Battle Of Ceramic Spray Coatings: 2 week UPDATE!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

⬇️🔶 LINKS TO PRODUCTS MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO ⬇️⬇️ 🇺🇸 For people in USA: Gyeon CanCoat EVO: amzn.to/4gm3tUa Phoenix EOD Immortal: amzn.to/4gm8Xhz Armour Detail Supply Phobic: tinyurl.com/4fzv9ycc Armour Detail Supply Phobic (Amazon): amzn.to/3ZtniSR NXTZEN 365Pro: tinyurl.com/2jecjchk CLEAN By Pan Shampoo: tinyurl.com/4z6b9p7z 🇨🇦 For people in Canada: Gyeon CanCoat EVO (Carzilla): tinyurl.com/2t2xjpmh Gyeon CanCoat EVO (TOC Supplies): tinyurl.com/yym432dt Phoenix EOD Immortal: tinyurl.com/2hhfh332 Armour Detail Supply Phobic (Carzilla): tinyurl.com/ycy8skps Armour Detail Supply Phobic (TOC Supplies): tinyurl.com/ynecb6km NXTZEN 365Pro: tinyurl.com/2jecjchk CLEAN By Pan Shampoo: tinyurl.com/42rsb882 🇬🇧 For people in the UK: CLEAN By Pan products: tinyurl.com/bdejyh6f Gyeon CanCoat EVO: tinyurl.com/2nsv8ymj Phoenix EOD Immortal: tinyurl.com/yc29c2e2 Armour Detail Supply Phobic: tinyurl.com/8t8hjek7 Clean & Shiny: tinyurl.com/3s5swsx6 🇫🇷 For people in France: c3po.link/QCWWjkv74R 🇦🇺 For people in Australia: bit.ly/4cbR1VP

[@williamgarcia210]

Pan, What’s up with the horizontal water beads on the Phoenix EOD? Was the coating applied differently?

[@mustanggeek8333]

The Gyeon to me looks the best

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for watching!

[@peteyw]

The horizontal lines on the Phoenix section is pretty strange. I've never seen that before

[@pklemm1]

I was thinking the same thing. Very strange

[@armourdetailsupply]

I see a similar thing but not as drastic on our PHOBIC, and NXTZN. Quite odd. Maybe low spots in the application.

[@alphatango4689]

Yeah. I'm not an expert but those lines are odd. It would drive me nuts.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

If you watch the original application video, all the products were applied as per the instructions, and were applied in optimal conditions to remove as many variables as possible. I even used each brand’s specific panel prep spray to further make sure we don’t have chemical incompatibility or synergy issues. For this update, the vehicle was sitting outside all day in the freezing temperatures and we filmed the video shortly after my brother entered the garage. The panels were still super cold to the touch so perhaps that impacted the hydrophobic properties for some products. But they’re all clearly beading so they are fine. In a future update, I’ll have my brother come earlier in the day, to let the vehicle warm up in the garage for a few hours prior to doing the video so we’ll see if that changes anything.

[@peteyw]

@PanTheOrganizer I watched the first video and I wasn't doubting that you did everything perfectly. I was just saying I've never seen that type of water behavior before

[@FABAutomotiveDetailing]

Gyeon for the win so far! The Phoenix Immortal looks strange but it sheeting the water off nicely.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for watching FAB! Yeah we’ll see with next update if letting the car sit indoors to wark up a few hours changes the hydrophobics. But so far the protections are all still there.

[@FABAutomotiveDetailing]

@ Anytime brother! These videos are always interesting to watch

[@Detailing-in-and-out]

Gyeon is my to go to, is been on my daily driver for over a year.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Yeah it has been a strong performer every time I have tested it. Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@DrivewayDetailswithBecca]

I love the update and looking forward to more in the future! So far so good with them all!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Becca! Yeah they’re all holding up, no issues so far it seems.

[@DrivewayDetailswithBecca]

@ are you going to MTE?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

No unfortunately I’m actually in Costa Rica right now for some much needed vacation. Yet here I still am, replying to comments haha. I need help. 😂

[@DrivewayDetailswithBecca]

@ Pan!! Costa Rica! Get outta here and enjoy ur vacation.

[@maryhoffman2547]

Thank you, Pan and Andy, for the update!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thank you!

[@fatekchamma5236]

The Gyeon Can Coat’s water behaviour under the pressure washer is akin to a bottled coating. Pretty stout for a spray on solution hey.

