Basics of Dante Networking for Location Sound

The Audinate Dante protocol is a powerful tool for sharing multiple channels of digital audio between devices. Peter Schneider and WIll Colding show off a small-scale demonstration rig and go over the basics and terminology.
Equipment used:
Behringer X-32 Producer Console: www.gothamsoun...
Sound Devices 970: www.gothamsoun...
Cisco SG300-10 Managed Switch: www.cisco.com/...
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Audinate Dante Controller: www.audinate.c...

[@thelostproph3t]

This video is one and a half years old at this point, but I've learned a lot about implementing Dante into my systems. Thank you very much. Thank you for the time.

[@hanirw5]

where i can find the new vidoes .. and thanks

[@GreatBoneStructure]

Screwing up is so educational. It got me where I am today.

[@lesterjuan5380]

well, I think this is the best tutorial video. Real World risk taking and real world errors and real solutions. Thank You guys!!

[@MrCujo1]

Also, thank you for leaving in the "errors" -- Guys like me learn from making mistakes and it's good to see the diagnostics on the fly.

[@deafdave6468]

So honest! ;-)

[@renod42]

I like to have all primary cables red and all secondary yellow, non redundant blue.

[@migueldejesus2811]

Very good seminar for people they don't know about Dante network system

[@trockee]

Thank you for this it might just save my life

[@Snipersounds]

This was SOLID GOLD! Thanks so much for the info guys!

[@Douglas_Gillette]

One of the main benefits of networking is scalability and fewer cables. This seems impractical for on location where all the equipment is nearby and the space is fixed to a filming location.

[@kingrpriddick]

To clarify some network details and fuel further research for any readers. A more complete way to describe the situation discussed at kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJPMnYGEnq91ipY is to say an ethernet device that is configured for DHCP but can not find a DHCP server assigns itself a randomly generated link-local IPv4 address. This is bad for a computer that needs to be routed through a gateway to another network like one across the internet but is somewhat fine for an airgapped network and should be totaly fine for a network as simple as a Dante network. When I say a Dante network is simple I mean it has no need for VLANs or distribution and access layer switches or printer servers or DNS servers or Domain Controllers or file servers, these are things you would find in even a small business network.

[@tuckertuff]

Good job, fellas! Enjoyed the video!

[@abecoulter8550]

you need to get higher CRI studio lights...you look as green as the plants behind you

[@carnalsoul100]

"Australia is a Brooklyn too" I loled so hard.

[@johnhopkins6260]

Reason I ended up here: searching for solution where (with dedicated PC, where necessary) for multi-channel audio playback; e.g. stereo, 3-way "active" speaker system, active crossover (slope, phase, delay) where audio signal is divided (High/Mid/Low) for "active" speaker system - e.g. each speaker/driver driven by dedicated amplifier - 6 channels... expansion to sub-woofer channel also(?)... audio signals would be standard 192kHz/24-bit PCM (also FLAC files... DSD???)... possibly also 5.1? (likewise, active speaker systems)

[@leoshaoran]

Ótima aula.

[@adifferentstorymusic]

The guy on the left is literally Glenn Howerton and Mark Ruffalo put together

[@fastbobby504]

I am interested in creating a Dante network without any Dante-Enabled gear. I know they have adapters that you can buy that plug into your devices and converts the audio to IP. Is it possible to create a Dante Studio without having a mixer that is Dante-Enabled?

[@livegospeltv6728]

Where are the trunk lines ?

[@trevorsbass]

The video was very good, but I REALLY wanted Will to explain the purpose of the 3rd Ethernet cable being plugged into the back of the X32. What is the purpose of that?

[@Craig_Anderson]

That's the regular networking port on the console for network control via phone apps.

[@elkalossusilo227]

So theoretically or even can be practically, if i use dante, i can basically add my outputs. But can it be, if i use dante for additional outputs for my PA speakers and the orginial outputs from my Digital mixers for personal IEM?

[@lindland1]

I have a Unifi set up in my studio would that work fine I would only have one Danta audio interface on the network.

[@jasonbennett5184]

at 42:12 minutes, WHO WAS THAT GUY??? seriously confused the hell out of me. context???

[@jeanalamour]

Thank you for the lesson! Can I connect dante to behringer ultranet for the in ears?

[@srsh1]

I just got around to seeing this. My question is about managed versus un-managed switches. Peter clearly states that using managed switches is 'optimal'. But after going through the level one of Dante certification I get completely the opposite idea. In fact I got the idea that using managed switches could sometimes get you into needless issues. That one is better off using an un-managed switch. Care to comment. Thanks for the video, very useful.

[@AllenPendleton]

managed switches will have more overhead with stp and npd running in the background. I'm a network admin.

