The Astro Who Refused To Cheat

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[@BaseballDoesntExist]

You guys forgive Altuve yet?

[@-woohoobs-8918]

Eh. Have to finish the vid first to decide. Edit: yes, I do (mostly). Even though he didn’t actively participate in the cheating, he probably should’ve said something. Other than that, he seems like a cool dude. I wish him the best.

[@DarkKnightOmega]

@@-woohoobs-8918 same

[@trisgilmour]

No I still think he was involved in the cheating and he’s getting what comes to you when you cheat

[@mrgreekgm754]

No lol you serious?

[@17zay17]

no lol

[@AMA2much]

The funniest part is when fanbases instantly forgive a member of the scandal as soon as they join their team.

[@ppboiepicbruh831]

Perfect example of this: yankee fans

[@wandameadows5736]

Nice vague reference to something that only exist in your head. This is about the fraudulent dishonest Astros. Not the imaginary player that goes to another team.

[@jayt4533]

George Springer..

[@howdareyou41]

Like how Red Sox fans hate The Stros and bring trash can lids to games but love Cora?

[@anabelcampbell851]

Ain’t it so?

[@ryankoulos4614]

The dumb thing is that the astros actually had a really good team and didn’t need to cheat at all. Their actions damaged the reputations of the whole brand and the commissioner’s statements on the situation damaged the reputation of baseball

[@louisvelez8276]

The Yankees … the Red Sox… the A’s, the Cubs, just to name a few were also known for cheating by the way of stealing signs using Apple watches cameras taking PED’s … etc…. And none of those teams got punished or hated the way the Astros did so shut up already. The game was already tarnished.

[@VioletDeliriums]

it did not damage baseball...it damaged the anti-american, capitalist-infested MLB.

[@Nova_Nora5]

Yes. But the Astros were not the only ones! 19 other teams were they also found doing the same thing. The reputation of baseball was damaged by all those teams. We just happened to have a rat 🐀 in our team and now he is getting what he deserves.

[@wolfgineer9340]

@@Nova_Nora5 this exactly, mlb threw the astros under the bus to take all the heat. But the long list of cheaters between '16 and '20 is unreal including Yankees cheating the same time they claim the Astros stole their chance. It wasnt about I have a good team and dont have to cheat, its about winning the title and doing whatever it takes KNOWING other teams are cheating to beat you.

[@waka4504]

@@Nova_Nora5 This is cap.

[@RAINSMAN79]

We had a home room lesson about perseverance using the Astros as examples, and the next day the cheating scandal broke.

[@CodemanAmerica]

This is AWESOME lol.

[@Nova_Nora5]

And the than the MLB also find out the Yanks and Red Sox’s were also cheating… hey at least the Astros and the Red Sox were good enough to be able to win! The Yankees and Dodgers couldn’t win even with cheating 😂😅 instead Cash still says that the yanks mental health is mess up and they keep losing because the Astros stole signs on them 6 years ago 😂🤣🤣🤣 yall whiny babies are so funny!!! Hey Yanks! Call Better Help! ♥️ Houston is here for you, we can help you sweep 🧹 your stadium 🏟️😘

[@Carrtee]

Bro that’s awesome

[@fedordedov783]

Still a valuable lesson - just wasn't the one you thought it might be. Lol. Sweet teacher though.

[@STStillwell]

Oh goodness, that poor teacher.

[@gehgegeg2746]

I love your videos from a non baseball fan because you dont act like people will know even the smallest details. I’m sure it’s a little annoying for diehard fans having to hear the minute details, but you’re pretty much the only reason I’m starting to watch baseball (have to give chart party some credit 😂)

[@Firebringer121]

Same, this is the kind of stuff thats actually getting me into baseball, unlike my family that just want me to get it without haveing to explain anything.

[@MagnetDzn]

Exactly!🎉

[@notsoperfectdrummer]

I think a lot of people who think they know everything also learn little things constantly. People think they know it all

[@jackvankirk8552]

Nobody cares about a prospect's obscure litany of stats on Monday home games in April. Moneyball and its consequences have been a disaster for sports.

[@noteworthyinsignificance]

Good comment. It's why I watch this channel.

[@giantsknicksfan1427]

I don't think I'll ever see someone go from so praised to so hated that quickly

[@fruitsnack6319]

thats what happens when dodgers fans get butt hurt

[@esmeraldac4063]

juju smith shuster

[@meatballsub7536]

OJ Simpson

[@vinnadoncoppious8930]

Will smith 😦

[@exglued2394]

@@fruitsnack6319 your mom

[@chesschad81]

Fun fact: in the 2021 regular season, Altuve's batting average was .278. He hit .278 in the first half of the season and .278 in the second half; .278 against lefties and .278 against righties.

[@alainabrinton5298]

Is that real? Even disregarding cheating at home, who is that consistent, ever? What a beast

[@danielostrom566]

@@alainabrinton5298 2021 alaina…

[@chesschad81]

I had to edit it 'cause I got it wrong. It wasn't .278 at home/on the road, but .278 in the first half and second half.

[@fries5849]

@@alainabrinton5298 Look up Khris Davis stats the dude hit .247 4 years in a row

[@boolanny]

soooo your saying he found another way to cheat then...

[@dasparado]

Altuve is a really nice guy as well. He is always doing charity stuff around town. Everyone loves him here in Houston. Guys on top of the mountain are always loved or hated, no in between.

[@wtfyomom]

oh so charity means he didnt cheat? hahaha please I can show you plenty of athletes who do both

[@SoldierJackson77]

@@wtfyomom did you not watch the video?

[@youtubehand]

​@@SoldierJackson77 yes. The team cheated

[@ice_connoisseur]

@@youtubehand yea but altuve purposely did not listen the the bangs from the trash cans and the reason people said he was using a tracker was because somebody on youtube misread his lips. he was really saying "no camisa" which means "no shirt" in spanish

[@LeoWhalen1933]

Because he has a guilty conscience.

[@JBullyy]

Spanish speaker here and also Yankees fan lol, he said “la camisa no” which means “not the jersey” not “I have a piece”

[@Heyitsnanalala]

Facts (a Latina that is a Astro fan)

[@mikeh407]

He meant not the jersey because I have a piece.

[@Harapan876]

thats what he said

[@arikdaniels7306]

That shot of Mike Fiers beard was almost as disgusting as the Astros scandal itself

[@reck1224]

When trying to look badass goes wrong.

[@Beenman2210]

Mike Fiers looks like the game master from the hunger games

[@salvadorfonseca7]

Honestly keep forgetting that man exists and is still in my Oakland Athletics roster LOL

[@kermitfrog593]

More disgusting

[@RockiesSweden]

Mike Fiers is a pretty disgusting person tbh

[@Jitterzz]

Y’know, none of the fan investigation work would have been necessary if MLB itself didn’t botch the investigation into the org. Many fans (and players) were pissed with the way it was handled, which just caused more animosity between all parties involved.

[@stephenreagin719]

What does this mean? The Astros organization cooperated fully, maybe even to a fault, unlike (e.g.) the Red Sox who clammed up and simply blamed a rogue replay video guy

[@NavyNate123]

Because they would have had to suspend 70% of MLB managers. This was the neat and tidy way to "end the problem".

[@omarr853]

@@stephenreagin719 im pretty sure it's been reported the league knew about the Astros cheating DURING that 2017 season but did nothing about it. Sure nthe Astros can say that they cooperated fully, but idk about you I'm not giving out incriminating information to a cop if they don't know about it or if they have no solid proof on it, that's why the buzzers are as big of a topic as they are because it's a speculation.

[@rurouni786]

@@stephenreagin719 right, I think he's implying BEFORE the scandal broke out. And he's not wrong, the MLB knew the Yanks/Red Sox/Dodgers/Brewers and many other teams were suspiciously involved in digital sign stealing or at least 'curious' video room activity, but just wanted it to go away, and it never did. This became a league wide problem, and once Fiers opened his rat mouth, they pinned it on the Stros. It was easier for them to have one 'renegade scapegoat,' rather than actually present it like the league wide issue it was.

