Base Model M4 Mac Mini - 1 Month Later...

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Patrick Rambles

Patrick Rambles

Күн бұрын

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@bavideomaker29
@bavideomaker29 7 күн бұрын
The lifecycle of tech gear KZbin: Step 1. Make video(s) about the rumors of new (Apple) products. Step 2. Make video(s) about the announcement, specs, etc. Step 3. Make video(s) about what you bought, benchmarks, "real world" testing, how great it is, etc. Step 4. Make the "Oh no...I made a mistake!" video.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Except I didn't make a mistake. Plot twist.
@SlangstonHuge
@SlangstonHuge 7 күн бұрын
@@PatrickRambles Just misleading .you just made the same video 3 times
@man-bagdammit2297
@man-bagdammit2297 7 күн бұрын
@@PatrickRamblesHe is right though! You guys all do the same thing!
@SadfoxGuyver
@SadfoxGuyver 7 күн бұрын
@@PatrickRamblesspoiler
@jayd6098
@jayd6098 7 күн бұрын
@@PatrickRambles You are falling in the same circle.
@weholmes5315
@weholmes5315 7 күн бұрын
Me too! Got the base model for $500 and added a 4TB NVME in an external thunderbolt enclosure for $300. I'm completely satisfied! 😊
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Nice!
@jayemery
@jayemery 7 күн бұрын
I did the same!
@razuharajab7744
@razuharajab7744 6 күн бұрын
What brand?
@weholmes5315
@weholmes5315 6 күн бұрын
@@razuharajab77444TB Crucial P3 Plus and Acasis TBU405 with a cooling fan controlled by a switch. Super combo for around $330 Prime Day deals.
@franciscodiaz5778
@franciscodiaz5778 5 күн бұрын
Hi, and which monitor dis you buy for your Mac mini M4 base model? a US$ 1600 Studio Display?
@josephnorris4095
@josephnorris4095 7 күн бұрын
I enjoyed the Base model Mac Mini but when I tried out the M4 Pro Mac Mini, I was blown away and ending up keeping that. I got it for $1199 and it is worth it.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Nice!
@andrewcrossley2448
@andrewcrossley2448 5 күн бұрын
The tech guy at my local Apple Store and I went through what I needed to do on the mini. I have a studio nano display a 4K Dell Pro Display and great Logitech MX keyboard and mouse. My use case list went: 4/6k+ pro log videos from Fuji and Canon cameras; photo editing from 80mb RAW files from same cameras; engineering modelling (fusion and autocad); and advanced audio music mixing from multiple mic sources. He said minimum 24gb ram or 48gb if I needed multi tasking and fast rendering (I don’t really need that..I can have a coffee break!), min 512 SSD (as it’s a faster drive) on the mini pro and possibly the upgraded connection for fibre if working with online tools like iCloud and OneDrive. This was professional advice from Apple and not an upsell, as he then said use a high quality T4 or even T5 2Tb external drive for backup and keeping the main machine hard drive clear and in peak performance. So this looks rather like PR’s conclusions. Luckily I’m in education so get a small discount. As the sales guy said to me ‘if you are using £6 to 8k of source gear (cameras and mixing desks etc) the mini pro is a sensible investment that will last years.’ I asked him about going the MacBook Pro route and he said if I’m using a pair of great monitors and speakers and sitting T a desk most of the time, a Mac mini is a better long term proposition as the battery life replacement cost/wear and far more expensive Apple Care would add substantially to the lifecycle cost. Just honest and professional advice which was great to get.
@BlaqViper
@BlaqViper 7 күн бұрын
Thank you! I was starting to feel I overspent for the base model M4 Pro Mini. The extra hardware headroom now makes me a bit more comfortable for whatever OS and app updates may throw at it over the next years. I did opt for the 10Gbps ethernet since I have a 10Gbps switch and 2Gbps service. What video light are you using for video calls? Thanks again Patrick.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
It's a elgato keylight air. But I'm cheating because there is a studio light with a big softbox on my other side.
@BlaqViper
@BlaqViper 7 күн бұрын
@ Ahhhh, so the elgato is more product placement than functional for this video…🤣😂🤣😂
@zachwarner7164
@zachwarner7164 7 күн бұрын
its funny cause this is actually the best purchase I have ever made. gaming rig has a 7800x3d/4090 and this fills in every gap. Triple monitor, 5k/2k/2k Caldigit dock makes this complete.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Yep. You're that perfect demographic.
@zachwarner7164
@zachwarner7164 7 күн бұрын
@@PatrickRambles coming from 9 fans, its bizzare that this thing has never made a noise.
