Battle of the Graphs #1 | F4U-4B vs Spitfire Mk XIV vs Bf 109K-4 vs G56

[@mikeflagger7723]

4.7 g55, p51, p47, mk 9 c, a6m5 / a7m1, g6, 190 maybe la7 as well

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

All on the same graph??

[@mikeflagger7723]

@@AdamTheEnginerd Probably split them or choose like 4 of them to do, i would also like to see maybe dive speed or rip speed in these vids. I doesn't need to be 4.7 it could be 4.3 or smt, thanks for the work you put in, I like these vids.

[@maxsuarezmuller7186]

@@AdamTheEnginerd you need bigger monitor?

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

More like thinking of mobile viewers.

[@left_ventricle]

Adam514 109 G-6 vs 190 A-5/U12 vs P-51D-10 vs P-47D-28 should be fun as well. You’d preferably do only 4~5 aircraft at times, right?

[@corvus8752]

6.3s battle -P51H -I-225 -Spit mk22 -Ki 84 hei -F8F Bearcat (the french one) -He 162 (XD)

[@u_vocarockov]

why u bulli the poor N1K2 and don't even include it here

[@maggi98mw]

@@u_vocarockov because it should not be 6.3

[@u_vocarockov]

video like that would perfectly show this in detail

[@mikeflagger7723]

P51 H is the best by a long shot however mk22 and 84 can compete, the rest not really.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I'll think about it! I don't think it's a good idea to have more than 4 planes though, I feel it'd get cluttered.

[@panzerkampfwagenvausfa5381]

Can you play the He 162 and get an Ace?

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I prefer to show interesting games rather than one with a certain number of kills. I got 5-6 kills in 162, but 3 were bombers/attackers and that's boring af.

[@panzerkampfwagenvausfa5381]

Would you like a challenge?

[@maxsuarezmuller7186]

@@panzerkampfwagenvausfa5381 its not a challenge, Its just a normal game for Adams... :D

[@JoelLinus]

@@maxsuarezmuller7186 Because he knows how to get an ace, a challenge would be getting an ace without getting damaged, or not having to go back to base at all and win the game without.

[@OCL100]

Thats Not possible

[@v3nom4k55]

This is genuinely one of the best video series thnx

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

My best series or ever? Thanks for the feedback!

[@Master_Yota]

This right here, this is quality content that you don't see often. Thank you for spending the time to make this

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks for the praise!

[@Korozija]

*Video starts Adam: Hey, hey, heeeeyyy... BitconEEEEEEEEEEEECT!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Lmao.

[@abdjr.247]

Wassa wassa wassa BIT CONEEEEEEEEE

[@anvutrong6870]

His wife still doesnt belive him

[@majorsly5945]

I gotta admit you pulled a lot of efforts to get this one out . shout out to you my boii . Very good one .

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks my boy!

[@giovannibrandizzi4396]

WE NEED MOAR nice vid bro

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I agree! Thanks bro.

[@mistysurge491]

How bout a reserve battle? He 51c P-26b35 I-15R Fury mk 2 Ki-10-II CR.32 quater And last but not least! The French D.373! Sounds fun! Very nice and informative vid! Now my k4 could have the chance to rule the skies again^^

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Lmao troll performance video.

[@Killatomate85]

russia is still completely ahead in flight performance and firepower, because there is no bias. wink wink.

[@YoChocolate]

#lowtiermatters

[@gulbaharkasim2329]

Shadowblitzer 48 the i15 would win though wouldn’t it

[@Stickman6O2]

More of these, please. Very informative. Great work!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@Xiphactinus]

@@AdamTheEnginerd I've flown both the Mk XIV and the LF IX, I feel they're good in different ways, why did you pick the XIV as the best UK 5.7? Is it that the LF IX drops off at high altitude?

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

@@Xiphactinus Yeah the LF IX is not much better at low altitude, and already at medium altitude the XIV starts being better in climb and speed.

