Batman v Superman Box Office vs Rotten Tomatoes Critics - REACTION & BREAKDOWN

Batman v Superman's box office doesn't match it's Rotten Tomatoes score from critics! A reaction and breakdown today!
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Today Beyond The Trailer host Grace Randolph gives a reaction and breakdown of the current Batman v Superman situation, from box office to Rotten Tomatoes to the future of DC movies! Will Warner Bros keep Zack Snyder? Is Justice League full movie in trouble? Share your own reaction to the Batman v Superman situation detailed in this breakdown! And be sure to make Beyond The Trailer your first stop for movie and entertainment news here on KZbin today!
CHAPTER TIMES
Overall Theory - 00:34
Rotten Tomatoes Score - 2:40
Box Office - 4:00
Reason #1 - 5:32
Reason #2 - 7:27
Reason #3 - 9:08
Reason #4 - 11:48
Marvel vs DC - 13:24
Future of BvS - 13:40
Hollywood vs Fans - 14:48
Future of DC Movies - 15:45
What WB needs to do - 16:25
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[@dillingerspaceman5513]

movie is good, most of critics are idiots, mcu is overrated, people is full of hate, next target: Ghstbusters lol, those kids...

[@jesusburgos1881]

K

[@luiscampanella1325]

+Dillinger Spaceman You said it men.

[@collector832]

MCU is definitely overrated. Doesn't matter what they put out. They can smear their shit on a piece of paper and marvel fanboys as well as critics will applause it. Love marvel though, I read their comics more than I do DC, however MCU is definitely overrated in my opinion.

[@oberonvortigern4138]

+JoshLemus See you in Theatres when civil war comes out. That movie is going to do what DC couldn't. And that's combine characters with developed storylines into a political war where the viewer doesn't know who is right. This movie can make big bucks with a shitty score because of its name. But the Russo Brothers are gonna kick this movie's ass. Mark my words Civil War is going to be much better than BvS

[@1DrunkSocialite]

+AidanET™ Ummm...AVENGERS. Age. Of. Ultron!

[@raiyzojr5442]

it's ironic that people thought this movie was going to fail because of Affleck and he turned out to be the best part of a movie that otherwise, is very divisive

[@unlobo6330]

yea

[@131kidflash]

yeah buddy bat flick

[@rockon609]

+raiyzo “spades” jr I'm still freaking out over the flash tbh that was a mindfk

[@TheLABound123]

+raiyzo “spades” jr Not gonna lie, I was kinda worried about that. But he was awesome. I think Gal was great too... and everyone wanted Gina Carano, which would have been a giant mistake. lol

[@CarlMarxPunk]

+raiyzo jr “spades” 100% agree.

[@ryanmullis07]

People should watch the movie for what it is, and not what they want it to be.

[@haot2041]

Damn right

[@shubhangbahadur7112]

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness

[@BatDimen]

On that deleted scene, Lex is learning from the ship's AI. It's just a "video" and is why it dissolves that way. The Cyborg clip was a real mother box and whereas what Lex was seeing dissolved sort of how a PowerPoint presentation would dissolve.

[@b_g_c3281]

Exactly

[@witchingroom]

+Bat Dimen haha kryptonian powerpoint. I want it.

[@CSThomas888]

+Bat Dimen Was looking for this.

[@jayblue1873]

Tru dat

[@theevermind]

+Bat Dimen I thought it was due to unfinished special effects.

[@DisappearingBoy2010]

The argument is so flawed. First of all, Pixels, Fantastic Four, and Gods of Egypt were NOT good movies. And BvS was good, not great. And I am not in the industry and I am not a fan boy. Second, no one ever said nor has it been proven that ratings and reviews always correlate to box office sales. Box office sales are driven by marketing more than anything. BvS has been hyped for years so of course in the opening weekend it was going to do well regardless of what critics said on Tuesday before. Also look at Shawshank Redemption. That movie bombed at the box office but was very highly rated and critically acclaimed. The thought that there is some conspiracy here to take down certain movies is ridiculous. What is more likely is that movies will perform on a curve where the middle of the curve is driven by marketing and then can perform + or - dollars off that curve based on fan review. In the case of BvS, it is going to continue to do well because there is a demand to see it. But just because there is demand, doesn't mean it's a good film.

[@joshsum]

Exactly

[@kateb5716]

+DisappearingBoy2010 very well articulated.

[@blackrazer22]

+DisappearingBoy2010 Do you think the movie will continue to do well in the weeks to come or will the issues with the movie catch up with it and a quick drop from #1?

[@krishnayalla676]

+DisappearingBoy2010 Completely agree. The fact that this movie is doing well at the box office is that it's an established brand, it has 2 of the most popular heroes of all time, and it has been hyped for years. This movie was going to make a ton of money regardless. Also people keep mistaking the RT score as the actual score of the movie on 1 to 10 scale. In reality the movie's average critic rating is a 5, and to be honest that is absolutely appropriate. The bad taste of this movie hurts not just DC but the entire superhero movie industry. I like Grace's reviews and she is usually very level headed about this stuff, but this seems so out of place on her part.

[@blackrazer22]

Krishna Yalla As an example, the prequel star wars films. Lots of money, but widely panned.

[@luiscampanella1325]

unprofessional fan boys critics and mcu stans taking DC down. this is unreal. BvS Stills better than the mcu ifself. bye

[@XAL]

ya ur rite man its all a conspiracy! .... :/

[@blazestrika]

+luik hernandes this is such damage control lol, "if the critics dont like bvs, then it is because they are mcu fanboys"

[@bellybuiscut]

+luik hernandes are u serious?

[@luiscampanella1325]

+AidanET™ Have you read some reviews.??? some of them doesn't even make sense. + let's don't even talk that TDK(best comic book movie)and X2 are still better than the mcu films. not saying that they are bad. tws was good my fave from the mcu but sorry I'm not on board with the mcu

[@ourlasthero51]

Are you seriously saying BvS is better than the entirety of the MCU? How does that not make you a total fanboy?

[@Mutantgamer]

I hope nobody is dense enough to believe that the studio made BvS "just for the fans". Do you realise how small the percentage of those fans are among overall moviegoers? If they only made the $250 mil movie for them they'll go completely bankrupt and its a fucking retarded decision anw. Just consider that BvS may actually be a bad movie. I didn't have to think very hard to understand the movie and it's still way too easy to spot all the poor decisions and writing in the film.

[@saxster]

Or consider the fact that art is never simple.

[@OptimusSledge]

"Today Beyond The Trailer host Grace Randolph gives a reaction and breakdown of the current Batman v Superman situation" Well, it's certainly a breakdown.

[@sabinea.4532]

+OptimusSledge oh god..lol...thats really good.

[@margustoo]

Grace, a lot of people hate Batman v Superman not because of the reasons that you gave.. ..but instead because storyline of Superman v Batman is just utterly shite. My 8 reasons, why I think this movie is sh*t: * They end fighting because they share mother's name?? what the f*ck * They have senate hearings not because Superman almost destroyed Metropolis but because there is very very small change that Superman was somehow involved in terrorist attack in middle of Africa?? * Lex Luthor Jr had a plan that was so intricate that it was 99% per cent based on pure luck and coincidences. Most of the movie Lex Luthor is trying to get Batman and Superman to fight, then creates a monster in a pool of brown toilet water for no good reason....How is it a great plan?? * Eisenberg is turning in his best impression of an unfunny Michael Cera as Lex Luthor. What the hell.. * Movie is mostly dream sequences and in the end you are just simply lost.. * People weren't invested enough in Superman and because of that Superman's Death was just wasted for this movie. * Doomsday who for some reason looked like Orc from Mordor?? * Utterly pointless storyline about Kryptonite-laced spear.

[@BeyondTheTrailer]

+Lord of mangoes Ahem: - Batman's mother, both his parents, haunt him to this day. Hearing her name out of nowhere of course stopped him and made him ask "Why did you say that name?!" - Superman saved Lois Lane from terrorists and then left without apprehending the terrorists, who then killed a number of civilians in the area for revenge. - Lex knew Bats and Supes' secret identities and manipulated them into battle, with Doomsday as a back-up which obviously he needed. - Tell me you don't know someone like that today? Eisenberg perfectly captured the "millennial" villain. - Dream sequences are clearly marked. - Superman had to die as karma for being so sloppy in MoS and BvS. - Why does anything in a comic book look like anything? He looked close enough.

