The MAJOR Problem with the DJI Flip Drone You NEED to Know

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GAVINHR

GAVINHR

Күн бұрын

Thinking of buying the DJI Flip or already own it? in this video I test the DJI Flip to reveal a major problem with this drone that may affect the way you use it and could result in you losing it completely!
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@BirrOMatic
@BirrOMatic 20 күн бұрын
Thank you for posting this video letting everybody know about the issues in fog with FLIP. I actually made my first flight with my FLIP today notising the same problem. I was lucky enough to have experiance enough to know turning to S mode would solve the situation with a stuck drone in mid air over water. I recommend that you always have a controller with you when flying with your phone. If you have the controller you can take over the drone with the controller even in mid air.
@TECHDRONEMEDIA
@TECHDRONEMEDIA 21 күн бұрын
Great observation and explanation
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
Appreciate that thank you Henrik. Took time to research and explain why this seems to be different and I think I got it right
@lonniesfilmmaking333
@lonniesfilmmaking333 19 күн бұрын
Thanks much Neo looks like the best bang for the buck, this year
@thomasjeffersonscott
@thomasjeffersonscott 20 күн бұрын
I am so glad I found this video. I was looking forward to maybe buying this drone.
@kennethrich2107
@kennethrich2107 21 күн бұрын
Thank you sir. This is why your the best drone reviewer on YT. The truth will always set you free-no sugar coating. I've decided against the flip when I learned it DOES NOT support any of DJI's goggles.....and now this.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
Thank you kindly I appreciate the kind words, overall I think it performs well but the lack of goggle support, and the fact they don’t sell it as a drone only will really hamper sales. Thanks for taking the time to comment as always
@JMprodquad
@JMprodquad 20 күн бұрын
I’m with Keneth on this one. Thanks for sharing.
@paullawrence8572
@paullawrence8572 20 күн бұрын
Great honest review as always Gavin! Flip not for me! Thanks mate!👌👊
@kamikazekaos
@kamikazekaos 20 күн бұрын
Like many said, this is a BIG FLOP from the off , I truly feel sorry for tubers having to purchase this crap just to do review it😂
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 20 күн бұрын
@kamikazekaos haha there is that! I knew interest would be low so buying it would be a risk in terms of value of the product compared with the money it will make but here we are. Appreciate you commenting as always
@TriggerMan-rk6ty
@TriggerMan-rk6ty 17 күн бұрын
I’ve seen videos online of people having issues with other drones flying in fog. You’re not supposed to fly drones in bad weather and that’s why drone manufacturers tell you in their manuals to not do it. This is nothing new.
@jakubvyhnanek
@jakubvyhnanek 21 күн бұрын
Also you can fly up a little and then fly sideways or backwards where the drone doesnt have the sensors (but make sure there are no obstacles in the way)
@davehodgkiss
@davehodgkiss 20 күн бұрын
Brilliant Gavin glad. You did this video very well informative well done ❤
@marcelfive1
@marcelfive1 20 күн бұрын
A great reason never to buy any tech till it's reviewed properly, and not by some influencer blowing smoke up the manufacturers arse. I also saw a FB post where DJI said it cannot circle an object that is not the user, unlike all the other DJI drones. Looks like the IR sensor is like high beam lights on a car in fog, the fog bounces the light off it
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 20 күн бұрын
It can only active track humans yes, point of interest and spotlight still work on anything you can draw a box round but it’s more for vlogging
@ianfromcorby
@ianfromcorby 20 күн бұрын
Very detailed vlog there Gavin. I found the same issue light fog and the flip refused to return to home. The drone just hovered in the same position. So I put into spurts mode and flew back on the sticks. Having said that I had fly about yesterday and enjoyed the be flight. The flip will compliment the DJI Mini 4 pro and osmo pocket three for my hobby content. Keep the videos coming this is sound advice especially if fog rolls in very quickly. 😊
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 20 күн бұрын
Thank you Ian, and I appreciate your feedback privately on your findings also, it’s not all bad, the flip I think is quite a good drone overall
@jimthorleydronefootage
@jimthorleydronefootage 20 күн бұрын
That could be a real problem Gavin thanks for the information 👍
@MichaelBarber-z8f
@MichaelBarber-z8f 20 күн бұрын
Thank you so very much GavinHR. This will be very helpful and important when flying in foggy conditions. It could cause people to lose there drone or crash. Have a great weekend
@charlesmciver897
@charlesmciver897 20 күн бұрын
Another greatly appreciated video with impressive examples of an issue which , until you discovered it, who knew about this? Thank you for making us aware and all the best from the US!