[@onyourkilllist6880]

*_A 4.3-4.7 COMPARISON WOULD BE PRETTY DOPE ADAM!_*

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Gotta specify the planes!

[@onyourkilllist6880]

Adam514 The P-47D-28, or the F4U-1c, or the P-51D-20, or the BF 109 G-6, or the Spitfire Mk IXc, or the A7M1, or the A6M5 Otsu, or the G55S, or the La-7? any combination of these would be pretty sweet! 🍻

[@Alpakinator]

Yesss! That video topic is so good idea. Moar! Could you compare more planes in one video? This one was lacking Ki 84 imo. I'd like to see: La-7 vs Yak 9U vs Bf 109G6 vs Fw 109A5/U2 vs G55 vs P47-D-28 vs P51 D10 vs Typhoon mk 1b/L vs J2M2 vs A7M1. Of course not all :) You could choose those, that you prefer to compare cause are Br differences between them, and 2 of them are premium.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks! Actually until a week ago I was planning on having Ki84 instead of G56, but then I decided to make Allies vs Euro-Axis. More than 4 planes and I feel it'll get cluttered and hard to follow for most.

[@calebnilsson]

Adam, I just started watching your videos and they’re very entertaining. I’m learning a lot watching you. But one of the best things you’re doing is these performance metrics. They’re very hard to find online. You’ve said in other comments that you don’t want to do too many planes in one video, so what if instead you just compile the performance metrics all in one place as you go along? I’d love to be able to do side by side analysis of climb characteristics, energy retention, etc. Keep up the good work man!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks for the praise! You mean climb, speed, MER, etc in 1 file? Because I already have files on speed and MER in the description of my videos.

[@calebnilsson]

Adam514 yes, all the applicable statistics. All I’m saying is that it would be cool if there was a single place where all the information was located. It would be even cooler if there was a way to choose an airplane and compare its performance in different applicable categories against any foes it may face within its BR range. I’m just brainstorming, more about the war thunder community than something you specifically should do. It would definitely be easier as a group effort, it sounds like a lot of work. It would be interesting for you to test acceleration as a function of airspeed though. Some aircraft accelerate very well at low speed and poorly at high speed or vice versa. Again, thanks for the videos!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I've been toying with a similar idea, but yeah the amount of testing required is huge. By comparing climb rate between aircraft, you have a very good idea on their comparative acceleration. Faster planes accelerate better than slow planes when they are near their top speed, so top speed plays a roll when you're at medium-high speeds.

[@Nikarus2370]

Love the video. Want to point out though. In the roll tests on props you should really include a counter clockwise roll as well. Some planes (especially lighter ones) are more affected by engine torque, and thus have different roll characteristics in the direction opposite their prop spin. And perhaps a pair of cw and ccw rolls at a different speed (1 at 400kph IAS, and another at 700. As many planes that are snappy on rolling at 300-500 become bricks in roll above 600)

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks! All these planes have their prop spin in the same direction, so the comparison is still valid. Plus the speed was decently high, and I think that makes torque relatively less influential. Rolls at different speeds would be useful indeed.

[@HawkerMkIII]

I love this kind of videos! Thank you for taking your time and make us a good quality comparison!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

My pleasure!

[@Omen09]

I Want ALL OF THEM :D Thank you very much for starting this series. I missed something like that for so long ;)

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

My pleasure! I've got similar typrmes of videos as this.

[@Omen09]

​@@AdamTheEnginerd My problem is those videos get old very fast with gaijin ninja patches ;d, would rly like to see more videos like this in the future. I wish you this series to be loong and profitable C:

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Not for established planes like props. All my comparison videos are still current.