[@samuelchoong2611]

+Lord of mangoes first point and I know ur a hater..... you seriously believe it's because of just the name? looking at that moment when superman gasp out the word Martha..... look at how batman reacts...... (its shows in the flashback to the first part of the film during that moment) he is reliving that moment when his dad last word was Martha, how confused he was and angry he was........... then Lois came in saying it's superman mother, that was when batman was really hit hard, batman was sure that today he is not going to let another Martha(a mom) die again (dialogue was pretty clear too)............ ben really sell that moment, its was 10/10 for ben when he play bruce and batman.

[@TheAngelinaSummer]

my thoughts exactly. the whole "you hated this because you're too used to marvel movies" is SUCH a cop-out! it simply wasn't a good film and I am a fan of both marvel and dc (and image, but who cares).

[@GamerGuyd7Aces]

+Beyond The Trailer Ok, not trying to be that guy.. but there's a lot of rebuttals to what you just said that me and the average moviegoer would say: -Why didn't Superman mention Martha's name from the get-go? Did we need to see an unnecessary 2 minute fight (which this whole movie was going on) before Supes drop that 1 word? Poor writing! -Superman only saving Lois just goes to show how CRAPPY of a superhero he is. You mean to tell me he's been Superman for 2 years (18 months) and he still doesn't even know how to save a bunch of civilians? Again, poor writing. He only cares about Lois Lane in this movie. Someone of his power/strength could easily subdue those terrorists, why doesn't he care? Captain America would make sure to dismantle the terrorists and save everyone. Hell, Iron Man would and he has in Iron Man 1! -How and When did Lex decipher their identities? and manipulating them into battle just seems like a huge plot convenience just to keep the story moving. - And Eisenberg perfectly capturing the milennial villain? I beg to differ. - There are 2 dream sequences here.. and they really don't make sense. The Flash one was random as hell, and the Knightmare sequence, while visually appealing, came out of nowhere. Bruce Wayne was just staring in the computer screen and then bam! The dream sequence began - If only we cared about Supes as much, his death would've been more impactful.

[@margustoo]

***** My last year's favorite movie is Room.. And I wouldn't call it a comedy. Also there is a difference between being funny and being utterly joyless (aka BvS)..

[@d.c.stranded7134]

I'm sorry Grace, I usually like to here your opinion on things but this video to me felt like a whole lot of wrong. Mainly for two things: 1) You fail to mention that one of the reasons people don't like it is because they genuinely think the movie wasn't well constructed, therefore not a good film. Hell, there are some critics who actually love seeing these characters portrayed in this tone but hate how the film is edited and scripted to the point they can't help but call it a bad film. 2) In terms of how this fan... critic... whatever-the-hell-it-is backlash may affect future film projects, "I don't buy it". I don't see how the backlash of this film, or any of the others you mentioned, will prevent Hollywood from trying out more experimental ideas. Again, sorry, but that's my viewpoint. 😧

[@johnstovall7503]

+D.C. Stranded (Mr. Wright) That was her first point.

[@d.c.stranded7134]

John Stovall what?

[@Gunnar001]

+Gaymer Gaymez At no point in that segment does she talk about how people don't like this film because it is poorly edited and the pacing is terrible. Seems to me that you need to work on your reading comprehension.

[@1D4ever]

+Gaymer Gaymez There is no hint at all that the movie was not good, if you don't love it you have an agenda, aliens took over your brain your mommy didn't give you a cookie when you were 5, you only like camp you hate DC, anything but that an intelligent viewer just watched this and were disappointed, that's impossible.

[@internetdinosaur8810]

EVERYONE HAS OPINIONS... For me the plot was great etc etc. Seriously.

[@LordMickeyM]

The logic in this video doesn't make sense. So the reason BvS has a low score is because critics and some of the general public are tired of Superhero movies, and yet, those same people gave Deadpool great reviews and a high score. Did you ever consider that BvS may be getting shit on because it is shit?

[@LocalMultiplex]

I hate how in your "analysis" you never admit that many people dislike the film for legitimate reasons. Y'know like improper pacing, loose structure, poor dialogue, bad characterization, and a borderline incoherent script?

[@ginsan8198]

You didn't consider the fifth and sixth possibilities: 5. The movie is actually bad 6. The movie is OK, but it was so hyped that a mere OK wasn't enough. Therefore, it falls to the category "unsatisfying", which a lot of people consider as "bad". Also, to add a perspective, I think that yes, for a movie like BvS, it is normal and acceptable for people to set a high standard and expectation, coz it is the kind of movie that SHOULD get past a high standard NORMALLY. That's why, it is reasonable that a mere OK is translated as just bad. Man of Steel was OK, but because of that very OK the movie became so unpleasant. The same thing happens with BvS in some sort of ways, therefore it is bad.

[@Nick_Rodriguez444]

It was probably a 5/10 for me. But this movie wasn't good nor was it great.

[@yasminegarcia2240]

Agreed

[@christian2747]

I thought it was amazing. 8/10 for me

[@collector832]

7/10 for me

[@Nick_Rodriguez444]

+Lupe Walker lol I'm just sharing my opinion not trying to ruin it for anyone

[@TonyAvalosGTA]

+Nick Rodriguez 9/10, this is my favorite Batman portrayal. In the Rated-R Director's Cut it will probably get to a 10/10 for me :D

[@ntkhoa2227]

How can anyone take this clip seriously if the person in it said she loved fant4stic, pixels and gods of egypt =))

[@declanoreilly891]

Ikr

[@ericscarface]

if at least half of her subscribers actually knew who stanley kubrick was, they would unsubscribe.

[@KnightAlbert]

I'm just so sick of people claiming someone doesn't like a movie because it's too serious, when it's actually because it's simply too messy and disorganic. Make a good serious movie and see what happens. Peace.

[@p1darthballz]

bottom line the movie was average in most parts. best part the batman v Superman part.

[@p1darthballz]

you don't have to defend this movie at all.

[@marvelaivan21]

best part was the batman warehouse scene

[@thepokekid01]

+Nick Owen I thought the best parts were the Batman rescuing Superman's Mom fight and the vs. Doomsday fight with Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman. I kind of feel like the actual Batman vs. Superman fight wasn't very creative and played too much like one would expect that it would. It's reasoning to have the fight in general was a little silly as well.

[@lakerstekkenn]

+Nick Owen what is average ?

[@gokaury]

+Aivan Briones Yes! I thought it felt exactly like the Arkham games. I've said it before, but Ben Affleck is an excellent Batman. and probably the best part of the whole movie.

[@johnb2119]

why are you attacking the critics and everyone else for not liking a movie if the movie sucks it sucks ands if someone doesn't like it they don't have to like it you sounds like you are making excuses for this movie if this wasn't a DC movie and the critics and people hated it no one would care the problem is DC fans has a problem with any criticism about their movie

[@troyterry3226]

Wow so the majority of us recognize that this movie isn't good and that is somehow a conspiracy.

[@saxster]

In fact, the majority of fans according to even Rotten Tomatoes, did enjoy the movie. Your hatred is transparent. It does not make you a winner for your tribe.

[@troyterry3226]

DoctorSax Yes I hate this movie, and so do many others. I wouldn't care if I was the only one who did since I seem to be in the Minority of people who hated DK rises. Lol what tribe?

[@swanpride]

+DoctorSax Most of the positive reviews which pushed the rating initially high were added from people who hadn't even seen the movie. Once everyone was able to chime in, the audience rating went constantly down. Currently it is, I think, at 69%, which is lower than even Man of Steel has.

[@b4chch4n]

I don't care what people say about BvS, I thought it was fantastic, can't wait to see it again.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@urdnotstark8270]

I mean batman killed someone with a gun, and modern batman movie, based off of MODERN batman comics, including a comic where he says while breaking a gun, "This is the weapon of the enemy. We do not NEED it. We will not USE it." shows me that the writers and Snyder just didn't give a damn. That why people are angry.