[@Hornsfan64]

Don’t forget that the players were represented by the MLBPA. They said the players would agree to “tell all” in return for immunity. Otherwise, they would stay silent. That’s why the players were not punished.

[@CodemanAmerica]

"If he was using a buzzer, he'd be more careful..." Bro...they were loudly banging f'n trash cans 🤣🤣🤣

[@broadstreet21]

He would plant buzzers in a more careful place, like his glove.

[@shelbynorth9518]

That’s what i’m saying! he obviously cheated just astros fans are delusional because they won

[@broadstreet21]

@@shelbynorth9518 The Astros cheated, nobody can dispute that. Even if Altuve had no part in cheating, without it, he wouldn't have won (or then again, maybe they might have). This video's point is that Altuve didn't cheat. First, he refused to use trash cans. Second, if he used a buzzer, he wouldn't have hid it under his shirt where he knew his teammates would rip it off - or his teammates would know not to rip it off. Thirdly, he proved he did have a tattoo.

[@matthewrock4725]

​@@broadstreet21and that tattoo was nothing more than a small/word name in cursive is it not? Hardly something that can't see the light of day

[@Hothrax]

@@shelbynorth9518 oh yeah? provide some proof buddy. And while you are at it provide proof that the redsox didnt cheat. fools all of you.

[@xavieroliver6594]

If you’re a member of a team that is actively cheating, and you have knowledge of it, and say nothing. You are a cheater.

[@EverydayOrthodoxChristian]

Although I see where you're coming from, his whole career could be at risk. If he came out about it he could've lost his spot on the astros and or also been called a cheater no matter what. It's a tuff spot for anyone to be in, and he just handled it poorly.

[@andyguajardo4785]

Well maybe to you Mr goody 2 shoes.

[@bigtone7824]

You don't rat out your teammates, that's nonsense

[@tima.478]

The word you're looking for is "complicit," which he was. So Yeah, it's just as bad.

[@chesschad81]

Even if you know that most of your opponents (in the playoffs at any rate) are also cheating?

[@salkulka6478]

Chapman hung a slider middle high to this guy during an inning where the only pitch he was able to throw for a strike was the slider. His fastball location was nonexistent that entire inning. As a yankees fan, I 100% held Chapman responsible for that homerun since it happened

[@ryankester9387]

Woah can’t believe that.. not to pour salt on the wound either but I believe the Yankees didn’t score that much either in that series

[@janelis156]

The only issue I have is the count was 2-1 usually you get a fastball from Chapman in that situation, altuve looked like he knew what was coming. No flinching I remember watching that live and telling my girl, wow it's like he knew what was coming... I'm a mets fan by the way

[@antre9676]

@@janelis156 In 2019, Chapman threw the slider in a 2-1 count at almost double the rate than the fastball. He hung a slider and got caught.

[@joerk992]

@@janelis156 casual

[@weakglovehand82]

100% I never understood why people were surprised by the fact that, if you throw a meatball upstairs to a guy who's proving time and again to be one of the best high fastball hitters of his generation, it's gonna get crushed.

[@Mall_man_]

I’m wondering why, Carlos Beltran, the guy that apparently started the whole thing, got no heat for it in the slightest

[@Krawberry]

Because people realized it was a scapegoat. Everyone they blamed, either was already retired, or on different teams

[@lukerbom12]

He did get fired by the Mets...and he's the only guy besides Luhnow still out of a job, I think he took enough of the fall.

[@Mall_man_]

@@lukerbom12 he left the job he was never fired

[@lukerbom12]

@@Mall_man_ They "agreed to part ways", come on, we all know what that means

[@REALTRUEJOURNEY]

He literally lost the job as the Mets manager a day after being announced

[@andrewtaylor1492]

Even if those guys didn’t cheat, they’re still complicit in the biggest scandal in mlb history and barely got punished

[@zikalokof1challenge414]

Tbh I dont think they should be penalized for that. If we go with that logic, then we should penalize pretty much everyone who played in the steroid era, since they probably knew that some of their teammates were juicing but didn't do anything about it

[@MrH.09]

just like every other team that cheated

[@tykeboy16]

what is he supposed to do? Rat on his team to the media? I'm sure that will help him land a new team in the spring...

[@andrewtaylor1492]

@@tykeboy16 Mike Fiers did it and I respect him way more than Altuve or douchebag Bregman

[@thewestisthebest6608]

@@andrewtaylor1492why would you not respect Altuve when he didn’t cheat?

[@blairtinkle4563]

This is a question many of us will face in life. "Everyone on my team is cheating, what should I do?" Letting everyone else cheat and calling yourself a winner is not the answer.

[@bobbymiller7242]

Brother, this man was bathing in a river. It's easy for you to sit on a high horse about it, but playing MLB was the only thing he wanted to do, and the Astros are the only team that gave him a shot. It's basically a miracle he got there in the first place.

[@blairtinkle4563]

@bobbymiller7242 My friend, I came from nothing, paid every penny of undergrad and law school working as a waiter, a bus boy, a construction worker, a bartender and at a 7-11. I reached the highest levels you can reach as an attorney. All the way, I fought cheaters, often, if not always to my detriment, and I assure you I earned a tiny fraction of what this guy has made. No one, not from any background, earns the right to be a cheater. That's not a high horse, it's life, I'm a human being and it was my choice not to be a cheater and I don't condone cheating.

[@SpFlash1523]

@@blairtinkle4563 All humans, rich or poor, are sinful. At some point or another, we have all considered taking the easy way out, including you.

[@Zilzalag]

@@SpFlash1523 nah dont make that judgement about him. considering and actually TAKING that way out are two different things as well.

[@Thatfruitydude]

@@SpFlash1523but only Altuve is allowed to lie and pretend he didn’t? Total whataboutism on your part

[@forgettablelisa]

Manfred effectively did nothing in response to the Astros cheating, so it left everyone wanting blood from the franchise, and Altuve was one of the biggest faces of those teams for better or worse. That's why he gets bullied, guilty or not, because MLB is run by incompetents.

[@Reubonics]

The only take necessary.

[@watchman1178]

Exactly. When Manfred found out about the Astros sign-stealing scheme back in 2017, he purposely chose to protect the business of baseball at the expense of the integrity of the game. And since Manfred chose to cover it up and sweep it under the rug, that told other teams (including 2018 Boston Red Sox) that there was no real reason to worry about getting caught. So, Manfred not only botched the 2017 situation with the Astros (TWICE), his purposeful mistake also led to teams cheating in 2018 & 2019 right up until the whistleblower came forward after the conclusion of the 2019 season. The fact that Manfred still has his job should tell everybody that MLB values the business ($$$) of baseball over everything else, including the integrity of the game.

[@brianbunel7687]

Because the Yankee and most if all the league was doing the same thing

[@pinexpression4216]

@@brianbunel7687 worst part is the Yankees just got a slap on the wrist and they tried to pay to have it covered up and they were doing it 2 years prior to the Astros

[@Ben-uc9xn]

Off topic but nice voidz pfp!!!

[@charlesedward5047]

The most baffling thing for me is having a cheating system that everybody can hear. It's like a student tapping the pen on his desk several times to give his classmate the answers on an exam in front of the teacher. Pretty dumb teacher if they don't notice.

[@will_1470]

They could just have bad tunnel vision and don't notice it unless they're listening for it

[@yankeesforlife24]

Players picked it up in June

[@NCA_Azzy]

Players were noticing, though.

[@wildboar1911A1]

well thats why they started transitioning to electronic patches / buzzers worn under the jersey. like altuve used the entire time.

[@cashacquirer46]

@@wildboar1911A1 the fact that you watched this entire video and decided to comment this is kinda telling

[@BitchuteBetterThanYoutube]

It's 2023 and Altuve has been putting up the same big numbers since the accusation. He's just good and doesn't need to cheat.

[@blahblahco.5834]

He's literally great!

[@Undertaker5579]

Are you that ignorant? If you have the same average when cheating and not cheating then he still cheating. Try taking batting practice when you know which pitch was coming and then do it without knowing. Let's see if you have the same average. His actions after the 2019 homerun to run into dugout and not stay and celebrate with teammates. Seriously wake up and face reality.

