Battle of the Ports - In The Hunt (海底大戦争) Show

[@rafaellima83]

Here in Brazil you could find pirates copies of the japanese PS1 version being sold on flea markets with the title "Metal Slug Submarine", even with a cover with Metal Slug characters drawn along with submarines. But you boot it up and its just In The Hunt, nothing different at all. As the title shows in Japanese, people didn't know what was written there so they probably just believe it was indeed "Metal Slug Submarine" :D

[@hansweiss469]

Well, Kaitei Daisenso, the Japanese title of In The Hunt, literally translates to Undersea War. The more you know...

[@carlosbragatto]

I played the PSX version back in the day and loved this game ever since. Never knew the Saturn port was inferior, and I had never heard about the Windows version! Thanks Mark !

[@sonicmario64]

Probably the best part of the game is the stage where you fight the giant rock creature while trying to escape an underground cavern in the process. ;)

[@Clay3613]

Glad my dad bought this for me on a whim back in the early 2000's, damn game is seriously expensive now. Looks so good upscaled on a PS3.

[@jrez8225]

Great vid, man. In The Hunt was so overlooked. I picked it up accidently back in the early 2000s thru a trade. As soon as I popped it in and played it for just a few minutes, I knew this was a quality shooter. Still have my PS1 copy!

[@RetroCore]

It is a fantastic game. Seriously overlooked. But on the US side that means it's still relatively cheap.

[@MrSEA-ok2ll]

I played it first on PS1 back in the day...impressive game.

[@jrez8225]

The game looks absolutely gorgeous on my PS3 and 4k TV.

[@Hyper_Egret]

I always thought it was like some metal slug submarin game that never got released in the US. I love the details in graphics and excellent pixel art.

[@NightSprinter]

Hyper Egret III Actually was released for PS1 and Saturn in North America. Just one of those damned-expensive games on either platform. Still worth getting, if you can afford it.

[@captaincommando2602]

I think this is one of the rare cases of a 2D game on the PS1 is superior to the Saturn version. Back to the game... It's basically Metal Slug with submarines, except this game came out 3 years before of the first Metal Slug game and I LOVE IT. Thanks for the video Mark.

[@RetroCore]

No worries. Did you know that the original Metal Slug beta was even more like this game because you only controlled a tank.

[@captaincommando2602]

+Retro Core I didn't know there was a beta.

[@vasilas432]

PlayStation version looks to run 30 frames per second instead of 60. It also has cut animation everywhere in order to run without slow down

[@ThoughtformsOfTheSubconsciousM]

@@vasilas432 Very interesting if this is true. I always just assumed that Xing put a lot more effort into the PS port, and that Sims were complete morons.

[@ravagingwolverine]

I'm a bigger Saturn fan, but it's nice to see 2D done well on PS1. PS1 could do 2D well when the game was a good fit for the machine's hardware setup. Of course, the work of the developer matters as well. Ports are often handled by different teams, so that is a factor as well. I don't know why the Saturn version suffers here. The system's odd architecture hurt other games. As for this game, it's such an interesting idea -- similar to Mr. Heli -- with such unique and amusing art direction that many of us would come to appreciate more after Metal Slug. It was fun to see the comparison for this game. Thank you.

[@RetroCore]

I think the Saurn version suffers mostly due to a poor team making the port. SIMs are a strange company. Sometimes they can impress while others you wander what they were doing. The PlayStation port is missing animation but I think this is a great pay off for full speed and smooth gameplay. Just a shame the Capcom fighters never worked out that way. Those always had less animation and still played like crap.

[@MrSloaneRanger]

You just reminded me that there was indeed a port planned for the SNES! I even seem to recall a screen shot or two in some magazine hmm.

[@TheMrMaynard]

Glad I found my PS1 version a while back. Crazy how expensive it is now!

[@Bloodreign1]

I picked it up years ago, $10, a purchase I shall never regret as the game is fantastic.

[@James-fo8rf]

This game and the metal slug games have some of the best 2d Sprite animation I've ever seen. The nasca team are pretty amazing.