[@Omen09]

Well you are right, your channel is quite new. And in the last year nothing really happened to props ;p

[@Omen09]

Oh, and now i know what i want to see :D . I would like to see a comparison between top tier props (6.0+) fe spit 22(24), tempest 2, f8f-1(b), p-51h, la-9, yak-3u ( isn't that plane kind of new?), n1k2, ki-84 etc (preferably just best one of each tree). One of the thing in comparison could be capability of fighting early jets :)

[@lingmou943]

Thank you Adam for a test video! Glad to see Gaijin actually BALANCES something XD. FYI: IT's amazing the time and resource required to produce a late war Bf109 is only a portion compared to producing a G56 , a Spit, or a F4U

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Yeah Bf109 production was time efficient! Also smaller aircraft which reduces production time.

[@theScottishKoala]

Fantastic video lad! This channels come a long way since I was last here! 😄

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Haha indeed, thanks mate!

[@michaelpapsch4278]

MiG15bis/F-86F/MiG-17/Cl-13/Super Mystere

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Would be cool!

[@jiaruiyan870]

super mystere deserves to be at above 9.0

[@michaelpapsch4278]

@@jiaruiyan870 I don't hesitate

[@italomatheus2521]

mig-15bis is 8.7 now

[@Nyble_]

And g91

[@lightunicorn1371]

Hey Adam I just wanted to say thank you for these videos I really love them they are amazing ik they take a lot of work and I really appreciate them

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks for the praise, I appreciate it!

[@lightunicorn1371]

@@AdamTheEnginerd np bro I appreciate it

[@lightunicorn1371]

And you

[@florianbielawa2919]

Nice to hear your voice again :D Quite interesting video I am definitely looking forward to the next one. Could you do like 4.0, 4.3, or 4,7 comparison? G-2, G-6, Thunderbolts etc?

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I'll think about it!

[@karldergrosse-333]

Very helpful data. Thanks, Adam.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

My pleasure!

[@TheDeepDiveOriginal]

Amazing video. Gijin should pay for this type of metric analysis. Would be very interesting to see similar comparisons in somewhat lower tier, where the majority of player base is, around 4-5 br. Cheers, great video!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks! They would be able to do these graphs without testing by using their coefficients. I could do that too.

[@petrkocich2014]

Ultimate video ! one of the best WT vids. Keep going!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks for the praise! I will!

[@britishfalcon9239]

Great video. Very informative

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks!

[@d0hk4s23]

Merci pour ce super travail, c'est vraiment interessant et bien clair. Le plus dur sera de garder ça en tête pendant la bataille ;)

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Fait plaisir! C'est pour ça que je le sépare en blocs!

[@gandharvtenali7085]

thank you i having been waiting for this

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Must have been waiting a long time ;).

[@gandharvtenali7085]

@@AdamTheEnginerd well just look at my comment every time u made a prop video ;D

[@hyk1348]

Remaining 5.7 P-47M-1-RE Yak-3(vk-107) Yak-9UT Ki-84 otsu J2M5 Do 335 B-2(airspawn) Ta 152H-1(airspawn) Ta 152C-1(airspawn) S.O 8000 Narval(airspawn) Spitfire LF.mk9 Tempest mk.5 Thx for awesome video! :)

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

My pleasure!

[@maxsuarezmuller7186]

nice video, very usefull. would like to see it a lot more of this. but the conclusion of this video was predictable: ta 152h is best. oh and maybe for the future comparisons i would like to say some japanese planes (a7m2, j2m3 and ki 84 ko) also some love for russia, if you're up for it (yak 3p, yak 9p, la7b20 'and la9?')

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks for the feedback! Ta152H wins every time, that's why it wasn't included in the comparison. I'll think about it!

[@dogeness]

Max Súarez Müller Ta 152H would do well in maneuverability but it’d fall behind in low-medium alt speed and climb. There’s a reason why Gaijin gave it an air spawn.

[@ukoctane3337]

@@AdamTheEnginerd thing about the Ta152H is that the two outstanding things about it are its ridiculous turning energy retention and the airspawn. Apart from that is is actually pretty average at most other stuff but those are the two things that really matter

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

The ridiculous flaps give it a good turn, enough to counter all the US planes. That's also a useful stat in the Ta152H arsenal.

