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In this video, Jake gives you all the essentials you need to get the Dante Protocol up and running at your church. Dante is an awesome tool that allows you to route all of your audio through ethernet cabling instead of analog interfaces.
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[@Churchfront]

As other commenters have pointed out, make sure you get a business-grade network switch that is managed and you can disable EEE. The ones we used making this video were not that. Here is one I found for around $50 that should work fine: amzn.to/2LINogV

[@christianjosephvalmocena5032]

Can we put router with internet on Dante Network Switch?

[@Sisentiq]

@@christianjosephvalmocena5032 not recommended according to these guys kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJPMnYGEnq91ipY but you can i suppose...

[@SimiRagia]

Hi Jake, i'm planning to use Dante AVIO in our church. Will the Netgear ProSafe Plus 5-Port Gigabit Ethernet Switch GS105E-200NAS you mentioned on the link provided above work for Dante AVIO USB Adapters including one- and two-channel versions of the analog input and analog output adapters and AES3 adapters? is power over ethernet (PoE) available on this switch? what is your recommendation on ethernet switches? Thanks!

[@CWI565]

Been waiting on this. Thank you so much for being light to this tech!!!

[@SmokyJ4]

Bless you Man!!!! Flawless breakdown and delivery!! Really blessed me!!!! 🙏🏾🙌🏾

[@benstagram97]

Been wondering about how to run a Dante setup for a while. Haven’t found a good video until now! Thanks!

[@roderickjmusic]

This is FANTASTIC! Thanks for the breakdown!

[@TikAcademy]

I love to watch these videos that teach these valuable tips to praise the Lord!, Blessings.

[@88mcleod]

You my brother are such a blessing and legend!! I have been puzzling! Trying to figure out how and why to use Dante. This has given me more understanding than the tech guy who installed it did. Going to sort out all our issues this week!!! Legend man! Thanks for the effort and Sharing such great content. Busy tweaking lights now as well. THANKS TO YOUR LIGHTING VIDS 😋😎 much love from South Africa 🇿🇦

[@armandocifuentes6249]

Thank you so much for this content we’re actually going to do that exact set up today at my church thank you may God continue to bless you and your ministry

[@MultiDougster]

I've been holding off adding Dante to our Allen & Heath digital mixer until I understand the process better. You gave the best most concise description I've heard in my research. Well done!

[@Churchfront]

Thanks Doug!

[@lukeroberson7028]

Dante also offers their free training online. Super great tool, The whole worship staff and audio volunteers are required to have it.

[@Darcity1]

I second that motion....The BEST description!!!

[@justinlee3356]

Learn Dente Here start with "getting started with dente"

[@marcfaur]

Just what I was searching for. Thank you!

[@r0bertfrank]

absolutely amazing guide. thanks very much!

[@jjwinsley3776]

Thank tou brother. This was really helpful to understand dante setup.

[@austenalbert832]

We love Dante at my church!

[@user-zj8rs3xz2f]

Looks like I'm late to this party, but THANK YOU!!! for this video! I just got some equipment to set us up with Dante but needed some help with the nuts and bolts. This was so helpful.

[@sirdrakey]

Oh man so much great information!

[@gregoryrouse8889]

Dope! Nice job my man!

[@imsun8812]

Thanks for explaining nicely. Great video clip.

[@TroyNahrwold]

Yes! Always on the cutting edge Jake! Thanks for the info, and I'm gonna have to see if we can get info this one. And they DO still put Ethernet ports on computers... just not Apple computers🤣🤣

[@lifesouthbaychurch]

Came here to say this, they even make laptops with 2 x GbE ports!

[@ennis437]

or you could be running a tried and true mid 2012 MacBook Pro model with NO Dongles and still has plenty of power! We have never had an issue with ours automating lights lyrics and Ableton all with no dongles! LOL

[@precisionsoundworksstudio]

Great overview!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙏🏻

[@rochieb5555]

So helpful. My church just transferred to donte so it's very new for as a a sound technician.