[@echoxd9372]

@@Undertaker5579 So he has had signs in every AB and was able to get them from every park this season?

[@JackMehoff-tg3ot]

​@@Undertaker5579🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@damehal]

He's a cheater just like the rest of them. Altuve - Oh I didn't do it. I'm the only one. I call b*******

[@adjustableisland8806]

He's a liar -- his demeanor when asked about the shirt, him switching stories, it's plain as day he had something to hide.

[@shegawkin]

he’s just that good

[@warlordofbritannia]

If Altuve wasn’t so short, it wouldn’t be as easy to make short jokes about him

[@diegocorona3983]

Well no fucking shit

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@diegocorona3983 But why doesn’t he get less short? 🤔🤔🤔

[@donkeykongenjoyer]

Dude looks like a damn garden gnome. If you put him in someone's garden with a cone on his head, no one would notice.

[@donkeykongenjoyer]

@@He_ldI’m 5’11, and I’m 16. Only gonna get taller, but meanwhile, Jose has maxed out his height.

[@Big_Stink]

Youre not wrong

[@ShamanicEnzan]

Bang% is a punch line I didn’t know I needed

[@thatguynamedluke7207]

Sound like a speed run category

[@ShamanicEnzan]

@@thatguynamedluke7207 what’s up guys we’re going for bang percent.

[@SmoothCriminal12]

@@ShamanicEnzan Mark Beuhrle would be a natural at it.

[@beanie226]

Even if he NEVER participated in the sign stealing scheme, ( which I doubt ); Altuve was well aware of the cheating going on with his teammates . If he disapproved, as he claims , then he should have said something . One ( former ) Astro came clean . The others are weasels whether active participants or not . They ALL benefited from the cheating . If he doesn’t want to be booed, he could demand a trade and tell people why !

[@samihtameez8584]

literally look at his batting averages, they didn't increase with the trash can thing

[@H3ROShazam5623]

Given the fact that he still smacks 400 ft homers on a team that has made 7 straight ALCSs, 2 rings 4 pennants, I don't think he minds the booing. And do you really think the most hated player in the league would receive better treatment from fans if he went elsewhere? I doubt it considering stadiums chant "fuck altuve" during games the Astros aren't even playing at. In fact, if people actually wanted Altuve to receive punishment, it seems the best way to do that is to STOP booing. 😂

[@DawlSheepProds]

@@H3ROShazam5623 I guarantee you all 29 other clubs would want Altuve on their team and would instantly forgive him if he joins them

[@ahp2825]

He did say something, he told his teammates to stop and didn't want to be apart of it.

[@tannerbroyles]

@@samihtameez8584doesn’t matter. He *KNEW* his team was cheating and stayed quiet about it.

[@TwoJeremysWoodworking]

This was like the video convincing everyone that Daniel Larusso was the real bully, not Johnny Lawrence.

[@cohencarpenter8338]

It’s worth noting that he bounced back in a big way this season. He hit his career high in home runs with a .277 batting average, and he’s still as clutch as he has ever been in the playoffs.

[@aaronscarpa7469]

And gave Chicago a big “FUCK YOU” in the 9th 😂

[@d0Bored0b]

@@aaronscarpa7469 Altuve tends to have signature 9th innings, reminds me of the Yankees vs Astros ALCS 2019

[@MrHeart12]

Yes he did hit his career high but he tied his career high. Just specifying that he didnt set a new career high but he tied the one from 2019.

[@steverennie5787]

That just tells me he is quite comfortable with his cheating, that he has no guilt or second thoughts... tells me he likely thinks he isn't cheating. Its very unhealthy. And yes, I think he's a big time cheater... bullied? I don't think so... he's the cockiest piece of sh#t around. He deserves whatever bad press and the crowds hating on him. I wouldn't want someone like that on my team.

[@cohencarpenter8338]

@@steverennie5787 Bro did you not watch the video? Altuve has always claimed his innocence, his teammates say he’s innocent, the guy that started the whole thing and broke the scandal says he’s innocent, and the statistics and analytics prove he’s innocent. You want someone to get mad at? You’ve got Bregman, Correa, Yuli, Marwin, Reddick, Gattis, etc. All of those dudes are big time cheaters, get pissed at them. Don’t get pissed at the one guy in the organization that didn’t go along with the scandal. That’s just ignorant.

[@dderkk]

This came out at a good time because a White Sox pitcher (Ryan Tepera) is now accusing them of cheating again (Edit): Also, I’m a Cardinals fan/a fan of baseball overall so neither team means anything to me, I’ll take my historic 17 game win streak and go away until next year

[@brooksmullen5426]

Tepera is a little salty

[@Gg-et8gp]

Yeah cause they definitely didn’t score 6 at their own time place

[@brooksmilam6950]

Yah and it doesn’t make sense the white Sox put up 12 at their home game and out of 5 in the 2 games in Houston if anything they’re cheating

[@MonicaRodriguez-do7ni]

Tepera prolly pissed the stros off now

[@landonpatton7997]

The managers have hated each other since the beginning of time, but you just can't rule anything out

[@dougnewman3935]

nobody leans into a Chapman pitch like Altuve did unless they know what’s coming. Chapman knew that…which is why you see his smile like that. He knew he’d been had. and i don’t believe for a second that after hitting a HR to send a team to the world series all he thinks about is how a tattoo would look. Judge should have been MVP in ‘17 and Yankees should have gone to WS in ‘19.

[@gradyjones7017]

Did you watch the video or did you just comment this?

[@gradyjones7017]

So you’re surprised that Jose Altuve, one of the best hitters in the MLB, could hit a hanging slider? Have you watched or played baseball at all?

[@Dirtytanker]

​@gradyjones7017 no he isn't. Dude isn't even a top 30 player.

[@gradyjones7017]

@@Dirtytanker he was less than 2 years removed from an MVP season. He was one of the best hitters

[@willianlopez787]

Now that I try to read his lips he actually seems to have said “la camisa no” (not the shirt). Doesn’t prove or disprove anything but I guess certain “analysts” and especially Yankees fans of course are very conclusive saying that he said “I got a piece on”. But well even if altuve would have been speaking Korean people would be trying to find some English words in there that’d prove there was a buzzer.

[@mike-0451]

He’s actually been doing that gesture since 2015

[@joseviera8801]

exacto, no dice i got a piece on, es obvio que dice la camisa no, pero bueno, es obvio que van a buscarle otro sentido, sobre todo cuando la gente que lo hace ni idea tiene de español

[@stevo3883]

@@dffndjdjd Bregman speaks spanish and translates for the American players. Correa also got advanced training in English when he lived in Puerto Rico, because he knew he was going to be a pro baseball player in the US.

[@stevo3883]

@@wyattsexton4132 lol bro everyone has absolutely hated Houston fans for nearly 5 years non stop. People do "fuck altuve" chants at minor league baseball games lmao

[@LegacyProductionsOrg]

Ok we’ll just call him a liar then

[@BamaFanUSMC]

The smallest guy took the biggest brunt of the hostility and negativity. He knew before the season started he was going to get treated badly and even get thrown at. And he took it all without whining or crying to the media or fans. He silently took it all, and it looks like he didn't participate. But he did know about it, and didn't say anything about it. And I can understand why he couldn't say anything.

[@EBR846]

*didn't say anything* fixed it for you

[@irlnd32]

He lucked out, he had COVID season and the fans didn’t get to vent.

[@XU23]

Usually the case…

[@Theorpo]

​@@CodyTres7 guess Justin Verlander can't make the hall of Fame 🙄

[@Theorpo]

@@CodyTres7 I agree with that. Thanks for clarifying your point.

[@raulh1126]

Altuve says “ LA CAMISA NO! La camisa NO! “ As in: not the shirt ! Not the shirt!

[@w.c.d4892]

Cheating is a stain that stays forever.