[@armourdetailsupply]

Thank you for the update, PAN!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

No worries! ADS doing real strong 💪🏻 here! I hope you guys are doing well.

[@404notfound.....]

I'm going to give it up to the Gyeon can coat. Although it's an older product, it continues to impress. What are your thoughts pan?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Yeah it’s clearly still up there with the best new ceramic spray coatings for sure.

[@drive2siva]

Thank you for the update Pan. All 4 are going strong even in the elements.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Yup!

[@bavarianautotech2096]

So, since there is no significant difference in performance of these protective sprays? Then simply buy whichever is least expensive or whichever brand is offering the most significant incentive!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

No that’s not quite right . We need to see long term which one will last longer as durability is the main determining factor for most buyers, along with cost. So we will see in future updates how these products will do.

[@tier1detailcompany]

So far gyeon is by far the best, not surprising. Phoenix looks like an improper install. And I am really excited to see what the ADS Phobic looks like down the road

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. They are all still present and doing well indeed. So we’ll see how they do over the coming months. If you watch the original application video, all the products were applied as per the instructions, and were applied in optimal conditions to remove as many variables as possible. I even used each brand’s specific panel prep spray to further make sure we don’t have chemical incompatibility or synergy issues. For this update, the vehicle was sitting outside all day in the freezing temperatures and we filmed the video shortly after my brother entered the garage. The panels were still super cold to the touch so perhaps that impacted the hydrophobic properties for some products. But they’re all clearly beading so they are fine. In a future update, I’ll have my brother come earlier in the day, to let the vehicle warm up in the garage for a few hours prior to doing the video so we’ll see if that changes anything.

[@tier1detailcompany]

@PanTheOrganizer solid copy, Pan. Good feedback. I'm looking forward to the next one man

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Cool! Thanks man!

[@phileas816]

Gyeon and NXTZEN are the clear winners to me, hard to tell the difference. I appreciate the respect you have for those brands and the way you gave Phoenix a chance but as a subscriber thus not the reviewer from my own personal perspective, from what I see Phoenix EOD is clearly behind and looks weird to me.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks fot sharing your thoughts. Have you tested any of these? Which is your personal favourite?

[@phileas816]

@@PanTheOrganizer I like Obsssd and DIY Detail ceramic sprays. But I use these after some time passes from proper ceramic coating application (2 layers) which I boost with Reload 2.0. All of that are my favorite. for some reasons I haven't been able to figure out, I find Gyeon products very difficult to apply, especially on soft Porsche paint, but it's not the brand, I am sure it's me I just don't know why, just requires more efforts and results are variable. In any case, I am looking forward to test your products, but I am waiting for the Clean Ceramic spray you have that is out of stock to be available to order your entire collection! Spring is almost there in the PNW (haha). I am planning to detail all my cars with it. Can't wait!

[@ethoscarcare]

Gyeon looking like a beast here.

[@dannydaugherty5702]

The Gyeon Can coat looks 👀 pretty good to me 👍

[@PanTheOrganizer]

They’re all still doing good for sure. Have you personally used any of these Danny?

[@dannydaugherty5702]

@ Yes! I have the Can coat in my detailing arsenal 🥰 I agree that they are all doing well! I may have to give the other brands a try but first I want to get my hand on some of your products ☝️🤣

[@go.for.m.o.]

I love this series, Pan! While all of them seem to be performing pretty well, I'd say that it appears the Gyeon and ADS are performing a little stronger than the Pheonix and Nxtzen. Especially under the pressure washer, the Gyeon REPELS the water quickly!

[@dlang1009]

I really like Gtechniq products , the spray on I use here in Florida has been great. Live your videos.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks! What’s your favourite Gtechniq product in their lineup?

[@neilwalker5041]

Great test Pan and I appreciate the video being under twenty minutes. All of the products are really good and will work. The ADS looks really cool but the shelf life of the opened bottle is a concern. Nxtzen looks cool too. Gyeon Cancoat is still awesome. I love Phoenix but Immortal needs an update. Thank you Andy for providing us with real world results on your vehicle.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts Neil!

[@BobBohner4851]

Love clean cars with great products. Pan, I just placed another $30 order of your products. I love them all. Can’t wait to try your clay towel and more

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Bob! What’s your favourite CLEAN product so far?