@Opinionated219
@Opinionated219 12 күн бұрын
Copy, if you want to fly in foggy weather, ensure you are using a remote that can enable sport mode. Otherwise, avoid flying in foggy weather or select a different drone. Based on your findings, this "may" be a hardware (sensor) limitation and thus not fixable with a firmware update. Thanks for presenting this issue. It is good to be informed.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 12 күн бұрын
You summed it up better than I did !
@nobby-green
@nobby-green 21 күн бұрын
Great find! And they usually happen accidentally but explained perfectly.😉
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
Thanks for your assistance Sir in fact checking I wasn’t making this up haha
@nobby-green
@nobby-green 21 күн бұрын
@@GAVINHR any time. 👍
@RonaldBrown59
@RonaldBrown59 20 күн бұрын
This is interesting, and I experienced the same issue on an Autel drone as well. Great find, thanks for sharing.
@leslab007007
@leslab007007 20 күн бұрын
and it would not fly backwards??
@thehikingshibas
@thehikingshibas 18 күн бұрын
I suppose the workaround for getting the drone back to you using the app is to rotate the drone facing backwards and fly backwards to your home point. Obviously not ideal as you can’t see anything but i assume the drone will still move. Correct?
@davewhiteley2483
@davewhiteley2483 19 күн бұрын
I remember that building when in use 👍 not good for beginners 😮
@dannyhendy
@dannyhendy 21 күн бұрын
What about just turning off obstacle avoidance? Can you always reverse even with obstacle avoidance on?
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
I did cover that in the video, it’s one solution unless you have a lost signal RTH then it’s a major issue
@dannyhendy
@dannyhendy 21 күн бұрын
@GAVINHR sorry I missed that. Good video, thanks for the heads up. In general, I'd never fly the neo or the flip with my mobile to an unretrievable position, I think it's a good rule of thumb. As you said, it's a worry in the case of a disconnect when using the controller. So is obstacle avoidance always on for a RTH? Even if you have it off?
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
@dannyhendy yep! OA activates with RTH even when off / sport mode
@dannyhendy
@dannyhendy 20 күн бұрын
@GAVINHR thanks again. I wonder how the infrared interacts with snow or light rain....
@dannyhendy
@dannyhendy 20 күн бұрын
@GAVINHR hi, I was just playing around with the flip and realised you can actually disable obstacle avoidance while using the mobile app. You have to go to settings then go down to the bottom, click on 'more settings' and you can turn it off. Whether that would deal with the downward problem you had in the video is another question. I bought you a coffee to say cheers for answering! Thanks again!
@grossi46
@grossi46 21 күн бұрын
Well expained and demonstrated buddy. 👌🤜🤛
@graemelaw5808
@graemelaw5808 20 күн бұрын
Hey gavin, I can’t help feeling that this problem must affect the air 3s in fog as well !!?? Don’t like the sound of that 👀😞
@GertrudSchoenberger
@GertrudSchoenberger 21 күн бұрын
Turn around and fly Backwards or Sport modus. Yes that is a Problem. I wonder, that thy didn' t use a Ultraschall Sensor.
@uptowndisco2
@uptowndisco2 20 күн бұрын
A few years ago one of my Parrot drones used that system I can remember hearing the clicking when it was close to me lol
@rend6422
@rend6422 20 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video, DJI put attention to the design of this drone and not the Technology needed to safely fly it.
@suffixHD
@suffixHD 20 күн бұрын
6:00 you could turn the drone around and fly it backwars.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 20 күн бұрын
You could but it won’t solve the issue during a failsafe RTH
@edittide9842
@edittide9842 21 күн бұрын
This is a v1.0 drone in almost every sense. Not having visual obstacle avoidance and the default behaviour being a hard stop, lack of propulsion power and being blown like a leaf in the wind, the curiously large size and gimmicky folding design…. Everything suggests significant further developments are needed for this mid range drone before people purchase this. As it stands this isn’t a sensible purchase, but let’s hope DJI get it right in the future
@MrCejw
@MrCejw 20 күн бұрын
With only one dimensional obstacle avoidance a hard stop is the only option.
@AtortAerials
@AtortAerials 20 күн бұрын
I just got mine last night and set up and flew in my house and immediately could tell it did some of these things. Initial gut feeling is going to be a hard one to fall in love with or may get returned. We shall see. Sensible purchase 😂 🤪
@銃翼
@銃翼 20 күн бұрын
Honestly idgaf about OA
@AtortAerials
@AtortAerials 20 күн бұрын
@ I don't either honestly for lots. Flip is lame for many other reasons so far for my own experiences.