[@maxsuarezmuller7186]

@@AdamTheEnginerd Lol, not only US planes, I did a dogfight with my stock ta152H1 against a griffin spitfire (5.7) and I had no problems getting shots and staying out of his guns. He started with an energy advantage and after a few turn, I had more energy and it was gg. He called me a hacker btw.

[@sharmanbarbhuiya4498]

Great video! Really helps out in fighting and understanding your plane and your enemies. Thanks Adam!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks mate, my pleasure!

[@fileto7]

Awesome video once again

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks!

[@zelator4202]

nice video Adam!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks mate!

[@teeno91]

I look forward to more graph battles bud this was super informative and simplified. I would also love to see you take a stab at the A6M3 br 3.7 👌

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks for the feedback! I think I have a video on it already actually.

[@aalarcca]

Thats a nice idea man!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks man!

[@MrWhite4051]

Awesome, love the format ^^

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@reminiscently9179]

Been off wt, but got back recently and these vids are very informative because sometimes I waste my time grinding a plane. You should do top tier props next

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks for the praise! 6.3 props?

[@reminiscently9179]

@@AdamTheEnginerd ye that would be great, I noticed a new russian top tier prop as well

[@BringTheRain]

Great concept, great execution, subbed!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks for the praise! Welcome!

[@rayseals1732]

Wow, great job and thanks for the effort! I'm more of an intuitive person who could never understand why I couldn't determine whether I'd like a plane in advance from the Gaijin stat cards. Having studied your results and knowing which of these aircraft I enjoy most the answer is MER. I would definitely rank these 1st.G56, 2nd. F4U-4B, 3rd. BF 109K-4 and, 4th. Spitfire MK XIV which is your MER ranking of them as well. I could subjectively argue the 'durability' of these aircraft would rank similarly, an attribute I know I like (and dislike in Spits). Great stuff!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks! MER is a secondary performance metric though, the most important ones are turn, climb and speed.

[@elkhamlichi2558]

This is why I like your videos.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

What reason would that be?

[@elkhamlichi2558]

@@AdamTheEnginerd Videos like these can be very educational. I don't think any other youtuber does that like this.

[@elkhamlichi2558]

@@AdamTheEnginerd And let's not forget you're the Keanu Reeves of War Thunder KZbinrs.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Hahaha thanks for the kind words!

[@baderq8ty99]

amazing video, i have been waiting for a very detailed comparison/analysis of WT planes for a long time, the only way i think you could improve is by adding more planes in these videos.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks for the praise! 4 planes seems to be the limit for clarity though. I did a similar video comparing the 4 tier 4 Bf109s if you're interested.

[@Dytryh]

This video was awersome. Make more like this!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks! I will!

[@blyatifulslav1498]

Its good that i payed good attention in physics and engineering class. Or else Comrade Adam would be angry. If you could. Make a video on starter jets at 7.0, mainly the 262, meteor, P80 and something else.

[@theclockmaker633]

and please dont include the UFO its op and id doesnt teach how to play jets

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I would be angry indeed ;). Most of this video is high school stuff though. Early jets would be interesting!

[@onelyone6976]

@@theclockmaker633 there are 2 UFOs in game, the me 163 and the ho 229

[@theclockmaker633]

@@onelyone6976 the 163 is a rocket not an UFO the ho 229 is the true UFO

[@krosskreut3463]

@@theclockmaker633 ita not UFO its the iluminati dorito

[@andrewmandrona7891]

I like seeing this kind of video, and finding a way to quantify things like dive, stall, high-speed climb, and other factors would be nice to see. That, and it shows how Gaijin believes themselves to be above gaining a wikipedia-level understanding of these aircraft. The F4U-4 had a superior climb rate to the K-4 (at low altitude, at least) in addition to being faster at all altitudes by a small margin: it, too used a fluid-coupled, variable speed supercharger, but with an additional supercharger and intercooling.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Stall is proportion to sustained turn radius. Nah K4 will always climb better than F4U. F4U didn't have a variable speed supercharger either, it's quite unique to German production aircraft.

