Are you giving your Hoya enough light?

[@BasiePlants]

Notes: - Hoyas are not Calatheas -> think of low light for Hoyas as medium light for other houseplants (Aroids, Calatheas, etc.) - Low light for me: directly in northwest facing window; I grow here Hoya lockii, multiflora, praetorii, crassipetiolata, densifolia - I have no idea how I got toothpaste on my forehead BUT HERE WE ARE

[@pc3235]

@BasiePlants I adore your wall rack, can you let me know where to get it? Love your show! Thank you.

[@dana102083]

Own it brother :)

[@robinhavens695]

I'm LOVING Miro's Hoya Summer Camp!!!💚💚💚

[@BasiePlants]

I am glad to hear it! :D

[@nofields9904]

I just discovered you. This was very insightful.

[@bubbyanne2]

I adore your sense of humor and appreciate you sharing your experience and even the issues you learn from. I hadn’t really thought some plants could have too much light. Guess I should move my elliptica and see how she does, she’s struggling.

[@BasiePlants]

They definitely can :) Some will adjust, some will just look ugly XD SO I would try to adjust the light a bit :) I don't think of elliptica as very high light hoya; try medium light :)

[@charissecarrigan2945]

Here I thought having the beautiful sunshine coming in the morning with my east-facing window, was so good. Only to find out, it's considered "low-light". Disappointing. However, I do also have three sets of grow lights (not super expensive) and they are on 12 hours/ off 12 hours. I only have 16 different hoyas, none of them fancy, rare, or too expensive. So...because I like their gorgeous leaves, I guess I may as well get used to the idea of possibly no blooms. But my space is very limited...so I will learn to be thankful for what I have. By the way, Miro...I enjoy your videos so much and feel encouraged by them. It's nice to not feel dumb so much of the time...even with my mistakes. 😉

[@BasiePlants]

It will also depend on what you have in front of the window :) My friend has a giant southeast window on the 6th floor (almost the entire wall is floor to celiling window) and while she gets a lot of light there, she still had to use grow lights for some of the more light demanding species :) I think a lot of hoyas could grow really well in your window, but maybe it would take some time to bloom them all :D I typically stay away from very high light demanding species (aka all eriostemmas), and was iffy about getting imperialis, but we will see... Also, usually the light in our windows is not the same intensity throughout the day, something I forgot to mention. So there might be a lot of light for 2-3 hours and then sort of low light throughout the day :) So I would def recommend additional grow lights. They will all eventually bloom, but it may take more time, depending on the sp. Some species just take longer - carnosa, pubicorolla, and some will do it very fast :D

[@charissecarrigan2945]

@@BasiePlants Thank you again! Yes, that is why I will keep my grow lights going for at least 12 hours a day...hoping for a little boost. Thankfully, in the spring and summer...they get a grand view of sky for at least 5 hours a day. 🌄 At 67 years old, I hope I've learned a little patience 😂

[@jaclynns.jungle]

Hey! Did you know that we're starting a Hoya revolution? So many new Hoya heads! We need to celebrate our success!! 😂❤

[@BasiePlants]

What, aroids finally bloomed for people and they decided they are ugly? 💀 All jokes aside, I am glad Hoya are receiving some well-deserved spotlight!

[@janetmccalder5541]

The lighting Video is what I needed .. also I was away & my husband badly overwatered all my plants .. despite a note I left for him augh

[@BasiePlants]

Oh, notes don't work xD That is why I switched to self-watering pots and lights on timers, so the plants can live for couple of weeks without me and I don't have to worry.

[@christineexley585]

This explains why my Iris Marie is starting to get new growth. I moved her to a lower light area for cleaning and forgot to ,move her back. She won't be going back to the higher light now. We both thank you!

[@grannyplants1764]

“We try, we learn.” -Miro Just put it on my refrigerator, hopefully all my plants will understand. I think I’m blessed with mostly eastern/southern windows, my few small Hoyas aren’t dead yet. The Curtesii seems to be enjoying it there, which I’m pleased about. Found this video about light very interesting, especially the general rule about thin/ thick leaves. Isn’t summer Hoya camp fun! Thank you so much for taking the time to do these weekly videos 🤗🌿⛺️ Stay cool 😎 it seems to be a bad heat wave everywhere 😅

[@BasiePlants]

Yeah, the heatwave that is never ending! 😮‍💨 But so great for the windows! They do so well in natural light 💚

[@ellennovak5214]

Okay, huge light bulb just went on after watching this video. No wander some of my Hoyas are struggling…way too much light! Thank you!