[@RetroCore]

Did you know that members of Nasca went on to form Platinum games? That explains why they release great games (when not working with Activision).

[@rockmanhunter]

MetalSlug-ish to the core. It seems the Saturn version was rushed, because we all know the Saturn can do better. Shame the original soundtrack or other extras weren't avaliable in this version.

[@fulgenzio1973]

Very underrated game, a bizzarre mix between Metal Slug and Blood Money. Great 2D graphic.

[@RetroCore]

Yeah, the Saturn version could have been much better. This and Genkirindan are two Saturn shooters that have you scratching your head wondering why they are so poorly made.

[@Bloodreign1]

rockmanhunter Xing didn't handle it, that's likely why. Xing were pretty spot on with their Taito ports to the Saturn, and even did a great job with Image Fight/X-Multiply on the Saturn and the PS1. Hell, Xing even ported Taito's Pulirula to the FM Towns Marty, and even on that, other than missing character shadows, the game played spot on. Hell Xing also did Capcom's Wonder 3 for the PS1 and Saturn, both are missing animation frames, but both are fantastic ports. But be warned, they are Arcade Gears, which means due to small print runs for that entire series (IF/X-M included, as well as Pulirula), they will make your wallet cry for mercy. Xing respected source code, and it seems they always had it to work with during their porting jobs. Rretro Core, had Xing done Gekirindan, instead of Virgin, it would've come out far better than it did. I will never overpay for a copy of Gekirindan (even when one was $50 at a shop one time, Image Fight/X-Multiply on the PS1 got my money instead, because hey, $50 game that sells for $150 on Ebay was too good to pass up. Of course I also shelled out $50 for Kyukyoku Tiger II Plus for the Saturn at that same shop), it runs choppy, and I have Gekirindan on US and Japanese PS2 Taito compilations.

[@metalcoola]

One of few cases when 2D game is better on Playstation than Saturn. That Saturn controller bug is interesting.

[@Charlie-Cat.]

Hey Mark. Thank you for stopping by to see the latest.. Always appreciate you on what the thread offers and you making comments bro. 8^) Anthony..

[@DragonSlayerKyo]

a total shame on the Saturn port. I guess SIMS was a really cheap contractor back in the day, cause they got a lot of work releasing stuff on Sega's consoles. You can definitely tell this was the same team that developed Slug. The colors are distinctive and vibrant; and the sprite work has that unique touch to it too.

[@RetroCore]

Yeah, SIMS were always hit or miss. You never knew what to expect with them.

[@AaronRedding]

the one time the saturn didnt get a good port of an arcade game ... its ok they made it up to us with everthing else being fairly competent ports

[@RetroCore]

Yep, can't win them all I guess. At least this comment section won't be full of PlayStation fanboys pulling out pathetic "facts" as to why the PSX version is superior when it isn't. This time it actually is.

[@ExtremeWreck]

@@RetroCore I think there should've been a Genesis version of this game.

[@xtremegold2950]

lots of psx fanboys are saying that the donpachi games are bettter on ps1 ...can that be true ?..never play a donpachi game tho....well is not the only game...there is some 2d games that are better on the play...one of them is castlevania SOTN...yes the saturn version is terrible with slowdowns..but konami did not port it..tho

[@ThoughtformsOfTheSubconsciousM]

@@RetroCoreOmg, yes the truth. It really is pathetic to watch them squirm and make things up lol

[@MarcBarkyMarta]

frankgiovonini3 PlayStation fans are irritatingly defensive, Saturn fans are annoyingly smug. At the end of the day, it’s just everyone’s preference, so who cares? The beauty of this series is getting to see all the different interpretations of games, given the various challenges to developers regarding hardware capability, developer familiarity of source material and target platform, overall team talent and time/budget constraints. While the PlayStation here was declared winner, In The Hunt is super cool regardless of platform!

[@retrovideogamejunkie]

metal slug on water...so adicted back in the arcade days ..... freezing rays always got me

[@RetroCore]

Oh yes. Those freezing rays were a real pain. There's nit much room to move.

[@WrightOffsGaming]

Great vid Mark as always, I played this last night with the hope of putting a video up but couldn't get a decent capture as it's so bloody hard lol.