[@andrewmandrona7891]

@@AdamTheEnginerd the R-2800-18W used on the F4U-4 (not earlier ones) used a hydraulic coupling on the second supercharger. I couldn't find out if it had gears as well, but it did have some variable speed capability. As far as climb performance, low-altitude performance seems to favor the F4U-4: the US military made a report (#7289) putting the F4U-4's maximum climb rate at 22m/s, matching the one on Wikipedia. K-4 sources are conflicted, with Wikipedia claiming 18m/s with WEP, "The Best FIghter of its Generation: Messerschmidt Bf 109" claiming 25m/s, and other sources simply saying "the climb rate was phenominal."

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I'll need to see the source for the hydraulic coupling, doesn't make much sense since the US didn't use that at all. A lot depends on military or WEP, boost, and weight.

[@andrewmandrona7891]

@@AdamTheEnginerd The source for fluid coupling: _R-2800: Pratt & Whitney's Dependable Masterpiece_ by Graham White, Pages 144-145. Climb rates for the K-4 stated that it was the climb rate with emergency power. I assume that it was the same case for the F4U-4's stated climb rate.

[@r-saint]

Thank god for you.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Lmao praise god!

[@nemanjasavic3389]

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition. 😁

[@TheBullitt2001]

Great video

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks!

[@PHStoeberl]

Great video! Useful!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks!

[@marshallblanton3690]

Great video love it man

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks man!

[@hindel6141]

This was.. awesome! =) Tnx for the graphs!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks! My pleasure!

[@messerschmittbolkow5606]

A comparison between the messured graphs and the historical graphs would be nice. My whish is the Fw190A and the secondary fighters of the other nations btw.

[@maxsuarezmuller7186]

great idea

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

You might not like what you see haha.

[@maxsuarezmuller7186]

@@AdamTheEnginerd but plz show us!

[@messerschmittbolkow5606]

@@AdamTheEnginerd I know, every Luftwaffe player knows.

[@shashlik7959]

@@AdamTheEnginerd I am very curious about that

[@lochlanross6107]

I rarely comment on anything, let alone KZbin. However, I found this far too useful to ignore and pass over. I greatly enjoyed this video and in the future would appreciate a USSR aircraft included

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks for the kind words! I also rarely comment on anything on social media. 4 planes seems like the upper limit for clarity though.

[@firmaneffendi2801]

wow, Nice video Adam! It really help me a lot What I would like to see next to be compared, well, I would like : Bf-109 G-6/G-10 P-51D-30 Spitfire Mk-V Yak-9 or I would like the 1940-1941 era aircraft such as : Bf-109F-4 trops Spitfire Mk.III P-39 LaGG-3 If you don't mind, and you would like adding more than 4 aircraft, its up to you, you can choose any aircraft compared to each other in the simmilar battle ratings thanks a lot for the video, I really appreciate it!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks! I'll consider them! My pleasure!

[@BlaBlue]

At 2:58, does that mean you are climbing at that constant speed? Sorry, i haven't understood about how you do the climb test for each aircrafts

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Yeah constant IAS, then I check how much time it took for the aircraft to gain 200m.

[@carmie8329]

I am a big fan of this series!! Well done, but linear ER would be good to have as well. I missed the p47m in this video though, i think it also should be considered when talking about the best 5.7 planes since it doesn’t get an airspawn any more. My BR suggestion for the next video is 4.3 (bf109g2, fw190a4 (ta154?), p51d5, spit f mk9, a6m5, g55, vb10-02, yak9u)

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks for the support! Linear ER is mostly determined by speed which is already compared though. F4U4B is better than P47M at relevant altitudes. I'll consider it!

[@volatile5460]

In arcade, the F8F-1 has its BR lowered from 6.0 to 4.7. I think it would be cool to see how much of a performance difference there is between it and other 4.7 aircraft of both the US and other nations.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Big one, but in arcade armament matters more than in RB so that's why.