[@cpz1019]

Before crossing home, I think Altuve was saying “ la camisa, no”, meaning “not the jersey”

[@brendan594]

Yeah that is what he said

[@i2S_Chaotic]

Yeah it was becuz of his wife didn't want other women seeing him without a shirt on

[@justinmendoza3568]

He did nothing and the 2019 run to the World Series was ligit

[@mellamoalfonzo9967]

@@justinmendoza3568 Learn how to spell legit and then you can have an opinion

[@Biggaveli413]

yeah not sure where he got that “i got a piece on” stuff from but it was definitely no la camisa no

[@braden2345]

Crowd: “CHEATER, CHEATER” altuve: *hits 3 run homer

[@viveknamikaze761]

They got lit up like a Christmas tree haha 😂. 400 ft 3 run HR off the closer was the final nail in the coffin.

[@King_Immanuel]

On the first pitch too

[@juantoledo8541]

best way to shut them up lol

[@Monfern0]

Had to go to game 7 even when cheating lol

[@bigtexpoker9134]

That was a glorious “fk y’all “ to all the haters.

[@LeftyTheHefty]

I don’t see how you can look at all of that and say “he definitely didn’t cheat you guys” At best the evidence is inconclusive and at worst it’s damning.

[@DaemonPix]

As a Houstonian I have never stopped chearing for the Astros. I believe you stick with your teams no matter if you win or lose. Jose is a good dude that cares about our city and community. I don't blame fans that hate on the Astros organization as a whole but I would offer a point to consider. The use of gaining a competitive edge using video equipment was more of a wide spread issue than we are made to believe. The Dodgers, Redsox and Yankees teams have had their own sign stealing schemes used during the same time period but no one wants to talk about that. The Astros have been made out to be the scapegoat for sign stealing ... sent out to die in the wilderness. #2022WorldSeriesChamps

[@ryanpmcp]

If Carlos Beltran was indeed one of the masterminds behind the whole thing, then HE should be the face of it. Not Altuve. Say what you want but that’s my opinion on it. The fact that Aaron Judge had the audacity to say that Beltran didn’t “have to explain himself” for the incident after he got hired on to the Yankees’ broadcasting team really pisses me off after the way he trashed them just a few years prior.

[@Kwolfx]

"If Carlos Beltran was indeed one of the masterminds behind the whole thing, then HE should be the face of it." - I can't disagree with that, but baseball is a team sport and it wasn't like Carlos Beltran was doing this on his own. A fair number of other players were cheating as well. The coaches knew about it, the manager knew about it and certainly Jose Altuve knew what was going on. Even if Altuve wasn't cheating he went along with it. So, I might agree that Carlos Beltran deserves to take much more heat than he has taken; and if he was the originator of the plan it wouldn't have bothered me at all if he had been banned from MLB altogether, but that doesn't absolve Jose Altuve for either cheating; if he did, or simply looking the other way, while his teammates cheated.

[@wtfyomom]

yeah forget all the best players on the team and manager that faced zero consequences, lets put all the blame on a bench player who hardly played.

[@chesschad81]

@@Kwolfx Why should he snitch on his teammates when he knows the rest of the league is doing the same?

[@Kwolfx]

@@chesschad81 I never said he should snitch on his teammates. I said that if Carlos Beltran was the originator of the cheating, he deserved to be banned. I also said that Jose Altuve doesn't get any slack from me. I never heard that he protested or complained about this scheme. I would certainly have a different opinion of him if he did. The rest of the league never beat trashcans or used electronic devices to transmit upcoming pitches to batters.

[@chesschad81]

@@Kwolfx "The rest of the league never beat trashcans or used electronic devices to transmit upcoming pitches to batters." This is at least the third time I've heard this exact statement used in this exact argument. The Yankees and Red Sox both cheated and were caught by the MLB. No, they didn't cheat in the same way that the Astros did, but why does it matter? What is it that makes cheating bad? It's the unfair advantage that it gives, is it not? Then how do you measure the badness of the cheating? I'd say by its effectiveness. If you're illegally using electronics to cheat but it's not helping you win games, (and it really didn't make the Astros hit better), is that really worse than a pitcher using illegal sticky stuff to make his pitches 10 times nastier, and actually getting results? Every team in the league was cheating using sticky stuff until last year. It was statistically more effective than the Astros' sign stealing. Every team showed the willingness to cheat in this way. With all that said: the fact that Altuve _refused to cheat_ on a team that was cheating, (even though he likely knew that other teams were doing it as well), makes him the most innocent man in baseball, in my eyes.

[@elliotrc]

If you know Spanish, you can 100% read Altuve’s lips saying “La camisa no, la camisa no” which means not the shirt, not the shirt…

[@aldogutierrez1060]

Yup

[@AstroLonghorn]

He openly admitted to saying that. He didn’t lie for a second about denying he didn’t want his shirt ripped

[@drbryant23]

I'm pretty sure it's English he's saying No NO I got a piece on. I got a PIECE ON!! He needed to make sure that the non-spanish speakers understood what he was saying. It doesn't make sense to shout only in Spanish.

[@___________________.]

@@drbryant23you can’t talk about not making sense and then talk about this widely disproven conspiracy theory as if it’s fact.

[@atrfan11]

@@drbryant23 holy shit lmaooooo bro go to sleep.

[@STStillwell]

As a Rangers fan back in 2013 that hadnt even heard about this scandal, thanks for putting this video out there. Idk if he cheated or not, but I never got that vibe from him once watching him play, interview, or interact with his team and others. I like the world better if I believe he didn't do it.

[@ilikesportskinda]

Yall say yall dont see a tattoo but yall also didnt see any buzzer

[@juans8356]

I'm a football (soccer for Americans) fan, but I decided to watch the last few weeks of baseball. And I got to say baseball fans can rival football for being some of the most toxic supporters. I'm actually amazed.

[@xavierlavoie9264]

College football fans are much worse, see the tennesse game vs ole miss.

[@xavierlavoie9264]

@yoda8802 not really, worse thing they did was throwing beers on field. College football fans are 100x more passionate about their teams

[@samuelbarrett5648]

Let's be truly honest-most sports fans in general, no matter the sport, are obnoxious, especially the more die-hard the fans get

[@somerandomguy5977]

Y'all literally have fans called hooligans and riots and shit. Baseball fans don't fucking riot. A guy got murdered in brazil for accidentally scoring his own goal. You'd be hard pressed to find a baseball fan killing somebody for a game losing error, even in the playoffs.

[@Jake_from_State_Farm]

@@xavierlavoie9264 go watch the Tennessee vs Ole Miss basketball game from 2 years before when Ole Miss did it to Tennessee. That’s the fact everyone likes to forget😂

[@SucceedRS]

To be honest it’s pretty crazy how good he is. I’m 5’6 145 lbs and cant imagine being good or strong enough to hit home runs

[@BOLIS]

Roids help

[@corradoscire8670]

technique is key

[@PomLamb]

145 lbs can offer a lot of torque. You got to put your weight in the swing. Like in boxing. Boxers are taught to put weight behind the punches to add more power.

[@Sir.InfinityTGK]

I can imagine it for myself but only imagine

[@billabongah]

You could! Just mad practice and taking care of your body the correct ways.

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

This is exactly like DeflateGate and Brady. The more I learn the more doubt I’m having that he’s actually guilty, but goddamn he sure put in an extraordinary effort to make himself look more suspicious than O.J. Simpson.

[@Obi-WanTapYT]

altuve absolutely popping off right now is all the proof you need to know my precious altuve didnt cheat. dude is so clutch. astros in 6

[@joshkaid]

It must suck to be the one guy who didn't cheat yet still be the one most harassed.

[@NCA_Azzy]

I feel no pity.

[@wtfyomom]

lmfao if you really think hes some saint that didnt cheat

[@elvincortez2111]

really?

[@NCA_Azzy]

@@wtfyomom They do. Smh.

[@danl.909]

@Ownerthekpwner Proof that he DIDN'T cheat at all? Do you not realize it is impossible to prove that kind of negative? You cannot PROVE that Judge "didn't cheat at all" when he hit 62 home runs. Can you prove he DIDN'T have some super secret kind of injections to improve his bat speed? Or implants to give him radar vision? Or help from space aliens? What we have is the fact that the cheating charges made against Altuve were not backed up by the evidence, which should be enough for any fair-minded person to let it go.