[@BobBohner4851]

@ your two coatings, panel clean, spray polish, spray sealant. I ordered a gal of rinseless and your clay towel. It’s expensive to get started so it takes time. Every one of your products I’ve tried have been 5*. It’s a pleasure taking care of my two new Subaru’s. I’ve never done it before and I started in November in our wonderful Buffalo NY weather so it’s a learning curve. As always thanks for answering my questions as I learn. I love a clean car. :-)

[@nickevans3190]

Fantastic video from Pan & Andy, I just love beading, so for me, it's the Gyeon

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Nick! Have you personally tested any of these products used here?

[@nickevans3190]

​@PanTheOrganizer Hi pan I've actually used the Gyeon on a neighbours vehicle for 6mths and with regular washes apx every 3 weeks and it's performing as day 1

[@seabreezeof]

When I apply a Ceramic Spray Coatings, I will follow up with there designated topper. As an example Armour with Amplify, Phoenix with Titam and so forth and so on. With normal proper maintenance all will hold up there designated time limit, as they are all very decent products, now if you abuse maintenance the one with the best properties will standout. Let see how this test Pan's out. No pun intended . One's mileage may differ depending on environment conditions.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Exactly. I have always said that product durability depends on many factors, including: - prep - application - maintenance - yearly mileage - weather/conditions where you live - garage kept car vs car kept in the elements 24/7 - bad product batch or not stored properly or product well past its expiry date or intended shelf life And so on and so forth. So the tests I do in my conditions allow me to see how well products do in those specific conditions. Results can absolutely be different for others with other conditions. I wish more product reviewers would mention these things.

[@ShineYourLightDetailing]

Hey Pan! For the Phoenix EOD Immortal… Is that V1 or V2? Thank you!! 👍🏼👍🏼

[@PanTheOrganizer]

I ordered all fresh bottles for the test so I’m assuming it’s V2? It doesn’t say on the label. How do you know V1 from V2?

[@ShineYourLightDetailing]

@ V1 is a 5h hardness and V2 is a 7H hardness. V2 is slightly slicker as well. If you’ve ordered in the past couple months, it’s most likely V2.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

So then yeah it’s most likely V2 as it was a recent order just before filming the video, perhaps a month prior.

[@Adrian-19-A]

My windshield wipers are stuttering like crazy after using a cermic coating on my wildshield. Any suggestions?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

It can happen for many reasons. Often just one layer absorbs too much into the glass, and adding a second layer corrects that. I had stutter issues when we applied C6 Hydro Glass on my windshield, I applied a second layer and now it’s fine. Sometimes it’s the wiper blades which aren’t sitting truly perpendicular to the glass and will cause skipping. Sometimes you have to bend the wiper arms to stop that. See a good video explaining that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bH2lh56rZZ1matksi=AbXoTfQbY54cFX3i Sometimes it’s improper preparation of the glass surface (decontamination, polishing, panel prep spray) or improper application of the coating. Sometimes it’s a faulty batch of products. Or perhaps just the product itself giving that issue. Hard to say until you start troubleshooting the variables.

[@alphatango4689]

ADS rolling strong. I like their products.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for watching! Have you personally tested any of the four products used here?

[@dwaynejohnson6545]

Me too I have it on my car 💯

[@williampinchbeck4321]

Looks good so far!! Is Andy going to keep it clean? Thanks Pan!!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks William! Andy isn’t keeping it clean this winter, I can tell you that much 😂😂 He’s relying on me. He also doesn’t have any space in his tiny garage to wash his car unfortunately, and he knows I don’t recommend automatic car washes. But hopefully in the spring time he pulls his car out and enjoys keeping it clean, as I provided him with a buch of cool gear and products.

[@williampinchbeck4321]

@PanTheOrganizer I'm so glad you are showing your conditions so we can see the problems you can try to overcome!! Here in Southern California we don't have your problems unless you live in the local mountains and those conditions aren't close to what you have!! Maybe you can do a video of Andy washing his car!! Thanks Pan!!

[@garywayne123]

I accidentally left my clean ceramic sealant , and phobic in the unheated garage . It has been quite cold there are unopened . Will they be okay if they froze?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

The general consensus when it comes to detailing chemicals, especially paint protections, is that they will be affected by excessive heat or freezing temperatures, some perhaps more than others depending on the formulation and chemistry. So my recommendation to viewers is to always store their chemicals in a controlled environment following the manufacturer’s recommendations for storage and shelf life. Also keep in mind that most products are also only typically good for about a year as long as they’re kept in stable conditions and not frozen, or otherwise stated by the brand. Once opened, paint protections like ceramic coatings and ceramic spray coatings have a reduced shelf life, which is also normal and expected.

