Baseball Rule Myth - The High Five

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@robrasti
@robrasti 3 жыл бұрын
That's interesting. I've had our league Umpire in Chief emphatically warn players against that, especially on HRs where the kids all stand around home as the kid crosses the plate.
@clarksandberg8746
@clarksandberg8746 3 жыл бұрын
Tell that to MLB third base coaches.
@FactsMatter
@FactsMatter 2 жыл бұрын
He should not be umpire in chief.
@micahsilverman5284
@micahsilverman5284 Жыл бұрын
He may be warning people simply because he knows youth umpires - who are often untrained and just trying to help out in their community - will call it even when it's wrong.
@ThatEEguy2818
@ThatEEguy2818 3 жыл бұрын
Myth, tagging runners must not leave the base before the ball is caught. Rulebook, must not leave before the ball is touched.
@clarksandberg8746
@clarksandberg8746 3 жыл бұрын
Others not knowing the rules can be used to your advantage. Example: Tie game, bottom of the 6th. One out, bases loaded Fly ball to deep center field. No chance to throw the runner out. Center fielder "catches" the ball, but "bobbles it all the way to the infield before securing the catch. Runner on third (or third base coach) who doesn't know the rule, may start heading back to third base. Outcome: Tie game still. Bases loaded, two outs.
@FleasOfCamels
@FleasOfCamels 3 жыл бұрын
I work a lot of weekend travel ball tournaments. I'll hear this one at least once just about every weekend; "the runner can't be guilty of interference if he's running in the baseline".
@kingsmitt
@kingsmitt 3 жыл бұрын
HE DIDNT EVEN MAKE CONTACT ON THE HIGH FIVE
@scotts7453
@scotts7453 3 жыл бұрын
See 2:16
@ThatEEguy2818
@ThatEEguy2818 3 жыл бұрын
Myth, baseline is a line between bases that runners have to adhere to. Again, the rule book dispelled this myth.
@baseballumpires6901
@baseballumpires6901 3 жыл бұрын
People that believe that should review "The Skunk in the Outfield" play.
@benwallace3139
@benwallace3139 3 жыл бұрын
It was a long time ago, but I've seen a player called out by this "rule myth" on a home run of all things. Ball over the wall and a player coaching third high fives him (his brother, in fact). Umpire called the batter out.
@swilmsen63
@swilmsen63 3 жыл бұрын
Rule Myth is not being able to switch hit when you have 2 strikes. My son is a switch hitter and will sometime switch during his at bat. He was told by an umpire during a tournament the first time he tried he isn't allowed to switch with 2 strikes. It still worked out, my son was able to hit the next pitch, but I was confused. I looked it up and also called a good friend who was a Minor League Ump for years to help clarify that a lot of youth umpires follow the myth.
@willowbrook2717
@willowbrook2717 Жыл бұрын
That is absolutely a myth. You won't find that in any rule book at any level. Coincidentally, a varsity coach ( and a highly successful one at that) challenged me on that a couple weeks ago when a switch hitter moved twice during an at bat. He was so sure that the hitter couldn't switch when he has two strikes. Sorry coach. Not in high school. In fact, not anywhere.
@mitchbaker3230
@mitchbaker3230 Жыл бұрын
@@willowbrook2717 This might be the basis of the myth... Both Little League and OBR has a rule that says the batter is out for stepping from one box to another while the pitcher is in position ready to pitch. The myth is more than likely a case of misunderstanding and misapplication of this rule. I have had a few kids switch boxes during an at bat, but the pitcher was not ready. So, it was nothing.
@micahsilverman5284
@micahsilverman5284 Жыл бұрын
​@@mitchbaker3230yeah this is def where it comes from. You can't do that because it would obviously interfere with the pitchers ability to pitch. But you can switch sides as long as the pitcher isn't in the act of pitching
@Taryn.Clements.Softball
@Taryn.Clements.Softball 8 ай бұрын
As a catcher, one of the rule myths I hear a lot is the “dropped third strike”. Players and coaches will argue with the umpire if the ball bounces before it is caught on a third strike swing, saying that the ball was never dropped. The rule is actually called an “uncaught third strike” as opposed to “legally caught”.
