Battle of Britain's Finest: Spitfire and Hurricane fighter aircraft compared

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Күн бұрын

Battle of Britain Day has been commemorated at Biggin Hill Airport.
A flying display by Spitfires and Hurricanes took place from the heritage hangar as part of the delayed celebrations.
Both aircraft served alongside one another in combat, with people often wondering which was better. Forces News has taken a look at the fighter aircraft, which were crucial in the Battle of Britain.
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@davegoldsmith4020
@davegoldsmith4020 Жыл бұрын
Having worked on both aircraft I love the Hurricane, its the last of the old style fighter, the Spitfire the first of the new
@Marc_Gagne
@Marc_Gagne Жыл бұрын
I love ALL propeller-powered aircraft. I just love the sounds they make. They each have a particular sound. Even a well-tuned Harley Davidson motorcycle has a place in my heart for the amazing, and in my imagination can even see the, sound.
@davegoldsmith4020
@davegoldsmith4020 Жыл бұрын
The sound of a Merlin, unbeatable be it in a Hurricane ,Spitfire, or four of them on a Lancaster
@MySkyranger
@MySkyranger 8 ай бұрын
The Mk 9 Spitfire was top dog against any other propeller aircraft.
@rickywallace98
@rickywallace98 Жыл бұрын
All were good plane's, but that doesn't matter a f**k, it was the fearless men that flew them, who you have to respect, true heroes and even today we have to remember, it was they who gave us our freedom today. No amount of respect is to high!
@caravanstuff2827
@caravanstuff2827 Жыл бұрын
During WW2 the average life expectancy of a fighter pilot was 5 days...for a bomber crew 5 weeks...and still Thay went up day after night... in less than 80 years were gone from the" GREATEST GENERATION TO THE USELESS GENERATION"...if we had to depend on this present bunch of 18 to 30 year olds to fight if the war in Ukraine expands...we will all be speaking Russian by Christmas!!!.🤔💕🇬🇧🇺🇦
@azzajames7661
@azzajames7661 Жыл бұрын
@@caravanstuff2827A lot of russian soldiers don't want to be fighting either! It is just their madman leader🙄
@jackspital
@jackspital Жыл бұрын
@@azzajames7661 rightly said, war is all blood and guts and not glory. It's hell and it's lions led by donkeys
@azzajames7661
@azzajames7661 Жыл бұрын
@@jackspital Donkeys AKA jackasses, lol
@DrGerard66
@DrGerard66 6 ай бұрын
Presumably most who survived to tell the tale were not fearless.
@russellalderman6920
@russellalderman6920 Жыл бұрын
I've a fondness for the early WW2 fighters that were there when war broke out and the best the enemy had came at them. The Hurricane, the P-40, and the Wildcat come to mind.
@windcatcher331
@windcatcher331 Жыл бұрын
The Wildcat interests me the most. Here was a plane that, supposedly, was inferior to the Zero yet was on a virtual par when the final tallies came about.
@actZR900
@actZR900 4 ай бұрын
​@@windcatcher331wildcats could take a beating. Zero could not. .... wildcat tho 👌👌
@rat_king-
@rat_king- Жыл бұрын
It was a glorious day hearing them do this above my head.
@jamesreid8523
@jamesreid8523 Жыл бұрын
Spitfire hands down.
@jakefox589
@jakefox589 Жыл бұрын
Nah Hurricane it could out manoeuvre both bf109 and spitfire due to bigger rudder however both had their roles it’s just the Hurricane deserves more praise because it did more.
@Flurb_Xray
@Flurb_Xray Жыл бұрын
The most successful RAF-Squadron during the Battle of Britain was the Polish 303 equipped with Hawker Hurricanes (during that war period). So the plane cannot be that bad in the hands of an experienced and brave pilot after all.
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 20 күн бұрын
While celebrating the bravery, skill and success of Polish "Kościuszko" 303 sqd, the top scoring RAF squadron of the battle of Britain, also remember the other nationalities who flew as part of the squadron during the battle and who contributed SO much to its success. Polish "Kościuszko" 303 Sqd total kill tally - 58.5 confirmed kills Squadron commander, Sqd Ldr Ronald Gustave Kellett (British) - 5 confirmed kills "A" Flight commander, Fl Lt John Alexander Kent (Canadian) - 6 confirmed kills "B" Flight commander, Fl Lt Athol Stanhope Forbes (British) - 7 confirmed kills. Sgt pilot Josef František (Czechoslovakian) - 17 confirmed Kills. We in the UK remember ALL the pilots (and NOT just the Polish ones).