[@yusufleeevans]

The problem with the internet, is too many people rely on it. BvS was a pretty good movie, and the majority of people who didn't like it, already went their with preconceived notions thanks to those reviews, or their own prejudices. I understand there were some confusing moments, along with WTF moments as well. However, the actual story was pretty good. The problem with comic book movies, is people aren't used to a story being told; they're used to tons of action, comedy moments, and nothing really deep or complex about it. This movies was really deep, and very human in its approach and that's what threw a lot of people off from it. You go to a superhero movie, especially one involving Superman, and expect to see some sort of vibrant, American pie type character.

[@MinuteLeech2]

Box Office does not equal quality. Batman and Superman would rake in money no matter what

[@sodajerkclassic]

+Minlech_67 Exactly!

[@tydalwave7328]

Grace, there's a fifth reason. The movie is a jumbled mess. Even lots of people who liked it will admit that. There are dropped plot lines, pointless plot lines (looking at you, Lois Lane) and a performance by Jesse Eisenberg that is very off putting for a lot of people. Just because people don't like a movie that you like doesn't make them bias.

[@emb3863]

Exactly what i was thinking

[@a.g.g902]

Sometimes a bad film is simply a bad film. Granted a lot of work went into it, it just didn't translate well and I put that down to the jumbled script. Goyer first, Terrio stepped in and revised but it seems too much was missed in plot and too much was thrown in to expand on a universe just starting. They need to keep it simple, tell a stand alone story without grasping at potential storylines years down the track.

[@Samconery]

Listen listen. Look at the logic. All critics who will be atleast 30 million all over the world are marvel supporters. Yeah give this lady a pat in the back for her amazing brain!

[@fittzie]

in response to your points. 1. Nobody is asking for a Marvel movie. What we would like is characters with depth, that aren't brooding for the sake of being brooding, that represent their source material well with fleshed out plot points and characters. A coherent and consistent movie would be nice 2. No, Deadpool did stellar. 3. Watch regular peoples reviews.. Some of the reasons the movie is getting mostly meh reviews (remember the 29% just means only 29% of people gave it a score of 6/10 or higher. It's average score was 5/10 which is a rotten score) is the following: Because neither character was actually the character they were suppose to portray. None of the scenes in the first act connected to each other. There were scenes that survived no purpose other than to setup sequels (Spider-man amazing 2 syndrome) The Martha thing is ridiculous. Supermans death was way too soon and completely pointless Lex Luther was an entirely unfleshed out Batman kills people Superman kills people Neither hero acted heroic for majority of the movie More heavy handed Jesus imagery Wonder wonder and lex luther could have been cut from this film with little impact to the plot The editing was choppy, the progression of scenes made little sense, especially with how some of the dream scenes were cut in. Ect.

[@JA070288]

Absolutely dude! Nail on the head. This may seem weird but I was kinda sad in the theatre that Superman didn't feel like Superman at all. For me Superman felt right in the Animated Series version (including Justice League) but yes I do have some comics of Superman's too.

[@TheHappychondriac]

+Fitzgerald Callender You said it perfectly.

[@heyedddie]

Rottentomatoes: Batman v Superman: 29% (Audience: 71%) Sharknado: 82% (Audience 33%) IMDB: Batman v Superman: 7.4 Sharknado 3.3 ...puts things in perspective. I stopped caring about sites like RT a long time ago.

[@dannydarville1344]

Only 15 critics bothered to review sharknado...so that argument has been proven busted....

[@heyedddie]

+Danny Darville you're right the number is too low for a fair comparison in this case. Still... too many movies that not just me but my friends as well enjoyed watching many times got bad or average ratings on RT so I just go with my gut these days. I also enjoyed BvS for the most part and might even go watch it again.

[@demi7913]

Rotten Tomatoes' scoring system sucks. The movie is on a 30% rating despite the average score being 5.1/10. It should be 51% rating. That 30% just means 30% of critics who watched the movie liked it...which is a bullshit rating system. Here's why - If you say a 7/10 rating counts as "liking" a film and 100% of critics give it that rating, then the movie will be rated 100% on RT despite it only being a 70% movie. Do you get what I'm saying? Thats why Zootopia is a 99% right now, despite the fact that the average score is 8/10. The rating system either inflates the scores or makes it seem worse than it is. A lot of people say they would give the movie a 5/10....well thats what it currently actually is on Rotten Tomatoes. Go on it now, the average score is 5/10. It should be rated 50% then, not 30%. RT should change this because it really is quite a terrible rating system. The rating should be the average rating from critics to give a much more accurate depiction of how good or bad the movie is

[@jadeprincepk]

Zootopia is 99% because of the story it tells which deals with racism, discrimination and stereotypes. If you read the audience reviews, you would see that some disliked the heavy subjects it had and did not have a lot of jokes and other normal cartoon content.

[@demi7913]

Prince Windsor That's not the point I'm making. The 99% means 99% of critics liked the movie - it doesn't mean the average score is 9.9/10. Which is misleading. It's inflating the actual average score, which is 80%. Because of RTs bullshit rating system, the movie has a 19% higher rating than it should. And Batman v. Superman has a 20% lower rating than it should

[@havoc827]

I like how she said that she wasn't going to impose her opinion on the movie but this whole video is her opinion. First off, I didn't like the movie cause it was a huge mess. There were a bunch of things I did like in it, but it wasn't drawn out in a cohesive way. We kept jumping from scene to scene and it didn't flow well together. And that combined with the enormous amount of stories and character motivation that didn't seem to make sense really didn't help the movie. Plus I absolutely hated how batman contacts wonder woman and reveals all the justice league cameos through one email. Literally every single cameo. It was lazy writing and didn't even belong there. They could have done so much better and if they made it more focused and less jam packed then it could have been a good movie.

[@noogeyroadrocks8062]

I can't believe Twilight got more metascore than BvS. That oughta tell you something about critics

[@joserangel7346]

That said all about critics....

[@joserangel7346]

mr.mzr yeah sure...ok. (facepalm)

[@noogeyroadrocks8062]

it's still "dawn", right?

[@ajd9858]

box office doesn't mean jack shit. box office didn't match RT score for the transformers and the twilight series as well. I'm not a fucking critic, i paid money to go watch it and this movie has so many obvious problems which i do not need to repeat .some good visuals and well shot action sequences cannot redeem this movie.BATMAN and SUPERMAN(with SPIDERMAN being a close third) are without an argument the two biggest/most well known superheroes in the world. So it's not a mystery that this movie is making money, and of course everyone is going to watch this movie, not just comic book nerds. It's such a big property !

[@ZebsAlleyOriginalMusic]

Also I've noticed that it's the so called Fanboys that defend a lot of the Bullcrap in this movie, she argued that Fanboys feel they have power so they hate on Batman v Superman, Which really doesn't make too much sense, money speaks louder, and it was the Box office flops that caused Pixels and Fant4stic to not get a sequel, Not critical outcry, she debunked her own point, Transformers always get shitty reviews but they always make money, It's about the money labowske, so yeah they will make another one and nobody is self diluted enough to actually believe that reviews matter more than money.

[@ajd9858]

Zebronel touché... very well said... she didn't make any sense whatsoever

[@planetram]

I find this hate very upsetting. "Batman v Superman" is the 2nd best superhero film ever released, topped only by "The Dark Knight" in my opinion. How does the world not see what I see? What you see? What should be seen? The opening weekend numbers put a smile on my face. I just hope next week's drop off isn't horrific.

[@dianacarson7457]

+Ramster I'm afraid it will be

[@planetram]

+Marcus Luera You don't have to or you don't want to? Of course you're allowed a different opinion but I have every right to question your opinion as well. People question the film. I question the people. People question me. It's how these things work.

[@planetram]

Almost every thought I have is on display on my channel. If you really want, you can hear them for yourself. I respect you challenging me but I'm tired of constantly defending this film in comment sections. Lonely too.

[@planetram]

We both want to defend lol. Our opposing cities would be so peaceful.

