Battle of the SASS Revolvers: Colt SA Army vs Ruger Vaquero

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@brianmoore1164
@brianmoore1164 Жыл бұрын
As a third option, I would recommend Standard Manufacturing. USA made, all steel forgings and machined billet, no castings, proper old school case hardening instead of the fake chemical type, and hand fit and finished to a level that Colt has not produced in decades.
@Cucurú-c9v
@Cucurú-c9v 4 ай бұрын
I don't believe Standard produces firearms any longer.
@brianmoore1164
@brianmoore1164 4 ай бұрын
@@Cucurú-c9v They are still making firearms. They still send me advertisements every now and then.
@Cucurú-c9v
@Cucurú-c9v 4 ай бұрын
​@@brianmoore1164Hmm? I'm going to have to look into them. I remember a brand that made beautiful old west style guns. Even had one that looked like a double action Colt of sorts. I called them once and they were out back shooting. Just knowing they were active testing out guns at work sold me on the. But somehow I lost track. Some told me they stopped manufacturing. I'm sure this is the same company. I'll search for them. Daughter needs normal guns. Has an old vaquero, but can't find one to match it.
@jtlehman
@jtlehman 3 күн бұрын
@@Cucurú-c9v I just took delivery of a Std. Mfg. Single Action last month. Gorgeous! Pricey though. At $2300, it would be a big investment to get 2 for SASS.
@Mk-uh4jo
@Mk-uh4jo 3 жыл бұрын
I truly love the look and feel of the real Colts and even their Italian clones, I love the feel and sound of the action with the distinct clicks and am used to the half cock to load and unload. Saying that the Ruger is probably the better gun, stronger, safer especially with six loaded and so easy to load and unload by simply opening the loading gate. I have both, a Ruger and a Cimarron 1872 Open Top and a Uberti 1873 Colt in 22 LR. I enjoy them all. Great video, Thanks!
@GUNS-GDC
@GUNS-GDC 3 жыл бұрын
Happy you enjoyed it Mk.
@Leverguns50
@Leverguns50 5 жыл бұрын
The Ruger vaquero is one of my favorite guns, thanks for sharing with us
@MrIdasam
@MrIdasam 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a "black gun" guy, but I love the Ruger New Vaquero. I just picked up a SS model in .357., just like the one that he's holding.
@EricDaMAJ
@EricDaMAJ 3 жыл бұрын
@Yousef Keagan I don't.
@neganrex5693
@neganrex5693 Жыл бұрын
I love the Ruger vaquero to and it is my favorite of all of them for the simple reasons because they don't cost as much so more people can enjoy them with out going bankrupt, made out of better steal for them brick busting hot loads you can't put in any other Colt look alkies and Colt it's self, never had a Ruger brake down at all unlike the others and great out of the box for fast draw if you are willing to put a little more English in it. The problems with Colt is you must treat them with TLC and the company charges to much for that little Pony on the handle to be worth it. Me and my friends call the Colt six shooter the High Point of peacemakers. LOL. What sold me on the Vaquero is I got a 1956, 3.57 mag Black Hawk that was made on the very first day they started making them and the thing it never seen was a day it needed to go to the gun smith to get fixed and it's been shot and fast drawn a lot. It even has the same fire pin and 90 % bluing still on it. LOL.
@AliasMark69
@AliasMark69 2 жыл бұрын
I bought last week a gun like the one you have. Mine is made by A.Uberti - Italy- Mike Harvey- Cimarron Custom Finished Detailed Model-P-5.5" 357 MAG OM CB.... (P=Peacemaker...OM=Old Model. CB=Charcoal Blue. made in 2021) It is the most Perfect, Flawless Beautiful Revolver I have ever seen. Hand polished. Custom trigger and hammer springs with 1.2 pound release, no slop. It is the most "Authentic" model PAT 1871 Original made by anyone. 4 clicks, safety position, half cock, cylinder moves/locks, trigger locks. Screw for cylinder pin hold, with adjustable positions for hammer stop safety, Original thinner site blade and "V" grove. Round "Bullseye" cartridge remover knob, Rosewood One piece grips,no screws, I put the Clint Eastwood Silver Rattlesnakes on the grips. It is solid and flawless. It looks awesome. I have the Eastwood holster, poncho, hat, shirt, vest, boots, spurs, neck scarf in my tribute display.
@DavidHBurkart
@DavidHBurkart 2 жыл бұрын
Sturm, Ruger & Company truly answered the call for the renewed interest in the SAA with their Bearcat, the Single-Six and ultimately the Blackhawk, filling the void Colt had abandoned. Those 50s heydays of Westerns in the post WWII era created such a huge nostalgia that stands the test of time, design & purpose to this day.
