avoid any positive tests. Every now and then someone still tests positive.

[@scoremat]

That sweet, devastating swing never changed tho

[@scoremat]

@@jefferyschroeder5245 I don't know about that... but even if true anyone could have used it, and many were on roids - but Bonds was the only one launching balls into the cove consistently. He was a hated player, but his talent and baseball IQ were off the charts. A polarizing figure for sure, but love him or hate him the world stopped when he stepped into the box, during a game or batting practice.

[@Alundrahs]

If it was so “devastating” then why did he need to cheat and bring shame to the sport he’s “supposed” to care about?

[@scoremat]

@@Alundrahs I've thought about that a lot... I read the book Game Of Shadows written by a reporter that hated Bonds. Even that book admitted that he only began using PEDs in 98 or 99 (I can't remember off hand) after Mcguire and Sosa got all that love for their home run chase, Bonds felt he was the better and more complete player then both of them. He was jealous that they got all the attention. At this point, Bonds was already 400HR/400SB, he could have retired that day and been first ballot HOF, no debate there. Bonds had a rough relationship with the fans but especially the media. He often was not kind or outwardly engaging - he played with a chip on his shoulder. He grew up as a kid in the SFGs dugout with Mays/McCovey, he was never impressed by the fact that he was a baseball player, this was expected of him. So he was never in awe of the reporters, he was grumpy from the start! His father also had a tumultuous relationship with the media so Bonds learned from that as well... it's a complicated case, and Bonds has rarely done himself any PR favors. Admittedly, he's easy to hate. He was arrogant, but knew he was the best. Whatever the case, I am a Giants fan and the early 2000s and the feats he performed with a bat, wow! I've just never seen that kind of domination so consistently. It was an interesting time to be a SFGs fan, that for sure...

[@stephenstrang590]

@Jason Rodriguez dude you haven't done shit research. There is evidence that he communicated daily with a man who was known as the kingpin of hgh. All over bonds transformations are signs. I don't give a shit about court. Did Michael Jackson sexually abuse those boys? I could go on an on. You haven't done any research, nobody in the whole planet is arguing as you do. What do you suspect that means? Sigh.

[@natef3986]

@@jefferyschroeder5245 if you think steroids made bonds better at baseball than he already was, youre dumb

[@v6ix89]

Didn't even need the roids

[@jimtaylor6447]

V6ix was already the best player in the game prior to it

[@v6ix89]

Big facts

[@jimtaylor6447]

V6ix and get was on trajectory to end up in the top 5-10 all time position player category as well regardless.

[@v6ix89]

@@jimtaylor6447 you think his career in SF is a lil tainted??!?! Cause I can't sit here and say he didn't cheat the game and the sad part is I'm a dodgers fan and still respected his game play. We talk about this topic a lot In my Barbershop...

[@jimtaylor6447]

V6ix I personally don’t view it as tainted per se, even though by the rules regarding federal regulation on PED use (off the top of my head) probably establishes that he did break rules. Granted, MLB did a poor job enforcing them too, and since so many players used at the time, it makes me care even less to try dropping the whole “tainted” label on him (which by the way would apply to 1999-2007). So many players used and still sucked. I’m honestly so happy that he used because McGwire and Sosa, while they were using were still not better players than him, and so when he hopped on the bandwagon and used, it was so unfair to everyone else because he was already the best. Dude literally broke baseball, and that stretch from 2001-2004 is the single greatest highlight reel in the history of the sport. Whether people like it or not, this man is the best player of all-time.

[@jeremymiller2124]

Sad thing is, he didn't need steroids to be good. He had the natural ability. Now he will always be know as a steroid user.

[@malcom4328]

So what they all take riods no big deal but they wanted to discredit him simple as that

[@stephenstrang590]

He is not known as that. It is one way in which he is known, but he's known as being a tragic case of an immense talent and showed the works the dark underbelly of baseball and eventually other sports. And the whole world respects that man for taking it in the chin like he did.

[@griffinbrothers4401]

PED's have beaning going on long before Bonds came around. Don't forget all the players of the past that also used PEDs. PUD Galvin in the 1890s for first know baseball PED use. Athletes been using anabolic steroids since 1930s. Before the 30's it was cocaine and animal testosterone. Mantle, Mays, Ruth, Aaron,Stargell, etc and just about everyone been using PED's light years before Bonds, Sosa, and Mcguire. It would be naive or just willful ignorance to think that "cheating" in baseball started in the 90s.

[@swindler9483]

@@griffinbrothers4401 Links please need evidence

[@cleftwich84]

The armor he started wearing that allowed him to crowd the plate without the fear of getting hit should have also been illegal

[@andrecheats]

I've been watching since the 80s, he's the best hitter I ever saw. His peak years were absolutely ridiculous, rarely struck out

[@kongstrong1938]

If you thought steroids enhanced Barry's career, imagine what it would have done for KGJr 24.

[@bigdofba]

Griffey was the greatest player of the 90s

[@thegritzmayne4412]

Griffey would have hit about 900 home runs.