@garygemmell3488
@garygemmell3488 3 жыл бұрын
One of the places it comes from is the insane practice of a team holding each other back from touching the runner as he gets near home plate after hitting a home run. It's like they fear slapping him on the butt is going to result in an out. They even do it in the majors on a game winning homer. If that were true Bobby Thompson would have only been credited with a triple on the Shot Heard Round the World since the 3B coach shook his hand and slapped him on the butt on the way home.
@SkeetRuns
@SkeetRuns 3 жыл бұрын
Would really love to hear more on Rule Myths!
@baberoot1998
@baberoot1998 3 жыл бұрын
Spectators who 'think' they know the rules of Baseball...are the most dangerous fans out there. Lol. They lose their minds when they 'think' they are right. Lol.
@jeffedwards8877
@jeffedwards8877 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have to argue #25 being included on a "myths" list..... NFHS 7-3-2 "Hit the ball fair or foul while either foot or knee is touching the ground completely outside the lines of the batter’s box OR TOUCHING HOME PLATE."
@MJHBaseball
@MJHBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
The rule list is for Little League and not NFHS. So you are correct that in High School, just touching home plate is enough. Not the case in Little League. Good catch.
@nate24680
@nate24680 3 жыл бұрын
Had a player hit a homerun in 12u ball, and his teammate gave him a high five before touching home plate. Ump called him out.
@micahsilverman5284
@micahsilverman5284 Жыл бұрын
That's unfortunate, but that's the kind of thing you're pretty much only going to see in youth ball. Not every umpire takes their job super seriously. Hell, most coachs don't bother to even crack open a rulebook at all
@Valdezzey
@Valdezzey 3 жыл бұрын
I had this exact thing happen twice last week during the same championship game. Today I had the “hands are part of the bat” argument from a coach on a kid who swung at a strike, contacted the ball with his hands, and the defensive team thought they turned a double play. Also had a batter make no attempt to move on a hbp but it resulted in ball 4 which the opposing manager thought it should be a strike even though the ball hit the batter in the back foot
@robrasti
@robrasti 3 жыл бұрын
I was coaching my daughter's softball team (12U) and had a fun exchange with the umpire. My batter swung through an inside pitch, the ball hit her hands on the bat, made no contact with the bat. The ball in turn, as a result of the contact went forward into the field of play. The umpire (in my opinion) made multiple mistakes next. 1) He audibly called the ball "Fair"; maybe I'm wrong on this, but I tell my players to run until they hear something from the umpire. They should point when calling "Fair" and audibly yell "Foul" for foul balls. 2) When I pointed out the ball hit my batter he said "Yes, it did, but it then went fair, so it's a fair ball". My arguments here of "if the ball hit her in the hip and rolled fair it would still be dead" were ignored. 3) When I later had my assistant coach (also my league UIC) confirm the rules with his contacts at District and LL Int. the umpire changed his statement to "No the ball hit the bat". I am a very laid back coach, I have a lot of respect for umpires, even when they get calls wrong; I wasn't rude to this guy, I agreed with the opposing coach, to move the game along that my batter was out, my runners on first and second each got the next base. Then between innings I went up to the Ump and said "Look, for future reference, the ball hit her hand, it should be a dead ball and strike on the swing." This is when he changed his call and said "No, it hit the bat".
@garygemmell3488
@garygemmell3488 Жыл бұрын
The easiest way to disabuse someone of the "hands are part of the bat" myth is to hand them a bat. Then aske them to drop the bat. When they do, point out that their hands are still attached to their wrists and not the bat.
@CharlesFreck
@CharlesFreck 3 жыл бұрын
He doesn't even actually get the high five xD
@davej3781
@davej3781 3 жыл бұрын
yep, left him hanging
@cj32pull2
@cj32pull2 3 жыл бұрын
On deck batter tripping doing that anyways 😂 ball is still live homie
@timothymaxheaux
@timothymaxheaux 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. It dont happen all the time. High fives after score or on homerun. Definitely dont see this all the time. Never did it when we played either
@malikshabazzbaker2868
@malikshabazzbaker2868 3 жыл бұрын
Myth: In baseball, you don’t pull the bat back on a bunt, it’s a strike.
@logandombroski1179
@logandombroski1179 3 жыл бұрын
That’s not a myth it’s a fact
@fitzhume36
@fitzhume36 3 жыл бұрын
@@logandombroski1179 You must offer at the ball during a bunt for it to be a strike if the ball is not in the strike zone. Only in softball is it the case where you HAVE to pull the bat back for it to not be a strike with the pitch out of the strike zone.