@銃翼
@銃翼 20 күн бұрын
@@AtortAerials ya
@Pindi44
@Pindi44 20 күн бұрын
Thanks for this warning, and another great video.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 20 күн бұрын
Thank you very much
@thehikingshibas
@thehikingshibas 18 күн бұрын
Wow and sure enough look how bad this OA system is with the fog. Thanks for confirming this is truly not the drone for me. Nice video mate. Keep up with the super information flow. Thank you
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 18 күн бұрын
You’re welcome , thank you for your comments and watching
@javelinexile
@javelinexile 19 күн бұрын
I wonder if this is an over correction in the programming from the mini4. I had to fly in moderate snow the other day and the obstacle avoidance wasn't working it hit a tree. (no damage mind you but I was lucky) I was relying on the avoid function I guess I shouldn't. it flew in no problems amongst the trees, took the shots I needed and it clipped a branch on the way out, I think in clear weather it would have detected the branches.
@shaunmk
@shaunmk 20 күн бұрын
could condensation get built up as well on the front?..maybe a future update might fix it...great video
@MarvelyMaker
@MarvelyMaker 21 күн бұрын
*_Thank you very much for this notice. I am one of those who loves to fly above and through the clouds. More than enough reason not to buy this drone. Congratulations for your work, you always warn us about dji problems so we can avoid them or be on alert for possible unforeseen failures. Greetings from the Canary Islands partner._*
@dazzpol
@dazzpol 20 күн бұрын
I’ve had the same issue flying in fog with the mini 3pro. I’m presuming this would be the same with any of the drones using IR sensors. Whilst flying in the moors my drone was caught in a rolling fog bank. I had a hell of a job getting it home as the IR landing sensors kept thinking it was close to the ground and kept trying to land - not good when the drone is a distance out.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 20 күн бұрын
Yes indeed however this is exactly my point, using them as landing sensors in these conditions is tricky as it is yet using it as your sole OA system just isn’t suitable in my honest opinion and your experience confirms that. Thanks for taking the time to comment
@irhuz8683
@irhuz8683 20 күн бұрын
Man oh mann I'd be terrified! Thanks mann
@IaninLondon
@IaninLondon 19 күн бұрын
Hey Gavin. Wish I'd seen this before yesterday's flight! I kind of get fog confusing things, but slight mist should not cause this issue. This is the first time I've seen a failsafe RTH fail and making a situation worse. This is poor. And as you say, you weren't in heavy fog (until it rose up into it during the RTH). Great investigative work mate. Cheers, Ian.
@SSK-27
@SSK-27 20 күн бұрын
A disconnect RTH situation is definitely an issue. In that scenario, some sort of automatic override of obstacle avoidance would be the best case scenario. Hopefully DJI can address this. Would also like to see a bypass mode vs just auto braking. It would make the drone a lot more useful in near ground tracking of people.
@pache11
@pache11 21 күн бұрын
I think the flip will be affected when flying in mist from waves, waterfalls, smoke and more. Any aerial particulates will likely be seen as an obstacle. I liked the mini 2 because it didn’t care, no obstacle avoidance, and could fly in very foggy conditions without issues.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
Indeed I agree completely.
@AtortAerials
@AtortAerials 20 күн бұрын
Mini 2 f'n rocks I'll never sell mine! I enjoy it more than my Mini 3 and 4 Pro's too.
@thomasjeffersonscott
@thomasjeffersonscott 20 күн бұрын
@@GAVINHRAt this point I might as well buy a mini 2 and out on prop guards…
@lemony_
@lemony_ 17 күн бұрын
@@AtortAerialsWhat do you like so much on the Mini 2 compared to the Mini 3 and Mini 4 Pro? Do you miss the active tracking on the Mini 2? Do you think, that the Mini 3 is better than the Flip even if is has no obstacle avoidance?
@AtortAerials
@AtortAerials 17 күн бұрын
@ just looking back at my mini two footage it’s freaking sick! It’s like looking back at an old camera and realizing how amazing it was quality wise and they keep on coming out with newer ones but the old one was so good it didn’t even need to be changed or upgraded….kind of like that. I never felt blown away with my mini three pro or mini four pro honestly. I have to fly my Mini 4 Pro soon and do a comparison video with the Flip.
@MakMak-u1w
@MakMak-u1w 16 күн бұрын
What if you point camera downwards and fly it towards you?
@BeautifulNorfolk
@BeautifulNorfolk 21 күн бұрын
Good info, hopefully will save someone grief! Still looks like a cool drone though! 🙂
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
Beyond this which I thought was worth mentioning I really like it I have to admit the picture is superb and I don’t mind the design either way
@ssb73q
@ssb73q 20 күн бұрын
Hi, thanks for the review. Is it possible that dew from the fog coats the front sensor cover and that is the reason it thinks there is an obstacle?