[@dianacarson7457]

BVS will drop alot in the second weekend

[@lucristianx]

What perplexes me about Batman v. Superman is that I am a Frank Miller fan. And I religiously read his comic even Batman & Robin All Stars. So I saw that Batman and I liked it. It was essentially a highlight reel of DC lore and I didn't mind it. If you gave it a 7/10 I agree. I'm more of an 8/10 on this movie. But it shouldn't be a 33% metacritic score. I think if you're a sympathetic Marvel viewer or even a fan of it, this movie is not for you. It is humorless storytelling in DC and that's why a lot of us didn't mind. I can see critics who are into cinematography not liking. But I can't see any fan say this isn't true to the comic.

[@PowerPackers90]

I just love how she ignored that maybe BvS made a ton of cash because it was the first BATMAN SUPERMAN CROSSOVER MOVIE. Well no duh with that branding it would make a lot money! That doesn't mean it was a well liked movie. Batman and Robin, 1998 Godzilla, and Star Wars Episode 1 were the highest grossing movies the year they came out too. Did critics screw them over too? What does she mean it's like most comics too? Amazing Spider-man is still lighthearted and funny, Ironman comics arenot dark, and Batgirl is like an abc family sitcom.

[@leteflondondu92]

batman & robin bombed at box office and killed the franchise.

[@slmndw]

The movie was a solid 8.5/10; it was well written, well directed, and well acted with plenty of interesting reveals and character moments. I wonder how many people truly hated the film and how many people are just groupthinkers joining the hate train. Ultimately, it's frustrating that people make it their personal mission to ruin the success of a film that they have no interest in because it poses a competition to their favorite studio. 😡

[@gamesandstuffs]

went for a second viewing yesterday and people clapped at the end. this movie is getting fucked over by people who want the marvel formula and that is pathetic imagine the records it would have broken if not for the unfair reviews

[@beauwilliams3309]

Exactly

[@beauwilliams3309]

+Taz Boone couldnt agree more the movie only had a few problems which i believe were due to editing but in the ultimate edition the extra 30 mins of footage will change everyone's views i loved this film and critics just suck up marvels ass every marvel movie is the same theres always a damsel in distress yet they complain about lois being one in this movie and this movie wasnt a predictable formula at least

[@beauwilliams3309]

+Plaguesque although i enjoyed deadpool i can agree it did have the formula of having a love interest and saving the girl i actually thought she would die because now in the sequels we still wont get our solo deadpool we love from the comics

[@csolloway2011]

+Zani Castle I agree with you, That Marvel doesn't always make great movies. Iron man 3, the First Captain America Movie, and Both Thor Movies were all sub par not to mention the original Hulk. Also, I would say that Fox doesn't make Marvel type movies (even if they are using marvel characters) and Some of them are very good (X-Men 1, X-Men 2, X-Men days of Future past, and Dead Pool) Also Sony made some good spider man movies (with Sam Rami's Spiderman 1 and 2). On The DC side there is the Dark Knight Trilogy (which the middle one being the strongest movie but they are at lest good) As well as the First Tim Burtan Bat-Man Movie. That being said there are all types of good ways to make a good superhero movie. I would even go as far as to say the T.V. Shows like Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, Gotham, Heroes, Daredevil, and Jessica Jones. All have amazing stories that are all very different but all super hero stories that work. DC is also my favorite and the one that I personally wish I could fight for in this fight for movie supremacy but they are going to have to make much better Superhero movies if they wish to accomplish this.

[@Oxmustube]

+gamesandstuffs The box office dropping day after day has nothing to do with reviews, but with bad word of mouth. 81 mil on the first day, 50 on the 2nd and 12 on the 5th should tell you all you need to know on how people, not critics, feel about the movie.

[@pigdangojones6315]

Regarding Disney's supposed great relationship with the press: Lone Ranger got a 31%, Pirates 4 got a 32%, Need for Speed got a 22%. Regarding the press hating Warner Bros, Midnight Special is at 87%, Creed got a 94%, and Mad Max got a 97%. Perhaps there was a bit of a disconnect. Perhaps the movie was a 40-50% range movie instead of a 29-30% movie. But I think it's unprofessional to call out your fellow film critics and question their integrity and motives. WB's best course of action is to make a better movie.

[@nslater1388]

Okay Grace, there's a bit of a gap in your logic here. You're saying the negative reviews were trying to destroy the movie, but the Friday box office numbers flew in the face of that. This tells us that, for the most part, PEOPLE DON'T CARE ABOUT REVIEWS! This means that the drop in box office returns was due to word of mouth, friend to friend. It wasn't the critics or fanboys that led to this movie's lackluster performance, it was the lackluster quality of the film itself.

[@BardicLiving]

Good point.

[@akuryu23]

Lets go over a few of these biased critics... Nobody championed Man of Steel more than John Campea. He calls it a masterpiece. He hyped Batman v Superman endlessly on his podcast and movie talk show. He was disappointed by the film, and is on twitter calling for Zack Synder to step away from Justice League. Angry Joe is a massive Superman fan. For the last 7 years he has worn a Superman shirt in every video he made. He defended Man of Steel every chance he could, even taking on the Nostalgia Critic over the movie. He too was disappointed by BvS. You can tell he's heart-broken in his review. Kevin Smith, in addition to being a filmmaker himself, has worked for DC comics. He hosts a massively popular Batman podcast. He is personal friends with Ben Affleck. Despite all this, he was also disappointed in BvS. He calls it heartless and dour. He said he felt relief when he read the critics tearing the movie apart, because he worried it would just be him that didn't like it. Chris Stuckmann, Mark Ellis, Jeremy Jahns, Screenjunkies, Schmoes, Collider crew... list goes on. Real fans that wanted to love the movie, but were let down. So maybe it's not a grand conspiracy. Maybe, just maybe, the movie didn't deliver.

[@Kurong23]

+Akuryu great examples, grace is delusional

[@WitchHunter93]

I went into BvS ready to hate it and make fun of it due to all the criticism it got and its incredibly low ratings. Surprise surprise, I really enjoyed it. It definitely had its problems, and it's easy to get confused especially if you don't read comics, but it's definitely a huge improvement from Man of Steel, which I was a movie that I didn't think was very good. All 3 heroes; Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman, were wonderfully cast and wonderfully executed. I could definitely see the Justice League in them. Ben Affleck's Batman is probably my favorite Batman on the big screen. I feel like there's so much to him that they must be setting up a prequel that expands on how he became so cruel, as even the promo comics explain that he wasn't always like this. Wonder Woman was just epic. The greatest fighter in the DC universe really showed her stuff and made me very excited for the WW movie coming out next year. And let's not forget the actual Batman vs Superman fight. Batman may have won, but they gave Superman all the justice he needed in that fight, throwing Batman around effortlessly like a rag doll and making it clear that Batman would've been destroyed if Supes wasn't so merciful, a trait that Batman adopted by the end. I thought the fight was handled perfectly.

[@antilles58]

I think the second weekend box office is more telling. People were going to see this movie the first weekend no matter what. But with such a large percentage of the audience falling off, that's what really tells you how people felt about the film.

[@loverzxlane]

Wish everyone would stop being so judgemental n learn how 2 enjoy a movie. rotten tomatos is trash anyway

[@loverzxlane]

+Fumontaindew2012 really cuz last time i remember that was an opinion smart one and doesn't mean its not trash cuz it still is

[@BohemianScandalous]

"They don't know what's happening in current comics" yes, because the two biggest story influences for Batman V Superman are three decades old at this point..... That makes so much sense.

[@BohemianScandalous]

Also this whole thing sounds like a really weird conspiracy theory. And remember, Grace, you are the press as well. You may not get flown to Dubai but a lot of other reviewers don't even get press kits and they are still trusted by their readers/watchers and a lot of people, like myself don't even watch entertainment news (especially not on TV.) Media is way more different than it used to be. You'd figure you'd understand this after being on KZbin for so long. But who knows, maybe you're feeling just as victimized as the """press""" because that Deadpool petition you made failed.