[@robl6044]

Great update on your video thanks for sharing 😊

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! Have a good day Rob!

[@bmmaia81]

Hi Pan, what happens when the coating loses its properties? Is it still on the paint as a layer but without the protection, or does it disappear/ dissolves?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

It’s still on the paint a while, but beading turns into sheeting as it further dissipates and eventually there’s nothing left.

[@russbeatty7297]

Hey Pan, if you have to pick one what is your favorite so far?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

I want to wait more updates without drawing conclusions yet.

[@deadshrub]

Such weird looking lines on the Phoenix EOD and to an extent on the ADS and NXT. High/low spots? failed installation? faulty product? How are these products if they freeze before use?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

If you watch the original application video, all the products were applied as per the instructions, and were applied in optimal conditions to remove as many variables as possible. I even used each brand’s specific panel prep spray to further make sure we don’t have chemical incompatibility or synergy issues. For this update, the vehicle was sitting outside all day in the freezing temperatures and we filmed the video shortly after my brother entered the garage. The panels were still super cold to the touch so perhaps that impacted the hydrophobic properties for some products. But they’re all clearly beading so they are fine. In a future update, I’ll have my brother come earlier in the day, to let the vehicle warm up in the garage for a few hours prior to doing the video so we’ll see if that changes anything.

[@deadshrub]

@@PanTheOrganizer Thanks Pan, just was a really weird pattern I'd not seen before... did any of these products freeze or ship in freezing temps? I am getting curious about the effects of freezing on these ceramic or other coatings...

[@PanTheOrganizer]

None of the products froze.

[@edwinnegron7758]

Just curious, you never use a stubby gun?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

It is a stubby gun, with the wand extension attached. I just prefer using it that way.

[@jerrenb...]

Do you have a recomendation for a protectant for headlights

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Just use the same ceramic spray or ceramic coating as for your painted surfaces.

[@lrodecw]

Will their be a ceramic coating by Pan anytime soon on the horizon

[@PanTheOrganizer]

I already have two ceramic coatings in my lineup. Were you asking if there will be a ceramic SPRAY coating in the future? To that I would answer perhaps. Depends on what my customers want to see added to the lineup.

[@sakedetailingmostar]

Can you do a review of a brand named ADBL,if you haven’t already made one,i would love to see what you think about it?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

If I get enough viewer requests for it, I’ll look into it for sure. 👍🏻

[@sdhl9936]

Pan how is your pressure washer so quite? Any advice As always great work ❤

[@PanTheOrganizer]

A pressure washer will always be loud, it’s just that some are louder than others. But when filming videos, I just reduce the volume of the pressure washer while editing the videos so it doesn’t hurt viewers’ ears. Listening to a pressure washer isn’t the most pleasant thing haha.

[@jigarnkhatri2300]

Hey Pan !! Still waiting for your products in Australia 😊

[@PanTheOrganizer]

They’re on a boat on their way! It takes a few months but they will hopefully arrive soon. 👍🏻

[@clevo351]

Which one will last the longest without breaking down? lets see

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Yup time will tell.

[@rjazco51]

To Me it Looks like #4 NXTZEN Beaded the Water the Best ... Any Protection is Better Than None....BUT Way to Expensive for me ..I will Stick With Turtle Wax 53409 Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating, $18.00 A Bottle

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. How long does the TW product last on average in your conditions?

[@rjazco51]

@@PanTheOrganizer AT LEAST 3 MONTHS ... BUT I have plenty of free time (retired) I enjoy taking care ok my SUV(my baby) and am constantly cleaning , spraying another coat on it ... AND Thank You for Your Channel

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks I appreciate it! Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on KZbin as we surpassed 1 million subscribers and we have over 150 million views! I have been detailing for 27 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers. You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing.

[@paulclaeys7631]

Hi Pan! Could you use said spray sealant on top of a true ceramic coating as a 'topper'? I'm wondering...

[@victormorales2876]

You could but they’ll be masking the true hydrophobics of the coating

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Yes you can. Gyeon for example even recommends that CanCoat can be used as a topper over their existing coatings.

[@porscheguy19]

I've seen a bunch of these over the years, and I remember that there was one from Bola solution that always beat every other brand.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Which Bola product are you referring to specifically? And which durability test did you see it in? I have only seen one durability test of them on KZbin, there aren’t many.