@louisfourie7756
@louisfourie7756 5 ай бұрын
People who bought those guns in the 60 s wanted to experience times of gallantry
@Valor_73737
@Valor_73737 2 жыл бұрын
At about 12 years old I learned to shoot a handgun with a 1st Generation Colt SAA made in 1904. I carried that gun for many years, and it saved my life in Jan, 1973! I became aware of its collector value and semi retired it in the late '80s when I bought a 3rd generation Colt SAA which I still carry daily! I do have a Vaquero, but it is the first generation model on the Blackhawk frame and slightly bigger and heavier than the Colts. The advantage of the Vaquero is the ability to safely carry 6 rounds compared to the 5 in the Colts. The disadvantage, besides the weight, is the ejector rod does not quite clear the empty cases from the chamber as the Colts do. I am not sure if the new, slightly smaller Vaqueros have that problem!
@leonvanderliner
@leonvanderliner Жыл бұрын
That is quite something to think about if it saved your life in 1973. I can only imagine how that went down. It's also a bit uncanny since I believe they went into production in 1873. To think this old gun would be such a help 100 years later!
@Valor_73737
@Valor_73737 Жыл бұрын
@@leonvanderliner I never thought about the 100 year connection! Yes, they did go into production in 1873! Starting in about 1901 they were upgraded to handle smokeless powder. The black powder models have a screw in the front of the frame to hold the cylinder base pin and a round ejector rod tab. The Old Colt is chambered in .38 WCF, or as .38-40. That was the original cartridge for the Winchester Model 73! Bullet is actually .41 caliber, 185 gr., and was originally over 40 gr. fffg black powder. Still my number 1 favorite firearm. I still shoot it from time to time, but its newer sister in .45 LC is my everyday carry gun. The incident in '73 was an encounter with an armed home intruder in the middle of the night in the dark. He missed, I didn't.
@neganrex5693
@neganrex5693 Жыл бұрын
I have a 1884 Colt 45 six shooter my kids named Trump ( Trump 45 ) that has the name of the ranch it once belonged to and the cowboys used for an emergence brake on out of control Horses if needed. It now is only good for show and tell and I allow people from time to time to shoot it so they can say they shot a real wild west cowboy gun that was used by a real life 1800's cowboy. Getting these old guns always make sure if you don't no what you are looking for show it to a gun smith for the ok before you pull that trigger because nasty things you don't want can happen.
@Valor_73737
@Valor_73737 Жыл бұрын
@@neganrex5693 Your Colt is black powder only!
@neganrex5693
@neganrex5693 Жыл бұрын
@@Valor_73737 That is what I was told before I got it and that's what I always used when i made it's loads. The people that shot it always thought it was cool to watch the smoke come out of the barrel. The problem with that is it's hard to see what you hit after the second shot and the wife makes me clean it outdoors because she thinks it smell like a beer fart. LOL.
@richardflaherty2373
@richardflaherty2373 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time and making the effort to create this informative video. I have a Henry rifle in 45 Colt and wanted to get a revolver in the same caliber. Your video was helpful.
@blueduck9409
@blueduck9409 3 жыл бұрын
You can not go wrong with the Ruger. Its built like a tank. It will easily handle the plus p loads, if you need it to fight a pack of angry grizzly bears, but will also be pleasant for target or competition. The Ruger is about $650 ish compared to colts outlandish several thousand dollars. The Ruger is far stronger than the colt, and will handle alot more wear and tear than the colt. The choice is yours, and they are both good pistols, but for the money i think the Ruger is a better deal.
@John-d7p
@John-d7p 4 ай бұрын
For me, it's the Big Vaquero all day long. I bought mine new in 1992, installed Wolff springs, carefully re-shaped the grip frame to eliminate the sharp "plow" profile, and thinned the grip panels. Best mods I ever did to a gun. In .45 Colt and the big Blackhawk frame, it's a very capable sidearm. Polished stainless is indestructible and it remains my Go To handgun for camping. An absolute joy to shoot all day with cowboy loads, and very manageable with very Large Critter Defense loads. The Colts are nice, but like some other guns I've had since new long ago, they are too expensive to risk.
@SlickSixguns
@SlickSixguns 5 жыл бұрын
Owned and shot both I prefer the new vaqueros for competition as they have stronger springs and are quite customizable for speed of the game if I want to be more traditional and historically correct I would choose a Colt SAA that does not mean they can’t be fast I just see more options with a vaquero
@lakeratatouille
@lakeratatouille 5 жыл бұрын
Spaghetti westerns and Italian manufacturers. Makes sense 🍝
@kevlarhorne
@kevlarhorne 4 жыл бұрын
Bleau Hartley very underrated comment
@ramonedetroitguam6075
@ramonedetroitguam6075 4 жыл бұрын
...and it makes for the best romances
@blueduck9409
@blueduck9409 3 жыл бұрын
😅
@EricDaMAJ
@EricDaMAJ 3 жыл бұрын
One of the Uberti importers (I forget which one) makes a replica of Clint Eastwood's gun from _The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly_ so it's appropriate. They used to sell a replica of his poncho too. You have to get your own snowflake donkey though.
@ahmedsaeedmob771
@ahmedsaeedmob771 3 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there Take your upvote
@jimmyruger7529
@jimmyruger7529 5 жыл бұрын
very informative for 5 minutes. Im a Ruger collector, but did not know all the details and years that he explained about the Colt history. I bought a Vaquero new in the box at a show 2 weeks ago for $500. had NO problem getting an offer for $ 600.