[@Blingem14]

Greatest hitter no doubt

[@TK0_23_]

Bonds was a better hitter than Griffey. Sorry. Bonds is 1 of 8 players with an OPS+ over 180 over a 9 year period. And before you cry steroids, this was the 9 years BEFORE he started taking roids. After, it was above 200. There were 30 players over 160. Griffey did not even make this list. His best stretch was an 8 year stretch with an OPS+ OF 157.

[@senororlando2]

@@thegritzmayne4412 800 easy

[@Patrick.Weightman]

Imagine scoring so many home runs people barely even cheer when it happens because it's SO normal and routine. What a lad

[@brennanhuff596]

The juice ain’t no joke. He was already a badass hitter, just made him even better

[@joshclark2109]

Y does he get love but Sosa's doesn't

[@brennanhuff596]

Cuz nobody likes Dominicans

[@angelicalynn1259]

@@joshclark2109 Because Sosa was a good player before them. Bonds was already a top three in the NL. Sosa was far from that. Before roids Sosa had one AS game only. Shoot if roids stayed out of baseball Bonds already was the best player in baseball (and this coming from a Braves fan). Oh and of course Sosa was a strikeout machine as well.

[@wingsofoblivion9887]

Regardless of steroids, Bonds is one of the most dominant players to ever play the game. Also, steroids don't help you hit the ball. The hand-eye coordination, reflexes, and intelligence are the most important things to a player. That's why he was dominant even before steroids.

[@frankkurdyla1947]

Bat speed was incredible. He waited on every pitch like he was holding a plastic wiffle bat. WOW!

[@ChitFromChinola]

Maybe he was just hitting the weight room . . . doing skull squats.

[@lakermd]

Yeah those head workouts are something else.

[@jeffwilliams6857]

Skull squats...🤣🤣🤣...you win.

[@jorgeB21LA.]

😅🤣🤣 and his shoe size grew 3 sizes I think

[@damohanson5393]

Lol perfect

[@TheMustyrusty]

Balanced breakfasts

[@Nuccturnaal]

Bonds knew he was the best of his generation before taking roids but when he saw not only Sosa but guys like Brady Anderson and Greg Vaughn jacking more homers than he ever did in his career around 1998 I think that pissed off him. He had to set the bar once again.

[@dominickmilano4858]

Yeah he has a lot of World series rings to prove it

[@troutjunkie8863]

I would say Griffey jr

[@elliotmyers625]

No way. Before he started juicing, no one would have taken him over Griffey. For most, probably not over Frank Thomas either. Steroids inflated Bonds' place in history by a lot.

[@tonycrabtree3416]

@@elliotmyers625 Junior is still the better 5 tool player than Bonds of that generation. Junior is 7th all time.

[@TekRizzy]

@@dominickmilano4858 rings to prove he was the best of his generation? Like Mike Trout? Griffey doenst have any rings either, no MVPs etc. If you hate Bonds because of the steroid stuff, that’s legitimate. But you gotta hate other players just as much as well.

[@chadinfinitum1411]

Everybody was ecstatic when McGwire started crushing home runs after dealing with a bad back for years and essentially being irrelevant. His baseball rookie card went down to like $8. During the home run chase people were trying to get $80 all of a sudden. People were beside themselves in excitement. Then Bonds did it and became the most hated man in baseball.

[@NuggetKBDC]

Anyone else have a brain fart moment when they saw the thumbnail and thought “holy shit he was white before steroids?”

[@Dodgersfan150]

3:16 - That is one of the most impressive cuts I've ever seen. Absolutely manhandled. Griffey is still my favorite swing overall though.

[@RC_Engineering]

This one is headed for new jersey!

[@MattG-wl2zj]

One of the most beautiful swings ever, just so smooth. I hope one day we get a Bonds card in The Show.

[@Rockyinlp]

There's a guy you can get in All Star Baseball from back in the day, like 2003 or 2005 that was essentially Barry Bonds as he was not licensed for the game. Plays left field but he's a right hander that crushes everything and has amazing speed on the bases.

[@bill2908]

@@Rockyinlp fun fact Barry bonds is the only player ever to not sign with the mlbpa licensing agreement

[@CatStanleySpaceDemon]

Fact is there are more home runs being hit in today's MLB than there ever were in the 'roid era.

[@MasterTapes1960]

If they put Bonds into the HOF then Pete Rose should be there too!

[@loringjohnson7797]

And Shoeless Joe Jackson.

[@goodtogrow7774]

Absolutely 💯💯💯!!!

[@strangelakers1079]

Rose and Jackson should be in. Bonds, Sosa, McGwire, and other steroid users should never be allowed in.

[@Nick-dl9dn]

There not going to !!

[@shustyrackleford7692]

Pete willing signed the lifetime ban

[@randymcmullen538]

Damn man! Even his head doubled in size...

[@lt4vet17]

That was from the HGH

[@willdelarosa9440]

Remember pitcher on steroids at the time also...not about strength it's about bat speed...

[@steroidsR4losers]

Too bad the ROIDERS can't lift weights for size and strength! ROIDERS are FAKES! Stay natural buddy!