@BlackhawkPilot
@BlackhawkPilot 6 күн бұрын
For those of us who are still using Macs with Intel that will soon no longer be supported this is a great deal for our daily use.
@eatrun_mike0512
@eatrun_mike0512 7 күн бұрын
I agree that the Mac Mini M4 Pro is the best one to get. Places like Reddit are filled with 20-year-olds and tech wizards who can fiddle around with macOS and make 256 GB storage ok. I'm not one of them.
@bemacbe
@bemacbe 7 күн бұрын
I have no regrets at all. I got my base M4 Mac mini the day it came out. Sometimes after I buy a new Mac (the MacBook Pro M1 Max was my last), I dread thinking about how much value it will lose. My MacBook lost about $1k for each of the past two years. With the Mac mini, well… I can sit back and relax! Ahhh…
@robertt9342
@robertt9342 6 күн бұрын
Mac hood their value better than PCs, I think the Apple silicon has caused a bit of accelerated downward pressure.
@Mozi2380
@Mozi2380 7 күн бұрын
Upgraded to 512/32 its not a steal anymore but I want to keep the Mini at least for 7-8 years.
@willm5032
@willm5032 7 күн бұрын
Yeah same, I bought the m2 pro and added 32gb ram and 512gb (studio wasn't out at the time or id have had one of them) but I want to keep that machine for at least 5 years. I paid for it with a design job and its made more money on top so whilst i really resent the upgrade pricing I do enjoy the mac mini as a computer.
@JamesBond-fo6ow
@JamesBond-fo6ow 6 күн бұрын
Why would you want/need to do that? for 7-8 years? Get the $500 base model. Go to your bank app on your phone, setup an automatic $10 transfer to your savings for every Friday morning. Average time between mini models, 700 days = 100 weeks = $1000 saved. Sell the base M4 for $300 = enough for a M5 Pro.
@mistermastermind528
@mistermastermind528 6 күн бұрын
​@@JamesBond-fo6ow Yeah. Future-proofing is a questionable concept.
@JamesBond-fo6ow
@JamesBond-fo6ow 6 күн бұрын
@@mistermastermind528 in this use case, yep. IF you don't NEED more than 16/256 today say you are coming from an older basic intel mac... then getting it for "3 years from now" is throwing $$ away. Just save up for a new mac in 3 years from now.
@bryans8656
@bryans8656 7 күн бұрын
Not a mistake as far as I'm concerned. I've had my base M4 mini for a month now and it's been perfect for my needs. I already had a 2TB external drive, 4K monitor, keyboard, mouse, and USB A hub that I was using with my MacBook Pro so I was set. Now that I'm retired and not doing the business travel I considered trading in my MBP but decided against it, I'll still want a laptop for pleasure travel.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
MacBook air? 👀
@bryans8656
@bryans8656 7 күн бұрын
@@PatrickRambles Better for travel and worth considering.
@bryans8656
@bryans8656 7 күн бұрын
@@PatrickRambles Nah, going to hang on to the MBP. It's the M3 Pro MBP 14 so it still has a lot of life (and power) left in it.
@jonjohnson2844
@jonjohnson2844 6 күн бұрын
It's not just the best value Mac, it's probably the best value computer at the moment.
@IainNitro
@IainNitro 7 күн бұрын
I am very happy with mine. I bought it to replace my base model M1 model and bought the "mid" level model with 24GB / 512GB. Thanks for the video.
@DonPeppinoXLV
@DonPeppinoXLV 7 күн бұрын
Great video once again!! But I have one question- do you think Mac Studio M2 Max is still worth it if you do multitasking, Photoshop, bunch of tabs open and some Lightroom? Or spend a little bit more and buy MacBook M4 Pro?
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Yes, absolutely, that machine is still a beast
@DonPeppinoXLV
@DonPeppinoXLV 7 күн бұрын
So…. to buy a Mac Studio M2 Max (coz M2 Ultra is still almost $5K). Or… option two: I should wait until March, so I can get Mac Studio with M4 Max or M4 Ultra. I’ll be happy if you give me your opinion. Thanks 🙏🏻
@JacobBall75
@JacobBall75 3 күн бұрын
@DonPeppinoXLVIf you can wait until March or April next year, I’d definitely suggest doing that, as you’ll get a much better machine for the longer term, for the same money. Patience will be your friend!
@DonPeppinoXLV
@DonPeppinoXLV 3 күн бұрын
@ That’s what I will do.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 3 күн бұрын
Yes definitely wait if you can. You can either buy a better machine or get that M2 Max at en even better deal.