@garygemmell3488
@garygemmell3488 3 жыл бұрын
@@fitzhume36 Unless they've changed the ASA rule in the 15 years since I hung up the mask only the NCAA requires the bat to be pulled back if a batter shows bunt.
@mrylaarsdam2k
@mrylaarsdam2k 3 жыл бұрын
@@garygemmell3488 Has to offer in girls fastpitch as well
@baseballumpires6901
@baseballumpires6901 3 жыл бұрын
The umpire here did a very good job. EXCEPT, approaching the fence and responding to the spectator. I only deal with the head coaches during the game when it comes to discussions over plays. At times I will allow some latitude for the assistant coaches. But NEVER get into a conversation with a spectator. This is just bad news waiting to happen. If the coach wants to ask then fine. Have that conversation. Let the coach explain to his parents.
@michellepopkov940
@michellepopkov940 3 жыл бұрын
A Western Regional Championship ended on a coacher’s interference call when he materially assisted a runner to dash home and score the tying run! It was a righteous call by the way. A video is here on YT. That was a whole lot more than a high five. That’s the difference!
@MH-Tesla
@MH-Tesla 3 жыл бұрын
@@michellepopkov940 That game your referring to is shown at the end of this video.
@nathanmaestas9328
@nathanmaestas9328 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen an umpire call a baatter out for this same reason after hitting a grandslam🤦‍♂️. The ball is considered a dead ball once it leaves the field of play. The opposing coach convinced the umpire this was somehow assisting the runner even though he hit a homerun, and the batter's coach didn't know any better nor was there a rulebook anywhere in sight🤷‍♂️.
@baseballumpires6901
@baseballumpires6901 3 жыл бұрын
If it was nothing but a high five then no rule violation occurred. However, if the base coach assisted the runner, HR or not, he is out.
@MagSeven7
@MagSeven7 Жыл бұрын
Recently, I had a manager tell me "catchers interference is immediate dead ball". The catcher did interfere by lunging for the pitch. The bat hit his glove but, the batter reached first on an infield hit. When I told him, we let the play occur since if the batter is reaches base the interference is eliminated. As it turns out the batter reached base as did all the other runners. He kept insisting I was wrrong and that the ball was dead in every other placet his team played in. My particular game was local LL, Another myth we discuss each year prior to the season. If a runner is hit by a batted ball while on the base, the runner is out. Although I cannot remember this happening recently, some runners have come awful close to getting hit. I can only imagine the managers reaction and would expect more vocal reactions from the fans.
@Senten55
@Senten55 4 ай бұрын
Runner being hit by batted ball for an out is not a myth. it is considered baserunner interference. Only time it's not is when the runner is in foul territory as they are not "in play" area. It's why at the mlb lv. you will see baserunners stop till the ball goes by when it is hit on their basepath. This is a rule in both baseball and softball. It's also why most players are taught to stay in foul territory when they're on 3rd for their lead off.
@MagSeven7
@MagSeven7 4 ай бұрын
@@Senten55 Agreed, however, I'm usually doing games where the players are 12 and under and some don't have the baseball knowledge at that age yet. Stay in fould territory!!!
@Stonebridgellc
@Stonebridgellc 3 жыл бұрын
If everything on that list is false, I need to resign coaching immediately. Stealing on a foul ball? Coaches are allowed to have physical contact with a runner? (That one I have absolutely seen warnings given out for.) I know the "rule" against headfirst sliding is wrong, because one of our players was called out for sliding head first -- and it nearly cost us the game. After consulting the rulebook though, the Umpire apologized for calling our player out. One not on here -- with bases loaded and two outs, a dropped third strike means all runners can advance. I thought sure that was a rule, but the other team's coaches were sure it wasn't, and I ended up just dropping it, since we already had the game well in-hand.
@ThatEEguy2818
@ThatEEguy2818 3 жыл бұрын
Just pick up the ball and touch home. 😁
@larrykramer2761
@larrykramer2761 3 жыл бұрын
You cannot steal on a foul ball, but you can steal on a foul tip. Coaches cannot physically assist the runner, but a high five is fine. Headfirst slide is not allowed in Little League majors and below. Other rule sets it is allowed. With 2 outs the uncaught third strike rule is in effect whether or not 1st base is occupied. With less than 2 outs and 1st base occupied, the batter is out on an uncaught third strike.