[@BohemianScandalous]

+Marcus Luera I'll admit, not my strongest point. But she seems to be coming from a purely emotional view that she's somehow being attacked and put upon. It's not that much of a stretch to think about the Deadpool thing because it was such a highly publicized failure.

[@yusufleeevans]

The problem, is that the vast majority of people who saw this movie are not DC Comics fans. They tend to be the casual moviegoer, or folks who grew up watching these heroes on TV and were shocked by what they saw. That, and they're so used to the upbeat and not as dark tone of the Avengers and X-Men. As a DC fan, I love the movie, and can't wait till Suicide Squad is released. I'm hoping that film will excite audience members into appreciating the DC Universe more.

[@jrm48220]

+Yusuf Evans Not having a thorough familiarity of DC comics is not the problem. I really like the movie and I can count on two hands the number of issues of DC comics that I've read. Most of my fandom for Batman came from the 1990s animated series and the Michael Keaton/Tim Burton version.

[@matthewlane]

+Yusuf Evans No, I'm sorry people hated this movie because this movie was shit. You can make an excuses you like, so far we've had people blaming casuals, some blaming fanboys, others blaming critics. Fact is that most people disliked this movie, they thought it was a shitty movie, because it is. No amount of not being, or being a fan is going to change that fact.It's writing is bad, it's cinematography is bad, it's musical score is bad, it's thematic direction is bad, it's actor selection was bad, it's complete lack of a plot is bad.

[@aimannorzahariwod]

... holy shit, she just compared Snyder to Kubrick... i've heard everything now ayyy

[@lukej7758]

She makes a 20 minute video trying to prove that everything is a conspiracy rigged against DC and BVS is actually a fantastic movie...... Or maybe it just wasn't very good? It's like watching someone trying to live in denial that they have an addiction

[@PowerIsReal]

So your proposition is that the most critics are rating the movie poorly to get a psychological reward from the movie being considered bad and that they are not completing the normal analysis they would/should normally make for a film? Would be interesting to see what they all thought of that argument. There are over 200 critics on RT for this and it seems unlikely that they are all colluding in a conspiracy.

[@iamPrime]

No reviewers talked about the starting credit scene that scene was beautiful.

[@deleteduser121]

I understand you like the movie but to compare it to "The Shining" is just bit to much

[@rohankolasani2011]

Ikr

[@WorldwideWyatt]

She's an idiot. The Shining is one of the greatest movies of all time.

[@deleteduser121]

+Worldwide Wyatt yea I went and saw it not on the level of the shining for sure

[@WorldwideWyatt]

ryler05 not even on the level of the Shining TV mini-series.

[@rook937]

Actually, the press didnt like the shinning when that came out either.

[@weyesfox8526]

She isnt even one sided, she admits the movie has its flaws but its still a good movie. All you BvS haters are proving that her theory is right.

[@mousekill82]

She's been fired from Marvel, praises everything DC does while constantly nitpicking everything that marvel does. Go through her Kate's trailer vids and come up with the conclusion on your own, but one sided is definitely the phrase id use when talking about Grace

[@redluciee3189]

You make it sound like some organised conspiracy; this movie was always going to open big. Alot of the other movies you mentioned didn't open worldwide. It’s a big movie that isn’t very good. There is legitimate criticism about poor structure, character development and so much more. It apparently has one of the biggest drops on Sunday of all time. I do agree with some of your points, but you talk about influence the press WB has given you yourself 2 mystery boxes ( even if you didn't open it before your review ). I think you are just trying to justify your overly positive review

[@BeyondTheTrailer]

+Red Luciee Sunday was Easter. And to think that WB could "buy" a good review from me with a cardboard box full of toys? I think my integrity costs a bit more than that, hmm? Plus they did NOT invite me to an early press screening, luckily Dolby invited me, but you don't see me holding that against WB, do you?

[@redluciee3189]

But clearly Dolby are slipping you a few bucks

[@redluciee3189]

It's your work, I don't actually hold that against you really

[@BeyondTheTrailer]

+Red Luciee Nobody paid me anything, and to suggest that they did is absolutely ludicrous. If that's you're best argument to discredit me, you've got nothin'.

[@christian2747]

+Beyond The Trailer Grace don't play attention to this troll, she's just pressed that BvS is doing amazingly at the box office.

[@UnderEmir]

Yes this movie wasn't perfect but it was better Age of Ultron or Iron Man 3

[@TheBabullah]

or Thor 2 or or Iroman 2 and I would say antman but he doesn't even fit in a drama his movie felt like a romantic comedy

[@Skyswindler]

+TheBabullah but those movies have jokes so they get a free pass. Nobody is allowed to analyse those movies, especially the villains.

[@christopherceasar5353]

no im3 was good im2 and both hulk movies suck

[@christopherceasar5353]

+Starfire media -chris i meant thor

[@TheBabullah]

+Skyswindler ofcourse 100% the villians are ALL amazing how can we forget such classic characters

[@theespressokid1]

The denial is strong with this one.

[@rubenquiros4859]

Right! She can't believe people don't share her opinion

[@OrganizedChaos14]

Isn't it possible it's just a bad movie. You're allowed to like. But are you going to look at the crap editing, poorly developed characters, and jumbled comic book arcs and genuinely try to say this is like a Kubrick comic book movie? Really? It's not a conspiracy. I really wanted to love this movie, but it sucked.

[@brucesnow7125]

It is impossible, how can this movie be bad? You just didn't understand the mega-super-duper-deep meaning of the film that nobody understood, but it's there somewhere. It is DC movie right? So there must be smth and also Snyder who made Watchmen made this movie. Even though it was almost totally scene-to-scene adaptation and all of it's deepest themes were Moore's ideas, but that doesn't change anything. One more even though - Snyder never had anything deep in his movies, but it doesn't change anything, because he made Watchmen, which had "doesn't change anything" stuff too, so it has to mean something. And also, it is super comic book accurate movie, which was combination of two brilliant comic book stories and some other too - TDKR and Death Of Superman and some other too. Em, eh, even though the first one gets only visual references, while second one was just an mixed up ending. Also that kind of combinations usually result in total mess, but it isn't fact. You just didn't get it. There was no bad direction, total mess, no character development, crappy dialogues, incoherence and other stuff, because all of it was intentional, even though it makes no goddamn sense, but that doesn't mean anything, because it's DC and it is Snyder. So conspiracy is totally a fact, even...em, ok, whatever

[@coolkidchometa1520]

She- that- she made that her first point. Idiot.

[@kalblaylo1149]

I really liked this movie like a whole lot I don't understand the hate

[@LambertxMc]

+Kal Blaylo they are used to Marvel's standards

[@gamiensrule]

+Kal Blaylo "People hate what they don't understand..." - Martha Kent

[@rook937]

It's okay.....Warner bros doesn't owe those critics a thing.

[@andrew97471]

+Rxcketeer Ummm no, people don't like it because the script is a utter mess, there's no character development & motivations aren't clear, and it's just a overstuffed mess overall that wants to be two movies at once, a sequel to Man of Steel, and a origin type film for Justice League. WB and Zack Snyder deserve the hate, they were lazy and tried to catch up to Marvel in one movie.

[@obadboy]

+Andrew Stover so Tru. if the had a great superman on screen and conflicting ideals. this movie would have worked. but when batman kills people and superman kills people. where is the moral dilemma?! its the reason I loved daredevil s2 so much. the punisher views vs Daredevil's made their conflict feel real and earned.

[@tamurkhan2326]

there is no way this movie deserves 29%. The lowest it is in my opinion is 55-60. It was a good movie imo I enjoyed it.

[@4cidFl4sh]

I'm glad you mentioned appreciating the effort, it's clear that they didn't half-ass the movie. They didn't play it safe and took an artistic leap of faith, and for some viewers it paid off, but for others it didn't, however that doesn't mean it deserves the vitriol it is receiving.