[@aintnoplum]

Was about to say that looks like a different guy

[@joesmith5159]

@@willdelarosa9440 pitching was about recovery not pitching speed so even though they were not looking huge with muscles it still helped your body recovers and is fresher and more healthy making your pitching more likely to be on point

[@garydavis5573]

First 14 years of his career, before Steroids, 8 Gold Gloves, 3 MVPs, 2,000 Games, 445 HRS, 1,299 RBIs, 460 SBs, 1,430 BBs, .288 Ave, .409 OBP, .556 SLG, .968 OPS. From 1990 to 1999 before PEDs he hit Less than 30 HRs once (25). He was a first ballot Hall of Fame candidate at that time. PED numbers were great but all fluff as far as his credentials. Only player in history with 500 HR and 500 SB.

[@maverickcheston8874]

He cheated the game. His steroid use allowed him to wait back on every pitch since a fastball wasn't getting by him with his increased bat speed. Steroids make a difference. If he would've been a Hall of Famer anyway then he himself should've never taken steroids. Bonds didn't need it to keep his job, he wanted to get the attention just like McGuire and Sosa and fell into that trap. I agree he would've been in the Hall if he would've just kept on training like normal but he had to get the best of the best designer steroid for some crazy reason.

[@garydavis5573]

@@maverickcheston8874 if steroids helped bat speed as much as you think it does why didn’t it increase any other players bat speed? He seems like the only player that benefited during this time with contact rate , walks, not just free passes and hard contact rate. The owners needed this and I think encouraged players after the strike because attendance was way down. The Marlins averaged about 7,000 a game but when the Giants came to town, 40,000 showed up. This isn’t anything new. Steroids and HGH have been around a long time. I’m 71 and we had guys in my high school that “Roided out” in the late 60’s. Not saying it was right, just a lot more prevalent than the league is telling us. Big Papi tested positive and Bonds never did. Perhaps he had better distributors or product.

[@MrGeorgieffx27]

Don’t kid yourself. He was on the steroids way before 445!

[@s.s7337]

@@MrGeorgieffx27 He was still a great player even without steroids

[@tankwfw]

We don't know when he started doing steroids

[@hyzercreek]

3:20 why would a HR be headed toward New Jersey? Yankee Stadium faces east. A dinger would land in Westchester

[@FreedomFighter2112]

His dad (Bobby Bonds) was thin when he was a young ballplayer as well but then he grew a lot thicker as he aged...like most of us

[@TSOTGPodcast]

I'm glad someone finally said it. But no one wants to talk about that. Emphasis on "US". Everyone wants to talk about Steroid use (never proven) or his attitude with the media (justified)...but we all know what the REAL issue is.

[@kheindl100]

hah. his head didnt get bigger. funny how it happened only after mcgwire n sosa got attention. cheater. liar. no hof u til he admits it

[@mikemckenzie3488]

Are you really suggesting that he didn't use steroids? How native can a person be?

[@erichvonmanstein6876]

@@mikemckenzie3488 why got proof he did? Huh? Then shut your mouth.

[@mikemckenzie3488]

@@erichvonmanstein6876 lmao. You can't prove he didn't. He obviously did, but you're apparently blinded af. I can't believe I even wasted my time replying to you're dumbass. Have a nice life

[@annapolismike]

Aaron then Ruth. The true Home Run kings. Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, Canseco stats should not count or at the very least have their own "steroid" category. 756 by Aaron should be the ONLY Home Run record recognized!.

[@brucifer1972]

I totally agree....

[@stevenwaller3295]

If they counted the early African American League Josh Gibson would be the hands down Home run King.. then hank… both truly amazing athletes from the times when men had more grit and needed less help..

[@annapolismike]

@@stevenwaller3295 Josh Gibson was a once in a generation athlete. I attempted to find the dimensions of the Parks he played in with-out any luck. Can you provide those?

[@deplorableb.r.4211]

Hammerin' Hank is still the HR king! RIP Hank Aaron

[@1guitar12]

No he’s not. He had 4000 more at bats than Ruth to break his record for christ sake.

[@eugenemotes9921]

@@1guitar12 SHUT FUCKKKKKKK UP

[@1guitar12]

@@eugenemotes9921 Did I strike a nerve Eugene??? Math and credibility isn’t your fucking forte is it? And change that wimpy name too if you want to be taken seriously. Eugene Motes and Ill Suck You is the same thing in YT here

[@mambamentality5875]

@@1guitar12 Ruth only played against one race of people. I mean.. come on! haha

[@steroidsR4losers]

The ROIDERS might as well put pillows under their clothes and walk around. ROIDERS are FAKES! Stay natural buddy!

[@AnthonyScarpa-er3sq]

I know alot of people don't like Barry Bonds I'm one myself but you absolutely can't take away the fact that he was by far the best Baseball Player in his Era possibly ever... Hand eye coordination has nothing to do with Steroids.. You couldn't fool Barry at the plate its like he knew what pitch was coming next

[@VaderPopsVicodin10]

True ..his plate discipline was top-tier and would usually know exactly when & what pitches to wait for.

