Should Sikhs integrate into society? How?

☠️Do you want some poison? It’ll be really nice because we’ll coat it in sugar for you! This is what life can be like…the choices we make in life no matter how big or small hugely impact our state of mind and habits, which ultimately affect our spiritual development.
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[@TheTurbanatore]

As more and more Punjabi Sikh immigrants come to the west, this is an important conversation to have.

[@dharmipraahtaak1441]

The Turbanator I cannot disagree with video. You need to be who you really are as per your wish. But it is exactly same for all others outside. Even in punjab for all communities where its other way round when sikhs move out and new communities migrating from india go to punjab. Same in reverse

[@2BinNYC]

As a Sikh born in US who used to be a Christian, I can confirm this. It’s been hard to differentiate where I should be as far as my sangat. I think in the beginning it is important to be around holy sangat. Then when my habits and thoughts are much more steadfast, I won’t be so tempted and can be more “integrated” so to speak. I hope this makes sense.

[@VeraLucia-sl6sl]

Waheguru ji ki khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh 🙏🙏

[@ravsingh1576]

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

[@JagdeepSingh11111]

Vaheguru ji

[@gs539]

love you veer ji..you are blessed with gurus blessing. waheguru

[@SebGully]

Great video!

[@prabhjotkaur5985]

Waheguru waheguru .

[@nanaklekh]

Vaheguru vaheguru vaheguru ji

[@2BinNYC]

Waheguru ji thank you for this video

[@maniis2072]

Beautiful amazing video veer ji 🙏🙏

[@goalee7663]

Waheguru

[@surindercheema3]

🙏🙏🙏

[@surindercheema3]

100% agree -parties not a place for a Gursikh -I have a higher standard for a Gursikh-I know not being Amritdharie-there is lot of unhealthy actions at these parties -it takes me couple of days to recover after the party Thank you for addressing

[@HarpreetSingh-cz2zh]

do more naam kamiyeh ji. No disrespect but just a pointer. You shouldn't be affected by where you go, it means you aren't attached to naam but maya. You need to surround yourself with Guru Nanak ji's light.

[@ramniksingh7702]

Harpreet Singh agreed to your point. But don’t forget Abstaining and Naam is going hand in hand. Guru Patshah ji know that at the end we are humans and Garbage of Maya may sooner or later penetrate and pollute you from within.

[@jassingh9446]

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh I'm just about to Destroy my life But then i get true congregation of high spirited people like bhai jagraj singh ji and bhai baljit singh ji Level of understanding is on spiritual level #BasicsMondayMotivation

[@harsimransingh3148]

thanks

[@Queenkaur]

1 Information ..eyes ...read...watch .ear...listen 2. Thoughts /mind/ mann 3. speak/bol/ sabad/ words/ bachan 4.actions / karam Life style.... If its starting is good from information then its all good way to go. Thanks thanks thanks thanks veer jee.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@harpritsingh6216]

Guru nank dev ji give us holy gurubani and lots of knowledge even gurubani teaching us how to leave in society also 🙏

[@SebGully]

After more reflection on this amazing video, it seems to me a lot of this is in our decision making and thought processes? For example, even watching TV and then making decisions and purchases with the incorrect thoughts? So much to distract from true thoughts, let alone a party? All the materialistic decisions that are made, even by not going to party's?

[@13Daas]

Shiv Gulati like I stated in the video multiple things are having an effect on our decision making, everything we’re reading, we’re looking at that can’t be avoided but that’s why we don’t need the extra burden of being in certain places that we have a choice to avoid.

[@akashdeepsingghh]

I've been living in a sharing where a slot of refrigerator is filled up with alcohol bottles i had to keep my lunch for next day on next shelf. I feel like i am not drinking that anyways, they are keeping non veg in refrigerator. But im not eating it.. Is it fine keeping my food there? If not please help me realize. I am totally out of their sangat just come from work spend hardly 30 minutes talking to them. Rest im with gur sangat most of free time. Please advise guru saheb has made me amritdhari

[@Ydidutakemyname]

Yeah it's fine if your food is there. Don't get into the ego trap that you should not have your things there, that you are better than them because you are "purer". How can we do that in a society? Yes have good like-minded company but don't avoid people who are different from you as if they are unpure or dirty, because they too have the jot of waheguru in them too, just set your limits.