[@javierjaramillo5490]

He does not say "No, I got a piece on"... He said in perfect spanish: "No, la camisa no". This means: "No, not the shirt". Remember that the 2017 team had a bit more than its fair share of latinos latinos: Altuve, Correa, Gurriel, González and Bregman's spanish is also quite good.

[@coloradomodder]

Of course they would try and lip read what he said in English because a Spanish lip reading would mean he wasn't wearing a cheating device and he just didn't want his shirt to be removed! No! La camisa no! Is exactly what he said.

[@callme.geee_]

I’ll never forget it… Yankee fans were heard chanting “F altuve” in the 4th inning of a game in which the Yankees were playing the tigers 😂 No seriously, Altuve is one of my favorite players because he’s a small guy playing with guys that tower over him proving that it can be done. You can be below average height and play at a professional level. I think the tattoo story is really rocky, I believe that he wasn’t actively apart of it but since he knew I think there should be repercussions. And to this day, I think the Astros organization is receiving unneeded hate since most of that 2017 team doesn’t have even play in Houston anymore. The manager is different, most of the coaching staff is different and they’ve made trades, brought up youngsters and made changes that, I think, warrant a second chance.

[@jarrettfullerton2580]

Here's where I come out on this...if you think it's that wrong, speak up and say something. That's what a real person of integrity would do

[@TheIcecreamtaco]

The best kind of reporting is a telling a true story everyone needs to hear even if they don’t want to. Good job man

[@LucianDevine]

Agreed, it can't be easy to be surrounded by cheaters but have to just try and keep your mouth shut and do your job, despite all the things people are saying to and about you. So it's nice to see him get some vindication with more proof than the accusations, whether people believe it or not.

[@magicolmos]

@@LucianDevine where was the proof? This video presents only speculation

[@LucianDevine]

@@magicolmos Well, I did say more proof, but your point is fair. The video doesn't 100% prove that he's innocent, but it does provide more evidence to his innocence than the accusers of his cheating.

[@kevinscottbailey8335]

@@LucianDevine this video doesn't prove at all that he's innocent. It just speculates that the person making the video thinks he is innocent. He offers no proof just speculation

[@devenpatel5646]

You should just say you’re an astros fan next time

[@masonmills5917]

100% Altuve wasn't saying "I got a piece on" He was saying "La Camisa" (Shirt) As in dont rip my shirt. But whatevs

[@AaeriosYT]

He said exactly that in the video towards the end when he debunked the myths.

[@shawnmurphy9245]

He said “imma pizza”

[@tomzyrone3915]

I can’t honestly see altuve saying anything else except “no camisa”

[@killerdeviant]

Yea I kinda doubted he was speaking English

[@jimtincher7357]

An accomplice is just as guilty as the one committing the offense. He knew about and benefited from it. The Astro's should have had the World Series title vacated and all players and coaches banned from baseball for life.

[@jasonbayless6953]

José Altuve is probably one of the best players I know because every time I watch him it is so fun to watch both sides of the field😊😊❤❤

[@HarveyMeadowlark]

Someone had to be the scapegoat. It’s a shame it was altuve. I’m a Cleveland fan, I’m as critical as anyone about the astros sign stealing, but I don’t think altuve is the right guy to vilify.

[@davidcook680]

Oh please. They fing cheated big time. F the whole scumbag cheating team.

[@ric7053]

It's easy to make the best player the scapegoat

[@carlfrye1566]

When the Nats played the Astros in 2019 there were players from teams who said the Astros were stealing signs, they disguised their signs in Houston and The Astros couldn't hit worth a damn.

[@carlfrye1566]

Even if Altuve didn't cheat(yeah, sure) he knew about it and went along. For that the guilt is shared equaly by all.

[@NCA_Azzy]

On a shite team, where he was still complacent whether a participant or not is worth the animosity *especially* and magnified when you steal an MVP from one more deserving. That's why he's loathed.

[@braymiller656]

The Altuve situation is so crazy that when I went to Cooperstown All Star Village. We were sitting down waiting for our teams to be called when a team starts chanting “F Altuve” and banging on the tables. Some guy recorded this and posted it on Tik Tok. The video was later deleted and all the teams that participated in this chant were suspended and kicked out. There was more controversy’s that week to but that’s for another time. But still he was a good fielder but didn’t use cheats for that so I respect that.

[@Zack-kh3rb]

I played in a tournament there when I was a kid. I’m glad it’s still a thing. I’m in my 30s now and still have my jerseys and a ton of pins. My buddy threw a no hitter and I hit a go ahead home run. We lost in the semi finals though to the eventual champions. Wouldn’t trade that memory for anything.

[@bobbyjones7609]

@@Zack-kh3rb i took a team to the dreamspark tournament and got 2nd place. im 42 and going on that trip and watching my team play all the way to the championship might be better than any one moment for myself as a player. those tournaments are incredible experiences and the memories are the best

[@joemixon834]

People are so sensitive

[@maynard5474]

i remember seeing that tik tok

[@joeyweagle5213]

Nice to see even youth sporting events are ruined by sensitive adults.

[@stevenjacob7198]

I got a piece on?! Bro he said “¡La camisa no!” 😂💀

[@vladimiraltuve]

Just for the record: Forget about "I got a piece on", because he said, in the clearest spanish anybody can see: "La camisa no". That just means: "Not the jersey". And I'm just starting, BTW.

[@smallgraydonguy]

I wish people would watch the whole video before commenting

[@warlordofbritannia]

I like how this video is split into being the same story but told in different ways

[@corbenstanley8479]

It’s called a perspective

[@TheNumberScott]

It’s called stretching 3 minutes into 17

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@corbenstanley8479 Perspective implies a shared level of detail...the point here, I think, is that the first half was people rushing to judge Altuve before all could be known and adequately explained There's still a word for this, but dammit I can't come up with it lol

[@andrewk125]

@@warlordofbritannia hypocritical?

[@christopherwells7869]

@@TheNumberScott just because you can make a video shorter doesn't always make it better

[@greggwgiddensable]

And by the way... Even if he was an angel... He still let it go on.. He could have anonymously have contacted mlb as a whistle blower. He is GUILTY PERIOD bro.

[@Jumpforce21]

He just won the World Series two hours ago, congratulations to him 🥳🥳

[@nh55871]

Houston VS ALL them! Go 'stros!!!!

[@aaronaguilar9172]

as a dodgers fan, congrats to altuve!!!!!! after all the hate he’s gotten for something he didn’t do, he is now a legit world series champion

[@nickcappetti1103]

Still a cheater

[@rodzila8314]

@@nickcappetti1103 proof or it didn't happen

[@nickcappetti1103]

@@rodzila8314 the whole entire organization admitted to cheating wtf are you talking about? What proof is needed? He’s part of that organization correct? Win with the team cheat with the team your associates with everything with the team. He’s a fucking cheater. If he didn’t want to be known as one. Quit the fucking team.

[@yellowhammer44]

Excellent mini doc, great work. Altuve doesn’t need forgiveness, but an apology would be nice. I was guilty of wrongful judgment. Go Braves 2024

[@sethpython8968]

thats crazy, he did so well in the years leading up to their team being caught for cheating, then didn't do so hot after they were forced to stop cheating. must've been all the bullying i guess. smart thinkin

[@hyperactive371]

Sound logic until you realize how good he was in 2014, a year they definitely weren't cheating and were just a kinda meh organization in general in the midst of a rebuild or in 2021 with a good season and an OPS+ of 127 (and was good enough to be an MVP candidate once again) Or in 2022 when he had a stats on par with his 2017 MVP campaign

[@ilikesportskinda]

So him being good every year before the cheating and having one bad year after the cheating and then being on fire since means nothing

[@codyceynar6049]

The man is the perfect height to blast high fastballs because all he has to do is swing level and it's already underneath anything mid to upper strikezone

[@codyceynar6049]

@pwm2001 okay

[@john-reysalomon9852]

I know right? Haha the advantage of being short hehe

[@rustyshackleford6637]

especially if you have the Crawford boxes 315ft away

[@jmac1851]

@@rustyshackleford6637 look at his wrc+ and ops+, wOBA and xwOBA. he's good, with or without crawford boxes

[@rustyshackleford6637]

@@jmac1851 Haha I believe it I was just adding a joke to the first comment. I'm a Cardinal fan but I love Altuve he better be a first ballot HOF. I was at the game he got his 1000th career hit in 2016.