@iamleek
@iamleek 20 күн бұрын
Thank you veyr much.
@gimpman1357
@gimpman1357 21 күн бұрын
In conclusion the Flip is a Flop in the Fog. D'Oh!
@Droneking68
@Droneking68 20 күн бұрын
No good in wind neither
@gimpman1357
@gimpman1357 20 күн бұрын
@@Droneking68 It Flips in the wind. Hence the name.
@ododargo
@ododargo 21 күн бұрын
hi there few days ago i was flying along the coast sea mist blew in so fast it gave me trouble landing my mini4 pro the mist confused it and i dont like the flip fancied a neo but my mobile aint on djis list and aint buying a new one so ill stick with the 4 happy flying
@TinyPirate88
@TinyPirate88 13 күн бұрын
Send this video to Fox Mulder,maybe something is around this area😶! BTW thanks for the informations!
@mavs8888
@mavs8888 20 күн бұрын
Indeed this happened to me al well... but.... you can always BACKWARDS in case of a problem.....
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 20 күн бұрын
How do you go backwards if you lose signal and failsafe RTH kicks in?
@MichasWelt
@MichasWelt 21 күн бұрын
"The Drone Creative" also discoverded that and a lot more. I think you will be disappionted when flying under windy conditions.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
Hi my friend, so far it’s been ok in the wind for me, I think the issue is we have been spoilt with the mini 4 pro being so good, this is rated at 4ms less than the mini 4 pro so yes I expect it won’t be as good in the wind overall however as I mentioned so far it’s not struggled personally. Thanks for the comment as always !
@pastypiratepaul
@pastypiratepaul 20 күн бұрын
I was toying with the idea of adding the flip to my fleet, after seeing this i think il pass, as i live in Cornwall and a lot of my flights are over water and as such i fly through patches of sea mist, have subscribed as you seem to tell it as it is, cheers .
@gerdje1976
@gerdje1976 21 күн бұрын
I have the flip and during my run i had this same issue. I contacted dji about this issue
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
Wow! Thank you for also confirming this even though I’m sorry to hear it happened, it seems there’s certainly an issue with the type of sensor used for this flip
@jdd1777
@jdd1777 21 күн бұрын
Can you not fly backwards or sideways back to you?
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
What if you had a lost connection RTH? If you have control there’s something you can do yes but if not then it could be a real problem
@andrescarrasco1248
@andrescarrasco1248 20 күн бұрын
In the case you want to fly 100% manual, this drone flyies better or worse than the mini 3 non pro?
@aerialphotographyRDT
@aerialphotographyRDT 20 күн бұрын
Good video thx! Don't you think it is using the normal camera as well for dogging opticals?
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 20 күн бұрын
According to the manual no, the hoverair x1 pro max uses that
@aerialphotographyRDT
@aerialphotographyRDT 20 күн бұрын
@ And the Neo too I think.
@aerialphotographyRDT
@aerialphotographyRDT 20 күн бұрын
Thx!
@uptowndisco2
@uptowndisco2 20 күн бұрын
Hi Gav xtra note if someone hits your Flip on the front with a red pen laser they can stop your forward flight 🤣
@ptaylor5014
@ptaylor5014 21 күн бұрын
I wonder if you smudge fingerprints or wet the front of that sensor a little it will do the same thing?
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
Bingo, from what I have read if that screen picks up moisture that can also cause it
@richiefrank15productions
@richiefrank15productions 18 күн бұрын
I woulda flown out of the fog backwards using your map to guide you back out.
@SchuerNick
@SchuerNick 21 күн бұрын
I can say that this happened to me today when flying my Flip. Also during foggy weather... Drone could not move forward in the fog. With RTH enabled the drone ascended and flew away from me. Had to manually control it to get it back.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
With the greatest of respects I’m sorry to hear that happened however also kinda pleased it confirms my findings. Thank you for taking the time to comment and feedback it back
@tudorradu9044
@tudorradu9044 20 күн бұрын
how you activate complete manual mode? please explain more
@GoPlacesLKN
@GoPlacesLKN 21 күн бұрын
Hey I’m having the same issue with my air 3s. Today I was flying and it was clear and sunny. Every time I faced the sun the obstacle avoidance activated and would not let me move
@gbkiller007
@gbkiller007 20 күн бұрын
Thats normal 👍
@user-xx4jd2rh6q
@user-xx4jd2rh6q 21 күн бұрын
I have had the same problem with the mini 4 Pro but the sensors do not work in low Light so I would say it's an upgrade but it's not perfect the same as the mini 4 Pro affected by fog and detecting opticals when they are not there.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
I’ve never had a single issue with the mini 4 pro like that so that’s certainly interesting thank you for sharing that
@WelshLad52
@WelshLad52 21 күн бұрын
@@GAVINHR Me too Iv'e had no issue in flying in fog with my M4P.