@davidharris733
@davidharris733 Жыл бұрын
It depends on how well you can fly. The Hurricane was extremely stable, and could be flown with relative ease by less experienced pilots. The payoff was less manoeuvrability. The Spitfire was more of a handful despite the large elliptical wings. But was very manoeuvrable in a tight turning situation. I truly admire the 109 pilots. That bird was by all accounts a bit of a mare to master. Landings especially.
@californiadreamin8423
@californiadreamin8423 Жыл бұрын
I sat in Hurricane at Strathalan. It felt like sitting inside the Forth Railway Bridge !! It smelt the same as the Chipmunk .😊
@dalj4362
@dalj4362 Жыл бұрын
Top 5 Battle of Britain Aces Eric lock 21 kills (British) A McKellar 19 kills (British) J Lacey 18 kills (British) J Frantisek 17 kills ( Czech) B Carbury 15 kills( NZ)
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 20 күн бұрын
Flt Lt Eric Stanley Lock (English) - 21½ confirmed kills. (in Spitfires) Sgt James Harry Lacey (English) - 18 confirmed kills. (In Hurricanes) Flt Lt Archie Ashmore McKellar (Scottish) - 17½ confirmed kills. (Mostly in Hurricanes, with just two scored in Spitfires) Sgt Josef František (Czechoslovakian) - 17 confirmed kills. (In Hurricanes) Pilot Off Colin Falkland Gray (New Zealand) - 15½ confirmed kills. (In Spitfires) Fl Off Brian Carbury (New Zealand) - 15½ confirmed kills. (In Spitifres) Flt Lt Witold Urbanowicz (Poland) - 15 confirmed kills. (In Hurricanes)
@willhovell9019
@willhovell9019 Жыл бұрын
They were both fighting the Nazi Luftwaffe. They both worked in tandem with eachother. Performance and serviceability were factors. Both planes were underarmed , with minimal pilot protection and armour plate. The Luftwaffe used more cannons during 1940. The most famous plane is arguably the Lancaster , which took the war to the enemy , and with which so many RAF airmen lost their lives. The most effective and fastest non Jet RAF aeroplane was the wood built Dehavilland Mosquito. Never forget the contribution of Polish, Czechoslovak , free continental , Commonwealth/Empire pilots and ground crew with volunteers from the Irish Free State to the US
@terrynewsome6698
@terrynewsome6698 Жыл бұрын
Spitfire was a good fighter, but in the grinding war of the battle of Britain the hurricanes were better. The hurricane was cheaper to build, easier to repair, easy for new pilots to learns on, able to take unimaginable damage while still being able to fly, and rugged enough to operate from the worst airfields. All things the better spitfire could not do.
@ianlowery6014
@ianlowery6014 Жыл бұрын
And the Spitfire reached a speed of 605 mph in a test dive, and it was able to take down the V1 buzz bomb, and in France it was jumped by Mustangs a number of times and got away, and it had a far greater climb rate than the Hurricane, and a higher top speed, and was more manouverable, all things the Hurricane could not do.
@towgod7985
@towgod7985 Жыл бұрын
All the criteria you mentioned are EXACTLY what the Armchair Historians don't know a thing about but try to pass themselves off as knowledgeable. Thank you.
@1701enter
@1701enter Жыл бұрын
For years I have wondered why no fuel injection was given to the Merlin engine (particularly the fighters for high g inverted flying) But oh my goodness the sound of that sweet engine !!!
@rokuth
@rokuth Жыл бұрын
Philosophical differences between pre-WW2 Luftwaffe and RAF led to German fighters getting fuel injected engines and British ones getting carbureted engines. I did read somewhere where some Germans had approached the British Consulate in Germany in pre-WW2, with a working fuel injection unit. However, the people at the British Consulate turned them away. Please do note that the 60 series and later series Merlins were given a throttle body fuel injection system. Somewhat rudimentary compared to the German systems, but it did the job.
@user-mjg1067
@user-mjg1067 2 күн бұрын
Not going to pick a favourite as the 2 deserve equal respect
@TheTitaniumSkull
@TheTitaniumSkull Жыл бұрын
I always favored the hurricane. Wasn’t as nimble as the spitfire, but in the right hands with the right skills the hurricane was still a big challenge for the Germans to fight against.