[@juliakolasinska]

Thanks! worth to watch it! soo good

[@minghon2460]

Thanks for posting this Jake! Such great information! I wish I watched this video before I implemented Dante at our church. We're running an Allen and Heath GLD80 with the Dante Module and love it!!! A couple of gotchas with Dante that I experienced: 1. You cannot use both Dante Virtual Soundcard (DVS) and Via on the same computer at the same time. 2. DVS allows up to 64 channels but Via has a maximum of 16 channels. 3. Many DAW's only recognize one audio interface at a time so if DVS or Via is the interface, you will have to monitor your DAW through Dante unless you are using a Mac which allows you to create an aggregate device. Windows on the other hand does not have a native way to aggregate devices. I tried using ASIO4All but couldn't get it working with DVS (it worked with Via). Finally I got it to work using one of the Dante Avio devices to route the signal to an audio interface to drive my monitors. If there is a better way I would love to learn it.

[@Gerardoxelo]

Did you have issues with running PT on an aggregate device? Thinking of going there Avio route and just put my interface on the network. Trying to avoid buying the Dante Avid racks just to monitor my mix without affecting the main livestream feed

[@freemandiaz5123]

Great explanation. I can see how Worship Tech School would a great investment.

[@Churchfront]

Thanks bro

[@joshuamwenyi7008]

Wow! I am in Uganda and I have been looking for a modern system that I can build for my local church sound. I was told about Dante, but it was really confusing me, but you have broken it down. Thank you. Looking forward to having you come down to Africa and help churches down here build a sound system for the glory of Christ.

[@michelinejerome4735]

My church uses the same setup with the Yamaha CL5 and the QL5 TF Rack mixers and the RIO3224 RIO1608 RI8 and the RO8 stageboxes and all this is using Dante audio networking for a digital split between all 3 consoles and stage boxes.

[@Churchfront]

Nice

[@VASTINT]

DANTE is a very good IP Audio solution! I'm working on the design of DANTE audio.

[@micahsaldivar]

Glad to see you jump in the Dante train!! Depending on your ProTools setup, I would recommend pulling inputs directly from the StageBox and not the console.

[@vannk73]

Is this possible with the Midas / Behringer system? Their stageboxes are not Dante.

[@fromnaija]

No, not possible with M/X32 stageboxes.

[@vovkandreev]

Thanks for the info!!

[@salaipapa]

I should have seen this video earlier. Adding dante card to my sq6 will be everything i I need

[@infinityx678]

Just a heads up - the redundant ethernet cable can be used to also prevent cabling failures that might occur over the life of the network.

[@dmitryklimov9706]

Cool! Thank you!

[@524490]

Thank you very helpful

[@jthunderbass1]

I am loving the video!!!! I wouldnt use an M32 for this kind of network because the console is limited to only 32 card in, but the console can do 32 channels of digital in, and also the Aux ins are able to come in on other inouts. When you do Dante you can only pull 32 channels in

[@danielpaul7305]

thank you so much

[@jaysrinivasan8205]

thx brother very helpful

[@markarca6360]

For those who still want or require a traditional USB audio interface while using a Dante audio network, there is the RME Digiface Dante audio interface (USB 3.0/2 pairs of RJ45 ports/Headphones output). That enables the best of both worlds.

[@tedz2000]

add a link please

[@adamwilliamson2386]

Our Dante Card is in transit!! I'm almost logging into my Arrive app as much as I log into WLS.com......almost!! Can't wait to get our Dante network up and running!! I even got my Dante Level 1 certification!!!! TECHNOLOGY!!!!!!!!!!!

[@maximalexcristi]

How was you process?

[@bluesky7395]

thank ou for a nice turtorial

[@davezorn]

so since the worship tech school appears to not be a thing any more (or is it just my browser messin up) is there a reason your not using a dante card in your stage snakeas well? thanks in advance !

[@shysingh]

Great Vid man .. question can I place a laptop with Dante and a pair of headphones to run a hardwired monitor mix ?

[@wjimenez0883]

Going to start this setup this week, had a snafu with live service today. Trying to route audio out of propresenter to both the ATEM live stream and in-house was not properly or intuitive.

[@55maickel]

Quick question: Is there a possibility to send controlling cues from my Ableton computer to my ProPresenter computer using Dante Audio Networking?

[@david.godlewski]

Can you still access the internet on the devices that are connected via dante? Thanks for this video!