@jtmphoto
@jtmphoto 21 күн бұрын
I had the same issue with a mini 4 pro in heavy fog
@MatsHägglund-o2o
@MatsHägglund-o2o 20 күн бұрын
I'm just curious about the naming convention here, "infrared sensor" vs "lidar" e g laser based. From internet: "Lidar (/ˈlaɪdɑːr/, also LIDAR, LiDAR or LADAR, an acronym of "light detection and ranging"[1] or "laser imaging, detection, and ranging"[2]) is a method for determining ranges by targeting an object or a surface with a laser and measuring the time for the reflected light to return to the receiver. Lidar may operate in a fixed direction (e.g., vertical) or it may scan multiple directions, in which case it is known as lidar scanning or 3D laser scanning, a special combination of 3-D scanning and laser scanning."
@Just_jack86
@Just_jack86 8 күн бұрын
Flying in fog will significantly affect the obstacle avoidance, so I would avoid this at all costs. But the main reason DJI advises against flying in fog or mist is because the drone lacks an IP rating, meaning operating in such conditions is outside its operational enverlope and deemed unsafe. Therefore, accidents may not be covered by insurance due to potential water damage. Undstand your drones limitations and have fun but be safe. "Individuals are not punished for actions, omissions or decisions taken by them that are commensurate with their experience and training, but which result in a reportable event; however, gross negligence, wilful violations and destructive acts are not tolerated".
@MightyMike888
@MightyMike888 21 күн бұрын
well thank god I live in Tenerife then haha wont have this problem at all all year sun here , but good spot and good to know
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
I am so jealous !
@TrapCityProd
@TrapCityProd 18 күн бұрын
It’s interesting that the Flip is being compared to the Neo, when they have absolutely nothing really in common other than being DJI! Ok, they do share some similar features with the palm launch, etc. The Flip drone is merely the second generation of the Spark from many years ago, even the obstacle avoidance system is the same, as well as the palm launch and other features in the drone. That’s what the Spark should have been originally, including the 4K video. My guess would be they had to go with the old obstacle avoidance system to free up enough weight for the fan shrouds. And other than special cases like this, it’ll work well enough for most people. Where DJI really screwed up is not including remote ID in the US, because if you post a video from this drone on any social media even if you aren’t monetizing it, the social media platform is. Which means you need to be a Part 107 pilot to be able to post video on media in the US. Doesn’t matter who’s monetizing it, otherwise you’d be able to contribute video to public domain, which is still considered monetized.
@AtortAerials
@AtortAerials 20 күн бұрын
2GB of internal storage is a joke too wtf is DJI thinking it's 2025?!? Just got mine so seeing some of this for the first time.
@TrapCityProd
@TrapCityProd 18 күн бұрын
What is DJI thinking? They’re thinking that a 256 GB card is only $25 US, that’s what they’re thinking!
@AtortAerials
@AtortAerials 18 күн бұрын
@ it’s like there’re not thinking at all too! I bet to add at least as much internal storage as the Neo it would have cost them under $1 guarantee give me a break memory so cheap now.
@IslaVision3
@IslaVision3 21 күн бұрын
Muy bueno campeón…👏👏👏🤘😘
@greenmedic88
@greenmedic88 20 күн бұрын
The fog set off obstacle avoidance; that's crazy. I was under the impression that IR would see through fog and mist, but apparently LiDAR is in order for that.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 20 күн бұрын
That’s what the impression I thought also (uneducated thought) however after getting these results and researching further it seems it’s not ideal in these conditions not just for but even general water droplets in the air can confuse the sensor
@thathawayaerialphotos
@thathawayaerialphotos 20 күн бұрын
Developers at DJI should use computer vision models (e.g., trained on foggy vs clear datasets) to identify fog or mist in the drone’s environment using the camera. Then include a conditional statement (simplified for people who don't program) "if fog then turn off obstacle braking". There is no reason why DJI can't fix this in a future update, but it is a question of do they care enough about their users. They already use computer vision to detect subjects when using subject scan.
@davidgoulden3543
@davidgoulden3543 21 күн бұрын
Hello I,m a newby to Drones and I have had exactly the same problems.The fog was bearly noticeable and even in the follow me mode at about 2 meters high it kept stopping and there was no fog as I could see at all just a damp miserable day I have now returned my Flip before I lost it I did manage when it was at some hight to nurse it back more by luck than skill great video cheers Dave
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for taking the time to write about your experience and confirms my findings, if you have the extra cash I would suggest the mini 4 pro I’ve never had a single issue with that drone
@Peakabike
@Peakabike 21 күн бұрын
Switching to S was the obvious choice. no sweat!