@MJHBaseball
@MJHBaseball 3 жыл бұрын
Don't resign from coaching. Just read the rule book once a year. The list in the video is for LITTLE LEAGUE only and every listed item is false. Going to LLUmpire.com and you can view the list. Click on any one and you can read the description of why it's false. The rule portion of the Little League rule book is not very long. Thanks for watching.
@Stonebridgellc
@Stonebridgellc 3 жыл бұрын
@@MJHBaseball Thanks so much! Yes, our rules are slightly different for Hot Stove and some of the smaller leagues, and when there's a lot of overlap between umpires, coaches, and players among different leagues -- it leads to a lot of confusion. We don't have a rule against sliding head first, e.g. The last league we played in had no mention of the dropped third strike with bases loaded and two outs, and we had an ump call an infield fly on a ball forty feet into the right field grass that nobody was near enough to make a play on. It's a mess out here.
@jnwahlgren
@jnwahlgren 3 жыл бұрын
With two outs, the batter automatically becomes a runner on a dropped third strike. Other runners are not permitted to advance, they are forced to advance. If bases are loaded, the catcher can record the third out by simply stepping on home plate if he has the ball.
@davej3781
@davej3781 3 жыл бұрын
that runner was obstructed twice (at 1B and again at 2B). I hope PU awarded him 3rd.
@baseballumpires6901
@baseballumpires6901 3 жыл бұрын
You will rarely see the obstruction at 1st base in this video called in youth baseball. It is a legit call, but in all of the years of youth baseball I have been involved in, this video is the first time I have seen it called. As for the runner rounding 2nd, there is no obstruction there. The runner cleanly rounded the bag with no issues. So the runner on this play should be awarded 2nd from the obstruction at 1st, then he attempted to advance beyond and was tagged out. The tag was up on the body but it looks like it got down before he got the bag. Great job by this umpire.
@davej3781
@davej3781 3 жыл бұрын
@@baseballumpires6901 we're just going to have to disagree; I've got clear obstruction at 2B, the batter-runner obviously slowed and altered his path to avoid F4 directly in his path, and the runner should've been awarded 3rd.
@baseballumpires6901
@baseballumpires6901 3 жыл бұрын
@@davej3781 definitely have to disagree. There is nothing at 2nd. Not remotely close to Obstruction.
@russellbrooker2122
@russellbrooker2122 3 жыл бұрын
@@davej3781 defently obstruction on 1st base and I would call that all day, no opinion on the play at 2nd.
@ThatEEguy2818
@ThatEEguy2818 3 жыл бұрын
Myth, BR has to turn into foul territory after running through first. How did I learn better? I read the rule book.
@bradnowakowski3553
@bradnowakowski3553 3 жыл бұрын
only if he/she has no intention of advancing to 2nd
@ThatEEguy2818
@ThatEEguy2818 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradnowakowski3553 nope, they don't have to turn right at all, ever. They are protected so long as they don't make any kind of motion showing intent, even for a moment, to go to 2nd.
@billrobertson5895
@billrobertson5895 3 жыл бұрын
You might’ve read it but it you think it said just turning left means he can be tagged out you didn’t understand it
@ThatEEguy2818
@ThatEEguy2818 3 жыл бұрын
@@billrobertson5895 I didn't say anything about turning left. The myth is about being required to turn right. The BR is protected unless they show an intent to go to second, and that display of intent may be just for a fraction of a second, it's still a display of intent. If you round 1st tight and turn left, you may have no intention of going to second but it's up to the ump to make that judgment if they tag you. Good luck with that.
@billrobertson5895
@billrobertson5895 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatEEguy2818 I misread your comment when you said I learned better. I somehow read it as I learned that We are on the same page. Always taught my players to turn right after running through the bag just to avoid any problems with unknowing umps or any unintentional flinches towards 2nd that could be construed as intent. We are on the same page. ( what I get for reading posts just after waking up )
@nicholasbloor04
@nicholasbloor04 3 жыл бұрын
I believe he is saying under NFHS (National Federation High School) rules. At least after listening to it a few times, that’s what I heard.