@Elvis68spec
@Elvis68spec 2 жыл бұрын
Go Colt, go! I'm a Hughe Colt Fan! Great video!
@braysanborn6000
@braysanborn6000 4 жыл бұрын
Years ago the "old" Vaquero was to large , Colt cost to much so I bought consecutive # Uberti Cattlemans case hardened In 357, slicked them up..eventually engraved and griped them in Stag . I think they are beautiful shoot great and they have been great guns to me for several years .Still love these things ! To each thier own .
@DavidHBurkart
@DavidHBurkart 2 жыл бұрын
Uberti and Piettas are highly crafted, as well-built as anything this side of the pond. I would agree the Rugers are inheremtly stronger overall, but for action shooting loads it all comes down to personal preference
@sonnyshoup1929
@sonnyshoup1929 2 жыл бұрын
I have an “old” Vaquero and I like the extra strength that comes from more Steele.
@mrd9720
@mrd9720 5 жыл бұрын
I can't afford a colt unfortunately. So i opted for a heritage 22 and 45.
@anotherrandomtexan25
@anotherrandomtexan25 5 жыл бұрын
They're actually pretty decent especially for the price! N besides practice is more important anyway!
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't know they made a centerfire single action, so I checked out Heritage's site. Very interesting.
@nasajetpropulsionlaborator8727
@nasajetpropulsionlaborator8727 4 жыл бұрын
bum. did you pay for it using ebt?
@nasajetpropulsionlaborator8727
@nasajetpropulsionlaborator8727 4 жыл бұрын
@@anotherrandomtexan25 dont lie to him. heritage sucks balls. their frames are made of pot metal that cracks after 500 shots
@nasajetpropulsionlaborator8727
@nasajetpropulsionlaborator8727 4 жыл бұрын
@Robert Thompson do you want me to apologize for not being a poor piece of shit? not all of us are bottom of the barrel genetic dead ends
@randallbyrd1973
@randallbyrd1973 2 жыл бұрын
I like the Ruger.,Awesome video TY for sharing
@MrIdasam
@MrIdasam 5 жыл бұрын
I just happened to be sitting here holding my Ruger New Vaquero when I clicked on this.
@jimmyruger7529
@jimmyruger7529 5 жыл бұрын
they are very sweet, I sold mine only to buy a new Marlin 357 Mag. on sale. however I still own 2 of the Ruger SP101 and 1 of the very first year Security--Six from 1972. One can not go wrong coming home from a gun show with a RUGER !
@scvandy3129
@scvandy3129 3 жыл бұрын
When viewing the two models in profile the first thing I notice is the placement of the trigger on a Colt Single Action Army is nearer the rear the trigger guard whereas the Ruger Vaquero's is closer to the middle. Re the latter this might present a problem when gloved hands OR extremely large hands' large trigger / index fingers compromise the shooting experience. You will also notice the difference in trigger's placement within the trigger guard with some of the contemporay Italian Colt Single Action Army clones whose internal adjustments eliminate one of the four, traditional, century-and-a-half old 'clicks' -- when pulling back the hammer. Speaking of differences relevant to purists and/or Cowboy Action Shooters 20 inches was the barrel length on the carbine version of Winchester's infamous 1873. Then, why oh why, is nearly ever contemporary '73 clone manufactured with 19" barrels? In contrast the 20-inch barrel on carbine versions of Winchester's Model 1892 are duplicated -- 20 inches -- with the Italian and Brazilian clones. What in the world -- U.S., Italy, Brazil -- is behind those differences?!
@johnharris8191
@johnharris8191 Жыл бұрын
"If it is not a Colt, it is just a copy"
@nachos_70firebird66
@nachos_70firebird66 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't afford a Colt Single Action went instead with a Ruger Super Blackhawk . 44 Magnum
@lennie2651
@lennie2651 2 жыл бұрын
I shot sass for 6 or 7 years back in late 80s to early 90s.we shot like they would have back in the day,no slicked up guns ,then some decided winning was every thing.now people get up tight if they don't win.the fun was gone.
@Ruger44Redhawk
@Ruger44Redhawk 6 ай бұрын
I plan on getting a Ruger Vaquero or Blackhawk and when I do I won't mess with it. Just learn to shoot like a man, or real cowboy would have. My other Ruger revolvers have stock triggers as well.
@kennethtodtenhagen6087
@kennethtodtenhagen6087 2 жыл бұрын
Colt is a great brand and I do love them but I could not justify keeping a gun that I sold for 3k. I had a 3rd gen, I also have a Cimmaron, a Taylor Drifter with octagon barrel, and a Ruger new Vaquero. If I was blindfolded and you gave me the Colt and the Taylor, I couldn't tell them apart(other than the barrel), fit and finish, action, weight all the same. The Cimmaron is a Pietta, excellent fit and finish but the trigger was like breaking a 2x4(having that rectified now), and the Ruger. The Ruger fit and finish is flawless, the action is precise, the lock up is right on and it is beautiful (stainless with mahogany grips), the only thing I don't like is the grips are too thin and cannot seem to find replacements the don't have a weird design. The Colt was beautiful no doubt but it was a problem child. Broke 2 springs, 1 pin, and had it lock up at half cock and it wouldn't move, nothing moved. It would not come apart either, I had to hand it to my gunsmith loaded in between chambers at half cock.. $480.00 later(repair and polish gouge on cylinder from lock up), I was afraid to take it to the range but I did and timing was off. I had it fixed and traded it for a Colt Python AND a Anaconda. I will take my Ruger and my imports over any Colt saa, hands down, never had 1 issue with any of them and have run hundreds of rounds through them. If I was going to put them in order of quality and accuracy: Ruger, Taylor by Uberti, then the Cimmaron by Pietta (we will see once they finish with it). Save your money boys and it will save some serious embarrassment at the range.