[@bigblues5251]

Say it with me "I am in denial and making excuses for a half ass product. I am actually blaming the customer for asking for a better movie"

[@juannunez5767]

So...we aren't even going to consider that it's just a bad movie? Maybe it's possible for a Hollywood studio to produce a film that is subpar in multiple ways, and audience don't want to see? You know, X-Men 3, Spiderman 3, Batman & Robin, All Fantastic Four movies, Elektra, etc. No, I guess that's impossible. Hear me now, quote me later. This movie is not going to make it to $800 million, and it won't be because million of people across the world decided to twirl their mustaches and get that bright eyed DC comics.

[@andrew97471]

I agree, DC fanboys think there's a conspiracy, but maybe it's just a bad movie with it's convoluted plot, no character development or motivations, and narrative & pacing issues.

[@ourlasthero51]

I don't dislike this film because it wasn't what I wanted (technically I do because I wanted a good movie), I dislike it because I legitimately think it's bad. To me, there was a lot of potential wasted and I believe this could have been done a lot better. I say this as a fan of the comics and someone who knows the comics. It's NOT because of the tone or because it wasn't like Marvel movies, I've been seeing that excuse a lot and I'm sick of it already.

[@coss1]

Exactly how I feel.

[@Killm33]

BvS, an 81% drop from Friday-to-Friday, one of the biggest ever from a blockbuster

[@countzero7]

+mali mall movie doesn't have any competition this week, and still have biggest drop, but it's all just big conspiracy lol

[@AhsanBD]

stop spreading lies. 69%

[@ShreyasBanerjee]

+Ahsan Ahmed Friday to Friday was 81% The weekend drop was 69% (which still isn't good)

[@rocketpunchgo1]

Another "nerds were able to move Hollywood hands" and "reviewers are paid by Disney" conspiracy theory.

[@tomascanevaro4292]

+smokebomb.exe this chick is the biggest imbecile in KZbin

[@speedycerviche3653]

She literally thinks the move was 100% good with nothing wrong with it

[@USpatriot741776]

+Johnny Sparks Strawman

[@hbergfeld1]

No she didnt did u even watch the video

[@1DrunkSocialite]

You didn't watch the whole thing did you....? 14:31

[@jorgiebutt]

False. Where did you hear that?

[@NeoMKG]

Grace, don't listen to all these mean comments, you worked really hard on this video and said things that need to be said and many people just can't handle that.

[@shivtej121]

Wow! Really trying to defend the poor reviews! Let me tell u this, 1.The general movie audience don't care what age of comics the film is based on. They care if it's a good one or a bad one. Period. 2. WB knows it made a bad movie, that's why they didn't let any press screenings before hand. When you make a bad movie, you do fear of bad reviews don't you. :) P.S: yea the public have spoken and movie dropped significantly later on in the 2nd and 3rd weekends. The Boss managed to push it to the 2nd spot. Man that speaks a million words. It won't even cross $ 900 M I guess now

[@RuckusMann]

This has to be some sort of spin control tactic. Critics don't have the kind of numbers to pull off some comic film paradigm shift. Maybe the real reason is the 2nd thing she mentioned, people are unfamiliar with this particular story arc they are choosing to portray. DC Comics spent 75 - 80 years developing their characters and getting their characters known. So most people who don't even care to read comic books, have a general sense of what kind of persons Batman and Superman are, so when they go the theater, they have one concept in their mind, and then this film flies in the face of that. For example when Batman is just straight up murdering everyone in his path, the first thing that goes through people's mind is..."But I thought Batman doesn't kill, that's his one rule" and then they see this? You've already turned off and alienated the viewer. Sticking with Batman, if you are a Dark Knight fan, as I am, we use many words to describe him. One word that will not be anyone's list however is "gullible" an this Batman was GULLIBLE like nobody's business!! Lastly if you're going to portray a story arc, how about just sticking to that story, not throwing a bunch of story lines together and hopefully it sticks, clearly WB/DC realizes they are confusing people who saw the film, that's why they released that bonus clip. It's doing the complete opposite and confusing people even more however.

[@Killm33]

BvS being a bad movie has NOTHING to do with Marvel but everything to do with WB/DC and Zack Snyder. And, the worldwide gross of movies can be misleading because some international markets can open at the same time, later or even earlier than U.S. does. BvS had markets overseas open earlier than usual because of the buzz and hype over the film.

[@Killm33]

+mali mall Batman v Superman made Hans Zimmer quit the super hero business

[@hilyfe01]

I think some of you guys feel threatened by the fact that she's making logical sense and she's a woman let's be real.

[@alekkacosmos9807]

+hilyfe01 So you're dismissing someone else's opinion because you think they're dismissing her because she's a woman? Aren't you doing the same thing?

[@mustaine8666]

+Alekka Cosmos I think he's trying to get across that comic books and video games are still perceived as "boy territory" and some "fanboys" get extremely butthurt when a lady puts forward an opinion that doesn't match with theirs. Albeit, conveyed very well.

[@Aythion]

+hilyfe01 This video never analyzes why the critics gave the reviews they did by examining the content of most reviews. If she had, then she would find that many reviews were mixed and for good reason. Her explanation for why the critics gave the reviews they did was almost a conspiracy theory. This theory never brought up any of the arguments given by people who gave the movie negative reviews, so all that is left is what she personally feels is the reason for the bad results of this movie. Even though she said she would leave her personal opinion out. That is mostly why I disagree with her on this and anyone who would share this argument regardless of gender.

[@seanharris3126]

She does have a point. Her argument is proving all over the Internet. Even in these comments.

[@gamesandstuffs]

Exactly, and they are so ignorant to everything that they don't even realise it.

[@codemonkeybrains]

It's finally happened: Grace has resorted to conspiracy theory to explain why most critics don't agree with her. She compared Snyder to Kubrick. And once again attempts to convince us that if a movie makes a lot of money it must be good (last time I saw, it was Fifty Shades of Grey she said that about). Oh well. I just can't help wonder what her IQ is.

[@tf68charger]

grace denial isn't really that good of an idea to use for this movie

[@af7132]

Action was 5/5 Plot was 2/5 5+2 = 7 7/10

[@roostuidos]

Action should not decide if a film is good. If so, Michael Bay would be the greatest filmmaker of all time.

[@adaojr]

+Ades Fish I would actually give plot 3/5, maybe even 3.5/5. It is the editing that damaged it, in my view. After all, almost half an hour of the movie were cut at the last minute... Will have to see that final 3h version to be sure.

[@commandercorner5575]

I don't know why I ever bother to click on these videos. You never know what you're talking about.

[@ritaroy1990]

+CommanderCorner Hate watching has a certain inscrutable appeal. Grace is by far the worst critic on KZbin!. If she likes a movie, I know it's going to be awful; if she doesn't like it, I know it's either fun or a potential classic. I mean she liked 50 Shades of Grey and disliked Inside Out. I have no idea why she has so many subscribers.

[@Hellismary]

I think a lot of the bias towards the film comes from critics not liking Zack Snyder. Tons of reviews I read literally went out of there way to blame him for everything, and it isn't fair to the film or him.

[@ourlasthero51]

Well he is the director.

[@tysonescobarmarioescobar6002]

best video in the internet about what really is happening

[@BeyondTheTrailer]

+Tysonescobar Marioescobar Thank u! That means a lot! It was a tricky situation to outline!

[@Deadpool-ow5jv]

+Beyond The Trailer Definitely, critics are abusing their power in all the wrong ways for this one.

[@joshuabrujis2930]

+Beyond The trailer Grace, I would recommend to look out for the reception to civil war amount fans, who could say that the film is not dark enough for the subject matter, like what happened with Ultron vs Daredevil Season one.If the critics like civil war a lot and with fan black lash over the lack a serious, then there will be a civil war among fans and critics, which the fans would win because at the end of the day, the fans give the studio money

[@shawnandrew4714]

+Beyond The Trailer In my opinion i don't give a crap about rotten tomatoes I'm gana love BVS but if they change justice Leage over this I'll be mad and love your vids

[@keironaddison2461]

+Beyond The Trailer not to be mean and I love your videos but. I think this was a shit movie

[@atlg8or6137]

The Marvel Netflix shows (Daredevil/Jessica Jones) hit a dark, adult tone perfectly. BVS didn't.