[@ricomajestic]

Yea but bat speed and strength are enhanced by Steroids and that makes all the difference. Base hits and flyballs become homeruns once you are on the juice!

[@BestCollabX]

He was the best ballplayer I ever saw. He didn't need to juice. Tainted what was an all-time great career.

[@josephpeeler5434]

The other guys were juicing. He just leveled the playing field. He sat back for 4-years and watched inferior players pass him by and get the records and attention. I can't judge him.

[@leeboy7139]

I remember watching Bonds playing against the University of Hawaii when he was with Arizona State. He hit a ground ball so hard it went all the way to the fence in what seemed like 1 second and Hawaii is known for its large ball field. The crowd audibly gasped in awe then cheered when he ended up at third base.

[@chazzx1018]

@@josephpeeler5434 doesn't justify him doing it. Griffey and Thome accepted their limitations and didn't cheat to level competition. They were both natural power hitters. Bonds is joke

[@BestCollabX]

@@josephpeeler5434 I see it differently. He already had a HOF career when he started juicing. It's not like he had to do it to make the major leagues. You can't exonerate someone for breaking a rule just because someone else did it. By that logic, you would just forgive all of them because others did it. I also don't remember other players passing him by, which was my original point. He was still the best player in the game when he started juicing and it can be argued he was the core culprit. I remember his head doubling in size and all of the sudden he was hitting 60 to 70 home runs. Even if you want to take the position that you are not judging him because he played in the steroid era, don't ever say he was the home run champ because Ruth, Maris, etc. never were able to take steroids and they would have had a lot more too had they done so.

[@josephpeeler5434]

@@BestCollabX I don't think he is the true home run king, but there is no doubt he sat back for 4-years and watched lesser players rack up HR and RBI and MVP titles. Then there were the pitchers in that era who juiced. I am not going to act like I wouldn't have been tempted.to take steroids in his situation.

[@beardent9]

barry bonds went from being a really good hitter too an unpitchable one, you just couldn't pitch to him when it's a 3 run, 2 run or 1 run game. which is exactly why buck showalter walked him with the bases loaded in an 8-6 game

[@CarlosPena-cn8mh]

Knew how to drive a baseball, regardless of steroids

[@BeesFitness]

I agree with this statement. Berry was just a great hitter and had an eye

[@adammatthews6733]

Exactly. Why didn’t any of the other steroid players hit over 700. Hitting home runs takes talent

[@codylebleu9573]

As well as see it

[@timlampron2792]

Has there ever been a 5 year stretch in baseball where a player put up the numbers Bonds did from 2000-2004? Dude went from being arguable the best player in the game to a 5 year stretch of perhaps being the most feared hitter of all time. Steroids or not, you have to have the ability to hit/lay off pitches. He didn't just become marginally better, be became a fucking machine.

[@jorgepancho]

Pete Rose "drove" a baseball 4256 times. But without PEDs, only 160 home runs. Imagine how much driving Rose could have done juiced.

[@commanderchaos5670]

i remember going to a Mets game he hit one homer his first at bat, so they tried to intentionally walk him and he hit a homer off a intentional walk guy was just different.

[@BIIIKES]

Still the best player I’ve ever personally seen play.

[@rebirth_mishap]

me too

[@williampatterson8877]

I’ve said this for a long time. Roids or not he was the best I ever saw with my own two eyes. Can you imagine the years he lead the league in walks? Imagine if you cut that in half he may have hit close to 100 HR. Some may think that’s crazy but he walked over 200 times. That’s an extra 100 plate appearances and at the rate he was hitting HR’s there are no telling how many he would have hit. He also hit for AVG as well. I loved the roid era. Best baseball I ever watched.

[@BoleDaPole]

Has yoy seen shoelace ohtani?

[@wildcat31772]

Shame it seems you never got to see Griffey play.

[@frostywarrior4649]

@@wildcat31772 they played in the same era...

[@digginturtle9713]

He must’ve drank a lot of protein shakes!!!

[@sushi4breakfast293]

And did a lot of push ups

[@yell0wberry]

A porn star couldn’t have drank that many proteins shakes

[@osrsjeemo8151]

The difference in his stride is insane. Before steroids he would dig with his back foot and after it's just all arms.

[@johnbrennan2028]

Exactly

[@Jusbklyn79]

Still a first ballot hall of famer before the summer of 1998. All he had to do was stop before he reached Hank.

[@jamaalhorton2343]

Yep that’s what pissed people off! He should have stopped at 700

[@jdftwo1]

Hank Aaron is the home run king. He did it legally

[@Nls-nj5yw]

No he isn’t Bonds is. It technically wasn’t even illegal when he did it. And it may be obvious, but he never failed a test. He’s the home run king.

[@willdelarosa9440]

Well according to some people the babe is still the home run king...I'm leaning a little towards Dave (Kong) Kingman boy he hit some tape measures...

[@calebklingerman7902]

I’ll never accept Bonds as the title holder. Hank Aaron is the home run king and the Bambino is the best baseball player in my book. Unfortunately, my book isn’t the one that matters.

[@Nls-nj5yw]

@@calebklingerman7902 saying babe Ruth is the best baseball player of all time is a complete fucking joke. Any stud from the Dominican Republic is better than Babe Ruth lmfao.