[@Marc-zi4vg]

hey can you update the video as the f4u4b recieve an engine buff??

[@_Despair]

Great video, clear and concise! Can you please do 7.0 jets next? P80, Me262, Meteor Mk3, MiG 9. Or whatever you feel suits

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks! I try! Would be interesting!

[@rainsilent]

So you left a bit of information out that would have made the video decisive. I think that was intentional. Well done none the less and great video. As for next aircraft would you be against comparing an aircraft family that happens to be grouped closely together or are you intending to only do the best of nations type of thing?

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Well also how do you measure gun performance? I'm open to suggestions!

[@rainsilent]

@@AdamTheEnginerd You can find data mined numbers. From there you can then give in game practical examples of how that translates via either in match videos or private match videos. Edit: As for suggestion I was thinking the large grouping of Yaks around 3.0. If you really wanted to get crazy with that you could then do an add on of the best 3.0s.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

No one would be able to follow all those Yak variants though haha. I can check those myself, but there's rate of fire, muzzle velocity, speed drop off, and so many other parameters. Who's to say what's more important? Plus all those different types of belts.

[@aaravsubberwal5422]

We gotta revisit this series adam ASAP. maybe 7.0 jets.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Early jets sounds like a good idea.

[@luksthunder]

Keep this videos coming!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I will!

[@carlost.9233]

Nicely made video. May I suggest the P-51 D-5, the Yak-3P, the Ki-84 Ko, and the Fw-190 (A or D model, which ever is closer to a BR of 4.3).

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I'll consider it!

[@sebastiangulisano2378]

like your video very much and the effort put in it

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks man!

[@markden21]

Thanks for the video, excellent information!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

My pleasure!

[@isni1946]

Please play the 3.7 me 410 a-0, it's completely underratedaircraft ! It has good top speed combined with good armement, i like to play it using 2 500kg bombs and use them to kill fighters on my 6

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I'll consider it!

[@isni1946]

@@AdamTheEnginerd Thank you a lot ! You won't regret it , it's a lot of fun

[@tartzmir7934]

K4 got a monstrous energy retention when using WEP during zoom climbing with the speed of 600-700kph , you can climb about 1.5km-2km depending on the altitude and speed , this give the K4 a chance of survive allied fighter retaliation after a failed Boom n' Zoom

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

At those speeds, every fighter on this list would be able to do that about as well as the K4.

[@tartzmir7934]

@@AdamTheEnginerd K4 can last a little longer , I use that to kill spits LF and F2G , they started stalling when my speed reach 300kph , since K4 only advantage is when it attack an enemy flying under it and don't have the energy advantage

[@erwinc.9117]

3.7 fighters! La-5FN, 109 F-4 (former 3.7 current 4.0), Cannon Mustang and spitfire Vb (maybe f6f and f4u as bonus)

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I'll consider it!

[@terrado6746]

Battle graph between the best 4, 6.3 BR super props

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

What are those?

[@terrado6746]

The Spit Mk 22, the P-51H, F8F-1b and the Yak-3U or the I-225... Now... I know that probably you don't have any of the last 2 soo that could be also used for showcase how USSR is in trans-battles

[@terrado6746]

Also... WHATARETHOSEEEEEE....!!!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Meh P51H is better than F8F, might as well leave room for something else. 162 maybe.

[@terrado6746]

Well is your decision at the end

[@mussahemed1153]

Next featured. Give us the 5.7 spitfire comparisons like the one you did for the 5.3 bf109s :D

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I'll consider it!

[@Alex-gn6ii]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the LF 9 is the better of the bunch for War Thunder purposes. Especially when considering how many fights occur at or below 4km. It would be cool to see the numbers though

[@appa609]

I love this concept.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Same!

[@Sultan-cf5wf]

7:24 coming back to this and now the g56 is at 6.3

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Probably warrants 6.0 based on this analysis.

