Bat Guano vs. Vermicompost experiment for chilli plants

[@ChilliChump]

I am looking forward to doing this experiment on a much larger scale next year, including a wider variety of composts, soil mixes etc. Something you would be interested in? p.s. That is not bat poo on my face!

[@G-boi]

Would be intresting to see a comparison between differend grow mediums and soil mixes😁🙂😉.

[@toms.3977]

Just what did happen to your face? Fireworks? Looks like you have some eyebrow missing. Been there, done that a few times. Hope all is well at your homestead.

[@MrMoosefire]

Would've been fun to see 1 more plant, with half part of VC and half part BG. no particular reason, but maybe it would be the best of both worlds...

[@soulsmile4799]

Vermicompost bat guano mix are a staple in the cannabis industry. It's both not one or the other.

[@somethingboutgardening9532]

Yeah definitely worth seeing

[@CraftyZA]

I did an experiment beginning of our last season here in SA on one of my bhut jolokias. Growth was much much bigger than what you saw in your experiment. My Guano plant nearly doubled in branches and size to the regular compost mix. I did take much longer to start fruiting, but once it did, there was just no stopping it. At some point I had 40 fruits at the same time on the tree. The others only maxed out 7-10 fruits on the tree at a given point.

[@bentgenetics8623]

If you mix the two fertilizers you should be set to grow a awesome plant.

[@xclusivegrower]

@@bentgenetics8623 exactly!!! 👍

[@murtasma]

I've found bat guano to do the same thing to my fruiting plants. I don't use it for fruiting plants now. It does however work great for plants which you want to grow a lot of green on.

[@kentmccormick4230]

I would like to see a third one done with a combo of both fertilizer's

[@socaldragonfarms5751]

I love both of those amendments have to be my favorites. Cheers!😎💯🤙🏽

[@josephkaneaster1053]

Yup bat guano is the best Especially when I mix it with medina and bone meal combo❤

[@lonndawg7554]

this was an excellent experiment to try, without experiments like this, We cannot improve our gardening techniques, The first showing of the plants, I immediately saw two, big differences in the characteristics of these two types of fertilizer on the Peri Peri, pepper plants, my training from watching this channel must be starting to show. :-) I think the flowering of the Vericompost, appears to be much more adventitious to the plants, health and pepper production. What's also interesting is, as you pointed out... Was the plants overall growing structure was different, one seem to grow tall,.. The other more bushy and produced flowers. This information should help us all in our next planting. this might be considered a small sample... But I think the growing characteristics are dramatic between the two, so it's excellent information.

[@christopherwarner6896]

Great video, inspires my own sense of experimentation in my garden to play with fertilizers and fertilizer quantities

[@rbid]

very instructive. BTW, on the transplant, I saw an improved version of your trick, that is, do the same in putting the plant with its old plastic pot in the same way as you did, but before removing them, water them, so the mix gets wet before you extract the plant and plastic pot, the walls will not collapse, and from here, you continue the same way as you explained. Greetings from the Galilee.

[@ChilliChump]

I may give that a try, thanks Ricky.

[@rbid]

@@ChilliChump Will stay tuned to read your results. Greetings this time from Jerusalem.. (came to visit my daughter)

[@ChilliChump]

You get around Ricky! Enjoy your visit

[@Floreypottery]

Next time you experiment I would of done one with worm compost and guano they both do different think benefit wise my peppers I give worn castings too are loaded down with peppers my cayennes have 30 plus per branch it’s crazy

[@RudyWarman]

Must be an insect eating bat, which is usually high Nitrogen. I have got hold of some fruit eating bat which is so high in phosphorus. Nice video. Thanks.

[@dachreport]

Hi. Is there an update for this video. Would love to see if the fruits were better 😊

[@gerhardbecker3781]

Should have had one with neither and one with both... Would love to see if it grew big and lots of flowers with a mixture. But that being said, think if it's hydro where the solution had all the nutrients it would be better?

[@ChilliChump]

That's a project for next year! Need time, and space to do it properly!