[@IncredibleLyrics]

+atlg8or6137 they dont have 300 critic's

[@sakuragi1062]

just your opinion

[@wnepper]

+Callum Traynor Sure they do. Television critics are real. They're just not all corralled at Rotten Tomatoes. And most love Daredevil because it's quality entertainment -- strong characters, writing, acting and fight choreography. GREAT fight choreography. And isn't that what the people who liked Man of Steel wanted from a new Superman? MORE PUNCHING!

[@atlg8or6137]

+Christoper Bacani No shit, Sherlock

[@atlg8or6137]

+Callum Trainer Rotten Tomatoes also gathers critic's reviews of TV shows. Season 2 of Daredevil is at 74%. Jessica Jones is at 93%.

[@jackjohnson9990]

There is something to be said about legitimate criticisms from "hardcore" fans and online movie reviewers. Just because they didn't like the movie as a whole for very specific reasons doesn't mean you get to automatically dismiss their concerns as only "opinion". The notion that you can buy movie licenses for fictional characters that have been around for decades, change dramatic qualities about them then expect everyone to just go along with it, is absurd. If the director | studio want to do something "different" create your own characters from scratch and tell a brand new story.

[@TheNeverFrownClown]

"press shouldn't have alterior motives" Wait wait WAIT. ...you mean the press should be unbiased and objective as possible in an effort to better inform the people!?! ...you're talking crazy talk lady! :P All joking aside, thank you for saying that. It's a shame when people have to be reminded of what the original point of their job was

[@gloriousleader3203]

I'm sorry, but that first point is very wrong. everyone loved Chris Nolan's dark and gritty batman movies, EVERYONE. The backlash has nothing to do with it being too dark and gritty, Nolan proved dark and gritty can be amazing. the backlash comes from the fact that this was a poorly paced, terribly edited movie, with a HORRID score that never slows down (in a bad way) that could have been amazing. ben affleck, henry cavill and gal gadot were all great, but everything around them was crap. This just showed all the viewers how good this movie could have been, had zach snyder not been directing. Which makes people hate it even more.

[@marekbarycz4397]

+glorious leader Don't bother with people who are defending Fantastic 4 reboot. If even absolute fanboys telling that this was not a good movie there is some problem. This gal is hell bend to pleasing major players in movie industry.

[@frehleyisgod]

+glorious leader Wrong...how dare you speak for me since I am part of "EVERYONE" as you said...I liked Batman Begins but The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises were hackjobs...much like most of Nolan's work... Also learn how to spell/capitalize people's names...it's disrespectful to spell/not capitalize their names wrong...

[@4getfulness16]

+frehleyisgod Dark Knight a hackjob? k.....

[@itsdoublem1]

LOL! Uhhh...no. I HATED all of them. I mean ALL of them.

[@r2rx2fer]

I agree... if they say bat v sup is bad, then put the new starwars as the worst.

[@winbrendan]

+Arthur Christopher Sienes Holy crap we are on the same page- see my comments above Arthur

[@jabbrewoki]

Here's the thing about them wanting people to see more movies in general not just super hero block busters..... lower the ticket prices, especially for smaller films. Supply and demand. Create more demand by increasing the value by lowering the costs.

[@jodysteiner4786]

I think the main reason people have a problem with this Superman franchise is the dark theme. Man of Steel is a cold, unfeeling character. He doesn't offer hope for a better tomorrow and he doesn't inspire us to do good. This is a very nihilistic world. BvS didn't suck, but it is very convoluted and confusing.

[@jericho7173]

So I've been a batman fan for 20 years, and I've collected a large number of Superman, Batman, and JL books for years. I defended Man of Steel for the past 3 years. But because I complain about BVS, now all of a sudden I'm either a Marvel fanboy or not a real fan and I shouldn't let my criticism be heard in hopes they will change the next movie so that I might actually like it? Criticism is supposed to help better yourself.

[@ericstaples7220]

I guess you forgot critics loved Deadpool recently, so much for your too many superhero movies theory.

[@acido44]

Deadpool is a completely unique concept tho, it actually benefits of the genre fatigue by making jokes about it.

[@ericstaples7220]

acido44 So did Guardians of the Galaxy and Kick Ass.

[@acido44]

+Eric Staples GOTG isn't R rated and it's not as irreverent, and Kickass is not exactly a superhero blockbuster. Also none of those movies break the 4th wall in the way Deadpool does.

[@cqtaylor]

+Eric Staples Deadpool gets excessive fawning from the critics all the time. So you're argument has not weight.

[@ericstaples7220]

acido44 What does rated R have to do with it? Lots of comic book movies have been rated R: Punisher, Blade, Ghost Rider, Kick Ass, Kingsman, Watchmen, ect. Deadpool is popular, because it's a good movie. Period. Critics like good movies that aren't from Marvel Studios, like Deadpool and Days of Future Past. Grace and people like you defending her have real mental problems.

[@MattBentonVlogs]

Batman v Superman is the best superhero movie I have ever watched!

[@eduards_mellups]

+MBVlogs Really?

[@Theynotlikeus82]

+pionicor I liked it a lot too

[@stolas2393]

I came here from ComicBookCast video.. :)

[@webheadgabe1177]

Same XD

[@JamesTheDominator]

Also critics don't even like each other let alone conspire together

[@shoutenry]

+JamesMitchell451 They do karma train and try to outdo each other though. Writing a good thoughtful review is both difficult and doesn't net you much press. Writing abject vitriol gets you a money making anti-fan base.

[@scottcfulton]

why not instead of giving the press cocktails and expensive trips, they just make a good movie.... sounds logical, yes?

[@johnstovall7503]

+Something Deadpool Didn't work here.

[@masterdomi5017]

So before I get into anything, I strongly disliked Batman V Superman. I thought it felt rushed, and at the same time boring in certain places. I didn’t like the huge focus on Batman (since they could have done that in his own solo movie), and as a Superman fan, I hated the fact that he was brooding so much when on screen, and that Cavill didn’t get more dialogue overall in the movie. I HATED Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor Jr (which btw is no excuse for him acting like a socially awkward Riddler), and Doomsday should not have had any part of the movie whatsoever. Now, to address some things in the video: 1) I don’t need a Marvel like formula for a Superhero movie. I just want a faithful adaptation of the characters that I have grown up with and followed for years. I think that the majority of comicbook fans and comicbook movie fans would agree. That’s why so many people enjoyed Deadpool as much as they did. It was a near perfect portrayal of the character. Batman is expertly portrayed in this movie because he is naturally a darker, more serious character. Wonder Woman was second best portrayed because while she does have some lightheartedness to her, she can be darker as well. She is an amazon warrior after all. Superman has always been a “bright” character. He is not supposed to be brooding and depressed all the time. In the comics, he is a beacon of hope and light for the majority of other heroes and the public. I get that they want to have a realistic tone to his character, but he is AN ALIEN FROM ANOTHER PLANET THAT CAN FLY AND SHOOT LASERS FROM HIS EYES, some fun and lighter moments can happen with him, as well as more inspirational ones than just him (SPOILERS) sacrificing himself to stop Doomsday. Have a moment like in All Star Superman, when he talks the girl out of jumping off of a Skyscraper. Let Superman be a sign of safety and security, even if the public hates him. The fact that he would be as warm and kind as he can be despite that is what makes Superman great. As for the whole not being in on the current comics and video games argument, there are still aspects of all three of the Trinity that are in Comics and games from the last 5 years that were not properly portrayed in this film. I am very well versed in comics and games today and I am still not a fan of what was going on with this movie. I do agree with it being a bit inaccessible for non-comic fans, another fault of the movie, not the movie goer. There were a shit load of easter eggs and references to the greater DC universe, to the point where again even fans were a bit lost on the whole deleted scene and some of the points made in the movie. 2) I disagree that there are too many Superhero movies out on the market today (however I’m a superhero fanatic). However, when it comes to the number of Superhero movies hurting the market for other movies that just isn’t the case. There are still tons of other movies put out throughout the year. While there are 7 Superhero movies coming out this year, there will be dozens of movies that come out that have nothing to do with them. I do agree that it does hurt the potential for smaller movies to do well, since if they were to come out the same weekend as a Superhero movie, they’re more than likely going to get destroyed. Also, Marvel absolutely should not be the only studio that puts out superhero movies. I want to see great live action adaptations of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Shazam and so many more from the DC side. Plus if they go head to head on the silver screen, they need to compete with each other, making better films to try and win over the other, and in the end it’s just better for movie goers. 3) REALLY??!! This entire argument about having a good relationship with the press is just a BS excuse to justify why Batman V Superman got SO many negative reviews and avoiding that fact that it is a very flawed movie with a huge number of sloppy pieces being in motion. Just because the press doesn’t get to see a movie super far in advance doesn’t mean they shit all over the movie because of it. This is an invalid argument 4) I can agree on certain parts of the movie that were great. Batman as whole was fantastic (I want a solo Batman movie now), the fight between Batman and Superman was fun, and some of the interactions between the trinity at the end were entertaining. But that’s about it. I did like parts of Batman V Superman very much, but in my opinion that wasn’t enough for it to be a great movie. Again, Eisenberg as Luthor was horrible, Doomsday was unnecessary and didn’t look nearly as good as he could have in the design department, the CGI was inconsistent, particularly with Superman, and there were a multitude of plot inconsistencies that took me out of the movie. The movie as a whole is flawed more than it should be, and that needs to be acknowledged. That being said, if you enjoyed the movie, that’s your opinion, like all of this is my opinion. You have a right to enjoy a movie, and I’m glad that people loved Batman V Superman. To conclude, it should be said that it could have been better. It had the potential to be such a critical success and financial success, that it would have had Marvel kind of nervous for what the DCCU has in store. This movie as it is, I felt did nothing to Marvel.