[@RetroCore]

Too right it's bloody hard. I died a million times making this video 😁

[@frankschneider6156]

Great game. Excellent choice for an episode. Don't know why this game is not more widely known.

[@RetroCore]

It is a shame. I guess it just wasn't covered much back in the day.

[@zinesis]

Wow awesome game I haven’t tried this yet gonna add this one to my collection.

[@PTminatoPT]

Even tho the ps1 version has less slowdown, the Saturn version has ALL the animations found in the arcades. Ps1 misses a lot of them.

[@RetroCore]

This is true but even though I'm a massive Saturn fan I'd rather play this on the PlayStation.

[@Bloodreign1]

PS1 port also doesn't have the bugs the Saturn port had. Maybe Xing should've been contracted to do the Saturn port, it would've been loads better than SIMS doing.

[@atomiswave2]

I've always wondered about this game. Mark always has great taste.

[@RetroCore]

Thanks Sky Man.

[@kaikiske7436]

Great video. Still have my US Saturn version and Japanese PS1 version. I don't recall which one I bought first, it's been over 2 decades. I do remember that (surprisingly) the PS1 version was the superior one. Some publisher should release a bunch of these old arcade games on the current consoles, like the ACA NEO GEO games, etc.

[@geoserenity]

Ah...a nice water based shooter showing space shooters how it's done, and the playstation also showing how it's done. ...good video

[@IncaWarrior3000]

RetroCore - you said many didn't know about the windows version existed.... well I did not know there was other ports out from the original arcade at all. Thanks.... I always learn something new from your videos.

[@RetroCore]

I'm happy to know you could find out about some new ports. The PlayStation version was released in the US too. The Saturn version was released all over the world.

[@IncaWarrior3000]

@@RetroCore I never had an original PS1, that is why I probably missed out.

[@Charlie-Cat.]

I love In The Hunt Mark. Such a fun game that I can play it all day. I have all the home versions of it and played the arcade unit as well. I was just thinking about this game yesterday. I din't know you can read minds bro. 8^) Well done as always Mark. Thank you for sharing this with us. 8^) Anthony..

[@DanielAyy]

Oh, Anthony...

[@averageradiantreplays7702]

It's one of the very few times I see an absolute wtf. Yes, Saturn lost, it's not like I mind this tbh, I play for fun... But the exception is absolutely weird, I mean, why that happens depending of models? It's really really, something I wish I could know. Great comparison Mark, I did knew about the Win95 port, but it was too much a mess to me to run on my (At the time) Windows 7 machine, so I just went to PS1 port, I actually consider the PS1 to be easier for some weird reason, and I still quite play it often on my Vita. It's really Metal Slug Grandfather, I will even say that every submarine or even vehicle session of Metal Slug is actually based somehow, on In The Hunt. Keep up the excellent work, regards.

[@RetroCore]

Sadly Sims really messed up the Saturn port. I mean, it won't even boot on certain consoles. You're right about getting the windows version to play. I had a terrible time getting it to run.

[@Bloodreign1]

I actually have this for the PS1, there's a code to add, and REMOVE slowdown, a definite treat if you want it more with arcade slowdown, or like it running smoothly. I also like the fact it has the original arcade soundtrack as well, I personally don't care for the remixed themes, I love the original arcade music's boss theme, and the remixed version doesn't sound as nice.

[@RetroCore]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of the arranged music either. The Saturn tunes I do like though as they're enhanced versions of the Arcade music.

[@kathleendelcourt8136]

I've been watching closely both the PS1 and Saturn versions because I always found that something was off. It turns out that it is not as simple as "the Saturn ports has slowdowns while the PS1 is silky smooth". In fact it appears that the Saturn version is running at 60 fps while the playstation port runs at 30 fps. So while it is true that the Saturn version has more slowdowns they are more noticeable because if fluctuates while the Playtation stays locked at 30fps. The Saturn version also kept the arcade slowdowns while they removed them on Playstation (with an option to turn them on if I'm not mistaken). So you gotta pick your poison, unstable "faithful" 60 fps on Saturn or a stable 30 on PS1.