[@steroidsR4losers]

Too bad the ROIDERS can't lift weights for size and strength! ROIDERS are FAKES! Stay natural buddy!

[@heavy7799]

Hank Aaron Babe Ruth Roger Maris...still the home run champs.

[@lemansteve]

@2:50 Tim Salmon is saying “that’s the farthest ball I’ve ever seen hit”

[@kilby714]

The longest HR Bonds ever hit travelled 491 feet. A long blast, no doubt, but babe Ruth hit 50 homers of 500 feet or more, including a 575 foot blast in Detroit that cleared the entire stadium in dead center field and landed on the roof of a taxicab that was stopped at a red light across from the stadium! And that was on beer and hot dogs!

[@johnbrennan2028]

So Tim never saw the old time sluggers . Killebrew hit balls of two stadiums and a 520 shot at met stadium . He took em to the moon clean !

[@darklordojeda]

People try to say steroids ruined baseball but I disagree. When McGwire and Sosa were neck in neck for the record TV stations would interrupt their programming just to show their at bats. If that didn't save baseball I don't know what did. The league knew that steroids were in use and said nothing until it became an issue, then they claimed ignorance and put it all on the players.

[@bentonja668]

Baseball was dying prior to McGwire/Sosa slugfest began

[@wesvirginia4611]

Steroids or no steroids, I love to watch that swing

[@steroidsR4losers]

Too bad the ROIDERS can't lift weights for size and strength! ROIDERS are FAKES! Stay natural buddy!

[@johnbrennan2028]

I'll take Griffey ,smooooth !

[@sjgambler9178]

Watching baseball as a kid and seeing him play was amazing. Another amazing thing is how much the camera quality has improved since then. I feel like I’m watching early 1980’s game play seeing this. Crazy how much technology improves so much over time !

[@Straycat733]

I agree when I first saw baseball in the 50s on a black and white set there were only two cameras one behind home plate the other in the out field. Now cameras can go right into the baseball hat to see what eye color a player has.

[@sjgambler9178]

@@Straycat733 It’s crazy what they’re able to do. I’m not sure if it makes the game better or not as those limited views made you almost look forward to seeing a particular angle.

[@Nasa-cosmonaut]

Same with Mcgwire and Sosa.. They were just unreal. Too bad Jr couldn't stay healthy.

[@r.a.tackey3230]

Yeah technology increases throughout time... except that we landed on the moon 6 times from 1969 to 1972 but now NASA claims they "lost the technology and its a painful process to build it back again." (Astronaut Don Pettit on why we haven't been back to the moon). So if you're reading this, NASA has been nothing but lies since its inception, heck most of the original scientists were stolen from NAZI Germany (see operation paperclip). Why do they lie though? They want you to believe in an endless ever-expanding universe that is completely random and that you evolved from monkeys. Basically their goal is to discredit the Bible. Sadly, their goal has been quite the success. It was only 100 years ago that biblical cosmology was taught in school, now we are teaching kids they came from rocks. Oh yeah, and Barry Bonds sure had a nice swing huh

[@clayboutin400]

I was scanning the comments to see if anyone mentioned how far his home runs went when he was on steroids compared to not being on them. When he was on steroids, he was the most feared hitter in baseball. He could hit it out of the park against your best starting, middle or relief pitcher, that's why he was walked so many times in his career. I remember having a baseball card of him when he was on the Pirates and he looked like your typical skinny 20 something year old. Compare that to his steroid years and he didn't even look like the same person.

[@tranquilo7566]

Bonds hit only 1 Home run over 450 feet till he was 38. Aaron zero. After Roids, Bonds hit 35 over 450 in a few years. Griffey and Pujols would have hit 100 hrs with roids. Ruth era; avg center field distance was 468. Ruth hit 255 over 450. 50 over 500 ft. Bonds and Aaron would have never hit a center field home run in Ruth era. 410 feet was a weak fly ball.

[@lescamp79]

he was a 2 time mvp, silver slugger, gold glove player..I heard some say it like this..he was Mike Trout prior to his "change" and then he became barry bonds after it.

[@WalkingTall-f1j]

I read one of his Steroid era HR's was 1 mile

[@fire-4-effect]

No middle-aged man looks like they did in their 20's.

[@fmbbeachbum8163]

@nflats He was'nt the best player in the league before roids. That was JR. If JR would've taken roids we would'nt be in the KZbin comments talking bout narcissitic Bonds.

[@macmiles278]

Barry did steroids because Mark Maguire was having great success. So Barry says I'm better than Mark imagine me on steroids.

[@vegasburgh2670]

While in Pittsburgh, there was a pizza delivery to Bonds house. My childhood friend delivered it and Barry surprisingly answered the door. The bill was $17 and change. Barry handed over a twenty and waited for all of the change. Once he received it, he put the coins in his pocket, dropped the two one dollar bills to the ground, and closed the door. Never liked him after hearing my friend tell the story.