@MJHBaseball
@MJHBaseball 3 жыл бұрын
I think you are correct. I couldn't be 100%, so I just left it ???.
@bullseyebuss
@bullseyebuss 3 жыл бұрын
I coach Little League and one I hear often is the myth of turning away towards the fence after running past first base or you can be tagged out.
@119Agent
@119Agent 3 жыл бұрын
We teach that just to prevent putting any doubt in the umpire’s mind that the runner wasn’t staying.
@bullseyebuss
@bullseyebuss 3 жыл бұрын
@@119Agent I definitely get that. I was taught the same way.
@justinburgan4184
@justinburgan4184 2 жыл бұрын
Oh really?!? I didn't know that. Nice. I know I was taught to turn away from the field but I didn't know that you could actually still turn towards the field and not be out. I need to look that up too.
@micahsilverman5284
@micahsilverman5284 Жыл бұрын
In a way that's true, because if you turn towards 2nd base, there is at least some chance the umpire could interpret it as an attempt. I once told a coach he didn't need to tell his runners to turn into foul territory, and he told me he says it because he doesn't want any chance of confusion. Good reason
@austinbarnthouse630
@austinbarnthouse630 Жыл бұрын
I do believe that home plate umpire is you. Certainly sounds like you.
@c4scad3
@c4scad3 3 жыл бұрын
Do a video on the infield fly rule. So many people get confused by that one.
@andy66linemen
@andy66linemen 3 жыл бұрын
Dear god this one is always hard to call and judge of the rules… Please do the myth/ruling
@119Agent
@119Agent 3 жыл бұрын
The myth there is that the ball has to be caught in the infield for an infield fly to be called.
@logandombroski1179
@logandombroski1179 3 жыл бұрын
Could u do a video on the myth that a runner has to slide or get out of the way on a double play because I want to know when a runner has to either slide or get out of the way on a double play
@ThatEEguy2818
@ThatEEguy2818 3 жыл бұрын
This may be a league rule for kids to prevent injury.
@logandombroski1179
@logandombroski1179 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatEEguy2818 yeah but I don’t know when the runner has to slide or get out of the way and when the don’t have to
@ThatEEguy2818
@ThatEEguy2818 3 жыл бұрын
@@logandombroski1179 your league should have documents that explain the rules. It should be documented which rule book they follow along with any added, removed, or altered rules for said league.
@baseballumpires6901
@baseballumpires6901 3 жыл бұрын
That is not a myth. If a runner interferes with a double play effort then they have committed Interference. IF the batter could have been thrown out at 1st (judgment call) then the batter is also called out. Pretty simple. If you have been retired, get out of the way either by sliding or avoiding. I would reference Little League rule 7.09 (e). "It is interference by a batter or runner when - any batter or runner who has just been retired hinders or impedes any following play being made on a runner." Now, the rule doesn't specifically in wording say the runner should slide or get out of the way. But read the rule and use some common sense and it is pretty easy to figure out. The wording changes depending on ruleset, but the basic outcome is all the same.
@MH-Tesla
@MH-Tesla 3 жыл бұрын
@@logandombroski1179 When a runner needs to avoid a fielder. (BTW, he's never allowed to truck a fielder or plow one over even if he had the right of way.) Runner has the right when: the fielder, not in the act of fielding a hit ball, does not have possession of the ball. If the fielder doesn't have the ball, the runner has the right. If the runner needs to avoid a fielder who doesn't have the ball, it's obstruction so the runner gets the base, but that doesn't mean he can just plow the fielder over. If the fielder is fielding a hit ball or possesses the ball, then the fielder has the right and the runner must again avoid. If the runner does not get out of the way, then not only is he going to be out, another runner might also be for interference. If the runner has been put out, but he's still on the field, he must do what he can to avoid a fielder. Interference by a runner does not need to be intentional. A runner is never required to slide, but usually that's the best option to avoid interference. If the runner intentionally interferes, that's a whole other discussion. In the end, runners should always avoid a collision with a fielder if they can and trust that the umpire knows the rule and will apply obstruction correctly... which will not happen at the younger levels always.
@clarksandberg8746
@clarksandberg8746 3 жыл бұрын
Tie goes to the runner. -- Nope. Batter or runner must "beat"/arrive to the base before the ball. Regardless, there's never a "tie." 1/1,000,000,000th of a second whether a batter/runner is safe/out.