[@DavidHernandez-ug9gb]

+Mike Dominico completely agree in every way.

[@JustinEimersTNT]

Read a modern comic book, get your camp fix from Superman the movie, Reeves was great for his time but it's been time to move on. You cannot have what you had mostly because the world we live in now IS different than the one Reeve's Superman was catering to. Also understand this is Superman growing into the character that we know and love. He hasn't gotten there yet, but he will. We Superman fans need to give Cavill time to bring this rendition of Superman into its fullest light. Until then, we are criticizing a Superman that is still trying to figure out how to be Superman in a broken world such as ours. Have a little faith man.

[@masterdomi5017]

Justin Eimers​ I understand that they are having Superman "grow up" and gradually learn to be the ideal Superman, but they still could have had him not be SO brooding, even when saving people. Just a moment or two where he's comforting the people he's saving, saying "don't worry, everything's gonna be OK", something like that.

[@webstar118]

You earn yourself a Sub for this, the hate was just toooo much

[@dianacarson7457]

Also Grace, you need to realise you are one of the very few people out there who thought the movie was amazing. Even HISHE, who are huge batman/superman fans( they have a cafe dedicated to them in most of their HISHE superhero videos) have been disappointed with the movie saying it was average and made a first time ever special review for it to show their disappointment.

[@ManusDextra]

+diana carson Yeah, HISHE did a good, fair review.

[@Spewbacca69]

Grace, I don't think people wanted fun/jokes/lightness in this movie. Christopher Nolan destroys that argument. BvS was marketed very much as a dark film; including tone and visuals. But what people want is a coherent film. A film with substance. A film with a solid hold on itself. BvS just didn't have that.

[@FuSiOnVoX]

Thank you. Dark lighting and brooding doesn't equate to sophistication. In fact it's incredibly childish to portray the world as dark and gritty. While that does exist it isn't without the joy

[@lkvideos7181]

+Blake Johnson yeeeeah, that's not really how reality works though

[@FuSiOnVoX]

+LKVideos what the joy?

[@Falcun21]

+Jacob Whitfield Man of Steel was blasted for not being humorous like the Reeve movies and WB caught flak for their "no jokes" mandate. Some people wanted BvS to follow the Marvel formula.

[@Spewbacca69]

+Han Solo That's bull. If you market a movie as serious and dark and gritty and have jokes few and far between, it won't work.

[@nightrider3067]

Thats why you cant always trust critics

[@CosmicTeapot]

+Night Rider Exactly. It's not the first nor the last time that critics are inaccurate. Jumanji is a gem from my childhood, I fucking love this movie yet it has a 48% rating on RT and 6,9/10 with IMDb. Just enjoy what you love, don't miss out on it.

[@wildevil]

Rotten tomatoes = Rotten reviews

[@dylang2255]

+wildevil BvS = rotten movie

[@wildevil]

do you have your own mind or do you eat, sleep, shit, rotten tomatoes?

[@SoloTeamDirty]

All I could keep thinking was "no, no, no, no, no, no"

[@christophecruz5092]

+Coblajo Then you're wrong

[@SoloTeamDirty]

An opinion cant be wrong.

[@alejandroespinosa1767]

No Grace, no, no, no. I think u have a case of denial and self fulfilling prophecy. You feel inline your arguments true and therefore subconsciously reinforce them by looking for anything that points to that. But simply NO.

[@hollywoodguy70]

+Alex Espinosa Or maybe concede that a smaller percentage of filmgoers got it and you didn't. There's nothing wrong with differing opionion. It's in my top 5 superhero movies and will be going a third time this weekend. This and Man of Steel are like veal after being served hamburgers and hot dogs for the past 20 years... not that I don't love hamburgers and hot dogs ;)

[@BohemianScandalous]

Exactly. You took the words right out of my mouth. It made this video painful to watch.

[@hollywoodguy70]

I'm defending Grace. Saying her fangirlism is blinding her isn't fair, cuz the vocal minority who love the movie are confused why it's geting waves of hate. Personally I think there's disappointment, and it's escalating the negativity. I disagree that it's a conspiracy though.

[@nyutrig]

+David Plentl oh, we got it. and we didnt like it. try not to be so condescending. and to be honest, i dont think you did "get it".

[@alejandroespinosa1767]

I'm a DC Fanboy as much as any. And I went into this movie hoping it would destroy Marvel's most successful movies and would not believe what I was hearing about it. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Marvel films, and don't want them to fail, I just wanted to enjoy this film more than I had any Marvel films I'd ever seen. I felt very let down. And maybe just maybe it's so good that I don't understand it's brilliance, but I doubt it. My argument is that maybe for whatever reason, people didn't like it. ....... And considering what I thought about it, I think that is the case. Not what Grace proposed. Although I'm sure some of that is going on. But I just think that to blame it on what Grace is blaming it on is wishful thinking.

[@joserangel7346]

well, for me the audience has the better opinion... 71% is the most honest number....

[@ritaroy1990]

+Jose Rangel Actually tens of thousands of fans reviewed the movie before they had even seen it. It used to be at 98% fan approval. I'm sure that the 71% figure will go down in the weeks ahead.

[@MarkFilipAnthony]

Peoples main complains: unrelatable Superman, Batman kills, and 'Martha' is the keyword for them to become friends. Batman is angry and hurt after the death of a friend, he keeps on having nightmares of loosing his family (and maybe in deleted scenes loosing even more friends). The only way for batman to work is if people fear him, and be the strongest and most dominated threat of all. But when Superman shows up, batman is nothing anymore. Batman is just a fly on the wall in comparison, a silly fantasy. So the only way for Batman to show dominance and strength is to go rough. Batman is blind of rage and fear, and ends up killing and torturing, loosing his way. The film is through batmans eyes, and he only sees Superman as this godlike figure, only seeing him unreachable from above. Not a human, a dangerous killing machine, a god an alien. This is reflected in the dream sequenes where for each one, a worse scenario appears. Building up his fear. Superman struggles, because all he wants is people to like him, and appreciate the help he gives. But Batman isn't able to see his humanity. The moment Batman hears his mother name in the mouth of superman, is the moment Batman realizes superman is human too, with struggles and people he loves. Batman regrets his actions, and decides to save Supermans mother. When Superman is loosing his fight, Batman regrets not seeing the bigger picture, and has to look with guilt on supermans fall. He decides to become a better person, and fight for Supermans legacy by protecting earth. But since he's not strong enough to do it alone, he decides to seek help from others.