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 Жыл бұрын
It was the Hawker owner Sir Tom Sopwith's gamble, spending his own money on producing Hurricanes in the run up to WW2, anticipating government orders later, which meant that there were just enough of them in 1940 to ensure that the defence of Britain prevailed. Sydney Camm's tubby little puncher did the job.
@carlseddon2392
@carlseddon2392 Жыл бұрын
All the battle of Britain pilots were lions and brave as hell.
@MadMatt13
@MadMatt13 Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does the CGI model of the Hurricane have clipped wing tips and 6 machineguns? I don't think I've seen one like that before...
@imperialinquisition6006
@imperialinquisition6006 Жыл бұрын
The spitfire was certainly the superior fighter , especially with the late versions being worlds better than any hurricane, not to mention the general trend of the hurricane being relegated to secondary roles and later replaced by better aircraft, e.g. Typhoon, Tempest, Seafire. But in the end both played their part and were important aeroplanes in their own right.
@goforitrazz
@goforitrazz 8 ай бұрын
The last models of Spitfires weighted in at 2000 lbs more then the first models,the slow speed performance and turn radius was greatly reduced.the rate of climb though was much higher along with top speed,
@qwerk707
@qwerk707 Жыл бұрын
I wish people would stop saying the Hurricane was covered with Irish linen…yes it was but only the rear section behind the cockpit. The front around the pilot, the engine and the wings were metal covered over a metal frame
@johnlow4064
@johnlow4064 Жыл бұрын
"Britain stood alone" Apart from the very many soldiers, sailors and airmen from the empire and others who had escaped from occupied Europe. The highest scoring RAF fighter pilots in the Battle of Britain included Polish and Czechoslovak pilots.
@Flurb_Xray
@Flurb_Xray Жыл бұрын
thank you from Poland
@johnlow4064
@johnlow4064 Жыл бұрын
@@Flurb_Xray The defence of the Scottish regions of Angus and Fife was entrusted to the Polish army in exile. My father and mother were born in Angus and Fife, respectively, during WW2 - so thank you Poland, from Scotland.
@Flurb_Xray
@Flurb_Xray Жыл бұрын
@@johnlow4064 I raise my glas on that. Slàinte Mhath!
@johnlow4064
@johnlow4064 Жыл бұрын
@@Flurb_Xray Do dheagh shlàinte 😁👍
@Glicksman1
@Glicksman1 Жыл бұрын
From all reports the early Hurricane was at better flying airplane than the early Spitfire. As the Spit design was improved, it eclipsed the Hurri. The Spit's rearward CG made it twitchy in pitch and the early ones rolled slowly at higher airspeed. The Hurricane turned more tightly, and it performed better at lower airspeeds than the Spitfire. The Hurricane was a better gun platform and was more stable on the ground with wider landing gear. The Spit was a bit faster. Looks like in 1940 the Hurricane was better in many ways.
@ianlowery6014
@ianlowery6014 Жыл бұрын
The CG of the Spitfire was exactly where it should be, at the wing spar which was correctly placed at the quarter quadrant of the wing. The elliptical wings gave the Spitfire great manoeuvrability, and it had a tighter turn. I will find the analysis at a later point.
@Glicksman1
@Glicksman1 Жыл бұрын
@@ianlowery6014 I did not write that the Spit's CG was improperly located, only that it was rearward, which is true. Also true is the aerodynamic fact that as the CG approaches the Neutral Point, pitch control becomes more sensitive. There is no one designed CG point, it varies as load varies. CG is a variable factor and moves forward and rearward according to load and falls within a permissible range, called the "CG envelope". Pilots are responsible to make certain that before flying it the aircraft is always within this envelope. Early Spitfires' CG envelope is rather more rearward, that is, closer to the Neutral Point than usual, thus the twitchy pitch control and pilots who reported flying the early Spits often commented upon its very sensitive pitch control. You may notice that the Spitfire's cockpit is somewhat rearward, adding to the rearward CG. It was necessary to put it there because the two fuel tanks and he oil tank ware located ahead of the cockpit. As fuel and oil are expended h CG moves rearward, increasing pitch sensitivity. This arrangement is somewhat similar to that of the Hawker "Hurricane" and the F4U "Corsair". Also, the Spitfire's ammunition was located just ahead of the CG. Accordingly, depletion of it had a similar, but less marked effect.
@whya2ndaccount
@whya2ndaccount Жыл бұрын
I one issued to the SQN - I don't recall RAF pilots being asked, nor the Air Ministry having so many airframes that there was one of each type for every pilot.