@JerryDoe
@JerryDoe 7 күн бұрын
It outperformed my desktop gaming PC in some games and had similar or same FPS + details in other games, and you know what is shocking ? it only uses around 30 watts vs my gaming PC 500 watts. I purchased a Thunderbolt SSD enclosure and SSD to expand my storage, best investment ever. Because i already owned a Macbook, iPhone, AirPods, Apple Watch etc... my ecosystem is complete and don't regret anything. The last 2 days i was backing up files from my windows pc and ran into lots of trouble, unwanted updates/restarts, crashes, microsoft advertisements etc... Man im so glad im ditching everything from Microsoft !
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
It's try about the updates and crashes. I built a pretty sick gaming rig last year and I love it to bits for gaming. But there's always something... Macs just do what they do and almost never fail
@TheTrafficBoss
@TheTrafficBoss 6 күн бұрын
Man what chair is that and is it as comfy as it looks? I was checking the products in you description but dont see it.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 6 күн бұрын
It is a Herman Miller Sayl. It's the first chair I can sit in for hours without pain. They're not cheap but worth the investment.
@MapleBR
@MapleBR 4 күн бұрын
where did you buy that mac pro mini enclosure? it is awesome
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 3 күн бұрын
It was 3D printed! But I'll be doing a best Mac Mini accessories video soon, featuring a production model 🔥
@Miqqo90
@Miqqo90 7 күн бұрын
I have the base model as a browsing and media consumption device as I don't want to run my RTX 4090 desktop for this. Works perfectly fine for this. Gaming is done on other devices. I have a monitor with a KVM so it's rather easy to switch between devices.
@john_hind
@john_hind 7 күн бұрын
Still not really clear if I have the budget for a base spec M4 Pro (512GB/24GB) am better getting that or speccing up a non-pro with 1TB/32GB for the same money?
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Pro.
@john_hind
@john_hind 7 күн бұрын
@@PatrickRambles You almost convinced me of the opposite since the only real downside identified was running out of RAM and the consequent use of a swap file in the limited SSD. Suggests that maxing the RAM might be better use of the money, painful though Apple's price gouging makes it! I'd probably stop at 512GB on the SSD though, and spend the $200 on external SSD. Apple certainly makes these choices hard by offering far too many options!
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Yes but you need to also consider the faster chip, more cores, etc. It's not just RAM and storage. And thunderbolt 5
@franciscodiaz5778
@franciscodiaz5778 5 күн бұрын
Here's my questions: For web browsing, Microsoft 365 (Excel, Word, etc,) KZbin, Netflix, what Mac Mini do you recommend me? and what monitor for the Mac Mini? I don't want to change the Mac Mini in 2-3 years, I want that it last much longer, so I need some future proof advice. Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 5 күн бұрын
Absolutely no need to upgrade from the base model for that.
@baimun
@baimun 7 күн бұрын
Going to use the one I ordered for Music Production so I got the M4 Pro 14/20 with 64gig of ram and 1Tb of OS storage knowing a) I'm going to use several multi-terabyte external storage devices for recording and sample libraries and b) Even though those upgrades raise the price pretty quickly, I don't plan on replacing this device for a while so an extra couple hundred bucks now can save a recording from failing and keep the hardware useful for much longer. (But it's still almost half what that performance would have cost from a Mac Studio a year ago!) ☮💜🎶
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Yes! 🤘
@anthonycraig274
@anthonycraig274 7 күн бұрын
This is a great review. Hits every point around the base model.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏻
@digitalhen
@digitalhen 7 күн бұрын
I have one sitting on my desk. Still sealed in its box. Paid $475 for it. It’s the best price you can possibly get. Should I open it?
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
100%
@pokedukety
@pokedukety 3 күн бұрын
HAPPY 190k 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 3 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@nomad4x
@nomad4x 6 күн бұрын
I've been using my Mac Mini for three weeks now, mostly for coding and working with local LLMs. I really wish upgrading the RAM wasn't as expensive as Apple makes it. Using an external SSD is an absolute must! I'm still debating whether the $1,399 or $1,299(student discount) price tag is worth it for the Pro model with 24GB of RAM and a 512GB SSD. I'll find out soon, though, as I'm upgrading my M2 Pro MacBook Pro to an M4 Max MacBook Pro. Great video, by the way!
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 6 күн бұрын
🙏🏻
@GaryCantrell
@GaryCantrell 5 күн бұрын
Zero regrets for me with the base model. I edit primarily vertical short form content which isn’t too heavy of a load for it but I also have my M3 Pro MBP which I use for the heavy stuff. I really wanted it more as a backup and doing emails and other admin stuff. Only thing I changed was adding 10 gigabit Ethernet to connect to my NAS.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 5 күн бұрын
That is 100 bucks well spent imo.