@AtortAerials
@AtortAerials 20 күн бұрын
If that happens to me like the fog thing with you I'll totally return it.
@kamikazekaos
@kamikazekaos 20 күн бұрын
DJI are getting too cosy in this market , thinking they can get away and release any crap .😅
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 20 күн бұрын
The fact is, for well within VLOS the hover air x1 pro max is better especially with omni terrain
@jack00scarecrow
@jack00scarecrow 20 күн бұрын
can the flip parallel track you, I'm looking to do side tracking shoots
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 20 күн бұрын
It may be able to do it using palm take off or mobile or you trick it by holding it out to your side like the Neo but there is not a parallel option on the settings
@jack00scarecrow
@jack00scarecrow 20 күн бұрын
thanks for the reply, so it does not have the active tracking option with the inner and outer circles even if its using the remote ?
@dwhizz8814
@dwhizz8814 18 күн бұрын
No sensors is a red flag 🚩 immediately
@HamTechRadioScannerDrones
@HamTechRadioScannerDrones 21 күн бұрын
Fog is no go
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
Under normal circumstances yes it’s a no go anyway but this seemed particularly sensitive even when it wasn’t particularly foggy
@bigsighmusicdroneblogs1843
@bigsighmusicdroneblogs1843 20 күн бұрын
I had a similar situation over a cliff in Cyprus but with my mini 2. The Notification I had was. Controller disconnected altho im looking at the drone and it's in line of sight , just over the cliff edge but hovering actually over the sea water Then The Drone was telling me it is doing Forced landing in 99second , and I couldn't do anything no control whatsoever but did cancel until 12 seconds left , luckily I managed to cancel it and then got 3 sets of countdowns of 99seconds , the 4th was forced landing was telling me in 60seconds , im thinking it'd foh ting down every-time im done for , So at this point with still no control over the drone and battery at 20% but I can still see it , but I'm unable to get it , I'm accepting the fact it's going to land in the sea over the cliff edge sith my stomach churning , I turned controller off and back in quick hoping to reconnect and it did yessss to my relief and last strike of luck last notification was drone landing in 12 seconds @12% batterly left. I pushed lever forward and on its way down just managed to get very slight forward motion By the skin of my teeth it landed at the cliff edge , and idid manage to retrieve it, that I think like you was caused by slight sea mist , now im terrified to fly over water , now you know me and my videos that's all I like to do. , Very scary In fact iv not flown much since S
@darrenpang1318
@darrenpang1318 20 күн бұрын
It's really just a minor problem... Probably needs to get reported to DJI so that a software patch to fix it... Like for example, put a manual way to switch off obstable detection.
@sebasmediaprod
@sebasmediaprod 20 күн бұрын
No es un problema del Flip. Es un problema de muchos drones.
@darylswalker
@darylswalker 20 күн бұрын
This isn’t just Flip related. It happens with the normal obstacle avoidance sensors on Mavic. Air. Mini. I’ve had it happen with flying towards the sun. If you’re a good enough pilot, It’s an easy fix. Just put it in sport mode and fly manually.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 20 күн бұрын
And what would you do as a fix if you lost signal and fail safe rth kicked in? Pilot skills are out the question there. Never in thousands of hours of flying mavic, air, and all of the mini drones have I ever had this happen in foggy conditions
@darylswalker
@darylswalker 20 күн бұрын
@ not questioning you here dude…and not questioning your pilot skills. I’m just saying it’s not just a flaw with the flip. It’s happened to me countless times with the other models in fog and the sun. Maybe you’ve been lucky and not had it happen before.
@yostinpoveda2083
@yostinpoveda2083 21 күн бұрын
Well i heard googles support is going to come in an update per a person who has good source. This about the fog is great call, i will disable obstacle avoidance if ever want to take it on a foggy day. But drone is not failing as they advise to not fly in any type of minimum fog. In other drones you can do it because it did not even have any obstacle avoidance. Another use said this same thing happens on a pro. Im waiting for your review of our dji flip. Mini 4k is too outdatef, Mini 3 too, then neo is a toy, avata does not have the good quality camera of thos one. Then flip is right in my buget. I cant get air 3s nor the pro
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
This is certainly not a bashing of the flip, as I mentioned to you in another comment I really like it and I think it’s a viable replacement for the mini 3 personally. I’ll edit the video tomorrow the full review
@yostinpoveda2083
@yostinpoveda2083 21 күн бұрын
@GAVINHR great thanks a lot. Hope you have a nice evening. I have reserved mine and will pick it up tomarrow. Hope i dont regret it lmao. I practiced so much with aftermarket propeller guards but it limited my altitude and distance. Knowing dji brought us for the first time an stabilized drone with guards included is amazing. I will no longer be limited. One day a controller got damaged and my mini 2 se crashed and broke a propeller.. after that day i began to use aftermarket guards but i could only fly indoors and even if i crashed it in the house, then propellers would never brake with guards on.