[@TheUltimateGeminiHasSurvived]

Ydidutakemyname watch the full video, my dear brother / sister

[@mos619]

I understand the logic, though at the same time I wonder about the wisdom here...if Sikhi cannot withstand Maya, then Guru Ji isn't a very good boat now is it? I actually don't think that but this is how I'm hearing this message. My perspective may be different, I'm American and only recently found Sikhi, but it resonates strongly with me and parallels a lot of my own thoughts and feelings on my journey. Now, I don't avoid bars and alcohol cause God said so, I avoid them because I have no interest. I've been there, I experienced the poison first hand, and made the choice move towards Ek. This was a natural occurrence, nothing forced upon me or laid on me with scare tactics. So I'm wondering if perhaps the emphasis shouldn't be on what to avoid so much as what to seek, ie Naam. Cause while I wouldn't seek out a club or bar, I have no fear going in if I need to, and God knows those people need guidance. So if the boat of Sikhi is unable to traverse the sea of Maya, how are we supposed to save this world? I may be wrong but I believe that's the purpose of khalsa path, to spread dharma. If we can't look past the Maya, created by Akal purakh, to the all pervading One, then what are we really doing here? What's the point? Are you just playing dress up and sword fights, hiding out in gurdwara while the world goes to shit around you? I'm not saying compromise yourself to conform to society, but I do think effort should be made to uplift society, which requires engaging with society, without fear or hate. Seva a lot of times seems to be limited to helping with langar or cleaning gurdwara, but pretty sure it goes a lot deeper than that. No disrespect, just raising questions. Again, I'm very new to this tradition so take my views for what they are. WJK WJF 🙏

[@sukd2669]

Some excellent questions, i do believe your inspiring yet intriguing questions can be addressed with less satire when you compare current khalsa behaviours as mockeries, it can come across as a shaming tactic. No offence taken, and a harsh response is required IF effective. I think alot of sikhs are too engrossed with the statement 'Sant siphae', meaning saint first warrior second, this is because of a self analytical lens to not make grievous mistakes without the proper awareness, its a pretty big concept in modern Sikhi. but, interpreting a more respectful version of your comment, you're argument in its essence is 100% correct. Get more out there!

[@mos619]

@@sukd2669 thanks and I do apologize if it came off harsh but my hope is that people can see it comes from a place of love. I do think the initial focus should be on mastering one's own mind, but once you have a firm hold of that discipline it kind of compels you to action. Not that I consider myself a master, but I do believe I'm heading in the right direction at least. I'm bothered by some of the in group out group mentality I see sometimes. I've noticed some sikhs having an arrogance about them, especially when interacting with Hindus. Like I don't see one being any better than the other. Hindu can be liberated just as well as Sikh just as any other faith. God is literally in every heart. What turned me off to the Christianity I grew up in is the exclusivity of it, and I see hints of it in Sikhi and potentially in the subtext of this video and it just kinda bothers me.

[@sukd2669]

@@mos619 Wow, so sorry if i sounded harsh too, who am i!!. I see a brightness in you and you are correct i can see your love, i just noticed that its better to build people up, and there are compassionate ways to help people see things. The Guru says that having a discriminating intellect makes one wealthy and you are applying it. (dont believe me, seek to read and understand bani it is the key) i try to remember this when i see things i believe are abhorrent: everyone falls on a scale on how they follow Sikhi, sometimes a turbaned baptised sikh may be lower than a cut hair sikh, it depends how internally washed they are. But i criticize them, or macro features within the society, not the ideology. Otherwise others actions can throw you off a path that was actually pure. No offence, you have made a good start, but you can fall off at any time, you can get corrupted, a myriad of things. Do what works for you i am no one to tell you anything, occasionally passion grips.