@nathangarciamuro
@nathangarciamuro 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t believe parents ignorance. It is great to see an umpire to have patience and explain the rule to this parent.
@andy66linemen
@andy66linemen 3 жыл бұрын
Question: If you draw a line/dot/mark with your foot or bat in the box or surrounding area, is this always going to be viewed as showing an umpire up??? I am starting to see a trend here in 2021 of players… “Batsman” will set their bat tips on the ground and doing so put a mark or line in the dirt as a ritual/cadence of their stance. But I have watched a video recently where a player was ejected for his cadence being mistaken for a “drawing a line.” It’s been years since I played competitive baseball/softball but I remember even for my own cadence I would reach over the plate make sure I would use the tip of my bat and make sure I could reach and drag the tip down the opposite side of the bag…. Never was I ejected or talked too about this cadence.
@micahsilverman5284
@micahsilverman5284 Жыл бұрын
Since the dawn of baseball, drawing a line *to argue a pitch*, and NOT just tapping the dirt as a routine, has always been an automatic ejection. You are referring to that ONE example of when it appeared the umpire was mistaken about what happened. No this isn't a trend, and you don't have any other examples. You are looking for a fight when there isn't one to be had. Umpires have not gone mad with power, and when you argue with them they are almost always right. For further evidence, see all of these comments here
@jonnybaze7449
@jonnybaze7449 3 жыл бұрын
Tie doesn’t go to the runner?
@fitzhume36
@fitzhume36 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. In the rule book, it states that a runner must beat the throw to be safe. 6.05(j), 7.01, 7.08. All refer to either the runner must beat the defense to the bag to be safe or the defender must beat the runner to the bag to record an out. There is no in-between or a tie.
@garygemmell3488
@garygemmell3488 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the rule book being used. ASA softball rules require the defense to beat the runner to the bag while OBR (MLB) require the runner to beat the defense to the bag, Under ASA rules the runner is safe on a tie while under OBR the runner is out on a tie.
@russellbrooker2122
@russellbrooker2122 3 жыл бұрын
No, the runner has to beat the ball to the bag on a force play.
@nathan_2758
@nathan_2758 3 жыл бұрын
just saying i played for 12 year and i am almost high school ball and i cant believe people think tie go to the runner can u maybe make a video on that
@dooshkid
@dooshkid 3 жыл бұрын
he didnt actually make contact with the hand anyway so it doesnt matter lol
@russellbrooker2122
@russellbrooker2122 3 жыл бұрын
If this play was a HR I could see no issue with the high five but a batted ball shouldnt the runner be called out as it was interference with the on deck batter prior to touching home plate. Again home run vs batted ball scenario
@MJHBaseball
@MJHBaseball 3 жыл бұрын
No. There is no rule stated that a player can not touch a runner during a live play. The only thing an umpire is going to look for is interference or assisting a runner. Neither occurs so it's nothing. Ball Boys (or bat boys) are on the field a lot during live play. Same with on deck batters and coaches. They all CAN be called for interference, but only if they actually interfere. Thanks for watching.
@justinburgan4184
@justinburgan4184 2 жыл бұрын
That last clip... What if the coach just tapped him on his back to get his attention then said run home... Is that touching him to help assist him?
@MJHBaseball
@MJHBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
Umpire judgement, but not necessarily. Typically looking for a push (or pull.)
@justinburgan4184
@justinburgan4184 2 жыл бұрын
@@MJHBaseball 👌 probably have to be a real stickler to call that. Thanks for the reply. Coaching for the first time. Only t-ball but I have to remember the game and the stuff that can happen in LL. You're channel has been my go to. I notice you had Pearland LL in some of your vids. A bunch of the Williamsport footage. I grew up there. Was on the AS team that won state way back before they started winning consistently. I think it was 1997 or 98 or something when I was 11-12 yo.
@TeamSqueegee
@TeamSqueegee 3 жыл бұрын
How can I message you? I have a rule that I've not got an answer on. This after contacting the head umpire for our region and the head umpire for the NE division. Thanks!
@malikshabazzbaker2868
@malikshabazzbaker2868 3 жыл бұрын
What’s your question?