[@RetroCore]

Very good observation there.

[@grumpyoldgeezr]

In The Hunt runs perfectly fine on my Saturn, never heard of the "unplug controller" problem.

[@RetroCore]

I'm guessing you have the second revision of PAL consoles. The game seems to run fine on those. My Japanese copy runs find on my white Saturn but won't on my grey Saturn. Grey bei g the original model and white being the second.

[@shaggymcdaniel3216]

This game is so hard, I feel the slowdown on the Saturn helps imo. My biggest problem with the Saturn port though is getting the damn game to start.

[@RetroCore]

Tell me about it. There was a second print run of the Saturn game that fixes the boot issue on certain consoles.

[@IMDRanged]

I still love the opening stage music of the arranged soundtrack when I had the Playstation version. I'm surprised the Japanese Windows95 port even existed, and uses the same arranged track. This was one of my first games on my modded launch Playstation. Too bad other 2D sprite arcade ports could not be as good as this game on the Playstion when usually the Saturn excels on 2D in other game ports.

[@RetroCore]

I was also surprised to learn about the PC release. Its deffinety based upon the PlayStation code or vice versa since Xing handled both of them while the worse Saturn port was handled by Sims.

[@sumobast]

Please do a Battle of the Ports for DoDonPachi. It's another win for the PS1 apparently, I'd love to see you cover it.

[@RetroCore]

That will be getting covered in the future for sure.

[@VaughnJogVlog]

I can’t get this to run on my SNES Classic.

[@frankschneider6156]

Try using an emulator to get the ZX81 port of In the hunt running on your SNES classic. It should have enough oomph for that.

[@vasileios6301]

Just put the Mame Core and run it there,thats the original best version and only a few megabytes.

[@Fortuna1]

Remember played both console version, Saturn has various game screens and arrange music but the sound is a bit "cheap", Playstation looks 1:1 with arrange music and screen modes and the sounds looks better

[@MrSEA-ok2ll]

I would assume, like many games, the Saturn version only uses one of its two CPU's. Nevertheless, this game was a 2d monster that was beyond both the Saturn and SNES. It is too bad that it never came to the Neo Geo hardware...amazingly beautiful game.

[@RetroCore]

This game is Deffinetly NOT beyond the capability of the Saturn. The Saturn should have had an arcade perfect port but unfortunately it was ported by SIMS who where that incompetent they couldn't even make the game boot on all Saturn models.

[@losalfajoresok]

How did you played the Windows 95 version? I'm curious to know if the sprite flicker occured if you have a weak CPU or happens no matter what machine you have.

[@RetroCore]

I was running the windows version on an i7 system with 8gb of ram and a TX..... Err something or other video card installed. The PC can run games like Witcher 3 in 1080p with reasonable settings so it's deffinety not a power issue. I just think it was sloppily programmed. Actually, for a 1996 side scrolling game it's very impressing by PC standards. 2D games on PC 's back then we're still pretty awful compared to consoles.

[@Clos93]

My favorite Irem game alongside Ninja Baseball Bat Man!

[@RetroCore]

Ah, yes. Ninja Baseball Man is another great title.

[@LeShark75]

Love In The Hunt, great game.

[@topofbones]

Surprisingly good the PS1 port!

[@Wourghk]

The Saturn's CG intro music cue sounds like it's straight out of a Sonic game. Do they list the composer anywhere?

[@RetroCore]

The composer is listed on the end credits of the game so maybe Gamefaqs have it listed?

[@ThomasJeff1898]

I can assume the composer would be Jun Senoue. Sounds like his style. If not, then it would have been Masahiro Ito as he/she is also credited. I may be wrong on all accounts though.

[@blerghblargh5567]

The visual downgrades of the PS1 version can mostly be narrowed down to the first two stages. It lacks the destroyable icebergs in the first stage, the flicker animation of the windows of the buildings in the second stage and also the parallax scrolling which occurs at the last stretch of the second stage (inside of the production hall). Interestingly, all those things are there in the Saturn version. The animation of bigger battleships getting destroyed is also a bit smoother in that version. There are certainly other minor animations missing from the console ports considering the amount of detail it has but it's really hard to make out besides the ones mentioned and it's beatiful (and fun!) game on both platforms.