[@srsh1]

@@AllenPendleton Thanks

[@wilfcm8911]

Realy helpfull, In the begining, i thaugh i could simply connect my Lynx Hilo directly to my Focsurite RedNet pcie card. (Direct plug n play like USB audio interfaces) At my surprise, Dante Control Software din't detect nothing. I thaugh there was a hardware or driver probleme. Ableton detect focsurite driver but show error when i click on it. So in the end, a gigabits switch is part of the connection. Audio interfaces and PC must be connected to the gigabits switch. Otherwise, Dante Control software wont detect the audio interfaces. Let me know if i'm wrong Getting one today

[@novuskin]

Great video guys. Would anyone know if there are any advantages applicable for broadcast sound between the Cisco SG300 & the SG350 switch? I would love to know any practical advice as to which is better for a TV/Broadcast scenario.

[@PeterSchneider1]

Thanks Daniel - The SG350 is as far as I know an updated version of the 300 - we have spec'd them in a few installs without issue. Here's something that may not be obvious: the SG350-10 *non* P (aka POE) version runs on 12V DC.

[@novuskin]

@@PeterSchneider1 Thanks for this, it seems the Cisco SG series are one of the most popular. Is there another version that does not require to be run on 12V DC? Would be handy for field installations.

[@bigdaddy4302]

Omg Jonah Hill is so skinny now

[@Buller_Soensen_Lyd]

Why not just make a small avio that can run all media at once AES50, AES67, Dante, MADI!

[@yevheniimelnyk8911]

I have tough question: one of my Mac keep getting “latency status red”, my Dante virtual sound card set to 10 msec and I have 12+ which brings me crack,click,and distorted sound, any suggestions?

[@PeterSchneider1]

Without knowing your complete setup, hardware and software, I can't help you troubleshoot.

[@MrCujo1]

So, am I understanding properly that wordclock is not really necessary between devices ??

[@PeterSchneider1]

Correct - word clock is not necessary between devices, but rather word clock should be connected to one device, which is then manually selected to be the Dante clock master. All other Dante devices will slave their timing to that device. The master device should also have "slave to external wc" check in the Dante Controller.

[@MrTommySullivan]

What is the purpose of the 970 device? It's a device on the network, but what is it doing?

[@njh209]

The 970 is the audio recorder in this setup.

[@planetsofgraceofficial4249]

@@njh209 So in the DAW/Main computer, any tracks that are recorded will go to the 970's hard drives? Is there an advantage to using the 970 as opposed to the main computer's hard drive? I don't think the 970 does the ADC or DAC. Wouldn't it make more sense to have a good converter (Dante) that does ADC and DAC, and then have that audio sit on the main computer's drive? I'm trying to understand what the advantage is of the 970, as it is not a budget piece of gear.

[@njh209]

@@planetsofgraceofficial4249 In this situation the 970 is the only audio recorder. The computer is only there to use as a Dante network controller. The 970 is typically used in live sound recording situations like films or reality TV shows where there is certain amount of portability required.

[@SoundSpeeding]

@@njh209 although I believe you could make a Laptop be recording as well at the same time, as a back up to the Sound Devices 970

[@njh209]

@@SoundSpeeding You are absolutely right!

[@larryparvin6475]

Will Dante work with MoCA?

[@PeterSchneider1]

Larry what are you wanting to do? Dante isn't designed to cross subnets.

[@jakubwodarczyk469]

Hi, i have Cisco SG300 10port switch, how to configure this for Dante Network. I done the configuration from Yamaha website. My iP adress for switch is 192.168.0.254, but I must set a dhcp for each of ports ? Pleas tell me how is Yours switch configured? Thanks for answer ; )

[@Douglas_Gillette]

No. The only interface that requires an address is the management interface which is actually a virtual interface. This virtual interface is logically connected to the switch. All the physical ports are access ports.

[@АлексейСоколов-с2ф]

Здраствуйте! могу ли я использовать обычную ehernet сеть подключеннный через комутатор передавать мультиканальное аудио или нет?

[@PeterSchneider1]

Yes as long as it follows these guidelines: www.audinate.com/faq/what-features-are-important-when-purchasing-switch

[@amdenis]

Great-- very informative. Such a fast-moving tech/products. Those plants just push you over the top though! (sorry, just trying to be a little funny)

[@paulsarodh5460]

Superb info 🔺️🔻🔻🔺️😂🤣

[@dpyles9396]

I appreciate the effort and I tried to watch it but all the Uuummmm uummm ummm got to me. thanks for trying!

[@seananderson9346]

router != switch

[@alvinyow3713]

ummmh....

[@MintiePro]

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