@Walterwaltraud
@Walterwaltraud Жыл бұрын
What's the music theme under the Spit? Kings and Generals uses it as well.
@meme4one
@meme4one Жыл бұрын
Heroes will fall - bonnie grace is the intro music.
@Walterwaltraud
@Walterwaltraud Жыл бұрын
@@meme4one Hey thanks a lot, much appreciated!!
@mafiosomemer3730
@mafiosomemer3730 Жыл бұрын
Hurricanes were a thing in Early War, but would be very outmatched by Mid-War and relegated to tank-busting instead.
@chrisburke624
@chrisburke624 Жыл бұрын
Wow 👏 There are modern day IFV's that don't have as much horsepower as the Hurricane did! And 160 rounds per second? obviously one fires in super short bursts, but if the German plane did get hit, it REALLY got it 👍
@meme4one
@meme4one Жыл бұрын
If it hit, the enemy stayed hit!
@meme4one
@meme4one Жыл бұрын
Spit is almost the same as a challenger 3! Crazy power for the era.
@bruceleroyhoffman
@bruceleroyhoffman Жыл бұрын
The Spit was ready and operational just in time for Battle of Britain.
@hermanjohnell2717
@hermanjohnell2717 6 ай бұрын
Cannot be "underestimated"???
@adoatero5129
@adoatero5129 Жыл бұрын
- “And for aviation historian David Keen, it’s [Hurricane] importance cannot be underestimated.” English is not my native language, but to me that looks like the opposite what I’d expect David Keen to say.
@russellalderman6920
@russellalderman6920 Жыл бұрын
Seems like a double negative doesn't it?
@adoatero5129
@adoatero5129 Жыл бұрын
@@russellalderman6920 Yes, something like that.
@maus3454
@maus3454 Жыл бұрын
I miss the comparison
@treadheadpete4770
@treadheadpete4770 Жыл бұрын
Whichever one they told me to!
@towgod7985
@towgod7985 Ай бұрын
Hands down the Hurricane!
@TheJoker-tw8jx
@TheJoker-tw8jx Жыл бұрын
Since I am German - Messerschmitt BF109 E2/E4
@DrGerard66
@DrGerard66 6 ай бұрын
If I had to fight the Battle of Britain, I'd choose German engineering with British tacticians.
@carlseddon2392
@carlseddon2392 Жыл бұрын
Hurricane all day long it has better armour and did shoot down more enemy planes especially in the battle of Britain
@ianlowery6014
@ianlowery6014 Жыл бұрын
The Hurricane's job was to shoot down bombers, the Spitfire's job was to shoot down fighters. If there were no Spitfires then the Hurricanes would have lost to the 109s. The Hurricane did a great job, but without the Spitifire the Battle of Britain would have been lost.
@Vikingocazar
@Vikingocazar 4 ай бұрын
Hmmmm linen vs metal construction… let me ponder that 🤦🏼😹😹😹
@bbbb98765
@bbbb98765 Жыл бұрын
Queue comment wars... 😀
@michaeljfabbro5189
@michaeljfabbro5189 5 ай бұрын
Britain did not standalone
@caravanstuff2827
@caravanstuff2827 Жыл бұрын
Ridiculous comparison...one was designed primarily to fight bomber escorts (109s) and the other to attack bomber formations ..one was more heavily admired and as a result we're slower... people keep making these sorts of comparison's but it's really that simple!!.🤔💕🇬🇧🇺🇦
@TheTitaniumSkull
@TheTitaniumSkull Жыл бұрын
Simple,?, wars are simple to critique from the outside years afterwards, when larger numbers are stacked against you the intended designs are moot. Fact that the Hurricane did more than the general public have been told and the hurricane has always been underrated by many. Like others have commented to this vid, it’s not so much the plane that decides the outcome but rather the pilots. And the pilots that flew the hurricane are above and beyond simple pilots and have played a critical part in surviving as well as winning that war.
@jakefox589
@jakefox589 Жыл бұрын
The Hurricane was better than the spitfire since it could out manoeuvre the spitfire and Bf109 due to the massive rudder
@Ulatimber
@Ulatimber Жыл бұрын
What history are talking about britain was not the one who stopped nazi invasion, mighty soviets were the one who throw out nazi. If hitler would have continued attacking on britain instead declaring war on USSR. Then there would have been no country named britian
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