@chillios2222
@chillios2222 4 жыл бұрын
without guys like you history would be getting buried forever, thank you guys for what you do
@enricomandragona163
@enricomandragona163 2 жыл бұрын
No mention of the new Frontier!!??
@southernexposure123
@southernexposure123 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. You answered all the questions I knew I should ask at this point in time,
@Blakelysworld358
@Blakelysworld358 2 ай бұрын
In SASS we do things the old fashioned cowboy way - with a modern electronic timer ringing in your ear!
@JoseyWales44s
@JoseyWales44s 3 жыл бұрын
Then there is the Vaquero vs the New Vaquero, which has more in common with the Colt SAA in terms of dimensions than the Blackhawk.
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@rexcaspian9665 3 жыл бұрын
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@vivaanezequiel9787 3 жыл бұрын
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@rexcaspian9665
@rexcaspian9665 3 жыл бұрын
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@rexcaspian9665
@rexcaspian9665 3 жыл бұрын
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@vivaanezequiel9787
@vivaanezequiel9787 3 жыл бұрын
@Rex Caspian No problem :D
@maxswain69
@maxswain69 4 жыл бұрын
filmmaker Sergio Leone visited the Uberti factory in the 1960s to procure replica Civil War and Old West revolvers for use in all his Western films including The Good, the Bad and the Ugly and Once Upon a Time in the West and that's good enough for me!
@SLAMTRON
@SLAMTRON 3 жыл бұрын
Hi John, I own a set of unfired 5.5" barrel Uberti SASS in .45 LC with lowered, wider (maybe short stroke?) 4-click hammer, and wish to sell them, I just don't know where best to list them.
@GUNS-GDC
@GUNS-GDC 3 жыл бұрын
Let us make you an offer. Go on our site. There's a section there where you can submit.
@acegunner7025
@acegunner7025 3 жыл бұрын
Ues arms list or gun brokers. Dont take 30% from most places who wany to buy and resell it
@stepabove2136
@stepabove2136 2 жыл бұрын
I've got them all but to me there's nothing like holding a colt.
@axelfoleyt
@axelfoleyt 3 жыл бұрын
Great high quality video
@bobsradio6025
@bobsradio6025 3 жыл бұрын
I don't compete in Cowboy Action events, but I do work on my guns. Therefore I prefer the Colt type (Uberti) because it is so easy to take apart and reassemble, besides many of the parts are interchangeable with the 1851, 1860 & 1861 Colts. Since I do not compete, the Ruger I prefer is the Blackhawk with adjustable sights for several reasons. One reason being that I have Henry Big Boy rifles in .357, .44 & .45 LC and Ruger Blackhawks to pair up with them. So I like both the Uberti Colt clones and the Ruger Blackhawks, but not the Vaquero. One of these days I may introduce my Uberti clone to my mini mill and put adjustable sights on it, but I would NEVER do that to a real Colt. I know better than to ruin it's value.
@neganrex5693
@neganrex5693 3 жыл бұрын
The vaquero is a stronger gun than colts and cost less. The colt has a little horse on the handle and cost more than it's worth. Yep i take my vaquero and 56 Blackhawk ( that was made the very first day Blackhawk came of the line ) out for a fast draw and leave my colt hanging because it will fall apart again. Never have that problem with Ruger's. If you love given your money to a gunsmith than stick with the little horse on the handle. No wonder cowboys in the 1800's never had in real life a high-noon fast draw gunfight but if they had Ruger's they may have had one or two in wild west history.
@Lex10999
@Lex10999 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks
@deniscleaver7544
@deniscleaver7544 3 жыл бұрын
Great report, thanks
@glennhummell7676
@glennhummell7676 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Skinny, just found this, good review pard !
@MarkMphonoman
@MarkMphonoman 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Thank you. 👍
@carolannesparkman6938
@carolannesparkman6938 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@Vincerama
@Vincerama 5 ай бұрын
Ruger modified the Vaquero into the New Vaquero. The original Vaquero was larger than a Colt SAA since it was originally a blackhawk. The NV is smaller and more Colt like in it's handling. Also important is that the Rugers have trasfer bar safeties, which makes it safer to load all six rounds in the cylinder. I believe one of the more modern Colt SAA verions had a transfer bar too, but I'm not sure when that was.
@creaserjim
@creaserjim 4 ай бұрын
What about the Freedom Arms model 83?