[@gerhardbecker3781]

@@ChilliChump you should think about buying a plot of land. Or converting the whole backyard into a greenhouse😂🤔😅

[@ChilliChump]

Working on it

[@gerhardbecker3781]

@@ChilliChump I'm intrigued... Tel me more😁👍

[@trailerparktrash99]

Love your videos! It would be really interesting to see: Vermi / Guano / Vermi and Guano. In a perfect world you would get a gigantic plant with lots of flowers if you just add both ;)

[@Dreekuz]

thanks for doing this

[@themightymustache69]

Pretty cool man, that is an interesting outcome

[@veger2001]

Saltpeter is chemical potassium nitrate, KNO Great video experiment, be good for some leafy green or green vegetables that need high N or potassium

[@3star2nr]

Bat guano is high in nitrogen. Vermin compost is closer to a 1-1-1 mixture so the bat guano will have darker leaved and have more explosive top growth. If you want big fruits off it. All u need to do is feed it a banana tea. And reduce the bat guano feeding. That will give you a huge boost in potassium and phosphorus and you'll get massive fruiting

[@jasonaliff8063]

Maybe BG early and then switch to vermi? kind of like using Flora Grow where you can control the nutrients and hopefully the outcome as well.

[@paulwoodburn3735]

How interesting. This is so debatable so I would suggest a control in this experiment being repeated. Vermicompost (worm castings) are very good but my question is how does bat guano compare to rabbit manure? Over all a fantastic experiment! I'd say the vermicompost has won here however the bat guano clearly has its uses. Thank you so much for this comparison.

[@michaellane9079]

Rabbit poo is hard to beat. I've put it on my 4ft by 10 ft beds for 5 years at 1 feed sack per bed. Mixing it in and planting the next day. No need to fertilize again all season. Did not use anything last year and still got 2lb tomatos and l I ts of peppers. Rabbit poo really makes some nice soil.

[@silverbackpeppers]

Nice comparison

[@jeffclarke5497]

So, you started the Covid trouble in the UK....?? Just ribbing. Thanks for the efforts!

[@somethingboutgardening9532]

It would be quite interesting to see how pure pepper plant compost will effect the growth, in order to survive the next year and produce better growth some plants will use it's previous year's foliage to fertilize itself

[@TheZachmann21]

I grew a couple ChilliChump piri piri this year and had similar differences between my plants. Same soil same pot size same nutrients. Same everything. Could just be slightly different strains of piri piri.

[@ChilliChump]

I made sure to use two seeds from exactly the same chilli pepper pod so that it should be a more even comparison.

[@felipesalgado6347]

Can you mix both of them?

[@keywestalert6329]

As expected. Most people don't seem to understand diversity! I appreciate the experiment. So the vermi gave the plant the nutrients it needed to flower and the guano gives this specific plant the ability to grow taller.

[@whiskers1978]

Did you compare, or at least know the NPK of the guano and worm poop prior to mixing? I wonder if the guano had a lot more Nitrogen, might explain why the plant wants to vegetate longer and faster

[@ChilliChump]

Bat guano typically has more nitrogen than vermicompost. But it also depends on the diet of the bats that you got it from (some bats eat insects, and others eat fruit).

[@mihavogric1182]

Nice experiment, but like you said yourself, two plants are not enough to determine if bat guano really effects pepper plants like this. I think the most precise results can be achieved by cloning peppers, so you have like 20 pepper plants with same genetics, and then you plant 10 with guano, 10 without. It would be nice to know from which spieces of bat this guano came from. Some bats eat only fruit, some eat only bugs, some eat both....This is a huge factor that effects on nutriens in guano.

[@DyesubDave]

Very interesting. It would be cool to see an experiment using vermicompost with a bit of bat guano added to compare with the other two. I'm wondering if you'd get the best of both worlds?

[@777tommys]

Can you try a plant combining both vermi and bat guanu!

[@forrest1968]

I would try a couple plants using FIM method and bending branches down to make plant spread out more. I have some Carolina Reaper seeds and I'm going to give it a try.

[@primelricafrente]

Cool video. What if you combine both? Whats the result?