[@TeedyASMR]

im blessed with a big southwestern window but the layout of my home makes it so i can only put things right in the window.. so it's absolutely a blessing and curse lmao. been thinking about getting a sheer curtain but idk if it'll block too much!

[@heatherstephens9295]

Your plants look amazing & your knowledge is fantastic 👏👏🇳🇿

[@plantingwithnat]

Miro, I just want to say thank you for making this video. I had all my Hoyas under a very high grow light. I wasn't seeing any improvement except for my variegated string of hearts which I got over a month ago has produced so many flowers😲. I decided that I do have a grow light but it is 9 watts. Since making that change my Hoya Mathilde, Hoya Heuschkeliana Albomarginata, Hoya crimson queen and all others are now pushing some leaves. I already place an order for 2 10-watt grow lights. I am absolutely thrilled. Even the ones propagating in water are growing a vine😲😻. Thank you Miro you are an amazing teacher.❤I wish I can give you a hug instead I'll send you a virtual hug🫂.

[@elisabethelchami7527]

Thank you so much for this video!!! I have been rooting my engleriana wrong. Now I understand why the leaves are getting bleached...

[@aveuch]

2:34 having a NW exposure, this makes me so, so happy and feel reassured.

[@tammiepforr4720]

Thank you very much for sharing your experience and knowledge of Hoyas. I have recently started to invest in grow lights. Now to get them in the best spot

[@j.c7941]

Hey Miro 💫 Thank you again for another awesome video with your comedy included. I can’t get enough 😂 I’ve always hated windows and currently I live in a home with no windows but 2 that are completely blocked by the neighbors houses so no light there. Now that I’m into my plant journey (way late in life 46 yrs later) I want nothing but a house of windows. Such is life I guess so I go with the grow bulbs from Home Depot. So far so good I think, it’s still all a learning process for me and of course I choose the Hoyas that you can’t find in box stores here so I’m just watching videos and researching how to provide the right conditions for them. Can’t wait for more Miro schooling 🙏🏻💫

[@shelbyd.garland7706]

Marshydro! I have lots of windows. None of which actually get decent light. My tent is my happy place. Marshydro is pretty affordable if you just buy the tent. The kit for growing “other stuff” is A LOT of light and tornado like airflow!

[@marcellapertsinides9384]

I love watching your videos! I am relatively new to Hoyas (2yrs) & you are a great teacher! ❤

[@llindberg194]

Ohey I noticed summercamp-tag on this video. I just assumed the video warning off some challenging hoyas was part of it since it seemed to fit the theme, haha. I've got my propagation boxes close under roughly 50 watts and now I'm wondering if it's a bit much. I've struggled a bit with Hahniae, it gets ugly but grows in high light, and looks nicer but doesn't grow in north-west facing window...

[@lindsayanne3076]

I've considered supporting many creators on Patreon, but you're the first one I've committed to. Thank you for being. ❤

[@BasiePlants]

Thank you

[@christineexley585]

My sigillatis is now going to go under a higher light to see if it perks up. Two (out of 45) of the leaves show a little yellow at the base and some of the aerial plant roots are dry. Others roots seem fine . It has two healthy looking vines, one not so good vine and not a lot of leaves on the vines. I think I will try a little higher light and try a little more humidity. The majority of the leaves are thick and stiff so I don't think they are underwatered. I will keep an eye on it to see if these changes help. Thank you

[@lookatthatleaf]

Ok assigning window directions to high and med light, etc is suuuuppper helpful!! I dont have a light meter so i can’t measure candles/lumens to determine.

[@BasiePlants]

Glad to be of help :D

[@buella9269]

Thank you for this! I am just starting with grow lights and not sure if my Hoyas are happy in their spots! Will try moving them around if they “look ugly”.

[@NewUkeNewYork]

This is a great series! Thank you so much for putting in the work to do it. I am getting so many Hoya blooms this year and I think part of it is better utilization of my light (I have East and south windows). I’ve had Hoya burn in my East windows, so those windows do get bright light. I try to acclimatize them, of course, but also pull them back if needed.

[@saramarie9455]

This video is so freaking good!!!

[@karenmyers9146]

Another great video on Miro’s hoya camp.