[@tylerpifer6891]

Boooo hooo let’s all hate Barry bonds because his pizza was a hour late

[@will-fx7yq]

@@tylerpifer6891 fr

[@paksta]

@@tylerpifer6891 he didn't tell anybody how to feel about it. Barry just didn't like tipping for pizza or declining in his 30s I guess. Who does?

[@beejeeezy7933]

That is the biggest lie

[@ww8407]

Fake story

[@MikeC-io1sg]

His head tripled in size and he claimed to be clean. What a clown. I hope he never gets put in the HOF.

[@HK-jz5sz]

I was with the dodgers years ago and a coach told us Raul Mondesi ran a 7.1 60 yard sprint and was a slap it around guy. Then the next season he ran a 6.4 60 and was dropping bombs. (Always had a cannon though) Now Bonds was hitting 40 hr’s and stealing 40bases before steroids so it was always going to elevate him to god like numbers... and it did but he just didn’t need to.

[@kenkaplan3654]

In 12 seasons before steroids, Bonds hit 40 or more only 3 times. then from 2000 he hit 49, 73, 46, 45,45 all after the age of 36.

[@HK-jz5sz]

@@kenkaplan3654 he was a HOF shoe in before steroids

[@kenkaplan3654]

@@HK-jz5sz I could care less. He recklessly shredded the game out of monstrous ego desires. His cheating was beyond reprehensible. As were most of the others. The real sin is, as you point out, he didn't have to do it. But he looked at McGuire and others and couldn't stand it, not realizing it would catch up to them. He became a walking obscenity.

[@HK-jz5sz]

@@kenkaplan3654 I would say 50% of big leaguers were using juice during that period.

[@kenkaplan3654]

@@HK-jz5sz I don't care. You p**s all over the most sacred records in the game (Sosa and McGuire are already disgraced) while giving your finger to everyone, goodbye, see ya. Him and the damn Astros, who BB let off with nothing. Rodriguez is in a very similar position and he ain't getting in either. Ramirez is not getting in either.

[@paulboegel8009]

Unfortunately, steroids tainted the game and records. More than anything, is that many of these players got better as they aged. Which is the exact opposite of what happens to most athletes. If you have ever hurt yourself, one of the things a doctor gives you is a steroid to help you heal quickly.

[@lindseywalker6925]

He went through 4 helmet sizes.....

[@legupff]

They invented 2 of those sizes, just for him ; )

[@elementrypenguin3116]

He hit them regardless. His swing and follow through are exactly the same. ‘Roids or not the guy was a freak. Amazing.

[@BrownBrown270]

Best eye ever. Bonds should be in the HOF

[@elementrypenguin3116]

@@BrownBrown270 I agree. ‘Roids or not you still have to square up a round bat with a round ball coming at you 90+ mph.

[@johnbrennan2028]

@@elementrypenguin3116 umm their pros dummy

[@elementrypenguin3116]

@@johnbrennan2028 I’m a dummy? That’s your response? Who’s the one who’s the jackass troll here?

[@kalebdegroot7825]

@@johnbrennan2028 Exactly, and most pros couldnt do what Bonds did, roids or not. The guy was a freak.

[@MrVisde]

I remember when he showed up to Giants spring training after gaining 35lbs of muscle in 4 months. 😅 He looked like a linebacker all of a sudden. He was 37 years old too.

[@daniel-ym9un]

I remember him picking up Sammy Sosa, and carrying him over his shoulder. He was closer to 60 pounds of muscle gained in one offseason, if I recall correctly.

[@johnbrennan2028]

I know a few guys who did roids ,they have stretch marks from quick muscle gain .they went from 5 lb increments to 50

[@wildcat31772]

don't forget his head grew 3 hat sizes.

[@jonathanbaird8109]

@@wildcat31772 His massive fucking ego accounted for at least 1 size increase, I think.

[@samxyx]

Barry just wanted to make sure the little kids in the triple deck got a souvenoir. What a guy

[@brianjackson5732]

Baseball was dead. The cheaters brought back interest in a forgotten sport. Barry saw two of the biggest cheaters getting all of the praise when he was in reality the best player in baseball at the time (if not ever, seriously).

[@robertbogert8257]

You are right and he realized this when he faced mark mcgwire for the HR derby title in philly

[@jonf1767]

FACTS

[@Polack-ml9fh]

So that justifies cheating?

[@brianjackson5732]

@@Polack-ml9fh In this case, yes. MLB knew what was going on. All of a sudden, 60 home runs became easy and lead off batters started hitting 50 homers. Baseball enjoyed the fruits of the cheating to save their sport. MLB then blamed the players after turning a blind eye for years when the testing was available.

[@Joy-of-collecting]

Barry Bonds was never the best.

[@cubefarmerhkc9105]

Barry looks to be about 185 pounds his first few seasons. MVP years he was a good 220. Mark McGuire too - but he looks like he got up to about 250 from 190 pounds.

[@Wherebutcherat]

2:51 “that’s the furthest ball I’ve ever seen hit”

[@michaelturano7522]

No way in hell

[@rapid13]

That’s pretty much what Salmon said. I remember that game very well, as I do the entire series. The absolute high point of my life as a Halo fan. That ball was absolutely crushed.