@eileenmccort2035
@eileenmccort2035 4 жыл бұрын
Whats the difference from a SASS Rugar to Rugar that does not say SASS on it?
@vincentlok8894
@vincentlok8894 4 жыл бұрын
Ruger made some "SASS" Vaqueros that come in a pair, with consecutive serial numbers, and they says "SASS" on them, but they also have a different lower hammer spur. I think they are hammers form the Ruger "Montado". In anycase, the hammer spur is lower and wider than standard Vaquero hammers. Some find it easier to shoot one handed with the lowered hammers. (You can also buy and install Ruger Super Blackhawk hammers in a New Vaquero to get lower hammers). It's possible that the SASS versions might be "slicked up" inside, but I don't know about that.
@Jeff-fc3tw
@Jeff-fc3tw Жыл бұрын
I chose the Vaquero because it has a Transfer bar making it safe to carry 6. Also price.....
@markchambers2812
@markchambers2812 2 жыл бұрын
I’m looking for a Ruger SA right now in 357/38sp
@thomasdissell9990
@thomasdissell9990 2 жыл бұрын
love them both
@shanek6582
@shanek6582 5 жыл бұрын
Does colt currently make a gen3 or do they still make a single action at all?
@charlescomly1
@charlescomly1 5 жыл бұрын
I know several guys who have gen 3's, they tell me there available by order and can take some time to arive, be prepared to spend around $1300.
@bibbyman2
@bibbyman2 5 жыл бұрын
@@charlescomly1 For some reason brand new Colt SAA are becoming available in good numbers and selling at or slightly below MSRP.
@danielboggan2479
@danielboggan2479 5 жыл бұрын
bibbyman2 the reason is colt is borderline bankrupt
@danielboggan2479
@danielboggan2479 5 жыл бұрын
Yes colt still makes them. I think you have to order it and wait a good long while though, and have ~1500 you can part with
@hubertwalters4300
@hubertwalters4300 10 ай бұрын
@@danielboggan2479 I think Colt has been bought by CZ a Czech firearms company.
@0neDoomedSpaceMarine
@0neDoomedSpaceMarine 4 жыл бұрын
I really love that Cowboy movies brought the 1873 back from the dead.
@terrysmith8714
@terrysmith8714 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Cheers
@GUNS-GDC
@GUNS-GDC 4 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@jpb1231000
@jpb1231000 2 жыл бұрын
Can I use a Blackhawk instead of a Vaquero in matches...
@blueduck9409
@blueduck9409 3 жыл бұрын
My vaquero bites my finger everytime. Thats the only thing i do not like about it. Other than that, its highly accurate, extremely rugged, reliable. Bill Ruger really knew what he was doing. He was a very gifted engineer.
@jeffreyelliott622
@jeffreyelliott622 4 жыл бұрын
Although not a Colt SAA revolver Colt also made a clone of they're own catering to the cowboy action shooting sports and it was called the Colt Cowboy Colt .45colt !!! It was a single action revolver shooting 6 shots in 4 3/4 , 5 1/2 and also the 7 1/2 in barrels !!! It was made for only 5 years during 1999 to 2003 !!! This model is going up in value as well if you find one new in box for $1600 to $1800 dollars you're doing good !!! And the 3rd generation Colt .45 SAA today is running in the $2500 to $3000 dollar price range !!!! I was happy to pick both of mine up years ago for $800 dollars and $1000 dollars !!! So I feel pretty good with that investment purchases !!!! Oh yes and I did have a former world champion fast draw gunsmith trick out my Cowboy model !!!! And the best for the SAA model was tricked out by the late great Bob Munden himself before he passed away !!!!
@scottscheuerman6170
@scottscheuerman6170 3 жыл бұрын
Better than wearing out a colt which I believe holster wear is lot worse than shooting them the Italian clones have got better over the years I love my colt single action army’s and would rather use a Pietta or Uberti for my cowboy action guns 3rd generation guns like you said are getting more pricey all the time
@HighFalutinTootin
@HighFalutinTootin 2 жыл бұрын
Love both pistols
@walksfletcher
@walksfletcher 4 жыл бұрын
Cowboy Shooting actually started more then 35yrsago.
@michaelstoeckel2954
@michaelstoeckel2954 3 жыл бұрын
apparently, it started in the 1800s ;-)
@Khorsathedark
@Khorsathedark 5 жыл бұрын
The powder charges used in Cowboy action are one of the things that has always kept me away.
@stantrien8106
@stantrien8106 4 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to one day see a competition that would be to CAS what HEMA is to fencing. It would be about who could get a killing shot on a human target at a realistic distance, not "who can get a round off first by a mico-second and hit a broad side of a barn at ten feet" as in cowboy action shooting.
@walksfletcher
@walksfletcher 4 жыл бұрын
@@stantrien8106 Cowboy Shooting has changed enormously since it's inception. In the mid 1990's it all changed as the combat shooters discovered it. Calibers got smaller, bullets & powder charges got lighter. Targets got much bigger and a whole lot closer. The first match I ever shot had 6" rifle targets at 50yrds and 4" revolver targets at 50ft.