[@_hazplants]

Hi Miro! So far, most of my Hoyas live the large windows of my living room facing 270° west, seeing the sun directly from 195° south until sundown. Evening light gets blocked a bit by trees and houses from the other side of the road, behind the garden. In the first week of july, I measured peaks of 130k lx outside, directly in the sun around the mid of day. 1cm behind the window, around 70k lx. Of course, weather in Germany tends not to reach those peaks all day, so maybe that is an explanation, why I personally would say, that most Hoyas are suited for this setup, as I see no problem on my H. chinhunguensis, H. curtisii, H. campanulata (clone with splash), H. heuschkeliana (inner variegated), H. buotii and H. papaschonii. But I will try and give them a place in a north facing window (below 7k lx at peaks, 1,5-2,5k lx typical). H. caudata from sumatra, is enjoying this place to the max and got such beautiful, dark caramel coloured, wavy, big leaves, so this might be a typical amount of light, most Hoyas should enjoy. Some Hoyas like H. 'Nathalie' and H. AH 556 seeds 002 needed the high light situation to grow leaves to their full potential. They produce beautifully contrasting, violet, dark margins. One with wavy leaves, the other with almost coin-like, round leaves, hard like cardboard. Nathalies veines really pop out with light green. I had to withstand my reflex to take her out of the light, as the leaves looked horrible while growing. But as they matured, all fail vanished and the result is just breathtaking. I noticed smaller, lighter leaves on her growing for a while in the early year. But now, new leaves grow twice in size with healty, intense greens. So, I would say, most of my Hoyas like huge amounts of sunlight here. But one that really is not liking that is H. endauensis in my case. It sunstressed quite ugly, even in the north facing window, but it was thriving. The problem with burns from growlights compared to direct sunlight might be the consistency of the brightness and position. The sun a) is seen from a changing angle and b) is most of the time seen with strong fluctuations. Plants evolutionally adapted to this situation. A growlight that is evenly sending photosynthetically active radiation to the same plants tissue in the same angle, is a completely different situation. Simulating or mimicing the suns run therefore is discussed in the growlight community and possibly somehing, we will see in future products. Until then, we either need to constantly move out lightsource or mount multiple lights in a row, switching on and off with a delay.

[@BasiePlants]

What a nice experience! I have not really had issues with grow lights once you get them to a good distance/ good light level. I did however cook some plants in the southeast windows recently :D So thaat has not been amazing :D Yes, as I said, I think a lot of them really thrive on more light than what we typically give them and a lot can be gradually adjusted to more. It really depends on many factors; our light has been far from gentle and changed a lot in the past 4-5 years; many plants outside, in the garden, in the streets end up burned, that were in the same spot for years. Of course, I only have enough space on the southern windows for maybe 10-15 hoyas, and 10 at most in my northwest windows so depending on grow lights is cruical :)

[@badAngi]

I know Im not the norm, I live in the northern US, but I have four hoyas ( carnosa, carnosa rubra, wayetii and a lacunosa) in my north facing window and they are doing amazing. Winter growth even. Trial and error is always good. thanks for all your hard fought knowledge, we appreciate it all, well at least I do. Can't wait for the next video. thanks an umbel 😅 hoya humor 😂

[@BasiePlants]

As I said, not all windows are the same. North window on the 10th floor is not the same as north window on the first floor :) How much light will you get will depend also on the profile of the street - how wide the street is. In narrow streets for example, you may get very little light even in southern windows. Even if you live in a one story house. The larger the profile of the street, the more light can get in and the higher you are up (in a building), that increases :) And it helps if there is nothing in front of the window. But then we are also getting a bit into architecture and urbanism xD

[@wendyparise2925]

Thank you for your educational and entertaining video. My collection is small but my intentions are good. 💐

[@BasiePlants]

It will grow :D

[@michaelkerley452]

Oh my god!😂 “Fill it with Hoyas” in your journey with Hoyas that is a statement that keeps on giving. That and “I think I can fit another grow light in this space” will be mantras. Miro have you found the depth of green indicative of Hoya preference for amount of light? Such that deeper green Hoyas prefer lower light. I do have about twelve hybrids that are putting on huge leaves in high light that the one parent normally grow smaller. But those I just roll my eyes and let them go.

[@BasiePlants]

Yes, hoyas that are deeper in green do tend to look better imo in medium light :) And the leaves get gorgeous and huge :D

[@1ebonystar]

Miro, thank you for Summer Camp❤

[@cosmoscosmos2855]

Bonjour! C’est très intéressant. Est-ce que la lampe Sansi serait trop forte? 10 watts? Merci. Bonne culture!