@MJHBaseball
@MJHBaseball 3 жыл бұрын
If you ask your question here, I'll see what I can answer.
@TeamSqueegee
@TeamSqueegee 3 жыл бұрын
@@MJHBaseball ok... it's a doozy.. Specifically I am asking for Babe Ruth little league Cal Ripken 10U ... So, 9&10 year olds that are just learning how to pitch. I would attach screen shots for my reference, but it won't let me on this... I am in North FL... My understanding is that we are governed by baberuthleague.org and specifically when we go to that website, we have to navigate to "pitch smart" and then pitching guidelines for the age bracket for specific limits and other rules... If that is true, then my question is for 10U ... I read the rules, on the pitchsmart page, to say that "once a pitcher is removed from the mound, they cannot return as a pitcher" (it literally says that verbatum).AGAIN it only says this for 10U so I believe it doesn't ring true for 12U suggesting that at 12U pitchers CAN return to the mound- such might be where the confusion is. But many coaches and umpires in my league are not familiar with this rule for 10U. I interpret that to mean if a pitcher (starter or reliever) is removed from the mound, they cannot pitch again in that game regardless of pitch count. My navigation was www.baberuthleagur.org/players/pitchsmart/pitching guidelines/ Ages 9-12/ scroll down a little. The head umpire said my interpretation was wrong and that they could come back in. But when I asked where it says that he referred me to 3.05 and said that a starting pitcher may come back in... But I could not find that and he refused to show me. I did read .06 line 5, but I believe that line is referring to 12U pitchers because, again, under "pitch smart" it specifically says for 10U "once a player is removed from the MOUND he may not return to the mound" and in .06 it references both 10u and 12U divisions before that line is mentioned. I emphasize mound two sentences ago, because the head umps rebuttal to that was for me to read "re entry" rule... Which I did, but my interpretation of this was if a pitcher WHILE (playing as a) batter or runner is removed from the GAME (probably due to injury) he, may return as a pitcher (which is the exact example given in that clause) so I felt the re entry rule had to do more with subbing out players from the game, not a position or mound. So to me I pictured a pitcher hitting the ball, running to first, trips and hurts his ankle... Coach puts in a sub. Next inning that pitcher may re enter as a pitcher (provided his injury in this example subsided). What started this for me is that there is no pitch count limitations in the rule book except that it DOES say, "refer to the pitch smart guidelines" - ok, if we are to use those guidelines for pitch count limitations, , then it would make sense to me that we also need to adhere to the part that says "a pitcher once removed from the mound may not return to the mound". I'm in a huge minority in my ball park that is contesting 10U pitchers returning to the mound later in the game. If I am wrong, so be it, but I'm confused because on the one hand we are supposed to use pitch smart guidelines and then we are not. (See .06 line 8)..... The only limitations for pitch count that I mentioned earlier, actually written in the rules, refers only to "tournament play" hence the need/reference in the rule book to use the pitch smart guidelines. I hope I explained this question well enough. The head umpire referred me to his boss, who never answered, and then I wrote to babe Ruth league and they never answered either so I appreciate you taking the time. I love your videos and explanations! Big fan!
@baseballumpires6901
@baseballumpires6901 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeamSqueegee For a second I was confused if you were asking about Ruth / Ripken or if you were asking about Little League. Then I saw you clarified Ruth / Ripken right after. Ripken has the youth level of what used to be Babe Ruth now. they are one league. Little League is completely separate. Many people confuse their leagues with being Little League when they aren't. For instance, you reference rule 3.05 which in the Little League rulebook is about Game Preliminaries. Anyways, this is pretty simple. If you are batting roster player substitutions are free. The removed pitcher is still in the batting order and can take any position on the field BUT pitcher. If you are batting 9, the removed pitcher can re-enter the game in the same spot in the batting order he was previously in and play any position BUT pitcher (the player that substituted for him is now removed from the game). Perhaps your local league has a local rule that differs, but this is the official baseball rule which is what Ruth / Ripken makes note of in their rulebook.
@TeamSqueegee
@TeamSqueegee 3 жыл бұрын
@@baseballumpires6901 so if I am understanding your reply... A pitcher once removed from the mound may not return to the mound in a game? (As stated in the pitching guidelines as referenced in the babe Ruth rule book)?