@vincentlok8894
@vincentlok8894 4 жыл бұрын
Rugers have transfer bar safeties in them. I think one version of the Colt SAA might have as well, but in anycase, with the Ruger, you can safely load 6 rounds in the gun. With (old SAA) you should load only 5 and leave the hammer on the empty cylinder. I believe Colts also have the firing pin on the hammer? Correct me if I'm mistaken.
@joaofabres8
@joaofabres8 2 жыл бұрын
A Ruger Vaquero Inox 357 is in the store here in Brazil for 20 minimum wages, a shame.
@sortedevaras
@sortedevaras 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I could afford Colt, I can buy two Rugers for same price as a cheap one and it has the best warranty in the gun market.
@blueduck9409
@blueduck9409 3 жыл бұрын
Ruger is one of the very best on the market period. Quality is better too.
@ozarkliving8754
@ozarkliving8754 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a ANIB never fired Colt SAA 45LC John Wayne commemorative yesterday. Ordered ammo this morning and I'm going to take it to Busiek Woods outdoor public range and fire it .
@jsmith7013
@jsmith7013 5 ай бұрын
I don't own a colt ssa but of course wish I had one. I do however have many ruger vaqueros (not new model) and just love the high gloss stainless. I also appreciate the fact that the ruger if needed will digest pretty much anything including large bullets with plus p loads. Great guns. I wish colt would get their heads on and produce the same quality they did decades ago. No reason why they can't bring the saa back. Colt has been going downhill for a while. Too bad to crap on their own history like that.
@villyvassel6295
@villyvassel6295 4 жыл бұрын
You can load 6 shells safely in the Ruger,
@66smithra
@66smithra 4 жыл бұрын
True and note that for Cowboy Action shooting it's a moot point because all revolvers can only be loaded with 5.
@TommygunNG
@TommygunNG 3 жыл бұрын
@@66smithra Yeah, fine. Sounds like a concession to the SAA's inexcusable fault. In REAL use, though, the transfer bar hands the competition to Ruger on the first round. And the sixth.
@66smithra
@66smithra 3 жыл бұрын
@@TommygunNG it’s a concession to reality. That’s the way things were in the old west and SASS tries to recreate the guns of the old west into their rules.
@TommygunNG
@TommygunNG 3 жыл бұрын
@@66smithra A reality based on the SAA, which is considered actually to have been a step backward in firearm safety. Some revolvers had provision for resting the hammer between chambers. Nonetheless, there is no excuse in modern times for them to be produced without transfer bars or other comparable safeties. As I recall, the "Colt Cowboy" was a SAA reproduction with one, but was only produced for a few years around the turn of this century. Indeed, if firearms were regulated by the Consumer Product Safety Commission (which they aren't, being removed from its perview in the 1970s due to attempts at backdoor gun control by the agency), such would likely be required in all firearms. I'm surprised litigation hasn't forced something from a "state of the art" cause of action. And to Villy Vassel's point, the Vaquero still has that very real advantage in its intended 2A use. "The Second Amendment ain't about games."
@66smithra
@66smithra 3 жыл бұрын
@@TommygunNG What in the world are you rambling about? What kind of dork would want a classic SAA to be mutilated with a "transfer bar?" Why did you think Colt stopped making the "Cowboy?" Because no one wanted it! Why in the world would you be calling for the government to Nanny up our classics with lame "feel good" safeties? Hammers resting on notches were the accepted way of carrying firearms for decades and decades. Look at the Winchester lever actions. They all are the same! They used a half-cock notch as their "safety" and certainly weren't drop safe. The SAA is PERFECTLY safe with 5 loaded. If you want a modern rendition, Ruger has filled that niche since the 1950s. The SAA is one of the most beloved guns in history. It has quirks, but that's one reason people love it. If Colt got rid of the classic 4-click action it would go over terribly, and there are millions of originals out there with the classic action already.
@SuperVorpalbunny
@SuperVorpalbunny 2 жыл бұрын
Once you see an exploded diagram of a Ruger, you will realize why a Colt SAA or Colt Clone is (IMO) preferrable for competition. I can frame strip a Colt SAA between rounds, and the parts failure rate is minumized by its internal minimalistic design. Ruger is a fine revolver, but just my 2 cents.
@HalloweenStalker666
@HalloweenStalker666 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Ruger Single Six 5.50" in .22 LR/ WMR. Next, I'm buying a Ruger Vaquero 4.62" in .357 Already own my modern sp101 & gp100s .357s
@villyvassel6295
@villyvassel6295 4 жыл бұрын
The Vaquero would be my choice,
@villyvassel6295
@villyvassel6295 4 жыл бұрын
Elvis action shooting the king loved guns,
@brianwinters5434
@brianwinters5434 2 жыл бұрын
I love the old model vaquero and the blackhawk for their strength and feel. I know this puts me in a minority but to me the colt single action army and the luger are very poor pointers and I do not like the colts feel or handling.