[@eduardodeluna98]

Lmao “I got a piece on” 😂😂 I hate the astros as much as the next guy but he’s really saying “la camisa no” 😂 (not the shirt)

[@brendan594]

Yeah. People forget English isn’t his most dominant language lol

[@Mthayn03]

@@brendan594 exacly. this man is so dumb bro, just assuming things.

[@cullenmatthews19]

@@Mthayn03 Watch the full video before commenting please. He explains how “I got a piece on” was incorrect.

[@cullenmatthews19]

Yes, that is exactly what the guy who made the video said.. in the video.

[@hgsmoth]

Ok so here "la camisa no" literally translates in English to "I got a piece on"

[@jimmyslim1793]

Where there is smoke, there is fire.

[@christopherharte4741]

As a guy with tattoos, the tattoo experts are full of crap. You have to take into account, place of the tattoo and pain threshold of that person getting the tattoo. If the person getting the tattoo has a small pain threshold the artist will stop and have them come back later to finish, i.e. making it two visits

[@joseking8830]

Altuve is thee perfect example of what "Heart over Height" looks like. Dude is the freaken man bro. Mad respect

[@WTFTVJS]

I mean he is cheater

[@kaliko-]

@@WTFTVJS Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video LMFAO

[@thereisnosuchthingasanativ904]

Look up how bad all the Astro stats fell off after 2019. That’s called circumstantial evidence my guy lol. “No evidence” my butt.

[@alliedanchor8864]

@@WTFTVJS did you not watch the video?

[@hoodiegriffo]

dude i didn’t even know you released this video and literally as a white sox fan all day yesterday i was trying to explain to people that the sox didn’t choke anything really. we just flat out got beat by a really damn good baseball team but the casual fan isn’t read for that conversation yet. tipping my cap to them boys in houston they can ball under pressure.

[@chestrockwell1794]

Those grand silames tho. Woof

[@hoodiegriffo]

@@chestrockwell1794 the red sox are playing mlb the show rookie mode in the playoffs right now my god they can rake.

[@profligatepassages]

@@hoodiegriffo have you seen the astros pitchers in the series? It's sad to watch almost. Or it leads you to wonder if the Redsox went back to sign stealing on those Apple watches lmao, I kid I kid.

[@hemersonguerrero961]

@@hoodiegriffo my Astros clawed back yesterday just beware we no got down that easily big dawg

[@BrendenNichols]

It was a good series. The Red Sox played their hearts out and exceeded expectations. They made Houston sweat. Congrats on a great season, Boston.

[@jgdar]

He didn’t say “I got a piece on”, 0:44 he said in Spanish “La camisa no”, which translates to “not the jersey” basically asking his teammates to not take his jersey off.

[@floorsbychrisable]

I don't watch baseball or care too much about it, I just find cheating in sports very interesting. Even if this guy didn't directly participate in the system of cheating, he reaped the rewards and he said nothing. He deserves some ridicule

[@omalleycaboose5937]

This is pretty reasonable... but many of the people much more responsible just sorta got it forgiven, especially when going to work for other teams while the man most reluctant about it became the face of it

[@MrH.09]

He doesn't deserve to be the most hated though..

[@Rocky2418]

It's funny. I'm a lifelong Yankee fan, and I seem to be one of the few Yankee fans I know that never hated Altuve, and that honestly didn't believe that he specifically had cheated. I was disgusted with others on that team, like Correa, who was the most defensive and unapologetic about the whole thing. I didn't sense that attitude with Altuve at all. To the contrary, throughout the whole scandal reveal and blowback, he just seemed to keep his head down and stay quiet. He has always come across to me like a person who's had to work hard and overachieve his whole life just to get a chance to succeed, due to his height. It honestly made no sense to me that someone who had worked so hard like that would then decide to start cheating, so this video's showing of Altuve not wanting to be involved with the scandal doesn't really surprise me. And I truly feel for him getting the brunt of the malice, as the face of the team. The fact that he struggled so mightily in 2020 isn't surprising at all, having to live with that every day. Even moments after he hit the 2019 HR against Chapman and I watched him interviewed, he just came across as a genuinely humble person (and mind you, that's how I was seeing him just minutes after he had ended my team's season - in other words, I wasn't exactly perceiving that at a time when I was particularly happy with him). I don't know if that's how he really is, of course - it's just how I've seen him.

[@dennischen5367]

Fully agreed - I feel like Correa and Bregman attracted most of the hate to the Astros, rather than Altuve

[@iamhungey12345]

@@dennischen5367 It's the reason why I'm not sure if the Yankees should go for the guy this offseason even though he said when wants to join the pinstripes. Bad enough that Correa was in deep more than Altuve. Plus we already have an elephant in the room with the time when Beltran was employed by the team for few years after his retirement...

[@xgoodmemoriexx2502]

Tuff luck cause Yankees and the Red Sox cheated too

[@SmoothCriminal12]

@@xgoodmemoriexx2502 red Sox were never proven to have cheated in 2018 and Cora was suspended for his Astros stuff. Get your facts straight.

[@jmad627]

Lifelong Yankee fan here as well and have hated only a few players and that was only briefly while they played against us. Time heels all wounds. For example I certainly don’t hate George Brett anymore, if I ever really did, as it was more fear than anything else. Now as far as fans go, Red Sox fans in general I dislike, as they hate like no one else. Players on that team…it depended. These days I couldn’t care less. I rarely watch any professional team sports these days.

[@FrankieG713]

Altuve doesnt say "i got a piece on, no" he says "La Camiza no"

[@jairmorales2462]

It’s true

[@ceebee8042]

Doesn’t even matter. He was there, benefited, and never spoke up. Acquiesced. It’s like the felony murder rule. You participated, so you’re liable too even if you weren’t a robber or the shooter but only drove the getaway car.

[@FrankieG713]

@@ceebee8042 but almost everyone in the MLB cheats tho? So many cases of people and steroids SO MANY CASES of teams using PINE TAR. When the catcher goes to the pitcher to speak you always see them cover up their mouths so people cant read their lips and know what they are talking about why? Cuz they know people are watching and could relay that information to the other team you rarely see that in sports where players cover up their mouths so to me the MLB is a bunch hypocrites idk why the astros taking so much heat as if every other team was so pure and honest and they were the only rotten dirty ones.

[@d.d.7720]

Camisa*

[@coltronh7355]

Yeah, the video literally points that out.

[@ianitor]

guess what: knowing about a cheating scandal your team is perpetuating and not reporting it IS cheating

[@JustNic]

ok buddy

[@Zilzalag]

100%

[@ianitor]

@justnic keep washing your hands Lady Macbeth

[@JustNic]

@@ianitor ok buddy

[@08Derrock]

so Derek Jeter is a cheater?

[@staffsaber534]

To me, it doesn't really matter if he partook or didn't. He knew it was happening and said nothing. His integrity is still in question.

[@victoraviles7817]

He told his team mates to stop and that he didn’t agree with it. You can’t expect someone to be a whistle blower against the only organization that gave him a chance and also against people he was extremely close to. You just want a reason to hate him.

[@DaemonPix]

Clearly you have never played sports and don't know anything about brotherhood.

[@staffsaber534]

@@DaemonPix I've played plenty of sports. And as someone with brothers - letting your brothers do something wrong is not okay.

[@amm6112]

I can’t believe how you can consistently put out such high quality and interesting topics. Thank you dude, keep it up.