[@RetroCore]

Maybe they could have gave Saturn owners the option of less detail to reduce slowdown. Still, it is nice to see all animation and objects in the Saturn port.

[@discopot]

I’ve got in the hunt on my pal Saturn, really good game but huge slowdown I’m sure this video will tell me if the other systems have the same prob

[@JasperTedVidalTale]

Where I Can Download The Windows '95 Port

[@RetroCore]

I got it from a site called IOS Zone but that has been closed down for almost a year now.

[@AlviEao]

One of the few times where the PlayStation had a better arcade port than on Saturn, but in this case XING didn't handle the latter. SIMS Co., Ltd. is indeed a hit or miss developer, especially when they were a Sega subsidiary at the time until going independent in 2004. Good god, they messed up one of the precursors to Metal Slug for fucks sake! SIMS is still active today, albeit only relegated to mobile titles with 3DS and Switch ports, and the occasional fishing titles (a niche they found after porting Sega Bass Fishing to Dreamcast and developing Uchi Tsuri! Sega Bass Fishing for Wii). Irem was still active in video games at that time (or rather the video game division known as Irem Software Engineering since 1997; the original entity Irem Corporation still exists today as Apies, an independent company formerly under Yubis and Atlus between 1998 and 2001), only they mostly produced R-Type sequels and the Zettai Zetsumei Toshi: Disaster Report games. Alas Irem Software Engineering eventually returned to pachinko machines in 2011, while most of the remaining Irem game staff until that point left to form Granzella, which revived the previously cancelled Zettai Zetsumei Toshi 4 Plus: Summer Memories as a result of acquiring the IP in 2014.

[@RetroCore]

Yep, SIMS are a hut or kiss company. You never knew what to expect from them.

[@hoofstermon2982]

I knew that had to be some ps1 port that was good

[@RetroCore]

Yep, they are out there. Just not very common.

[@Bloodreign1]

Raiden 1 and 2, and DX, also say hello, though the Saturn never got one Raiden game. The Puyo Puyo's were also pretty balanced between the Saturn and PS1. Balanced enough for me to own Tsuu and Sun for both consoles, and Puyo Puyo Box for the PS1.

[@dirkb9788]

Looks awsome.

[@bananonymouslastname5693]

The Saturn version is very frustrating, and aside from the booting issues, the slowdown, which is bad across all models, seems to vary based on Saturn model as well. I'm glad I picked it up on PS1 as well back when it was cheap.

[@RetroCore]

For this video I had to break out my white Saturn because the game just wouldn't boot at all on my grey model.

[@loganjorgensen]

Nice to see the PS1 get a good arcade port but the SS faults were entirely avoidable based on other 2D arcade ports. Win95 port looks good, I would have bought it if had it come out here.

[@RetroCore]

Sadly the Saturn port was a half arsed effort by SIMs.

[@Charlie-Cat.]

Hey Mark, A new Samurai Spirits game has just been announced. Have a look on post #16,034 to see on the Neo-Geo thread bro. Really amazing for sure. 8^) Anthony..

[@chakrazoo]

Arcade version runs fine on Super Retro-Cade :D

[@skaraborg55]

AWESOME shooter and one of my all time favourite games. I have played this game countless of times on both Sega Saturn and MAME. Sega Saturn version of the game suffered from terrible slowdowns at times. I'm sure of it could have been done better.

[@RetroCore]

The Saturn version should have been well better. I don't think SIMS where putting in too much effort with this port.

[@skaraborg55]

Agreed. My other favourite shooter on the Saturn was Darius Gaiden.

[@ReviewUSA-ri5dv]

My Japanese Saturn copy doesn't even boot up. It's one of the misprints :(

[@RetroCore]

Mine is the same but it will boot on a white Saturn. Luckily I own 3 Saturns. Original grey model, Hitachi Hi-Saturn and a white one that looks yellow. My copy only boots on the White Saturn.