[@porscheguy19]

@@PanTheOrganizer It was a while ago. Bola has a spray on ceramic topper, and I forget what it's called... but in the tests I've seen, it outperformed all the others. I just said something because I remember thinking that it must have a lot higher percentage of the ceramic product in it than the others.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Was it this video? kzbin.info/www/bejne/farMfWl6d995ncUsi=zd-hqoti9FQgtRIh

[@porscheguy19]

@@PanTheOrganizer I don't think so. I searched my youtube history, and searched youtube, but there are so many ceramic spray coating videos... I remember someone did one of those wash tests, and the last one standing by a mile was a Bola spray coating. I can't remember who's video it was... I probably watched it last June or so according to my history.

[@keithfirebird7618]

Why does Immortal look like it has stripes?

[@keithfirebird7618]

It might have something to do with the temp. of the panel.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Yeah we’ll see with next update if letting the car sit indoors to wark up a few hours changes the hydrophobics. But so far the protections are all still there.

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

Awesomeness 👌 great also with Andy

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks!

[@webmihir]

Griot's Ceramic 3-in-1? Would've loved to see an economical underdog pitted against these.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

I already had it in a previous real world durability test and it surprised many by how well it did.

[@ChristianPizzi-tl2xd]

Gyeon is the king of beading.

[@nws-qk9pj]

Phoenix is holding the water at the same spots horizontally. Was it applied side to side? Looks like maybe the edges of the applicator didn’t apply enough. The other coatings look great!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

If you watch the original application video, all the products were applied as per the instructions, and were applied in optimal conditions to remove as many variables as possible. I even used each brand’s specific panel prep spray to further make sure we don’t have chemical incompatibility or synergy issues. For this update, the vehicle was sitting outside all day in the freezing temperatures and we filmed the video shortly after my brother entered the garage. The panels were still super cold to the touch so perhaps that impacted the hydrophobic properties for some products. But they’re all clearly beading so they are fine. In a future update, I’ll have my brother come earlier in the day, to let the vehicle warm up in the garage for a few hours prior to doing the video so we’ll see if that changes anything.

[@johnevans715]

Gyeon definitely wins this one!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts John. Have you tested any of the others?

[@cgraham6]

Really, a 2-month update would be more useful than a 2-week update. It would be more obvious which coatings are failing rather than scrutinizing each one for the tiniest difference.

[@DrkDragon525]

Bro… while I agree longer term updates are more beneficial, based on the install date of December 8th, it hasn’t even been two months. I’m pretty sure he’s queued up the update videos as they go along.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

This video is more to share a baseline view of what the hydrophobic properties look like in the initial stages after application, so we can have a reference point in future updates. If I had only filmed an update say 2 months later, and one had completely failed, it would be impossible to know if it lasted two weeks, a month, or two months before failing. So before getting into later updates, one needs to start somewhere.

[@cgraham6]

@@PanTheOrganizer Good to hear there are future updates coming, anyway. Still, if a coating completely fails after only two months, I think most people are going to cross it off their list so when it actually failed prior to that is just a footnote.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

For sure! I agree that if a 12 month coating fails after just 2 months, assuming the installation was done well, I’d loon elsewhere for another product hehe.

[@tehama4321]

​​@@cgraham6 this 2 week update is the first time we're able to see what the coatings performed like after the fresh installation. Coatings don't typically just go from 100% to 0% in an instant. They degrade over time. You can't judge how a coating is degrading over time if you didn't document what it looked like initially. Since you can't test water behavior on the day the coating install/ video was done, this serves as that initial performance test

[@grimreaper6042]

Great update Pan it's always good to see how they compare to each other 🤔🤔🤔

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thank you!

[@grimreaper6042]

@ You're welcome Pan big fan

[@PanTheOrganizer]

I appreciate you saying that GrimReaper! Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on KZbin as we surpassed 1 million subscribers and we have over 150 million views! I have been detailing for 27 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers. You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing.

[@grimreaper6042]

@ Just FYI I have been watching your content for about a year

[@dw1508]

Geyon is in a different class and will win this

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Gyeon CanCoat EVO has always been a super strong product for sure. But so far so good for all of them.