@kennedygolfhead4356
@kennedygolfhead4356 3 күн бұрын
I really enjoy your vidoe!! Can you please test remote access to the MacMini from outside your home network using its built-in remote control capabilities? I'd love to know how well it works. Thank you!!!
@gregorybolivar5712
@gregorybolivar5712 3 күн бұрын
Exactly... As a 2D / 3D modeling Designers... Minimum internal storage 1tb...SsD.. Gamers 2tb to 4tb +...
@warehousing2953
@warehousing2953 6 күн бұрын
Apple is cunning about this, all tech-savvy people will need to do upgrade, before you know, a little upgrade (32GB ram and 500GB SSD) will be cost of buying 2 base model xO
@stephenvalente3296
@stephenvalente3296 6 күн бұрын
Yes, that's the where any upgrades causes a problem. If I don't get the M4 Pro variant, think I'd get the 24Gb/512Gb model at £899 via the Education Store. Would prefer the more conventional sounding 32GB model, but getting close to the price of the Pro, and for an extra £200, I'd pay for Final Cut Pro/Logic Studio instead. Have a Mac Studio M1 Max, and from watching reviews, think it still does a good job from an encoding point of view. The Mac Mini M4 would be for portable usage, somewhere else in the house usage, etc. whereas the Studio stays in my Home Office.
@TheTrafficBoss
@TheTrafficBoss 6 күн бұрын
I bought the $999 Base with 24GB and 512 SSD. No regrets, it's still an amazing value and future proof for a long time.
@sid_sogrey
@sid_sogrey 6 күн бұрын
regardless of how it is for others , coming from a late 2013 imac , this was a massive upgrade
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 6 күн бұрын
I bet!
@inwedavid6919
@inwedavid6919 7 күн бұрын
Yes you can do it on a PC, every day, the things is that a PC has ne need for thunderbolt as PC has internal high speed PCI slots a lot faster than any thunderbolt port and a lot of SATA port that allow a ton of Gigs what no mac can do. It is why you neet thunderbolts ports. There is a lot of Ryzen computer with gforce, laptop at the price of the mini and if you just move memory a bit, any PC in term of price explode the M4 by a very large margin.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Of course you can build a better PC. But you can't build a better PC for that price and that size.
@inwedavid6919
@inwedavid6919 7 күн бұрын
@@PatrickRambles let's chet ETA prime chanel, you will discover a lot of mini PC, hundread since years that are either smaller and faster, from Alienware alpha (smaller than the mac Mini I5/ M1) to Intel NUC and all competitors/clones. Since the age of Shuttle PC a lot of PC were either faster and smaller, the only reason of the big tower is expandability and low price. In PC world every one as a Mac pro tower with a lot of PCI port, expandability and place for fast hard drive. And the power button with the touch Id is not under the computer?????? kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIKolHuFiqyHnrM
@rtacher
@rtacher 7 күн бұрын
Right on Patrick. I created a desk setup with my Mac Mini also. I Ned to get a switch or something along those lines as I use the same two monitors for all my setups including the laptop
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Yeah KVM switch would fix that.
@matt_kelly
@matt_kelly 6 күн бұрын
PolySoft should be releasing an SSD upgrade kit soon at a fraction of the cost, which will be nice. But the ram would still be an issue, which is a bummer.
@mattmedium2388
@mattmedium2388 7 күн бұрын
I like that it has internal power supply instead of having a brick outside. But that power button on the bottom is a no go for me. Tech is always moving fast. I'll wait til next week when they put the power button on the back of the unit.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
😂
@tonyburzio4107
@tonyburzio4107 7 күн бұрын
Why would you turn off your computer? My Mac only gets power on when there's been a power failure.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
@tonyburzio4107 same.
@mattmedium2388
@mattmedium2388 6 күн бұрын
@@tonyburzio4107 I understand that. But it just seems like it cheapens it a bit. Reminds of products years ago when they didn't have a power button at all. You would have to just plug it the wall.
@RonMarcus
@RonMarcus 7 күн бұрын
Fair review. At the same time, I am not sure how realistic it is to run with 40 Chrome open tabs running 40 videos simultaneously. Also, I got one with the base 16GB of RAM (same as my workhorse M1 MacBook Air from 2020) but upgraded to the 512 GB SSD (a faster drive, plus the convenience of having it built-in) for the extra $200, bringing the total cost to $800, still very affordable and still $600 less than the binned M4 Pro Mac Mini. My config tears through video considerably faster than the M1 Air and is plenty fast enough for more modest, yet still professional video needs. I couldn’t be happier.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Oh yes of course it will run circles around the M1 air. Yes sure, nobody runs 40 videos. But it's the easiest way to emulate busy browser windows.