[@kmont54]

Hello, enjoyed the video. We recently got Dante set up. We're trying to route the audio we have going through Ableton Live to be route back to FOH and to our live stream. How would we go about that?

[@ILCDA]

Very good information, I have a question, we are using Dante via as our audio source for OBS it works good but after 20 minutes start making a static noise that get worse and worse and the only way to correct for the next 20 minutes is deactivating and activating Dante really quick, is there anything that might cause that weird noise? thanks

[@bradleyhenady2032]

Thank you for dumbing this down enough for me to understand. Everything has been "daunting" reading online. Would have been nice to see how you set up the card in the M32 to as well. Still confused there.

[@Wikdurand]

You meant "Danteng" didn't you?

[@alexcooper3911]

Amazing vid as always, Jake! Question: you said you have 2 network switches - one in your production booth & one by the stage. Do you have a super long ethernet cable running from one switch to the other so that both switches are wired to the same network???

[@KristianBrownKriisko]

I'm wondering the same thing.

[@kenstreetsmart852]

I like that you can route audio channels to different devices (Sharing inputs and out puts). But I have two Heath & Allen mixers sharing one I/O box on stage. One mixer for front of house, One mixer feeds a computer with multi track audio. With Dante are the input gains for the two systems independent or does one dominate the other. The house gains and the recording gains are not the same. I deal with Jr High and High school students that often hide from the microphone to avoid being heard. With the recording I ride the gain higher knowing I do not need to worry about feed back from the speakers.

[@PietNelemans]

That's technically not true, I think. A stage box with a preamp has only 1 gain control per input. If you split that stagebox to 2 consoles, probably 1 of them is controlling the gain/preamp, and 1 of them has only digital trim. That is a fine way of lowering/raising the input volume, but it's not the same as gain/preamp. So if signal is too hot and clipping at the preamp, digital trim is not gonna fix that.

[@tedz2000]

Great video, in this setup you dont need any of the "Dante audio ethernet dongles" only just an ethernet connection? with the virtual soundcard on the PC.. and how is the front of house (audio box) connected to the network

[@misaelafanador345]

Hi thanks for your videos, the dante communication are the same to AVB network??

[@INVINCIBLE_MIX]

How able to user can monitor audio in ableton

[@silvasrafas]

hey friend, thanks for sharing this content, in my church we already uses the dante protocol. Do you think it is possible to use my Line 6 helix over the dante network through a ethernet cable plugged in the helix?

[@ennis437]

We use Dante From an Alan and Heath GLD 110 we route 8 channels of audio from stage from our Ableton computer, we also have a keys MainStage rig that we also send 2 channels of audio to the board. We then send another stream of audio to a computer running Logic Pro that records our 48 channels and then is routed to an X32 that is mixing for live stream. In addition to that we are looking at adding an x32 on stage to be our IEM rig which will receive the 32 channels from our GLD board and then allow us to have a completely independent iem mix for our team. The Dante network is a game changer! However DO NOT USE EEE energy effecient switches we bought 2 Gigabit "green" switches right off the bat and thought whats the difference. We had 2 instances of complete audio drop out from Ableton. NOT good get the business class switches it does matter.

[@lawrencecoles7561]

Question: Because we are broadcasting live, do we need two NICs in the computer (one for Dante and one for LAN/WAN to the internet?

[@florin1290]

Hello, I installed a Dante Card in my Yamaha M7CL mixer and I connected with my Logic Pro. Everything works just fine bug I get signal in my Logic just for a few seconds and after that stops and start again, its not constant signal. I check with different DAW and different computer and the problem still exist, can you help me please? Thank you!

[@jeremyryannoel]

Yesterday, I explained this to my pastor as we run an M32 foh. He’s on board to integrate Dante, so it’s gonna be great using Logic for live stream, ProPresenter playback, a PC for canned music, and our plans to start using multi-track playback on stage, all using Cat6!

[@bryanturner1974]

Hey Jeremy did you ever get your Dante integrated with multitrack playback? Trying to get more than 8-10 buses for better control. :)

[@jeremyryannoel]

@@bryanturner1974 Honestly, we’ve yet to order/install the Dante card. From what I’ve read, it’s fairly straightforward as long as the proper switches are used?