[@ChilliChump]

I will be doing a few experiments like that on my channel. Should be interesting!

[@Bama5000]

Great video

[@akay.s]

Hello ; What is the name of the irrigation system?

[@ChilliChump]

It's my own design: Greenhouse automation kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKHHkpR5gdujnLc

[@u0296106]

You mentioned that guano is acidic and grows more acidic as it ages. I'm curious if you tested the soil pH at all after the 3 months? I had an issue this year where I wasn't getting many flowers on my peppers, but they were thriving otherwise. After a lot of testing and tweaking to no avail, I decided to take a soil sample and send it to the lab for testing. It found that I had been feeding my plants what they should have needed (NPK ratios were ideal), but my soil pH was low (5.4). After a bit of research, I came to the conclusion that the soil pH was too low for optimum Phosphorus uptake (hence the lush vegetative growth and minimal fruiting). Essentially, the Phosphorus was there but the plants couldn't use it like they wanted to). Over time, I was able to raise the pH and the flowers started showing up abundantly! These things don't happen in a vacuum, so there is the possibility that weather or some other factor could have been at play, but I for one am curious if the soil pH could have been a factor (would really like to validate my hypothesis at home) . Maybe something to consider checking if you try this test again... Either way, super awesome experiment and would love to see more videos like this :)

[@ChilliChump]

Hi there! I have tested actually. It never dipped that low in pH. Many of the fertlisers used today can drop the pH quite a bit, usually because they are assuming the water you using is neutral or alkaline. If you are using naturally acidic water, then the effect will be more pronounced. Heres another video you may be interested in kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYHCiZZuj85oe9E

[@luzrodriguez4701]

Hi am looking for a way to compuse my banana tree do you recommend bat guano on a tropical plant

[@ChilliChump]

Hi Luz, what do you mean by compuse? And yes, bat guano will work well with a tropical plant. A banana tree needs a lot of nutrients though, so try use something with an NPK of around 10-10-10 if you can.

[@thejacobhill]

That's what happens when nitrogen is out of range( on the high side) compared to potassium and potash.. I did it to my tomatoes so I had to adjust. 10 foot tomatoes plant with 2 fruit. I'll do better next year..one was experiment with new fertilizer instead of straight compost..

[@geomack012]

New to your channel and growing hot peppers...love watching your vids. I noticed you didn’t break up the roots when you transplanted as I’ve seen others do...is there a reason?

[@ChilliChump]

Thank you, and welcome to my channel! I don't break up the roots because it isn't really necessary. If it completely rootbound, then I may tease the ends a little...but otherwise I don't.

[@linaso9739]

Interesting comparison. It seems that vermicompost works better but maybe the bigger one will cache up.

[@ChilliChump]

I think there will definitely be an improvement now, the macronutrients of the vermicompost and bat guano should be used up by now...so they will both benefit from the fertilising I do through watering. Will be interesting to see in a couple months what they look like side-by-side

[@sivareddyartandcraft8294]

very interisating

[@laximenezfyvie]

Are you concerned at all about human diseases, specially viral, that can be transmitted in bat guano?

[@mgu06]

Get so hype for these vids

[@jimd1617]

nice

[@nicola3738]

They were fantastic plants. Do you remember what kind of bat guano you used? Perhaps it was the type with a greater quantity of nitrogen, because the growth was truly amazing. In theory, with a guano with a prevalence of phosphorus and potassium, you should have had more flowers on the left plant. In theory...But good job👍

[@u0296106]

Maybe the soil pH was too low (he said that guano lowers pH over time) for the plants to be able to effectively use it? Curious what the ph was at the time. Nitrogen and potassium can still be utilized more efficiently at a lower soi pH than phosphorus.

[@firstutopia5553]

Where was the final video?

[@ChilliChump]

Have a look at this update video kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYaxg4VqetxrbZo

[@roberthunter5059]

A quick Google search tells me that guano's NPK is 10-3-1, which would explain the plant's green growth at the expense of flowers and fruit.