[@MorganInForm]

I legit didn't realize how many great stories took place within baseball, glad to be following now

[@amm6112]

@Taylor Gardner then why are you here lmao

[@amm6112]

@Taylor Gardner lmao bro chill

[@amm6112]

I like to think this is the dateline or 60 Minutes of the MLB

[@MorganInForm]

@Taylor Gardner Sometimes there's updates that make sense to add on, but I agree, I hate people who just watch the office over and over

[@donkeykongenjoyer]

Most underrated channel on the platform.

[@cadecs.]

Fr

[@ronnakraj]

Absolutely

[@landonpatton7997]

I see no lies here

[@paraskep5080]

agreed.

[@braxtonpeden5571]

Major facts ⚾️

[@user-jt6pm6pf6m]

it makes no sense, almost every single team did it but only 1 players reputation is getting tarnished, what's about cookie betts and the Red Sox, yankees and many more. also its been 6 years so why are we still on this topic

[@internetzenmaster8952]

Well, Altuve can take solace in the fact he didn't end up like Shoeless Joe Jackson of the infamous Black Sox if nothing else.

[@Vahiey]

The tattoo could’ve taken two sessions no matter how small, depending on time restrictions or even excessive bleeding

[@ProperSlic]

Or if part way through he didn't like what he was seeing and wanted to go to someone else

[@avacadomangobanana2588]

You couldn’t see any tat and he changed his story and his lips seemed to make sense and the bandaid was kinda bisable

[@User-hv5wm]

It was a thin word tattoo ….

[@erikthebarbaric8721]

@@avacadomangobanana2588 if you watch the video all the way through you can see his tattoo from a different angle in the same game. The video creator said that the view ur talking about is just a bad angle. Also if you watch the video all the way through, again, you can see that he says no camiza. Altuve doesn’t speak very good English, so it would make sense for him to speak Spanish

[@claytoncourtney1309]

and the idea that his wife did not want him to take his shirt off still meshes with the tattoo story. If it was a bad tattoo his wife may not have wanted others to see it.

[@woodpeka4043]

This is a real situation is where since his confidence went down, his success went down. So when you feel like everyone is booing you (or know everyone is) don’t let it get to you. And prove them wrong. This also happened with Josh Donaldson in his freshman year (I think) But came to be one of the best players in the MLB. And got the MVP award. Never give your hopes up.

[@woodcutta6461]

Uhh, Donaldson hasn't won four MVPs. He has the one.

[@woodpeka4043]

@@woodcutta6461 oops, I must’ve misclicked or something. Thanks for letting me know

[@claytoncourtney1309]

Except in this case he can't prove them wrong because not matter what happened after those people still thought he cheated and doing great will not change their minds.

[@jimwerther]

@@woodpeka4043 Except Altuve is actually a good guy. Can't say the same for Donaldson.

[@ShortRound42]

@@jimwerther BOTH are good guys. Just because like Josh is a hot head, doesn't mean you're a bad guy. It's his fiery competitiveness. There's been hundreds of players through the entire history of baseball that are hot heads on the field. But outside are good people and teammates love them. A bad person is if they hit their wives or they assault or steal, etc. Not being a hot head in a game. Even Billy Martin with the drinking and fighting felt so much remorse and tried to make amends, people still loved him.

[@ericnunez9112]

He got the tattoo in San Francisco but they never played in San Francisco? You know where Oakland is right?

[@braymysteriofan]

So all this aside, can someone explain how those throws to 1st base were considered the thrower's error & not the 1st baseman's error? Because to me, those throws looked fine, the ball got to the 1st baseman in time & hit him in the glove. Wouldn't the fault of those errors then fall on the 1st baseman because he couldn't catch the ball? That's what it looks like to me anyway

[@_lumpia]

I remember seeing a documentary on Altuve where he worked out other tired and played bottle cap baseball. Along with him being short, he was an inspiration to me and I even got his glove

[@Jacob-es5tv]

it’s disappointing because i looked up to him as well and thought he was a really good dude. Everyone makes mistakes but idk what to think about him anymore.

[@suppressed_viii]

@@Jacob-es5tv not an Astros fan, but I truly believe that he should be forgiven, especially because hes been proven to not cheat. He was good before the scandal and now after. He was stuck in a shitty situation and had to stay quiet because of the team he was on.

[@larry2281]

@@suppressed_viii “proven he did not cheat” lol whatever helps you sleep at night buddy. They cheated for 3 years. He doesn’t deserve to be forgiven. Stole a MVP from Judge, doesn’t deserve the World Series. If Pete Rose is banned for life for messing with the “integrity” of the game but yet you have an entire Astros team cheating with a player driven scheme and that isn’t considering messing with the integrity of the game, then there is something wrong here. Either Pete Rose gets unbanned from baseball or the entire Astros roster deserves to be banned.

[@suppressed_viii]

@@larry2281 I know it really sucks knowing that he played for a cheating team and he somewhat benefited from it, he didn't cheat. He's been doing what he's been doing since he started playing in the majors. And while I think there needs to be an asterisk on all the awards and records, he should be recognized for being a damn good ballplayer. Miguel Cabrera, one of the greatest hitters to have played baseball, thinks he didn't cheat. David Ortiz has said the same thing. Cheating in baseball has been rampant since the beginning of baseball. And if teams can get away with Spider Tack and other substances, then I'll let Altuve slide on this one. It's easy to get mad and angry at a face, especially if its the star of the team that did it.

[@suppressed_viii]

@@larry2281 And Pete Rose shouldn't be banned from baseball. He should be in the Hall, just like Barry should. Only reason Bonds isn't is because of the media, and they love holding the only power they have. Pete Rose should've been unbanned for a long time now but beanhead Manfred doesn't do anything right.

[@elroyjennings7833]

Even if they didn't steal signs, having other players on your team getting on base by stealing signs is an advantage. You get a better batting average and more RBIs with runners on base.

[@Dudeman9339]

Not cheating and “looking the other way while the rest of your team cheats” are different things.

[@FeelsLikeDboss]

No they are not

[@derpyoctopus4217]

@@FeelsLikeDbossyes they are there’s no way you can expect him to ruin his career to expose his teammates

[@bmac4]

Altuve has been elite yet again in 2021 after how dismal last year was. Unless the Astros have some new grand cheating scheme for hitters (which is very plausible but I have some doubts given how much more scrutiny theyre probably under from MLB officiating), I think that Altuve is just really good at baseball, regardless.

[@Devin03_]

this man won batting titles, back in 2014, 2016. BEFORE the scandal. he’s a professional baseball player. if y’all actually look at evidence, the scheme hurt them more than benefited them. they were giving him bangs at his AB’s and you can look at videos of him getting frustrated with it. and if y’all believe he had buzzers, then y’all are dumb, for even listening to that fat dude jomboy and that women beater trevor bauer.

[@raz1683]

@@Devin03_ Astros fucked around and found out.They deserved all the scrutiny they are under. Sure, Altuve doesn't deserve this kind of treatment but with him being unclear and making it confusing really doesn't help him at all

[@judahgordon6213]

Barry binds was a great player and an mvp but he juiced

[@ShaqFuGuru]

Of course he’s really good. Never stopped other great players from cheating with PEDs or other things.

[@squeegied3rdeye413]

@@raz1683 there was nothing unclear or confusing about the curb stomping Altuve and the Astros placed upon the White Sox today

[@matthewtaylor1592]

i love how the Boston red Soxs probably cheated just as much but nobody talks about that

[@brandonb.288]

Yankees, Mets and Dodgers as well. My uncle played for the White Sox in the 1990s. He said sign stealing from the outfield with a relay to the dugout has been going on since the 1970s at least. The pitchers and catchers know what to listen for and change the signs when they think something is suspicious. Sign stealing with binoculars has been around for 50+ years and all the teams know it. They needed a 'heel' and to get some media and stir things up (think bad guy, good guy like WWE) and the Astros were the perfect target: i.e. smaller viewer market, etc.