[@diwalrai6959]

hi jake, just wondering, can you squeeze Audio Fusion in this DANTE system and at the same time use pro tools to mix and record the tracks from another laptop?

[@matheusolguin]

If I run mainstage the way u showed on the video to send in/out to dante how my sound goes to the PA’s?? Sorry for this stupid question but Im new with this.

[@jorm192]

Is there a way to use “playback” from an ipad with dante??

[@azer9301997]

Hi! Is it possible to use Wifi Router instead of Network Switch? By the way thank you for your content! Merry Christmas!

[@favournjoku3024]

Can you make an update video with newer tech like the behringer wing

[@mzcsawmtea]

can we connect audio to wirecast softaware from dante network? or please can make video live audio with with wirecast and dante network?

[@DanielVillalobos_99]

How do you get audio from Dante Controller to Elgato program (Windows)

[@TheCommercialFactory]

Is Dante different from NDI? Is there a different license needed for using Dante in an NDI universe?

[@mylesdb]

Do you not need a clock generator to keep all the sources in sync?

[@tlcassembly]

Hi Jake, Quick question. Just got the dante card for my church's Allen and Heath GLD 112 mixer. To start off, I just want a simple set up with my macbook directly connected to the primary port of the dante card. What i would like to achieve is just getting an output from my front of house sound board into my DAW. Apart from setting up the Dante controller routing and the Dante virtual card, do I have to setup a routing on my front of house sound console too? Thanks for everything you are doing man. Appreciate it Anurag

[@jonathanpoulson2841]

I have a question about the network switches. You mentioned that you have two. One up front and one in the back. So are you somewhat daisy chaining them together? From the front network switch two the rear one?

[@Nana032192]

I have my click & guide feeding into my x32 along with my other back tracks coming from the playback app on an iPad. When I use the x32 USB port to send audio to my live stream, I'm hearing the click and guide in the live feed audio. What can I do to fix this?

[@iosiapati6003]

Aye Jake I have a question, so with all this mixing, does it affect the front house mix?

[@harold12A]

We have a Presonus Studiolive 32…. What are our options ? I understand Presonus uses AVB which is a different protocol from Dante

[@keithbusby1572]

Can you still use local inputs from the FOH board and inputs from the digital snake?

[@xmsarx]

Wait! Can you use Dante Via on your MainStage computer instead of the DVS?? BTW! Awesome channel man!

[@michaelyoung7911]

Do you know if you can do the same thing with waves soundgrid

[@henrikhovland2357]

What a great explanation! One question: Can one run Ableton Live on the same computer as the Dante controller?

[@matthewpiatt]

Yes. You can run Dante Controller on any Mac/PC that is on the same subnet as your Dante devices. It's just a lightweight app for patching, status, and Dante device config. Dante Controller can also configure devices over WiFi, but the audio itself must use wired ethernet.

[@sergeyb7597]

Hi Jake, Thanks for the great video... Im just wondering is it possible to send audio to my M32 live via usb on the default sound card that comes with the mixer?! and would it affect the sound quality? thanks bro!

[@Angelray050906]

I have a quick question. Can I route audio from an x32 connected to a computer via usb through the network into another computer? Dante card for x32 is too expensive so I looking to see if there is a work around. I dont mind using 2 computers. So essentially I would route the incoming audio from x32 via usb through the network into another computer.

[@simonprittie]

Question for you Jake! My M1 Mac MIni is sending audio to our x32 console out of the headphone jack and the ethernet port is already being used to connect to a network that our ATEM switcher is on. Am I able to use a USB A to Ethernet adapter (out of the Mac Mini) to connect it to a switch on the Dante network? Any idea? I like the idea of using the Digital sound card app instead of the headphone jack but my ethernet port is spoken for. Or can I plug everything (Atem software control & Dante enabled devices) into the same network?? Thanks!

[@brave.ones.get.happines]

So if we need a wired internet on that same computer connected to Dante, we'd need to use two LAN Network controllers, is that correct?

[@Russianmafia10]

Can you still get an internet connection on the computers on the Dante network?