@edwardking229
@edwardking229 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for the additional detail. This should work for our cancer support group
@mistermarathon2046
@mistermarathon2046 6 күн бұрын
For what I use my Mac mini for, the base model for me has been perfect. I love it and the value is totally worth it.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 6 күн бұрын
Awesome!
@pnwdrifter5680
@pnwdrifter5680 7 күн бұрын
the base is best because upgrades are crazy expensive. However, base has to work for you. Base plus a larger external home drive could be a good option. However, externals often don't have the same speed of internals.....
@pnwdrifter5680
@pnwdrifter5680 7 күн бұрын
That being said, my m2pro with 2TB internal gets 5000+ on BlackMagic. No external comes close to that yet.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
@pnwdrifter5680 OWC envoy ultra does, on the TB5 ports of the M4 Pro Mac Mini.
@pnwdrifter5680
@pnwdrifter5680 7 күн бұрын
@@PatrickRambles Thanks for replying. So that's great, but... you have to buy the pro to get TB5. what SSD was inside the envoy ultra?
@pnwdrifter5680
@pnwdrifter5680 7 күн бұрын
looked on the OWC site, and DIY doesn't look like an option. Thanks again!
@ackerman7857
@ackerman7857 6 күн бұрын
Please a make a video on how to make MaC Mini portable. Idea :I need to carry Mac mini, a wireless keyboard and mouse (compact one), 2 cables(1 for power source and one Hdmi, or type c to type c cable for Monitor), and a portable monitor (costs around 140$). All these Things can easily be fit in a bag. And it would just take 2-3 minutes to set it up in the college and lecture hall. Anybody who have an IPAD doesn't need a portable Monitor.. but please make a video with a Portable monitor. Thankyou!
@Zeta-Artists
@Zeta-Artists 5 күн бұрын
Use softwares like spacedesk and your mobile phone for a portable monitor in emergency situations and get a good 27" monitor for daily use. This is a good Setup
@ackerman7857
@ackerman7857 5 күн бұрын
@Zeta-Artists Yeah but Phone would be too small 🫠
@Zeta-Artists
@Zeta-Artists 5 күн бұрын
@@ackerman7857 😅😅 yes thoo
@SteveHinrichs
@SteveHinrichs 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for the follow up. I thought when you going through who the base model was for you would have said Steve. 😂🤣 Thanks again.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
😂
@markwilliamson9199
@markwilliamson9199 6 күн бұрын
In Australia the base mini is $999 AUD. given our low dollar buying parts from South East Asia you can match it
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 6 күн бұрын
List them! 😁
@christophery8927
@christophery8927 7 күн бұрын
If one has two screens and needs the power, people can buy 2 base Mac mini and this run different tasks. Then you will have two m4 and 32gb between them both and x2 25gb storage. Sure it uses twice the power but it so low powered anyway! And pro users will have way to link back to the data through iCloud or a NAS
@lgdneuro9586
@lgdneuro9586 6 күн бұрын
well i got the 24gb 500gb M4 Mini for 850$ in a Amazon promo...... so for me that was a very good value....bit expensive for 250gb and 8gb more ram but think in the long run will be worth it.
@cghoward70
@cghoward70 6 күн бұрын
I have the 512GB on order for $744. OK with paying that. When a third-party comes out with SSD cards, like the Studio, I’ll go to 2TB or more.
@ractsninjas
@ractsninjas 7 күн бұрын
I want to do a podcast and transfer old videos to my computer/external hard drive. Maybe once in a while I edit a simple video. Is this still a good buy for that?
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Absolutely.
@shubhampalange
@shubhampalange 7 күн бұрын
Which specific External SSD was getting you 5000 read and write speed??
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
The new OWC envoy ultra
@JWDigitalArchiving
@JWDigitalArchiving 6 күн бұрын
You realize the base M4 Mini barely hits 3000...
@shubhampalange
@shubhampalange 6 күн бұрын
I saw a couple videos testing external SSDs going beyond 4000 on the base M4 with 512 storage. Don't understand why there's that difference.
@maximilianschwab9668
@maximilianschwab9668 6 күн бұрын
I still possess a Mac Mini M2 Pro, bought a 2 TB NVMe to it, for several years that Macintosh is gonna stay in my living room. I have a iMac 2017 I'll sell and buy a Mac Mini M4 Pro with 32GB RAM and 512 GB SSD, I'll use it for phtography and other tasks.
@graphguy
@graphguy 7 күн бұрын
The mistake is not knowing what your needs are, not with the M4, it is stellar.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Kind of what I concluded.