[@tonybezanson9625]

Hey Miro, can you do a top 10 fuzzy-leafed Hoyas? :)

[@Allieppr]

Retusa- similar to linearis?

[@dianemottram3060]

Great video Miro and well appreciated. In Florida even the morning light can be intense but I find some sunstressing hoyas do alright and actually look great. But acclamating them is the tricky part and paying attention to the path of the sun. Most of mine are outside in shaded areas. Keeping my fingers crossed on the new cutting of the tiny sweet Chinese teng...I keep that baby inside in diffused gentle light. My slightly rooted lacanosas are coming along under a very watchful eye right now with fan blowing and very gentle shaded sun. So research gate is where I need to go so I can learn more about them. And I did like you said is to keep them in complete shade for now.

[@Julie-AnnArcher]

Thank you! My poor Hoyas that have been under light 24/7 for a week 😕are now thanking you 🙂

[@BasiePlants]

Oops! Glad I helped! :D

[@Aquamarine.Aubrey]

This was so helpful! I think my multiflora was yellowing from to much light. This video gave me an epiphany 💡

[@BasiePlants]

MIne is northwest facing window and she loves it there :)

[@TheQueensWish]

Hi Miro! I really appreciate this guidance. My Retusa is unhappy with higher light and some leaves have gone yellow. All I want is for it to grow longer. Any advice would be appreciated. I noticed Caudata wanted less light. I noticed Australis and Latifolia did better outside in the shade. I noticed Bella hates a draft. I have put Australis Lisa outside to see what happens. Thanks for saying Serpens needs less. I will move it. Thank you so much Miro! Thank you!

[@Kate.g.]

😅 I am new with Hoya, I have many Calathea and it’s an error many people do. Calathea love light bright or medium indirect light. My Hoya was with the Calathea under a grow light. When I saw the sunstress on my Hoya I started laughing, I didn't think that was possible with my Calathea. 🤣 The Hoya is more far the growth light now.

[@mommayanna]

Really appreciated this video

[@mamabear9389]

I have south facing windows that are shaded in summer but not in winter so I get direct sun in winter. It is winter now and my hoya carnosa crimson princess is about 3 feet from a south window and appears to be doing fine so far but I have only had it about a month so wondering if this is too much light.

[@susanjohnson5824]

Thank you for addressing this important subject I have kept moving my Hoyas around by trial and error increasing and decreasing the light they receive. I agree in that I want the leaves to look great and too much light can really make them look unhealthy. Which Hoyas do you think react well to sun stressing or do any Hoyas really like that (although they can look beautiful)

[@Yayasjungle]

Hi Miro! I know this is a hoya video but daamn i cant stop staring to the philo on the background... can you tell me which philodendron is?

[@shelbyd.garland7706]

I believe that’s his dean mcdowell ?

[@BasiePlants]

That is Philodendron plowmanii :)

[@BasiePlants]

I got my plant under the name Philodendron plowmanii var. citrus. It is soon going to leave me :D It will have a new home :)

[@Yayasjungle]

​@@BasiePlantswow!! ❤❤ thanks

[@Yayasjungle]

Well thanks to you i have a new wish list plant 😂

[@rosaeliarangel844]

Hello, I'm new to your channel, very educational. ? What kind of lighting does the Hoya pubicaylx need? I'm a beginner for Hoyas. Thank you inadvance .

[@ItsMeCheryl1231]

I only have windows on the east and west sides of my house. I have a larger Carnosa in the west window about 2 to 3 feet back (she never gets direct sun, but it is bright indirect light). I have a Krimson Princess and a Carnosa start on my coffee table that is about 6 feet back. I recently bought a Compacta and Purple Hawaiian. They are quite small and sit in my eastern facing kitchen window. They all seem to be doing well. The large Carnosa in the west window is over 60 years old, and as far as I know, it's only bloomed twice, and only one peduncle at a time. The blooms were years apart. I'm hoping since she will like her new home and bloom for me! I have had her about 5 months and so far, only one new leaf. Do you think I should move her?

[@i.foliage]

What’s your experience been with light levels for thomsonii? Gut instinct tells me low light following this video as it’s not doing much in high light.

[@OOH23]

Would you consider making videos showcasing low, medium, and high light hoyas? Or hoyas by region? I tried looking up Hoyas from China but didn't really find anything useful.