[@ChilliChump]

if you look at thenutrientcompany.com/blogs/horticulture/npk-value-of-everything-organic-database you will see the bat guano can be wide ranging in the NPK ratios. But I would agree with you, most likely a high nitrogen percentage in this.

[@roberthunter5059]

@@ChilliChump Yeah, that's why I qualified my statement with the Google search disclaimer. All natural fertilizers vary in their composition. I was just using the first result that didn't look like nonsense.

[@ChilliChump]

I was going to add the NPK in the video as a popup...but I got so many different results, I didn't want to be misleading! But like I said, I think you are right...has to be excess nitrogen causing the difference in growth. The good thing though with vermicompost is the consistency I get with it. As long as you are supplementing the nitrogen, then you won't have issues.

[@unidentifiedaventador]

exquisite content

[@arnoldh7204]

Ad Cal-Mag at flowering stage and you will get nice flower....like canabis 😂

[@DeBelgischeBelegger]

Hi I was wondering how these plants ended up? I'm considering using bat guano to add to my soil this year! But if it only improves growth and not flowering then I won't use it because we have a relatively short season in zone 7b

[@ChilliChump]

I showed their progress in my garden update videos in 2020, have a look at the later ones. I would recommend a mix using bat guano and other more complete compost.

[@ChilliChump]

2020 Chilli Garden updates with ChilliChump: kzbin.info/aero/PLuQ_ySnkV1emS1G4rnhu7cA3d4EoaDsyC

[@michaeljarvis8377]

any update?

[@Unlucky-Dube]

Hey Chillichump! I have about 2 kg of small peppers (in jhb) in the fridge that are slowly going off, is it worth it to freeze them if I can't pickle them now?

[@ChilliChump]

Yeah, you can freeze them...and choose what to do with them later.

[@butzmn7190]

Is there a Taste difference between the chillies?

[@ChilliChump]

none ripe yet to try. But doubt there will be too much of a difference. Might include that as part of the experiment next year.

[@garyz2043]

I got problems with my chillis this year. All dying! Bad compost or maybe something else. Don't know.Grown on windowsill. Great last year. Terrible this year. ?

[@ChilliChump]

When you say dying, do you mean the flowers are dropping off?

[@garyz2043]

@@ChilliChump No. The whole plant is dying.Leaves curling up and not green. Not seen this before. Several plants are affected?

[@ChilliChump]

Very odd. Are you deep watering every other day? How much water are you using each time you water, and hope big are your pots?

[@d34dly0101]

Great video VC BETTER . Morrisons have some great boxes on sale £10 get yourself down there mate ?

[@ChilliChump]

Boxes of?

[@yes350yes]

Of course we dont know where the bat guano actually came from but most likely a higher level of nitro,, so for plants that you want more flowers or fruit you want something with a higher phosphate.

[@nellinecronje6911]

Have you tried quail poop yet? I have about 30 coturnix quail, and they produce an eye (and nose) watering amount of ordure. It's hot, so it needs to be composted before use use or you'll burn your plants. Hmmm- peri-peri quail...

[@ChilliChump]

Not yet, but one for the list for the larger experiment I do in the future!

[@carbon5261]

When it comes to adding nutrients via water, when there's already a fertilizer at work, how do you avoid over feeding? Also, if I want to add nutrients by water but only when my potting soil is "used up", how can I tell when that point is reached? Plant nutrition is very interesting and I've read a bit about it but it still seems like dark magic to me

[@ChilliChump]

I don't feed for at least a month after repotting. You get a feel for when they need to start getting fed, takes a bit of experience over the years. This year I waited 2 months before starting to feed because of our weather conditions.

[@anthonylarosa3357]

On the next experiment you should mix both the fertilizers together and see what happens separately

[@patburlewcox7736]

but what about the final yields? the guano plant looks like it's playing a longer game

[@gotigers13]

Interesting.

[@gopalarao99]

Interesting. Vermicompost seems to be a better option.

[@CrowMagnum]

I'm seeing a similar difference between different bird's eye plants where there is no difference in the soil mix.

[@perthmadbloke]

Both 👊👊

[@theunderdog_warlock]

Use both :-).