@jean-marcnaud2838
@jean-marcnaud2838 21 күн бұрын
C'est quoi un jouet ?? Voilà un flip qui n'est pas un jouet , s'arrête tous les 3 mètres à la moindre branche , n'aime pas le brouillard, serait mieux utile pour climatiser votre voiture comme ventilo d'appoint, n'est compatible avec aucune lunette aucune manette fpv n'est pas un drone fpv et abusivement appelé flip ,non compatible avec le motion controller alors oui neo est un jouet quant à lui et fort heureusement et est beaucoup moins cher que cette petite charette à bras au prix de 800 € carrément, un truc pour les gogos !
@yostinpoveda2083
@yostinpoveda2083 21 күн бұрын
@ Hi there, well it retails for $439 with RCN3 vs the neo with RCN 3controller which is about $320.I have seen many videos of the pro also stopping at branches and even crashing. Here is the proof: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHquoHijopuFe7csi=d1470adreGpdApUT At the end of the day obstacle avoidance is last resource. Then I will give you the fog point, dji has to fix it but on my case if i see fog and want to risk it will make sure to disable obstacle on the flip. It was a hard desition trust me, I wanted the neo but having a mini 2 se in the past i cant lower in camera quality at all. I love the fact of propeller guards on a stabilized drone for the first time as it will save propellers vs without propeller guards i would lose 1 or 2 on a normal drone.
@ernieschatz3783
@ernieschatz3783 20 күн бұрын
"Serious flaw" I've had DJI drones with 360 deg obstacle avoidance do the same thing. You have to be savvy enough to go to Sport mode when that happens. Quite the clicky, clicky drama queen content. Without a controller in those conditions, you are assuming a much higher risk.
@aswinchan1600
@aswinchan1600 20 күн бұрын
It seems that this drone was in demand at the first launch because of the dji brand. Listening to some reviewers' opinions about the dji flip, it seems far from expectations. A big challenge for dji flip to capture the market.
@markbailey2713
@markbailey2713 21 күн бұрын
Excellent report. It's a no from me.
@OnyxExeL
@OnyxExeL 19 күн бұрын
I don't see this as a flaw, I would only see it as a flaw if it wasn't in the manual. It's called following directions. All you are doing is explaining why they put it in the manual not to do it. It didn't say thick fog it just says fog. Other than that love your videos.
@gerdje1976
@gerdje1976 21 күн бұрын
when i was flying with my smartphone or the rc 2 the beeping never stopped and the red ring was ALWAYS on screen. One time it suddenly rised between the trees and i could not get it down for a while or it was hanging there 50 cm of the ground and it would not move at all. I bought this drone beside my air 3S and hoverair pro max, but this is the worst drone i bought in a long time. I had a Mini 4 pro and sold it for a air 3 then bought also a avata 2 and then a air 3s ( sold air 3 ). The hoverair pro max is great but the batterylife is very short, but it is much more stable then this drone. I don't know if i return it or wait for a update. But i paid 850 euro''s for this drone with 2 years dji care, and @ this time it is not worth it's money. ps : one time even the camera for some reason went up and down 🥴
@mcmach1
@mcmach1 21 күн бұрын
You only need the mini4 pro, best all rounder
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
@mcmach1 I agree completely.
@gerdje1976
@gerdje1976 21 күн бұрын
@ it was a very good drone, but the air 3/3s was for me a better choice. the mini 4 pro was great but when i was making a video when i was running in the woods the mini 4 or air 3 would hit branches constantly. The Flip was for me a great choice for it's no controller / propeller guards. But as it stands now, the hoverair drones do a better job in that regard
@stephanedurden922
@stephanedurden922 20 күн бұрын
Do you think DJI will solve that issue with an update ?
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 20 күн бұрын
My guess is the most simple solution would be to ensure the sensors don’t switch on during RTH as an interim solution which would at least allow the drone to fly forwards or give us OA control when using the mobile app
@ptaylor5014
@ptaylor5014 21 күн бұрын
To summarize, don't flip in the fog 🤣, this is a major flaw in the design and people could lose their flip or worse!