[@mos619]

@@sukd2669 like the example used in the video, don't go to your brothers wedding cause a pop song might make you randy....that seems crazy to me. If you're unable to discern that pop songs are trash that prey on your base insticints, you don't need God you need common sense and heavy metal. Maybe put down Guru Granth Sahib for s second, and pick up some books on psychology and critical thinking. Again, no disrespect but c'mon.

[@sukd2669]

@@mos619 Additionally, pardon me for returning, but it would be wrong of me not to tell you that the Guru does state that no one is liberated without the Guru. It would be morally unjust to lead you further when the condition of your involvement was based on the understanding that the Guru doesn't claim exclusivity. It's always a breath of fresh air when new people join Sikhi, as the current sikh generation of diaspora finds its footing in a globalised world, we've frankly never had peace from persecution like we do now and its always a blessing when another person enters into this Dharam.

[@henrythoreau645]

Does integration into society have to mean atheism, hedonism, consumerism and forgetting your roots? Sikhs work, are law abiding, honest, good neighbours and try to live a moral lifestyle. If that isn't being integrated, what is? The West claims to uphold liberal values, well those liberal values supposedly respect diversity, and the freedom to believe what you like, follow the religion you want to, or not, and to dress how you like, so it seems evident to me that maintaining a Sikh identity is perfectly compatible with living in Europe or North America or elsewhere.

[@baazdust]

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh I have a question I don't have that many friends and I'm 17 I mean I can make friends but all of them say bad words, look at girls what should I do to make friends? Should I go among that say bad words? Please help thanks

[@baazdust]

@Jag5tarZ I feel you bro

[@13Daas]

Gurjot Singh The most important thing is that you’re conscious of the effect the company you’re keeping is having on you. If certain situations are absolutely unavoidable then try & remain as conscious as you can & refrain from using such language yourself. Kabir ji say having many friends isn’t what gives us true joy so be wise with the company you keep, better to have less friends then allowing your life to be ruined.

[@jonjosenna5581]

When they say bad words, ignore it. When they look at girls, lower your gaze. Remember the good things they say and the good times you had.

[@DhruvSingh-vs6zh]

Nope, don't change yourself that too for worse. Make better frnds OR take interest in topics ur frnds talk bout.

[@jonjosenna5581]

DSGamer ‘People who only have love for their own race, only leave room to discriminate’ Not everyone is Sikh or even religious, but if they are truly your friends they will understand.

[@khalistan20]

Bhai Sahib Ji first of all commend you on the videos and great seva you are doing. Id just like to say everything is about context and perspective. For instance a new punjabi sikh into another western country may not have the choice as to where hell work and who he can coerse with. It may mean he/she has to socialise to gain some material wealth to get on there feet. Personally i think though you might be correct at a very technical level it is hardly correct at a practical level. We live in a multicultural world and more and more so there is inter faith marriages. Hence even if one is of such high values it may be difficult to not go to an event due to a partner. Furthermore i have by in large found that once you gain confidence in your own self you can be in any situation or place and deal with it. Where do we draw the line?oh sorry mate u cant watch this movie because though its 15 plus it might affect your thoughts so dont watch it U cant watch a game. Oh maybe theres a few people that drink in that place. Even the Guru Sahibs hung out with Aurungzeb and the other hindu pandit blokes. Ok sure they told em of and explained the correct stuff but thats the whole point isnt it. How do we have an impact on the non sikhs or not so perfect sikhs (by the text literally) if we arnt gonna hang with them, explain our thoughts.

[@harryjivenmukta374]

Just live in a small indian village. Sikhism is out of date. No wonder people are looking elsewhere for their spiritualism.

[@laksing7255]

Sikhs should always remain independent integration is not good. sikh first British second. This rule applies to us were ever we are ...