[@ReviewUSA-ri5dv]

I have 4 Saturns: a white, a model 2 US, a Derby Stallion, and a JVC model 1. I haven't tried it on the US, maybe I'll try that.

[@RetroCore]

Good luck. Hopefully it will work one of them.

[@MechaFenris]

I have to say I wish I had kept my PS1 version... It's going for a pretty penny on EBay now. :(

[@rufnek3124]

a pretty and fun game

[@104d_3rr0r_vince]

What a twist!!! PSX ftw!

[@edwin8808]

Great game!

[@Mr.madmight266]

Just like Gunforce or Geoforce i think it was called in japan, that Snes version of In the Hunt would've probably been nice if it wasn't for the crazy amounts of slowdown. i honestly prefer the Saturn version purely for the arrange version of the soundtrack cause just like Captain Commando on the PS1 i don't really care for the new soundtrack, though i don't know what's up with these arcade ports and the low pitch sound effects. Also, something funny about the PS1 version is that the pirates sold it as"Metal Slug Submarine"and that's how some people got to know about this game. in my case i discovered this game because of Slopes's Game Room and his Metal Slug Complete History video.

[@RetroCore]

Yeah, I'm also not a fan of the new music on the PlayStation game. I think it's awful. The Saturn's remixes of the original tracks are much better.

[@Bloodreign1]

Captain Commando for PS1 also has the original soundtrack for use in the game, you aren't relegated to just the arranged soundtrack.

[@Mr.madmight266]

Bloodreign1 I already know that, i just said that when i tried to play the game with the new soundtrack i just didn't enjoy it as much as the original.

[@YuukoEnjoyer]

The subtitles say "Befit" instead of Benefit. ;)

[@RetroCore]

Oops, typo right there. I'm not neat my PC either so I can't fix them just now.

[@ProbableKoz]

Noooooooooooooooo! The Saturn doesn't win this round! It's a sham! I demand a recount! ;)

[@RetroCore]

Oh well, at least the music is better on the Saturn 😉

[@dazsly]

Yep I agree for once the PS port is better than the Saturn. May have to Hunt it down! (see what I did there)

[@johns6265]

It's sad that IREM ended up having so many troubles, when it came to the quality of the games they were putting out they really punched above their weight. If things were a bit more stable we might have got something skin to Taito Legends or Capcom Classics dedicated to just IREM games, so much of their catalogue is hard to find and spread across platforms, the only decent home version of Dragon Breed is on the Amiga for instance, even In the Hunt which actually made it to consoles is rather expensive to buy these days.

[@RetroCore]

There is an Irem collection for Wii if I remember rightly. There also an Irem collection on the Saturn but that consists of really old games. Kung Fu Master is on it though.

[@johns6265]

IREM didn't release anything on the Wii so you must be referring to the SNK or Data East arcade classic collection. There is a great IREM collection for PC but it's just arcade ROMS in an emulation wrapper. Ideally they should have treated things similarly to the better Sega Ages releases, an R-Type collection for instance that's a real attempt to gather everything they can into one package so that fans can enjoy every variant version. It might be a squeeze but they could have got every R-Type game plus variants onto a DVD, Final and Delta are the only ones that would really hog space.

[@fcoraoni]

A video where Mark says the Playstation version is the best? Run to the hills!!!

[@RetroCore]

Hehe, it happens from time to time.

[@Fortuna1]

Remember played both console versions, and the Playstation was superior compared with the Saturn (sound and loading)

[@WeskerSega]

Even if the Sega Saturn version of In The Hunt is worse than the PlayStation version, I'm glad it was on the contrary with Metal Slug. I kind of prefer having the edge with that particular game even though it would have been ideal having it with both.

[@amerigocosta7452]

This game is so brutal that Metal Slug games are easy in comparison! A very classy shmup nonetheless.

[@RetroCore]

That's true. I reckon it's impossible to 1cc this game.

[@afropowa1598]

You're right, I never knew about the PC port. The Sega Saturn is mega horrible. If I have to unplug & replug my controller to play a game, that game is going in the trash. I am glad the PSX is the best one I'll just get the ISO & play it on my TV using PSP Go. I am surprise you didn't say "You should sub for these sub games" it would have been a perfect corny joke.