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
Pretty much my friend!
@Cassp0nk
@Cassp0nk 21 күн бұрын
Or follow instructions and don’t fly in fog, or if you do turn off avoidance. This is pretty silly to get worked up about. I wonder if it has the bug the Neo has where it goes nuts and crashes.
@奇C
@奇C 20 күн бұрын
Shooting a 4K video in foggy conditions is meaningless.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 20 күн бұрын
@@Cassp0nk wasn’t foggy when I started as I explained and no where near enough fog to expect it to be affected by it
@robc2892
@robc2892 12 күн бұрын
​@@Cassp0nkcan you turn off the obstacle avoidance and it'll fly back if disconnected or out of range without it?
@LastFlightOut
@LastFlightOut 20 күн бұрын
one mans light mist is another mans heavy fog
@UKBUBBLERS
@UKBUBBLERS 20 күн бұрын
I'm definitely not buying the dji flop 😂😂
@gringosabe
@gringosabe 19 күн бұрын
But instant it clear? DJI did say don't fly in fog. So it's simple just follow the user guide😅
@DarR1299
@DarR1299 21 күн бұрын
Flip = McSalad Shakers = New Coke = Bud light (Ouch)
@Morlanair-rq3fp
@Morlanair-rq3fp 20 күн бұрын
lets wait on the firmware updates shall we
@MohamadNazirulBinZuhairi
@MohamadNazirulBinZuhairi 18 күн бұрын
but it clearly state not to fly in fog. Probably because such issue would occur...so dji did warned the users.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 18 күн бұрын
Of course that is correct, but close to the ground there is VERY little - and also DJI say this with other drones but they manage fine. it is a sensor issue
@MohamadNazirulBinZuhairi
@MohamadNazirulBinZuhairi 17 күн бұрын
@@GAVINHR Yeah but based on your video, we can see the fog clearly. So if users are flying close to the ground and the issue occur with little fog, then they should stop and wait till the fog is clear. However, if they are flying high in such condition, this could possible lead to a flyaway situation. Other drone use different forward sensors so you cant really compare Flip with other series. But I totally agree with you that this is a flaw and we as users maybe can suggest them to fix or perfect it. then again, for the time being, I would not fly in such conditions.
@douglasfrazier3346
@douglasfrazier3346 21 күн бұрын
WOW
@johnnymac26
@johnnymac26 21 күн бұрын
My old autel evo 1 has rear infrared sensors and they are terrible but that drone is seven years old....that's about a million years in drone time lol.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
Haha it really is! Do you remember the nano + having that issue? I remember Ian in London covering it
@johnnymac26
@johnnymac26 21 күн бұрын
@@GAVINHR yep nightmare lol
@Droneking68
@Droneking68 20 күн бұрын
No good in wind
@psebi
@psebi 21 күн бұрын
Old issue from spark
@TonyHolmes-z9r
@TonyHolmes-z9r 20 күн бұрын
You not supposed to fly in fog anyways
@ianfromcorby
@ianfromcorby 20 күн бұрын
I agree but sometimes fog can roll in very quickly and catch you out.
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 20 күн бұрын
Of course, I mentioned this clearly in the video twice nd referenced the manual stating as such however it’s quite clear it wasn’t particularly bad and two of the examples I showed I don’t think anybody would expect that would be enough to cause an issue
@mex5341
@mex5341 20 күн бұрын
so just dont fly in mist .
@miboxed
@miboxed 21 күн бұрын
When ever a new drone comes every body is praising it and than after some times they pinpoints it's drawbacks and than faults and than a new models comes with no significant technology upgrade..tired of all this nonsense 🙄
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
I’ve not praised it yet 🤷🏼‍♂️
@TECHDRONEMEDIA
@TECHDRONEMEDIA 21 күн бұрын
@@GAVINHR😂 you really haven’t
@GAVINHR
@GAVINHR 21 күн бұрын
I do quite like it in all honesty but this needed mentioning
@DroneLifeLelystad
@DroneLifeLelystad 20 күн бұрын
Most ugly DJI drone ever! A flying Ferris wheel. Just wait for a Neo 2 or a Neo Pro with a better camera 📷❤
@sentlon
@sentlon 21 күн бұрын
Mean cheap drone won’t be good
@placemats1598
@placemats1598 20 күн бұрын
This drone is a miss.Too expensive too loud.
@nikjewell
@nikjewell 21 күн бұрын
Crikey. I saw another video on poor wind stability earlier. Pass.
@yostinpoveda2083
@yostinpoveda2083 21 күн бұрын
Wind stabilit is bad in all minies due to simple math. Weight ratio.
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