[@erichvonmanstein6876]

@@rapid13 wasnt that far

[@erichvonmanstein6876]

Salmon was lying then. That s$#t was not that far

[@rapid13]

@@erichvonmanstein6876 Hey everyone, look! I found the home run expert who was obviously at the game and measured the length of the hit and knows more about baseball than a 14 year pro who played his entire career in that stadium! Your life must suck pretty badly if this is what gives you pleasure. I pity you. BTW, the estimated distance of Bond’s HR is 485ft, which makes it one of the longest in MLB history. When Tim Salmon says he’s never seen a ball hit that far, he knows what he’s talking about. You don’t. Troll.

[@dwightpatteson6052]

The same people complaining about the steroid era in baseball were the same ones praising Mcguire and Sosa for bringing baseball back from the dead. Also, steroids do NOT make you hit home runs. They do help you hit them further. You still have to have natural hand eye coordination.

[@joedunlap3226]

Actually they do help you hit hr’s. Bat speed is the key. If you already have bat speed..bigger and stronger means more bat speed. And it doesn’t increase into your upper 30’s unless….

[@ChairmanMeow1]

He didnt even need the steroids. He had the best plate discipline of any hitter I've ever seen.

[@WinstonSmith24]

Frank Thomas had the best eye at the plate I’ve ever seen, not to mention he was the ONLY slugger all throughout the 90s who was sounding the alarm about the steroid use throughout the league, and no one listened or cared. Thomas was arguably the only clean slugger of the 90s and early 2000s.

[@MRHIPHOPVEGAN]

@@WinstonSmith24 Tony Gwynn was incredible also

[@MCwalk02]

Can't prove it though

[@julianfrost4827]

@@WinstonSmith24 That's why I can t stand the roid guys. Frank Thomas and Griffey Jr. were the best players in the majors in that era and at times they were overshadowed by a bunch of roid users.

[@thetraveller334]

@@MCwalk02 Prove what? That he took steroids? It has been proved.

[@MO-np8do]

One of the only players to grow 1 inch on his head size. Came in wearing a 7 1/2. Left wearing an 8 1/2.

[@14goldmedals]

Wow I wear a 7 1/2 and it falls down to the shoulders of buddies that try on my hats. An 8 1/2 is just monster sized head!

[@MO-np8do]

@@14goldmedals Yeah I kind of feel for the players. It's not just baseball anymore. The league is telling the players to do these things in order to try to boost popularity.

[@MO-np8do]

@@14goldmedals Internet actually claims 7 1/4 to 7 3/8 on his hat. That is what is part of his court case.

[@Playboy_Pee]

That’s not it. He came in with hair and left shaven. Makes your head look a lot bigger. His head grew, but so has mine, and I don’t take steroids.

[@R8DRBeagle]

Explain Peyton Manning then

[@nealmccormick8888]

When did he start dressing like a storm trooper for his at bats?

[@Dalonghair]

Do you mean the elbow pad to protect his exposed elbow from errant pitches?

[@nealmccormick8888]

@@Dalonghair No. I mean the giant elbow pad he used so he could crowd the plate and make pitching outside impossible. Major league baseball has made the armor he wore illegal by the way.

[@Dalonghair]

@@nealmccormick8888 I’m sure you meant making pitching _inside_ impossible. I did not know MLB has disallowed the type of padding Bonds wore in this video. Do you know if it was illegal at the time of this game? To answer your original question, I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that he started wearing elbow protection after getting beaned or witnessing other batters getting their elbows injured one too many times. That’s just a wild guess.

[@roly947]

@@Dalonghair the mlb banned it because the complaint was that it kept him mechanically perfect in his swings giving an even greater advantage. Arod used one as well. He was just hated on by the writers because he wasn't media friendly. But give it to MLB to leave it up to people who never played the game to determine their worth in the HOF.

[@Dalonghair]

@@roly947 My problem with A-Rod is he used steroids throughout his career and he did so legally. It seems that he got some quack doctor to -write- say he has low testosterone levels and he used testosterone supplements, and the league let him because he put butts in the seats and made a lot of money for them. I’ve seen batters use other forms of padding to protect their exposed elbow. I didn’t know this one affected the swing and was banned. I’ve also wondered why sports writers voted on HoF candidates.

[@JeffreyBue_imtxsmoke]

I remember Bonds when he first came into the league and he used to be known as a big time threat to steal. He and KG Jr. were probably the greatest pure hitters of all time. Bonds would have been in the HOF even without juicing.

[@timpasco7025]

Yup he didn't even need to take them, could of stayed pure like KG

[@coreyshafarman8918]

He would still be a legendary baseball player if hadn’t juiced

[@timwilde4200]

Best pure hitter? I think many people would give that nod to Ted Williams, not forgetting the prime years he lost to giving service to his country.

[@chamuuemura5314]

Ted Williams was before most of our time but you’re probably right. Even in Bonds’ own generation there was Tony Gwynn who was also a good hitter. Ichiro was, too, but lacked power.