[@ZE308AC]

Worm casting has more flowers. Why not mix the worm casting with bat guano to get ther best of both world?

[@STOK5OH]

You should've done a 3rd, with equal parts of each. 😉

[@ChilliChump]

Didn't have enough for that unfortunately

[@peppersadventure]

phenotype or one was a more nitrogen rich soil.

[@ChilliChump]

the seeds came from the same pepper that I grew and isolated last year. The bat guano likely has a higher nitrogen percentage than the vermicompost

[@jaketheevans]

Can’t wait for your next super hot hot sauce

[@killerheYzUse]

in the experiment u need at list 2 plants not just 1

[@dubcindub15]

@1:23 Eh Shaun you seem like a lovely entertaining guy and all and I'd love to have a chat and a few pints with you....but do you always carry a knife?? Whuuuut?

[@Unlucky-Dube]

Oh no! A sharp thing to open other things! Won't someone think of the children?!

[@ChilliChump]

when I am in the garden, absolutely!

[@stingray427man]

Bat guano produces trees, almost double the height. Good lord.

[@shajidhasan3808]

Not only bat guano.If you feed your mallard or quail with only chitin rich protein such as mosquito larvae or black soldier fly larvae it will show same result.

[@chrisfryer3118]

That is a classic experiment, too much nitrogen (salt peter or just the nitrate) ends up in leafy growth, and less (or more phosphate or potassium) gives more flowers. I guess you new the outcome before the start, as you strike me as someone who does their research. My house stinks, I'm making black garlic, and I blame you, no one else. I'm also local to you, in Milbrook, nr Centre Parks.

[@ChilliChump]

Still great to see the result in practice. Showing is always more powerful than telling! Millbrook is not far at all from me.

[@christopherfletcher5384]

How about going 50 50 and reaping the best of both worlds.

[@wranther]

Almost appears as tho bat poo is higher in nitrogen than is worm poo Shaun? Quite a remarkable difference between those two plants over the short growth interval together. Always enjoy the look inside your green house or grow tunnel too. Perhaps as you may enjoy some spicy wings later today or tomorrow your time now, if you enjoy a corpse flower in bloom, have found one at CalPoly: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJ28aZKKhteLbbs Stay Spicy! Happy Gardening! -Bob...

[@ChilliChump]

I think that is certainly the case Bat Guano can have a MUCH higher nitrogen percentage. I didn't think it would make such a big difference though.

[@videoarchiv6938]

Lol. What do you mean with VS. ? These are totally different things with totally different ingredients to achieve separate goals.

[@ChilliChump]

Ingredients? They are both poop. Both a type of compost. Both widely regarded as "black gold" due to their efficacy.

[@videoarchiv6938]

@@ChilliChump compost holds mostly N where bat guano, if not further proceseed, naturally holds more P and then less K and even less N. First 1 for growth and last 1 for fruiting

[@ChilliChump]

@videoarchiv6938 Actually, that's not accurate. Bat guano typically has a significantly higher nitrogen content compared to vermicompost. The NPK values for bat guano are around 10-12% nitrogen, 3-10% phosphorus, and 1-2% potassium, depending on the type of guano (e.g., high-nitrogen or high-phosphorus varieties). In comparison, vermicompost usually contains only 1-3% nitrogen, 1-2% phosphorus, and 1-2% potassium, depending on the feedstock used. Vermicompost is fantastic for improving soil structure and releasing nutrients slowly, but it's not as concentrated in nitrogen as bat guano, which is better suited for providing a quick nitrogen boost to plants. This is also evident from the results of this experiment. If anything, bat guano is far from limited in nitrogen-it's one of its standout features!

[@pointsevendesign8140]

You should next time use 2 clones instead. The seeds still have different genetics.

[@jeffclarke5497]

Nitrogen.

[@bradcarby3765]

Gets a bag of shit in the mail. Is happy.

[@danlancia]

take several cuttings from the same plant and do the test again. this would avoid genetic difference

[@ChilliChump]

The seeds used in this experiment came from the same chilli pod, so any diversity would be minimal.

[@jaketheevans]

First