@graphguy
@graphguy 7 күн бұрын
@ 😁
@tilljanek
@tilljanek 7 күн бұрын
I would use the basic version with an external ssd to build websites with Figma and webflow. I also want to use after effects animations, edit pictures with photoshop and cut 4k video. currently I can do this perfectly on my 512gb m2 macbook air. is the basic m4 mini version with an external ssd even better?
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
I'm a little surprised you can run after effects on your air. Does that not give you any trouble?
@Historyisnotwas
@Historyisnotwas 6 күн бұрын
Here's a random question: Would the base 16Gb be sufficient for for music notation / music composing programs like MuseScore or Dorico?
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 5 күн бұрын
Hey man, not sure. I'm unfamiliar with those programs so I don't know their requirements.
@mpetrides
@mpetrides 6 күн бұрын
This was a great, balanced summary of the pros and cons of the base model M4 Mac mini-especially since you ended with the use case that justified your keeping yours. Thanks! FWIW, all this talk about how powerful/versatile the base model Mac mini is has got me seriously considering upgrading my 16” M1 Pro MBP to an M4 Pro MBP before the Trump tariffs kick in. Not that I need the power boost right now but that I really don’t want to pay an extra 20+ % once the Orange Menace implements his tariffs, which he has promised for Day One (Jan 20, 2025).
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 6 күн бұрын
😂
@tezz7523
@tezz7523 5 күн бұрын
hay! im a stock trader, and doing heavy web browsing tab , so base model sufficient for me ??
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 5 күн бұрын
Hey, I'd say it is. But it's worth asking Tausif Hussain. He does a bit of trading so he'll know better than I do.
@MrGabrielgn
@MrGabrielgn 7 күн бұрын
I can upgrade my Mac OS device on a budget. It is a Hackintosh.
@zachwarner7164
@zachwarner7164 7 күн бұрын
no one points out that the base m4 has the highest clock speed of the entire lineup. For those office users, its actually the best performing machine.
@MRVSKIN
@MRVSKIN 7 күн бұрын
Hoping Santa sends me one got 4 tb external storage so base one is fine. Got portable monitor and fold out keyboard and track pad so should be a great little set up. 40 chrome tabes open at the same time. Nightmare vision. Great video. Up front and straight to the point
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
🙏🏻🙏🏻
@DarrellChat
@DarrellChat 7 күн бұрын
I feel like my MacBook mini m4 pro gets quite warm during 4k export in final cut. Also the audio lags during edit and I have it specked up
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Audio lags? Can't really chalk that up to computer performance though.
@ttttiiimmy10bit
@ttttiiimmy10bit 7 күн бұрын
i got base model with 24gb ram. happy.
@JedEckert
@JedEckert 7 күн бұрын
Same here.
@Arthur-vp8vk
@Arthur-vp8vk 7 күн бұрын
You left out us clip studio and affinity users, the m4 mac mini is perfect.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
I bet I left out a lot more, can't really mention every single user.
@The_Cali_Dude_88
@The_Cali_Dude_88 6 күн бұрын
Why buy the base? Your already behind the curve. If your buying one get the highest end. If storage is a issue, buy outside storage ❤
@akin242002
@akin242002 7 күн бұрын
Best use case for the M4 base model (including external storage): - General web users. Blue collar workers or kids. - MacOS friendly offices where they use G-Suite of products. Especially highly funded startups. - Freelance photographers on a tight budget.
@JamesBond-fo6ow
@JamesBond-fo6ow 7 күн бұрын
Based on what data? What do you with your M4? Have you even used a M series mac? We have a house full of M1s. 3 base MBAs and a 16/256 mini. MBA are with high schoolers & college kids. Mini is with white collar WFH wife, VPN to work PC, multiple zooms.all day, all the Office, dozens and dozens of tabs, twin 27" screens, more Im sure Im forgetting... never a problem with any. I highly doubt if any of them have ever been turned off since the day they were turn on. Especially the kid's MBAs. Restarts for OS upgrades, sure. No one has complained.
@akin242002
@akin242002 6 күн бұрын
@@JamesBond-fo6ow Getting a bit hyper defensive there with that rant. I posted who gets the most out of it, not can it be used anywhere nor is it bad. Based on IT use cases of mini-PCs and where Mac Mini get used the most often. FAANG companies and highly VC funded startups get the most use of Mac Minis. My wife uses a MacBook Air for personal needs and logins into work from her company provided M1 MacBook Pro 14-inch laptop at home. The Mac Mini wouldn't be any different except for the rare times she has to come into the office. She was part of a startup. Older boomer tech companies and financial firms nowhere near as much. Usually, HP Elitedesk/Dell Optiplex/Intel Nucs get used the most often for small mom & pop companies without VC funding or non-tech focused industries. The primary reason is they are in a Windows heavy ecosystem. It makes more sense to use Windows mini-PCs for apps/software like Power BI or Solidworks. Also, easier for technicians to change/upgrade SSD storage and control hardware via vPro.