[@matthewtaylor1592]

could not agree more!!👏👏

[@gracelayne3739]

The red sox cheated in a different way that only worked with a runner on second so it had a much smaller impact than the astros every pitch

[@jamescarter7902]

At :40 sec of vid, if you speak Spanish you can 99.9% interpret what he said: “La camisa no! La camisa no!” “Not the shirt, not the shirt” in English. Not “I got a piece on” 😂

[@DettmersNate]

Knowing your teammates are cheating and playing on the same team is still cheating!

[@mrluisrodriguez]

He's not saying "I got a piece on. No!" He's saying "La camisa no! La camisa no!" in Spanish which translates to "Not the shirt! Not the shirt!".

[@tc1225]

He points that out in the video. 13:50

[@larry2281]

Yeah, hit a walk off home run off Chapman to send your team to the World Series and the first thing that comes to your mind is “don’t rip off my jersey” and “let me go to the tunnel to change my shirt before my interview” That’s normal. Quit defending cheaters bum. Delusional Astros fans.

[@johnnierico9644]

Dude stfu! Chapman sucks! Every Stankees fans knows that!!!

[@dannydornacher8109]

@@johnnierico9644 subject changers this is about the little dude that cheats.

[@mrluisrodriguez]

@@tc1225 I saw. I commented too early lol. Thanks for pointing it out.

[@EBJTHEKING]

Altuve never said “I got a piece on, no! I got a piece on, no!” He said “La camisa, no! La camisa, no!”. That’s Spanish for “Not the shirt, not the shirt!”

[@Isaac-lt6fk]

No one ever thought he said “I got a piece on,” they always thought he said “La camisa, no.” Seems pretty sus that he hits a walkoff home run to send his team to the World Series and his first thought is “don’t take off my jersey”

[@drippymadman]

@@Isaac-lt6fk cause he had a fucked up tattoo

[@edisonparra549]

@@Isaac-lt6fk His excuse was that his wife doesn't like it when he's shirtless in public. Seems reasonable knowing how some Venezuelan Women are. Then the team used the Tattoo excuse. To me, he's just a dude who's pretty shy and perhaps insecure about things. People just put all the blame on him. Dude is human too.

[@hectormorales6175]

@UCb5mmhcugIq_d26wlupJy7w you’re full of shit… cause when Altive walked off this year against the Yankees they ripped his shirt off as taunt to the Yankees… don’t make up excuses for digusting acts… Why didn’t Altuve stopped them then?

[@brashadp]

Yea the video creator REACHED all throughout this video..

[@ssok4133]

I’m a little confused how you can claim he didn’t cheat.

[@zombi3907]

I think it's pretty well documented he resented and shut down taking stolen signs via trash cans. And dude is 5'5 inches tall and won the freaking MVP and is a multiple time all star, coming from a dirt poor upbringing that isn't even conceivable for the vast majority of Americans. The dude is fucking incredible. I hate the Astros and think the organization should have been severely punished. But Altuve is amazing and someone I showed to my short kid who didn't think he could be good at baseball to motivate him, and then he got really, really good. I don't think most people understand how insanely myopic, hidebound, and utterly resistant to innovation, change or difference baseball management is. For Altuve to make a team at all took a level of dedication and hard work most people will never even witness, let alone comprehend, let alone achieve, and for him to be on multiple all star teams and win an MVP award is just insane and won't be matched again for a long time if ever. Appreciate this dude while he is playing, because in all likelihood you won't see anything like it again in your lifetime. He is a freaking Unicorn.

[@ronancullen9874]

From someone who hates the Astros a lot, I gotta say I feel bad for Altuve, one of my favourite players in baseball, mans didn’t deserve all that hate, happy to see him comeback the next year and have a good bounce back season

[@HOU1996]

He is the nicest player in baseball. Tied with Shohei.

[@ransomparrish4103]

I recall that year 2017 that in the investigation that 4 players didn't like the trash cans....Altuve, Reddick, McCann, and Tony Kemp.

[@___________________.]

@@saberswordsmen1he still is a good kid

[@jordachejordan90]

If Shoeless Joe Jackson had you, his legacy would still be intact.

[@jonnycolt3124]

lolololol

[@Im-_-Ghidorah]

I remember when I was in my freshman year and hadn’t grown yet I always looked up to altuve. He was my hero and when the report came out it broke my heart. He still is one of my favorite players and have forgiven him

[@BrandonAEnglish]

No forgiveness needed when he did nothing wrong. People should be apologizing to HIM.

[@KonFry]

Forgiven him for what? Did you not watch the video...

[@BrandonAEnglish]

@@KonFry of course I watched it. I'm not talking about the video, I'm talking about "Baseball Doesn't Exist's" pinned comment: "Do you guys forgive Altuve yet?"

[@KonFry]

@@BrandonAEnglish My comment was directed at the original comment

[@SaltoDaKid]

Even if he was guilty have respect his grind but we need learn our failure and know what’s acceptable. I do feel like he’s innocent but sports fan are too dumb and ignorant to have empathy for a player.

[@twentykeys]

such a good edit at around 5 mins when the song is on subbed

[@socalangler4082]

I've been saying this about altuve. Look at that AB vs chapman in the 2019 ALCS. First two pitches are fastballs wildly out of the zone. Chapman known for his lack of control and Chapman had one other pitch he can go to during this year which was his slider. 2-0 pitch, he hangs a slider for strike one. EVERYONE that was actually watching the game and knows baseball already knew what he's gonna throw for the 2-1 pitch. You didn't need to cheat to figure that out honestly. He hung another slider to send the astros to the WS. Chapman been choking look at the final game 2016 WS. The only reason it went to extras was because of Chapman. Some "fans" need to learn the sport a little more. I didn't like what Correa said during the interviews following the release of the scandal, but I believed him when he said Altuve didn't cheat.

[@juancompeanjc]

Batting is like an oversimplified paper rock scissors, i called chapmans slider just like i called rendons fastball that correa smacked to give the astros a 2-1 lead today, if i can figure it out and i never went passed hs varsity ball then obviously world class hitters can too 😂

[@socalangler4082]

@@juancompeanjc I mean, oversimplified might be an exaggeration but I get what you're saying. I agree for the most part. But believe it or not, most fans don't see things in the way people who understand the game at a deeper level. It's the way it is. Ask 90% of the dodger fan base. Lol I love watching the dodgers, but Jesus Christ their fanbase is full of people who don't know anything about the sport.

[@H-Town_83]

Also the catcher didnt put down a sign on that homerun

[@Davo2233]

Preach

[@cubpernicus]

Correa was caught lying but I believe this one thing he said about Altuve simply because I want to. Am I doing it right?

[@YaBoiJrue]

This leaves out a key detail. Altuve was the best player on the Astros, the MVP, which would make him the leader of the locker room. He didn’t do anything to stop the cheating or anything to expose it despite knowing it was going on. At best he’s an accessory to the whole scandal and deserves at least some of the blame.

[@craigisapunk]

THANK YOU. I don't get how more people aren't talking about this? He was the undoubted leader of the clubhouse.

[@randysanchez3720]

Deserves blame? Yes Deserves more hate than practically everyone else on the team? NO

[@mike-0451]

@@craigisapunk he literally isn’t the leader of the clubhouse. It’s even been stated out right that Carlos Correa fulfills the leadership role for the Astros.

[@CrimsonElite_Prodz]

@@mike-0451 ikr

[@respectablecarbuilding5950]

Correa is by far the leader of the locker room

[@OmegaMaschennar]

He should have spoken up, but he didn't want to snitch on his team possibly. Everyone makes mistakes and i would forgive him.

[@beastlygamers7779]

Cheating isn’t a mistake. He sat by and watched it happen. He’s on the line for it just as much as the others.

[@nicolaspepi9554]

@@beastlygamers7779found the dodger fan. Y’all have a long hx of cheating

[@bananabandit2]

​@beastlygamers7779 too bad they won the ws again last year

[@zikalokof1challenge414]

@@beastlygamers7779 If you do something about it your team dumps you. Simple as that

[@claude122]

@@zikalokof1challenge414i would prefer being dumped in another team than winning with cheaters and get my reputation hurt for the rest of my career - clearly will never get voted for the HOF