[@Riverguide33]

Wierd lines of water beading with Phoenix and Nxtzen. 🤔

[@PanTheOrganizer]

If you watch the original application video, all the products were applied as per the instructions, and were applied in optimal conditions to remove as many variables as possible. I even used each brand’s specific panel prep spray to further make sure we don’t have chemical incompatibility or synergy issues. For this update, the vehicle was sitting outside all day in the freezing temperatures and we filmed the video shortly after my brother entered the garage. The panels were still super cold to the touch so perhaps that impacted the hydrophobic properties for some products. But they’re all clearly beading so they are fine. In a future update, I’ll have my brother come earlier in the day, to let the vehicle warm up in the garage for a few hours prior to doing the video so we’ll see if that changes anything.

[@gyeonusa]

👀

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Gyeon going strong! 💪🏻 I have been using CanCoat EVO since its launch a while ago now. So I know what it’s capable of. That EVO is really a good upgrade in formula compared to it’s predecessor. Good job guys!

[@gyeonusa]

@@PanTheOrganizer Its one of our favorite products and we think its very underrated! Nice to see it getting some love.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

For sure! And in the comments, it’s also nice to see the feedback from viewers who have been using it on their daily drivers as well. 👍🏻 I hope you all are doing well !

[@79blustone]

Gyeon can coat is the G.O.A.T. it just works. Also Pan, I've now tried your shampoo finally! 🇬🇧 It's excellent. I'm very happy with it. I watched your video on making great foam after John's attempt, I am also getting similar results as John. Although mine foam levels are slightly thicker. It's more like Bilt Hamber Touch-less snowfoam. Although foam is not a remotely concern for me as its just aesthetics. The shampoo chemicals are doing the hard work. As neutral shampoo it's very good, the most noticeable feature of Clean. shampoo is the level of lubrication- it's crazy levels of lubricity. It makes cleaning way more fun as the wash mitt glides over the panels. I also like the scent too. I think you've done a very good job. The foam is not an issue for me as the correct doseage of shampoo is more important for cleaning and lubrication. The price is quite high, that includes import taxes and white labeling. So it's something to consider. I'm really pleased. I also really like your paint sealant. Nice and easy to use, the result afterwards is nice, a nice warm glow from the paintwork. Great hydrophobics too. The panel prep is amazing - the scent is sooo good. You should make a long-lasting scent spray with that scent. 🏆

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for the detailed feedback! I appreciate it. I’m glad to see you are having a great user experience overall. And yeah the lubrication is insane with the shampoo. :) For the foam, the updated instructions had been published to 1:10 ratio in the foam lance on the THOR USA and Canada websites, and soon on the UK site. So I would recommend that you try that. But yeah more foam doesn’t mean more cleaning. Do you know what your water hardness is? What pressure washer and foam cannon you were using? I would love that data. And just a clarification. You said the products are white labeled? They are not. They are contract blending which is very different, as it means I own the intellectual property of the formulas and they are made specifically for me. White labeling means you use a generic existing formula from a blender, just change the color and scent and put your label on it. I didn’t want that. I wanted to have my own chemicals made from the ground up custom for just me. :) Cheers mate and thanks for your support of the CLEAN By Pan brand! I appreciate it. 👍🏻

[@79blustone]

@PanTheOrganizer Sorry, I meant contract blending!! 🤦 I'm not fussed about the foam. I do get foam from Clean. Its reasonable, more then double what John was getting, but not shaving foam thick. More like a wet foam thats thin/medium. My TDS is around 230 so it's hard water, typical of the UK. There are only a few places that are soft here. I do have a DI vessel for rinsing, especially in the summer. I'm using a Nilfisk pressure E145 washer as it uses an aluminium cylinder head, making it durable with average pressure. In2detailing delux stubby gun. MJJC Pro V2.0. I recently replaced my hosepipe as the internals of the hose had collapsed, causing very low pressure output and a strain on my pressure washer pump. Now it's fine. I'm happy with your shampoo foam levels. I'm genuinely happy that it cleans well and the lubrication levels are off the scale rather then having thick foam. Its a win from me! I am thinking about getting a Kranzle soon, its an extra 100ltrs per hour on top of my Nilfisk so it would rinse shampoo away faster and I can get round the car easier. Plus a bit more pressure helps too.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Cool! I appreciate your feedback mate. 🙏🏻

[@FrankoDetails]

first!!! 🥇🐿️💨

[@nelsonrivera4976]

Otro ridículo 😅😅😅

[@PanTheOrganizer]

You got it! And thank you for watching!