@tendosingh5682
@tendosingh5682 7 күн бұрын
Using ram is not the same as stress testing ram.
@AlexDiazVideo
@AlexDiazVideo 7 күн бұрын
Haha I caught the Mark Ellis Easter egg!
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Nice one 😂
@Smittron
@Smittron 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. A 16/512 configuration for $599 would convince me to buy.
@BMB1990
@BMB1990 7 күн бұрын
Nice one!
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
🙏🏻
@elvinsamjohnson7477
@elvinsamjohnson7477 7 күн бұрын
if i wanna run a vm, which ssd would you recommend.
@GenjoKoan75
@GenjoKoan75 6 күн бұрын
An inexpensive solution is to have multiple accounts on one laptop. Use one for the day job and another for KZbin.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 6 күн бұрын
How does that solve anything? I'd still have to bring my computer back and forth between house and studio. Separating accounts is not the point.
@MarkBurdickPhD
@MarkBurdickPhD 3 күн бұрын
Patrick -rambling man- where’s the Apple Watch? Back to the States to pick up M4 mini along with other device upgrades. Then off to Ibiza to RUMBLE
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 3 күн бұрын
It's in my gym bag, waiting patiently 😇
@MarkBurdickPhD
@MarkBurdickPhD 3 күн бұрын
@ Ok. I don’t invite just anyone to my finca on Ibiza. Seriously, how about we do one collaboratively around Applesphere - back to the core?
@carlosjve22
@carlosjve22 6 күн бұрын
Sigo sin entender porqué no hacen pruebas reales en Premiere Pro.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 5 күн бұрын
Because a lot Mac users prefer using Final Cut Pro. It works better on Mac.
@syleishere
@syleishere 4 күн бұрын
It's not bad, I also have windows 11 with an old ryzen 5950x chip, I switch between the 2 with a KVM switch. I find windows PC faster, but I use both
@The_Cali_Dude_88
@The_Cali_Dude_88 6 күн бұрын
Me going full bore all in top tier, except two terabytes of storage.❤
@touchtennis
@touchtennis 7 күн бұрын
“I said what I said” 😂
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
😂
@Visdemhvemduer
@Visdemhvemduer 7 күн бұрын
What are the chances that you would forget à MacBook at home but have a full set of working Mac mini setup on a go 😂😂😂
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
I meant on my way to the studio 😂
@billclay2701
@billclay2701 6 күн бұрын
I don't get how Apple finesses its base with those base specs then charge a ransom to flesh it out to modern day specs. And you have to be Doctor Who to swap that SSD lol. THe M chips are truly amazing but they are tethered to a company who does deep psychological research on just how gullible their buying base really is. Yuck. And I'm a iphone and Ipad user before this comes off as hate.
@TechnoBoomer
@TechnoBoomer 6 күн бұрын
J'avais acheté un Mac mini M2 et j'ai été assez déçu pour les mêmes raison. Total, je vais prendre un Mac mini M4 pro
@je369
@je369 7 күн бұрын
Wrong, n no base module no longer works because the pro will give you more. Mac mini Pro are the best and lost the memory 64 GB and storage about 512 GB or 2 TB .❤❤❤❤🎉😂😅😊
@PHBEIN
@PHBEIN 7 күн бұрын
Be happy you can get this for 599 dollar... In my country, and be8ng in europe it's 719 euro which is 759 dollars!!! 160 dollars more then you guys pay over there... really sad honestly
@PHBEIN
@PHBEIN 7 күн бұрын
And the pro model is 1761 dollars over here... 1669 euro.. for the BASE model
@Phony-baloney8
@Phony-baloney8 7 күн бұрын
Who has 40 tabs open with videos running all at once?
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Nobody. It's a stress test to emulate busy browser windows.
@keenobservations3050
@keenobservations3050 7 күн бұрын
I turned off my AI for the base model as I have it on my phone. And I’m sure with it turned off it will use less resources. IMO
@umanoid1523
@umanoid1523 6 күн бұрын
I wish you guys would stop saying it’s the best value. Apple prices these things at a cheap price in a useless state. They finally raised the ram but kept the HD at an anti consumer and useless size. It might be ok if all you do is read email and surf the web but who is that these days? So you will either have to pay the apple tax to upgrade the Hd to something you can use or you have to but an external drive which still adds to the cost. It’s a bit of a bait and switch.