[@timwilde4200]

@@chamuuemura5314 In this day and age he's just about before EVERYONE'S time. :) His numbers are pretty mindblowing when you consider that he was the last hitter to average over .400 for a season, finished with a career batting average over.340, yet slammed 521 home runs along the way and finished with a slugging percentage second only to that of Babe Ruth. Add to that the fact he essentially lost five prime years to military service and his case is pretty solid - and I say all that as a Yankees fan! :)

[@jeffmurray1681]

RIP to the homerun king---Henry Aaron.

[@iloveconcrete1550]

Barry is the home run king

[@joesmith5159]

@@iloveconcrete1550 no hes a cheater roided out hgh monster

[@maninthemiddle55]

Hank Aaron is the home run king. And Willie Mays could’ve easily been if he hadn’t spent two years in the military and then played most of his career in Candlestick Park -- a meat locker where home runs went to die. Willie Mays and Babe Ruth are the best two ball players ever.

[@adamdavis5312]

Willie Mays was the best all around player of all time. He could literally do anything .. And I can’t stand the giants.

[@maninthemiddle55]

@@adamdavis5312 Agreed. And the other thing about Willie that isn’t captured by any record book is that he was a clutch player. Need a 3-run HR with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th? Willie Mays was practically automatic: HR, regardless of the conditions or circumstances. Giants win if Willie is at the plate.

[@brandonduhon1933]

He is a hall of famer w/o steroids

[@johnbrennan2028]

Unfortunately not Cletus

[@hardyworld]

Regardless of steroid use, hitting a baseball is one of the hardest things to do in sport and at his peak he was a threat at the plate like no other player that has ever played the game. It was amazing to watch him hit. I can't imagine another player getting to that level of play again.

[@teller1290]

He was a fraud. His pop ups were going 450-ft. The shift started for the first time since Ted Williams because of him. He ballooned to 230-lbs in one off -season.

[@ibuprofenPill]

True, but how many of those home runs would have been pop-flys had he not been juicing?

[@teller1290]

@@ibuprofenPill lots. I personally watched him at then Pac Bell Park routinely hit pop homer after pop homer in '03, '04. It was a joke. The body language of the pitchers he faced, after such a HR, said it all. In the early days of PacBell Park, they used to have a HR count board in right field there that kept track of how many HRs that were hit over the right field wall made it, in the air, into SF Bay (pretty close behind the r. field wall there). They had people in small craft who'd miss the game just to be in position to retrieve a homer. I was told repeatedly that Bonds was personally responsible for over half of balls that hit the water on the fly. In '04, at 42, I gave up my lifetime passion for MLB. I did this because of that d-head destroying the history of the game with his "clear" and "gold" pharmaceuticals. Of course, there were others. They all got away with it and baseball just moved on. Not good enough.

[@Duck_Dodgers]

He was barely making it over fence then in old age knocking them OUT! Bobble head Barry bonds is a joke. Great player before a joke afterwards they knew all these guys where on roids just put one in hof not long ago Ortiz

[@dickhitswater4836]

Huge difference in making contact and going yard. He was always great at making contact which helped him go yard after the roids

[@SchmidtyVids]

same swing, same timing, same eye for the zone. only things steroids helped was for longevity, and power. a homer is a homer no matter how far it goes over the wall. best hitter I ever watched.

[@michaelcarman5216]

steroids do not manufacture skill. all of this stupid controversy seems to presuppose this

[@cgk1276]

Steroids help with contact, reaction time, and swing speed lol they affect a lot more than power. And power matter when it comes to turning pop flies into home runs.

[@jeremylanier4743]

Glad I got to see him play. Regardless of the PEDs he had overwhelming plate vision and pitch judgement.

[@Burg_38]

Best hitter of all time

[@bigc2626]

And yet when he was chasing McGwire’s record in 2001, no decision maker in MLB said anything. Just like they didn’t say anything when McGwire was chasing Maris’ record in ‘98. They’re just as bad if not worse than the players. And now they get denied the HOF. Sickening. McGwire especially deserves a lot of credit for bringing glory back to baseball since they were reeling from the strike in ‘94.

[@larimerbixby4853]

u r an imbecile.

[@russs7574]

Oh absolutely....Bud Selig was their enabler. But HE's in the Hall of Fame. What a (Quack)ing hypocrite.

[@davisbelas3516]

Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa too, their builds changed drastically.

[@michaelknapp8961]

In my opinion Roger Maris’ record is still valid. He wasn’t juiced!! Mcquire, Bonds, l

[@surferguy1974]

Don't forget Sosa!

[@timdailey2690]

@@surferguy1974 Sosa had a corked bat too

[@jshin8531]

Being “juiced” doesn’t make you hit the ball. In addition, hand eye coordination is what he had. There are other factors, as well.

[@michaelknapp8961]

@@jshin8531 ok. I here ya but it does give you an advantage. Look at pictures of Mcquire on steroids and Mcquire after steroids. He was a monster. After steroids he so much smaller. Your right though, it’s also eye hand coordination to hit home runs.

[@jshin8531]

@@michaelknapp8961 definitely think there should be a ** for bonds and bigmac... Griffey Jr was my favorite growing up to watch.