[@churchaudiolife]

I learned the hard way that the network switches need to not use EEE power saving. It can cut off your word clock and disconnect everything. We now run proper Cisco SG300 managed switches. This is from Yamaha's site, but regarding DANTE: Please do not use the EEE function (*) of network switches in a Dante network. Although power management should be negotiated automatically in switches that support EEE, some switches do not perform the negotiation properly. This may cause EEE to be enabled in Dante networks when it is not appropriate, resulting in poor synchronization performance and occasional dropouts. Therefore we strongly recommend that: If you use managed switches, ensure that they allow EEE to be disabled. Make sure that EEE is disabled on all ports used for real-time Dante traffic. If you use unmanaged switches, make sure to not use network switches that support EEE. * EEE (Energy Efficient Ethernet) is a technology that reduces switch power consumption during periods of low network traffic. It is also known as Green Ethernet and IEEE802.3az.

[@Churchfront]

Great to know

[@skybabaoriginal]

Great info. Thanks for sharing.

[@lwehr05]

Do you have a dedicated computer running the Dante Controller or is it running on one of the computers running a different program such as the one running pro tools?

[@deciaudio6027]

if its ok for you can you send all wat i need for dante how do u switch ethernet to normal cables

[@Buzznewmann]

Is there anyway to set ur gain sent from the console without effecting the house mix gain? This seems to me to be the biggest flaw I have found with Dante.

[@PampanosRecords]

Do you connect your Digital Snake to your Dante Card or to the Ethernet input of the Mixer?

[@zacclarke2827]

Do you need to install the Dante virtual Soundcard to use the ethernet connection for Pro Tools Multitrack?? have the M32R with dante sound card to work with. I am wanting to set up the multitrack recording for better recorsing capabilities for my music class

[@davidruffo756]

Great Video, Thanks .........I'm curious...At 11:53 in the video did you just route the FOH consoles outputs to the same FOH consoles inputs?? Maybe not a big deal but I'm trying to follow you and you're talking about patching the 4 outputs from you're Ableton Live computer to the FOH console......Am I seeing things??

[@Bobby_Uterus]

so, are you still using AES50 to connect the stage box to the FOH console? Or how are you accomplishing the connection between stage box and FOH?

[@jestinobessoteno4834]

Is it possible to do the same audio networking without (using) dante??

[@christianvictory1678]

What do you do for ableton midi to pro presenter? Do you set up something different for that?

[@chriskelly9899]

Is one ethernet connection between your PP7 Mac good enough to carry all the Dante audio data + any midi information coming and going?

[@sifender56]

We’re about to pull the trigger on an Allen & Heath SQ5 and DT168....they both have Dante cards....do I need a switch as well???

[@JonathanAyers]

I'm stumped. My transmitters section doesn't look like yours. It has the computer and then ProPresenter in that section. I can't seem to figure out how to send the audio from ProPresenter to the main mix?

[@iosiapati6003]

aye thanks for sharing that Jake🥴

[@smacaveiu]

Hello! I need some tips how to do this. I have a similar setup: x32, one MacBook for mixing, one Mac for pro presenter . For the mixing laptop I have Dante virtual sound card and pro presenter one I have Dante via. In the mixing one I get all the 32 channels from x32. I use Dante virtual as a sound card input and output I have a ssl 2+, for monitoring. Is it possible to use the Dante sound card and still hook some earphones or studio monitors? How? Now I want to get the output from the mixing laptop to pro presenter one using Dante via. Here I am staked. I can’t find the ssl 2+. Do I need Dante via also on the mixing laptop?

[@christophercortes1877]

If we are only using one computer (Macbook Pro + Logic) is it necessary to still have the network switcher?

[@zaka149]

does dante via work well with MOJAVE or CATALINA?

[@danielabrahams5623]

But how will we monitor the audio that's being mix?

[@georgealexender]

How do you suppose we route audio to a nursery using a cordless method.... because the nursery is in a different building.

[@musamnguni510]

Could this setup work with loop community’s prime app ?

[@petterrong1590]

Late to the party, but on the output routing, is it necessary to send the Card 1-8 back out to the Dante network, when it's already available directly from your computers? Or am I misunderstanding how Dante routing works, and you can only patch an input to one output and not split?