[@RetroCore]

Only no man, can't be doing corny jokes 😋

[@grumpyoldgeezr]

No it is not "mega horrible", get a grip.

[@zanegandini5350]

Unfortunately, none of the ports seem to match the framerate of the arcade original, but the Playstation port is very close, and thanks to the original mode, it's actually got some extra content that the arcade doesn't. The Windows 95 port not only has slowdown and flicker, but it looks very blurry compared to the other versions. I'm not sure if Windows 95 PCs were limited in regards of resolution compared to the Playstation and Saturn, but it's certainly the case here. The Saturn port is a real disappointment. 2D arcade ports were the Saturn's forte, so how SIMS managed to fuck it up this much is beyond me. I'll definitely be on the lookout for a copy of the Playstation port now that I know this game exists.

[@RetroCore]

Ah, the windows 95 version looks blurry because it's actually a 240p image that was such displayed on a 720p desk top. The game is very difficult to get running on a modern PC. First it had corrupted graphics. Then the colors were odd and finally I got it to run normally but stuck in a tinny window. I had to zoom in on the game window for this video which resulted in it becoming blurry.

[@zanegandini5350]

@@RetroCore Oh, that makes sense. Another way you probably could have gotten it to run is through DOSBox.

[@jeremycline9542]

Well, if the PS version is actually better, then all my respect.

[@zexalsrevenge511]

Why are you criticizing Irem’s work on the Super Nintendo? I think they produced some good stuff on that system.

[@RetroCore]

Seriously? They only did Irem's Skins Game and R-Type III that ran well. Everything else was plagued with slowdown.

[@gabrielloko30000]

Man i freaking love this game...And i fucking mean it! I had the soundtrack of the arcade and in my opnion...is much better than the PS1-Saturn (Specialy the Third Stage...Is fucking transcendant)

[@RetroCore]

The Saturn music is the same as the Arcade music but now with higher quality instruments. I don't like the arranged soundtrack found on the PlayStation and Windows ports though.

[@MahmoudEhab2023]

Now mark i will have to disagree with you this time because saturn port for this game wins by default because first it has all of the arcade animations second it runs at a very good resolution and finaly because of the arranged soundtrack from the windows 95 version so what will be the next boftp? please tell me you're doing street fighter 3 third strike i told you about all of the ports i know for this game on twitter you know

[@RetroCore]

Not next week as I have the next 6 shows already planned.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

Out of all of SNK's shooter offerings, this one interested me the least.

[@Nestalgba92023]

This wasn't even released by SNK.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

@@Nestalgba92023 Guess Irem just faked the look and feel that well.

[@RetroCore]

The only reason some SNK Neo Geo games look like this is because the people who made In The Hunt left Irem when they went bankrupt and formed Nazca who made games for the Neo Geo.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

@@RetroCore So it's got the same DNA. That's explains it.

[@RetroCore]

Yep, pretty much.

[@ipaschke]

I own the original Irem PCB and can tell you that the Arcade version slows down way, way more than your Arcade footage suggests. It's perhaps even worse than the Windows 95 version, all other versions certainly seem to run much too fast compared to the original. The game was too ambitious for the hardware it ran on back then. You can see this here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYDQpYOCgKdsrckm50s

[@RetroCore]

Hmm, that's very odd. Maybe there are different board renditions. Or the level of the game was set higher? I played all of these versions on default difficulty setting and on real hardware. We, apart from the Arcade footage which was emulated.

[@ipaschke]

The game runs on Irem's M92 hardware. I played the game yesterday on "normal" difficulty with massive slowdown. The arcade emulation most likely isn't cycle accurate which makes a huge difference in this case. It was obiously playtested with this "slow motion mode" whenever there are many enemies on screen and because of it, it isn't a massively difficult game on normal. So it might look better without the slowdown, but it isn't true to the arcade original. No doubt a 60fps version was the developers vision, but the M92 just wasn't up to the task.

[@bhirawamaylana466]

yeah PlayStation FTW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!