@fr3d10
@fr3d10 6 күн бұрын
256go is a joke SSD slower than a Mac mini M1 is a joke too No SD card slot is a joke
@AlexDiazVideo
@AlexDiazVideo 7 күн бұрын
Can I convince you to buy one more Mac mini? I really want to see a comparison between the $999 upgraded Mac mini vs the $1399 Mac mini pro
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
LOL I'm broke.
@mlhm5
@mlhm5 7 күн бұрын
LOL! No base model is no deal.
@akash-kumar737
@akash-kumar737 7 күн бұрын
I got damaged Mac mini 😢 retured it and got refund after 16 days
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Ah man that sucks.
@ps3301
@ps3301 3 күн бұрын
No wifi 7 and thunderbolt 5!!
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 3 күн бұрын
599
@jakechung8951
@jakechung8951 6 күн бұрын
Apple like to fish their customers, put a small fish on the fishing rods and catch a bigger fish.
@sativagirl1885
@sativagirl1885 6 күн бұрын
buyer's remorse is like voting for the EVIL EMPIRE. Always invest in the EXTENDED WARRANTY.
@rtoledo2
@rtoledo2 6 күн бұрын
IF , I had the ability :) to use AI to analyze all Mac Reviewers , it would probably show that 99% of reviewers always go for film editing, most " normal " people don't do what youtube creators do. but that aside 16gb is just useless as you proved. I bought my wife Macbook one 5 or so years ago (intel), I figured she likes the Iphone and Apple loves to force their user to ONLY use their products to do 2 factor . Every time she needs help I get so frustrated with the incessant Apple password entry , it drives me crazy . She's used that laptop maybe ten times. I used it when my PC got damaged by Edison Power spikes. but let's face it most people just surf or use Facetime (grand kids )from time to time . I don't get why Mac lovers keep putting up with Apples refusal to make a machine with the proper amount of memory and hard drive sizes for today's needs. as you can tell not really a fan of the UI, but was impressed when they switched to BSD as the base OS . but even that , time has caught up with ( security attacks ) . not here to bash just to question it all. I was considering the new ones as the M4 is impressive and the power consumption awesome as well as the OS reliability as Paul Thurrott constantly compares pc laptops hardware just not able to control power uses and bugs , Apple wins that due to controlling the whole machine and OS made for just Mx chips and their integrated chipset . for 300.00 more I will be buying the Asus G16 with the Zen 5 series, not happy with that eaither as they are using 14 or 16" screen to try and get close to the M4 power usage. In closing just bored and felt like responding . and no not pushing my views , just ranting I guess . oh yes LOL you reminded me of my middle son who also keeps 40 tabs open on his 64gb PC , or his older brother that has 300 icons on his desktop , that's insanity to this old timer . anyway just disregard my comments , it's more of a mental thought that maybe should not be typed out loud LOL
@Jason_N_Paradise
@Jason_N_Paradise 6 күн бұрын
Hey good things come in small packages, but what's this about Mark Ellis hush money!? 👀🤣
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 5 күн бұрын
🤫🤫🤫
@seeibe
@seeibe 7 күн бұрын
It was not a mistake.
@jcollinsg3
@jcollinsg3 7 күн бұрын
Man, this whole thing just screams Red Bull. Wish they'd jump on it.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Explain 😅
@jcollinsg3
@jcollinsg3 6 күн бұрын
@@PatrickRambles Yeah, bet that was confusing... Long story short YT played the next vid my qeue without refreshing the comment section, so that was meant for another video. Wups! Anyway, thanks for all you do, love your vids man. :)
@je369
@je369 7 күн бұрын
For future proofs.❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉😂😮😅
@burgerbee5169
@burgerbee5169 7 күн бұрын
LLM performance is still a joke even with a maxed out M4 pro model. I think we will have to wait for the M5 or M6 for that. M4 isn't good enough for 70B models and 8B models runs fine on any laptop, so nothing special there.
@tamalchakraborty5346
@tamalchakraborty5346 7 күн бұрын
Bud , you realise M4 is an entry level chip which is equivalant to i3/ Ryzen3. You wanna run a 70B LLM on that ?
@burgerbee5169
@burgerbee5169 7 күн бұрын
@@tamalchakraborty5346 read one more time: "maxed out M4 pro". We need the 64GB option to begin with (40ish GB in Q4 + context + OS).
@tendosingh5682
@tendosingh5682 7 күн бұрын
Upgrading RAM and STORAGE does not have to be done through apple. Its standard pc parts.
@PatrickRambles
@PatrickRambles 7 күн бұрын
Good luck trying that on an apple computer.
@PentangleYT
@PentangleYT 7 күн бұрын
What are you even talking about?
@SuperCarrona
@SuperCarrona 7 күн бұрын
People buy comps just to see how they work? Not because they need it!😌🤡
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