@jcall1982
@jcall1982 Жыл бұрын
I sure do love the look of the vaqueros (and the overbuilt hardiness) but I can't bring myself to carry and shoot a single action with a transfer bar (or that silly firing pin safety they put in uberti's these days) These "lawyer parts" take away from the historical cool factor for me. YMMV
@georgegeeseman6652
@georgegeeseman6652 5 жыл бұрын
You might as well use wax blanks.never understood using a full size strong pistol with girly loads.
@TommygunNG
@TommygunNG 3 жыл бұрын
Three words: Transfer bar safety. Ruger wins. Next video.
@EricDaMAJ
@EricDaMAJ 3 жыл бұрын
It ought to. But some re-enactors really do like the "load one, skip one, load 4 thing" authenticity. Since they're never gonna use it in a real gunfight, I guess it makes no difference. Still odd though.
@TommygunNG
@TommygunNG 3 жыл бұрын
@@EricDaMAJ A clerk at gun shop said they were obsessed with authenticity. We both agreed that in terms of appearance and operation, that was totally cool. But when a simple internal alteration could so substantially increase safety... No. Truth is, such safeties should be mandated. But given past efforts at backdoor gun control through safety regs, the Consumer Product Safety Commission has no authority over firearms. Aside: As for never using one in a real gunfight, that's not necessarily true of the Ruger: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnaZlWuBZp1-sLs
@EricDaMAJ
@EricDaMAJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@TommygunNG I made an observation (some re-enactors prefer authenticity) not a statement that I agree with their preference ("It ought to.") So again, transfer bar safeties are good. Single action pistol is suboptimal for gunfighting unless you have mad skills with them (some do). It's still better than a sharp stick.
@correctpolitically4784
@correctpolitically4784 2 жыл бұрын
@@TommygunNG I would absolutely defend my self home and family with a Ruger 6. I wouldn't think 2x about it.
@maverickfoxbmsn
@maverickfoxbmsn 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Ruger New Vaquero in .45LC.
@rickmartin9245
@rickmartin9245 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. It's my first SAA. I made a real smart choice in buying the Vaquero. Just about as good as a Colt, but much safer and cheaper without sacrificing quality. Plus you can load and hold six rounds SAFELY!
@maverickfoxbmsn
@maverickfoxbmsn 2 жыл бұрын
@@rickmartin9245 that’s the reason why I bought it so that I would be able to load all 6 rounds.
@keiththomas3141
@keiththomas3141 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I love single action revolvers. I'd love to own a Colt 1st or 2nd generation, but instead I shoot a Uberti replica but it's a good gun. I'm used to the feel of it and that's what counts. Not interested in Vaqueros.
@MM4X453
@MM4X453 5 жыл бұрын
Standard Mfg SAA are very well built may be the best SAA on the market
@MercyMinister
@MercyMinister 4 жыл бұрын
And? This video was not about the Standard SAA.
@MM4X453
@MM4X453 4 жыл бұрын
@@MercyMinister Yes it was
@razorseal
@razorseal 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad no Vaquero in 44-40 :(
@MercyMinister
@MercyMinister 4 жыл бұрын
The .44 WCF is a very good cartridge and will perform well. However, the cost of factory ammo is very high and reloaders have been told that it is a difficult cartridge to reload. The first part is true. Reloading the cartridge is not difficult at all.
@walksfletcher
@walksfletcher 4 жыл бұрын
The Original Vaquero's were made in .44WCF, .44Mag, .45Colt & .357Mag The New small Vaquero is made in .45Colt & .357Mag, with a few in .44Mag
@walksfletcher
@walksfletcher 4 жыл бұрын
@Robert Thompson Who cares ?
@walksfletcher
@walksfletcher 4 жыл бұрын
@Robert Thompson I doubt it. The 9mm is only an advantage if you don't load your own, a savings that allows you to shoot cheaper 9mm. I can still load .38/.357 at less cost then cheap imported 9mm. Had a Blackhawk convertible for 45yrs. Shot maybe 20rds of 9mm in it. Just don't see the need for it. Sub par accuracy too. Some SASS classes only allow RIMMED ammo too.
@walksfletcher
@walksfletcher 4 жыл бұрын
@Robert Thompson We are all entitled to our own opinion. I also have both Old & New Vaquero's in .45Colt. New Vaq & NM Blackhawk in .45ACP/.45Colt. That combination I can see.
@juancarlosbelletti6335
@juancarlosbelletti6335 2 жыл бұрын
Me molesta mucho cuando dicen vaqueros !!1espaguetti!! ESO no se dice porque es menospreciar a los italianos . Su manufactura en materia de armas es MUCHAS VECES SUPERIOR A LA AMERICANA así que no me parece correcto que menosprecien de esa Manera
@barefoofDr
@barefoofDr 2 жыл бұрын
Give a S&W Number 3 in .45 Colt any day of the week. They are much faster to reload.
@mr1bienvenu1
@mr1bienvenu1 4 жыл бұрын
With the Colt you're paying for the name, no thanks.
@0neDoomedSpaceMarine
@0neDoomedSpaceMarine 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Old Colts are fine guns, but the stuff they've been making in the 21st century generally leave a lot to be desired, considering what you pay for them.