[@litalfrenkel1024]

Do you treat fully grown plant as newly rooted?

[@marsf4883]

What about silver hoyas? And polyneuras?

[@BasiePlants]

I mentioned polyneura :) She grows well on the lower level on my hoya wall. Silver hoyas do well in medium light, in higher light the silver may disappear - Nova Ghost, Grey Ghost become more splashy in higher light.

[@laurabay8626]

I am relatively new to Hoyas, but most are doing well… except my Hoya sarawak. When I received it as a two leaf bottom cut I put it in my milsbo cabinet under a 10 barrina LED and a it began growing well, putting out multiple new leaves. Then I had a little accident and knocked another plant into it, tearing its newest, biggest leaf. Since then it seems to be punishing me by not growing anymore, lol. I haven’t seen any new growth in about three months so I just took it out of the cabinet and moved it to a northeast window to see if the change might spur some growth. So far nothing new. Any thoughts on how to jumpstart it again? It’s in a chunky aroid mix and I fertilize moderately at each watering. All of its current leaves look great, I would just like it to grow some more :-)

[@traceykusser368]

I don’t have any experience with Hoya but I want to keep my Krimson Queen alive. My plant was wet when I bought it and it just wouldn’t dry out in the least. I changed the soil to one third each cactus soil, perlite, and pure orchid bark, changed from plastic pot to terra cotta, and moved it to more light. I think it was just too late, though. I’m going to try again. I learn a lot from these videos, but I doubt I’ll ever be confident enough to collect the beautiful ones you have. Any advice, anyone?

[@BasiePlants]

Oh I am sorry to hear about your Krimson Queen! It is not an easy one to find in big baskets anymore here, she used to be more common. I have a plant I started from a cutting. If you can take cuttings from the plant, do it ;) Easy to root in water! It could be your plant's root system died so that could explain some of the issues & potting mix staying too wet for too long.

[@traceykusser368]

@@BasiePlants Okay, I will try that; thank you!

[@tishm1209]

WOW, a whole lot of great information. I will have to watch this a few times and take notes. Thank you Miro for all this help.

[@tigrezz0852]

@@traceykusser368good luck! I’ve just received mine and trying to a”stabilise” her first before doing any re potting 😅

[@traceykusser368]

@@tigrezz0852 I repotted in a last ditch effort to save her. They immediately sent out a replacement plant so I have another chance. This one probably won’t be soaking wet.

[@2coryman]

Lol, thank you

[@shelbyd.garland7706]

Fertilizer episode soon? I think I’ve finally given up hope on my flagellata blooming. I chopped it up and said,” if you won’t bloom you will be dense”

[@annielitton4622]

Your funniest video was when you got a Hoya Imbricata and were trying to flatten the leaves on a moss pole. I laughed for 20 minutes straight. I am sure that you realize now that the leaves do not grow flat.

[@BasiePlants]

They do. This is a shingling species. In appropirate conditions, they will lay flat. There are many photos on the Internet of Hoya imbricata grown on tree trunks in nurseries, some photos from the wild & some from cultivation where this is visible. :)

[@annielitton4622]

@@BasiePlants Wow! I did not know that. You are so adorable, and your videos are great. You said in one of your videos that your birthday is May 10th and mine is May 11th.

[@BasiePlants]

@ you’d be surprised how many well-known Hoya growers are Tauruses 😂

[@annielitton4622]

@@BasiePlants Thank you so much for taking your special time to talk to me. Happy New Year!! - from Florida USA

[@Hoyalicious]

❤

[@batuhilal1363]

SLAYYYY

[@plantingwithnat]

Miro are 13 watts considered low or medium lights?

[@BasiePlants]

I would considered them somewhere in between :) It also depends how close they are to your plants. In my Rudsta cabinet I have 16W lights about 15 cm away from top folliage, and perhaps 30-40 from the lower folliage and I would say that is medium light. :)

[@plantingwithnat]

@@BasiePlants Thank you Miro

[@hildalex]

Ops. I just realised I am giving some of my Hoyas way to much light. Thank you!

[@plantingwithnat]

I have all my hoyas under grow light they will soon be converted to Pon wish me all the luck I do hope they don't DIEEEEEEEEE😂

[@seizethebrick]

I've burned one hoya so far... thanks to you I feel less awful about it 😉

[@BasiePlants]

Only one? You have some catching up to do 😂

[@rudlekthebear3697]

Odlican video 😀

[@BasiePlants]

Hvala :)