[@pranavarvind4281]

Is there any chance of more of this type of video? Graphs are great! If there is, my suggestion: Spitfire F Mk IX vs Typhoon Mk 1b/l vs C.205 serie 3 vs Bf 109 G-2 trop.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Definitely will be more! Next one will probably be early jets.

[@rinhord]

I really like this, i would also like to see some guides for the planes

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks! I've flown all of them in videos!

[@canergelir1058]

It was very interesting and insta like for effort only. Thanks.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks, but don't like for effort only ;).

[@Gio90210.]

I like it! You should do one on 4.7 planes or maybe 9.0 jets

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Listing the planes would help!

[@Gio90210.]

Adam514 for 4.7 you could do the p47d28, 109g6, g55 serie 1, and la 7 then for 9.0 you could do the mig 15 non bis, the a5 Sabre, the venom, and mystere IIA since nobody really talks about those jets and I would like to see how the stack up against each other

[@danaos8954]

Great work, thanks !!!!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

My pleasure!

[@tusidex5228]

What controls does he use? I know keyboard controls are crucial but idk how to turn them on. Theres realistic controls, full-real controls. Could realy use some help here.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Mouse aim, with keyboard controls for pitch, roll, and yaw. If you go in controls you can change the key assignments to whatever you want.

[@tusidex5228]

Adam514 thanks a lot

[@Suo_kongque]

I think maybe an energy retention in this test could help? That’s a very useful thing to have.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I did an MER test though.

[@Suo_kongque]

@@AdamTheEnginerd sorry. I didn’t see it on the visual at the end. I was making my own sheet to help me remember what to do in certain situations against different planes based on the stats. Apologies.

[@Suo_kongque]

@@AdamTheEnginerd I see it now.

[@Suo_kongque]

@@AdamTheEnginerd oh, I do have another question though. Does the climb speed have a direct relationship with something like vertical energy retention, or zoom climbing ability?

[@blyatifulslav1498]

Ahhh yes. *ENSLAVED GRAPHS

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

EnSLAVed graphs.

[@blyatifulslav1498]

@@AdamTheEnginerd my man.

[@thegalbenduck5306]

Wanted to see the LF MK.9 for the Brits but still really enjoyed the vid.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

LF would be slightly better at low altitude, but trash at high altitude.

[@gibmeleclercplz6025]

@@AdamTheEnginerd trash...?!! LF stands for luxury and fucking sexy man

[@vaclav_fejt]

2.7: P-40, Bf 109 E-3, Spitfire I or IIa, and I forgot the best 2.7's in other nations, but why not include Soviets and Japanese too? EDIT: LaGG-3 series 66, Typhoon Mk. Ia, Ki-44-II, Ki-61-I, Re.2001CN, VG.33, D.520.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I'll consider it!

[@x17TheQuietOne21x]

P-51H, Mk 24, Mk 22, F8F-1B, Yak-3U, I-225, Ki-84 Hei

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I'll consider it! That's a lot of planes though haha.

[@x17TheQuietOne21x]

Adam514 yeah I over did it a bit haha. P-51H, Mk24, I-225 & Ki-84 Hei. Few different combos could be done. Forgot about the N1K2s lol

[@BACCHUS777]

I'd give a leg up to the G56 for armament.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Same for F4U4B.

[@dakinoytc986]

Omg you are a god... More seriously your content is very good and deep. Big ty.

[@brendanwilliams281]

Great video I really like this can you do one on top tier jets like t-2 both mig 19s and f-100 etc

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks! I compared their turn performance if you're interested.

[@brendanwilliams281]

Adam514 I’m watching that right now

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Nice!

[@thebattlefieldproject6013]

You should do a second video with the La-9, Tempest, and P47m and the other popular but not perfectly meta planes. Id like to see how my p47m stacks up against its competition.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

47M is premium though.

[@dominicmauro7203]

keep it up buddy!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I will!