@jogiehorseshoeing
@jogiehorseshoeing 3 жыл бұрын
I used to believe that a tie went to the runner. Luckily I was having a conversation with one of our umpires during a break of a doubleheader. And he looked at me like I was a complete fool. I am the arguing type and I was glad that I learned the rule before it ever happened to me while I was coaching a game
@MJHBaseball
@MJHBaseball 3 жыл бұрын
6.05(i) A batter is out when… after hitting a fair ball, the batter-runner or first base is tagged BEFORE said batter-runner touches first base. [So if there was such thing as a tie....it goes to the runner.] 7.08(e) A runner is out when… failing to reach the next base BEFORE a fielder tags said runner or the base after that runner has been forced to advance by reason of the batter becoming a runner. [So if there was such thing as a tie...it goes to the fielder.] Generally umpires do not believe in ties. In MLB the tie goes to the umpire, because video replay has to be definitive to over turn the on field umpire, so if it were an actual tie, the call would not be overturned. It'd be whatever that umpire on the field said. So, ties go to the umpire.
@baseballumpires6901
@baseballumpires6901 3 жыл бұрын
@@MJHBaseball There is no such thing as a tie. The rules are as you stated above. The rules here are pretty simple. If the ball is caught with the base touched on a force play before the runner touches the base, he is out. If not he is safe. There is no tie involved. What happens in the play is a JUDGMENT call. If there were a such thing as a tie, the rulebook would determine what the resolution would be with a note "In the case of a tie". However, the rule clearly states the condition for an out vs safe. It isn't that umpires don't believe in ties. We judge the play based on the rules.
@ronaldmead7643
@ronaldmead7643 Жыл бұрын
I have seen couches pat the person rounding third on a home run. It is not helping them to score. The ump did the right thing
@lonvalentine6374
@lonvalentine6374 3 жыл бұрын
The white object on the pitchers arm
@fjg8340
@fjg8340 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a little league rule. Objectives of the game.
@wdilks
@wdilks 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for what you do!
@MrFishingca
@MrFishingca 3 жыл бұрын
Typical little league parent getting involved in something they no nothing about in a little league game.
@malikshabazzbaker2868
@malikshabazzbaker2868 3 жыл бұрын
The “an umpire called it on me” excuse. The rules are available for anyone online for free.
@M_M0109
@M_M0109 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely not a Little League game, but you point still stands.
@jaydenmorrison8666
@jaydenmorrison8666 3 жыл бұрын
was umping a game. ball bunted slow rolling fielder picked it up just befor it went foul. i called fir coach said ball was in foul. i said no edge of ball was over fair
@baseballumpires6901
@baseballumpires6901 3 жыл бұрын
The ball is a circular object. By rule, if any part of the ball is over the line it is fair. So if "in your judgment" part of the ball was over the line, it is in fact fair.
@jaydenmorrison8666
@jaydenmorrison8666 3 жыл бұрын
@@baseballumpires6901 yep. Coaches can be idiots
@dismalcontent6067
@dismalcontent6067 3 жыл бұрын
You can run the bases in opposite order ??
@MJHBaseball
@MJHBaseball 3 жыл бұрын
Go to LLUMPIRE.COM and click on that specific item and you will see the answer. The rules require some runners to run in reverse order, so it can't be illegal. Rule 7.02
@jnwahlgren
@jnwahlgren 3 жыл бұрын
As long as it's not "for the purpose of confusing the defense or making a travesty of the game." OBR 5.09(b)(10). That's my favorite language in the rulebook.
@maxbosoxfan171
@maxbosoxfan171 3 жыл бұрын
ooh ...theres so many
@Ian_Schrock
@Ian_Schrock 3 жыл бұрын
I used to think if you have the ball in bare hand and tag a runner he was safe I found out that I was wrong bc I asked during my brothers game!
@micahsilverman5284
@micahsilverman5284 Жыл бұрын
I think you might still be confused. If you tag a runner with your glove, but the ball is in your hand, he is safe. But you may tag a runner with the ball in your hand, using your hand, and then the runner would be legally out.
@blakethegreat7724
@blakethegreat7724 3 жыл бұрын
Fourth
@youtube_Sucks_A
@youtube_Sucks_A Жыл бұрын
What a simp. He wants his kid to win at all cost even if the better team wins obviously.
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