@blueduck9409
@blueduck9409 3 жыл бұрын
I have heard from reliable sources, that all the Colt parts are made by Uberti in Italy. Colt just goes over them before installing them. ... this would not surprise me.
@74stevedc
@74stevedc 2 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily true hicock 45 compared them, your paying for action fit and finish. A $600 dollar gun and a $3,000 dollar are similar that they both go bang but go about it differently. I don't have either but would like to some day,. Nothing wrong with a $600 gun but to say it's the same or just as good is not the case.
@tundralou
@tundralou 7 ай бұрын
What’s a REAL Colt SA Army value in great shape i think it’s 1876. The handgrips are too small for a big handed guy
@larryrobinson6914
@larryrobinson6914 2 жыл бұрын
Ruger fine gun and much cheaper than colt. Great in loop holster
@DanSaso
@DanSaso Жыл бұрын
It’s prettier than a Blackhawk
@bthompson1767
@bthompson1767 3 жыл бұрын
Vaquero isn’t close to a colt 1873 uberti is
@enjoypool4052
@enjoypool4052 4 жыл бұрын
Why Colt doesn't update the internals (Keep the 4 click), and keep the external the same is beyond me. Colt should own SASS competition; John Wayne never said "Draw that Ruger!". Although credit Ruger the new vaquero is very nice. To bad Ruger doesn't offer a nicer finish and rubber grips like the Colt.
@blueduck9409
@blueduck9409 3 жыл бұрын
You can get rubber grips for the Ruger. I have seen imitations of the Colt style rubber grips,and modern rubber grips by Pachmayer and Hogue. The newer model grips are like a slice of heaven in your hand. Super soft, and absorbent of excess recoil.
@enjoypool4052
@enjoypool4052 3 жыл бұрын
@@blueduck9409 I hear you I'm just tired of spending X amount of dollars on a firearm knowing I will have to spend more dollars for grips. I do like the older wood grips for ruger I do not like the so called "Gunfighter" grips and despise what they call rubber grips. I do not like the finger grooved rubber grips of any brand.
@blueduck9409
@blueduck9409 3 жыл бұрын
@@enjoypool4052 I totally understand. For me, any firearm always includes X amount of dollars on upgrades and accessories. I feel like every pistol needs its own holster, every rifle a saddle scabbard, or some type of cover. Then there are grips, slings, chokes, cartridge belts, pistol belts, ect, ect. It is a hassle sometimes, but i believe it increases the value of any firearm, or collection when you have everything outfitted.
@blueduck9409
@blueduck9409 3 жыл бұрын
@@enjoypool4052 and i have seen modern rubber pistol grips with out finger grooves. I dont really care for the finger grooves myself.
@enjoypool4052
@enjoypool4052 3 жыл бұрын
@@blueduck9409 I often price a firearm by the cost of amunition and accessories. I would pay extra if the main production companies had a one stop full service custom shop services. Trouble I find is there are individual gunsmiths who do offer services, but the wait time is usually a deal breaker for me and a lot of what they offer doesn't interest me. Quite often you might have to send one firearm to more then one guy with long wait times at each stop. I don't feel like I'm asking for the moon here grips that fit your hand, sights that are easy to see and a smooth trigger seem pretty standard requirements to me. Oh, and I haven't started on rifles and what passes for a "custom" rifle smith most of them should call themselves "assemblers" of parts rather then a custom gunsmith.
@brianwinters7669
@brianwinters7669 2 жыл бұрын
Roger forever
@TheJoker-xw8zg
@TheJoker-xw8zg 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, as much as I hate Colt (mostly for how they treat their customer base)... this isn't even a fair contest. Colt Single Action Revolvers are (*imo*) the more iconic single action revolvers ever made. So as much as I'd love to give it to Ruger, or really anyone but the scumbag corporation that is Colt, but this isn't even a fair matchup. Maybe the Ruger outperforms the Colt in every measurable way... but you don't buy a single action revolver for home defense, you buy it to do some cowboy action shooting. In which case, you'll look much cooler shooting a Colt Single Actions, much as it pains me to say lol.
@blueduck9409
@blueduck9409 3 жыл бұрын
I would not hesitate to use my Ruger for home defense. Just sayin.
@laramiecrowder347
@laramiecrowder347 4 ай бұрын
Reduced loads are crap. Slick them up ruins the gun for heavy loads.
@villyvassel6295
@villyvassel6295 4 жыл бұрын
Or better the New Vaquero,
@blooeagle5118
@blooeagle5118 4 жыл бұрын
I'd buy the Vaquero first. If they are the same firearm, you are paying for the Colt name. I can wait to own a Colt.
@daleweller5193
@daleweller5193 2 жыл бұрын
Unless Colt has really gone down hill there is no comparison between a Colt and a Ruger.
@johnsmith-by3yg
@johnsmith-by3yg 3 жыл бұрын
colt colt we heard all that already. all you colt lovers try a blind fold test shooting/ more than colt has 4 clicke clicks
@chuckcrooks2114
@chuckcrooks2114 4 жыл бұрын
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Hooooooooooooooooooooo Skinny!
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