[@davidmarkwort9711]

It was well known that the sitting position played a vast roll, the Allied aircraft usually had a "normal" sitting position where the pilots legs are bent at nearly 90 degrees, the German aircraft has the pilots legs stretched out more, this meand that the German pilot has an advantage over the Allied pilots in tight turns at high speed, he doesn't black out so quick.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Doesn't make that much of a difference though, and irl really high G turns were rare.

[@Aztec621]

Good job!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks!

[@FerriBike]

awesome, great content

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks!

[@turkerakkus2974]

Hey, I have an idea! Lets do one with 4.3. FW-190-A4 vs P47-D25 vs Spitfire MK.IIb vs C.205 serie 3!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I'll consider it!

[@asiftalpur3758]

Even before I watch, F4U-4B will whipe the floor

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Still think that?

[@asiftalpur3758]

@@AdamTheEnginerd I am a changed man now

[@uber693]

do a 4.7 BR one, just about all nations have a great aircraft at that BR. also having a compression test would be nice or just a test to show the high speed dive characteristics.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I'll have to think about how I'd go about measuring compression.

[@luizftavares]

Great video! Im still going to be trash with the G56 because I cant aim the MG151s though...

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

151 is a classic 20mm though.

[@luizftavares]

@@AdamTheEnginerd when accompanied by a machinegun (like in the 109s and Fws) I do wonders with it, but for some reason I cant aim them in the G56

[@hamidyaseen7682]

Can you make the vid about fw 190 d9 d12 and d13 just comparing which one is best. Lastly la9 vs f8f

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

One is a premium though.

[@hamidyaseen7682]

@@AdamTheEnginerd oh i see so remove the premium one

[@alistairevans8204]

I was looking at the premium sales wondering what to buy? I thought about the 288 but I don’t really want to be part of the spam, so I got the 335-B2 instead. I can just imagine the bomber players cursing me. Last game it was 3 B-17’s in 2 passes. Outside of multiple bombers I’ve got a KI-84 otsu, Am-1 and a Wyvern so far. I only got it a couple of hours ago. It’s a challenge flying it.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Wyvern is indeed a challenge. It used to be significantly better. Get Ta154 for Germany.

[@alistairevans8204]

No, what I meant was I have shot all those other planes down in the 335 B-2. I can now add a F4U-B, 2 Spitfires, Tempest MKV and a La-7B to the tally. I already got the TA-154. Flying the DO 335 B-2 is a challenge. Learning all the time.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Haha I dislike 335s though.

[@Rogueginger69]

How does the Bearcat perform compared to the Corsair?

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

A bit faster with slightly better climb, but overall F4U4B is better imo.

[@nifaco581]

Hey Adam can you please play the spitfire mk vc/trop

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

It's on my list!

[@kuc4692]

lack yak-107 & ki-84. Roll it is necessary to measure and with the connection of the rudder. Lag 109 & 56 is not so noticeable.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

I prefer to leave out the rudder in the comparisons.

[@stallfighter]

6:03 but what about Spitfire manual rudder-assisted roll?

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

They can all do that up to a certain point. Just comparing aileron roll gives a good enough idea imo.

[@apexcrackbear4113]

Interesting video, very insightful. While each plane is better than the others in at least one thing, I think the reason people still consider the differences unfair has to do with what stats are more useful in the current meta, some of which weren't even discussed here(like armament). For example: in a Spitfire perhaps you can climb a little faster than the 109, but that's not as useful as you'd think since you're the only plane on your team that can do so. And you and maybe 1-2 other Spit buddies just run into an entire team of 109s and ta152s up there.

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Thanks! The main issue is when you're outnumbered because your team has more useless planes than the enemy team. That's more important than the climb advantage for example.

[@alexuseless967]

Hi, Adam. Hope you still check notifications to old videos. Have you seen the F4U-4B repair cost nowadays? It is insane, it is bigger than such of a 7.7 jets!

[@AdamTheEnginerd]

Meh I don't care about repair costs though.