Colt Single Action Army vs Uberti SAA (History and Comparison)

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@robertlewis7347
@robertlewis7347 2 жыл бұрын
The longer pin on the Uberti is used for a safety. If you push it in to the second notch it will protrude from the back of the frame and act as a hammer block to prevent the firing pin from being able to contact a cartridge beneath it if the hammer is inadvertently struck. .
@Robert-ko8fi
@Robert-ko8fi Ай бұрын
I only use it if I have it stored loaded with 6 rounds instead of 5. But even though they have the floating fire pin they can still fire if handled improperly, but I keep mine with one empty cylinder just as a precaution.
@dewayneweaver2744
@dewayneweaver2744 4 жыл бұрын
Patton used ivory grips. "Only a New Orleans pimp would use pearled grips."
@wizardofahhhs759
@wizardofahhhs759 3 жыл бұрын
I'm having pearl grips put on my nickle plated S&W Chief Special and have it engraved "Pimp Daddy"
@oolooo
@oolooo 3 жыл бұрын
Coming from a "man" as perverse as George Patton , that is a compliment . Mother of Pearl is always better than natural Ivory .Elephants are worth far more than Patton's fragile Ego .
@BigLisaFan
@BigLisaFan 3 жыл бұрын
@@oolooo Times have changed since Patton's day thank goodness. Ivory belongs to the elephants.
@oolooo
@oolooo 3 жыл бұрын
@@BigLisaFan Precisely .Anyone who uses actual Ivory nowadays is a savage .
@carlosgarcia5540
@carlosgarcia5540 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha good one!
@chiefjoe8655
@chiefjoe8655 5 жыл бұрын
As a single action affecionado, this is an excellent video. I will share it with my brothers. Thank you and stay safe.
@the2ndamendmentwasntasugge463
@the2ndamendmentwasntasugge463 5 жыл бұрын
This couldn’t have came along at a better time. I just watched the quick and the dead and really want a good SAA
@josephcarr2742
@josephcarr2742 4 жыл бұрын
Ubertis the one, I have two. They are so close to what the colt was.
@koDaffi
@koDaffi 4 жыл бұрын
What did you wind up with? Gotta love the gun store scene in that movie. 1 of my all time favorite scenes. That and when he duels Ace calling him out for taking the credit of all his kills.
@geraldmahle9833
@geraldmahle9833 4 жыл бұрын
@@josephcarr2742 Absolutely. I foolishly sold my Uberti to a gun store. It had the Colt-type black grips with a rampant Colt. I got $350 for it. I only had about $300 in it. Realized later the cranky old man (of long experience) thought it was a Colt. Tell you anything?
@zerofail.455
@zerofail.455 2 жыл бұрын
Great overview. I've owned a Ruger Vaquero for about 25 years but it's just been a safe queen while I've done the majority of my shooting with modern semi autos. Now that I've recently retired, I've developed a new interest in the SA revolvers. I just bought two Taylor Ubertis over the last few months and I absolutely love them. I'm learning all I can about the history of the guns and your video is a great bit of info.
@thellreed6
@thellreed6 3 жыл бұрын
I was Armourer and gun coach on that fun film. We used Cimarron guns restocked and refinished with action jobs.
@therealhawkeyeii7888
@therealhawkeyeii7888 4 жыл бұрын
Patton had ivory grips on his SAA, not pearl.
@Bruh..669
@Bruh..669 2 жыл бұрын
He probably just made a mistake, both are very pretty and make for great grip designs
@firebuff7514
@firebuff7514 5 жыл бұрын
Patton's saa had ivory grips not pearl.
@cwbristow
@cwbristow 5 жыл бұрын
Only a pimp in a cheap New Orleans whorehouse with carry a pistol with pearl grips.
@maximilianfranz2158
@maximilianfranz2158 5 жыл бұрын
@@cwbristow wtf no. My grandfather owned a Walther pocket pistol with pearl grips. His father bought it in 1915. Unfortunately the gun doesn't exist anymore.
@cwbristow
@cwbristow 5 жыл бұрын
@@maximilianfranz2158 I was quoting Patton...
@maximilianfranz2158
@maximilianfranz2158 5 жыл бұрын
@@cwbristow Really?
@denisdegamon8224
@denisdegamon8224 5 жыл бұрын
During the war Patton was asked about those pearl grips and he responded " Only a New Orleans Pimp would have pearl grips on his pistol, these are ivory grips"
@ronschramm9163
@ronschramm9163 4 жыл бұрын
I have used Uberti SAA clones for CAS. After thousands of rounds,, they proved to be sturdy. I never had any work done on them, and they became smoother over time. There was no undo wear on the ratchets or cones. They are good, solid revolvers, and at less cost than Rugers or Colts, they are a value product.
@greeneking77
@greeneking77 3 жыл бұрын
I was just curious do any of the CAS shooter use 44-40 for revolvers or is it mostly 45 long colt chamberings?
@ronschramm9163
@ronschramm9163 3 жыл бұрын
@@greeneking77 A large number use .38 Special, loaded to the required lower 750 fps. A few of the authentic shooters used the .44-40. A lot of it has to do with cost. A 2 day weekend match of 10 stages per day could run 200 rounds of pistol, 200 rifle, and upwards of 200 12 gauge. If you shoot every month, then are multiplying those numbers by 12, at least. Not to mention practicing in between. As far as .45LC, I would estimate maybe 1/8th of the shooters I ran into in over the 30 years I have been involved in the sport, used it. I made the switch in the early 2000s. But, for a practical reason: I was living in Alaska, and I used one of my pistols for a field gun for bears, backing up my 12 gauge.
@trsgringo
@trsgringo 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronschramm9163 Did you switch from .38 Special to .45 Colt or the other way around? What ammo did you use for bears?
@ronschramm9163
@ronschramm9163 2 жыл бұрын
@@trsgringo I started out with .38 Special, and went up to .45 LC. Bear loads were 230 grain Remington JHP hunting rounds.
@NewsNowCommunity
@NewsNowCommunity Жыл бұрын
Pearl grips? Only a New Orleans pimp would put Pearl grips on his revolver. Pattons grips were (are) Ivory.
@yulusleonard985
@yulusleonard985 4 жыл бұрын
That Uberti pin is part of the safety mechanism. They call it "Cylinder Base Pin Safety". You wont be able to fire if you push the pin further because it will always block the hammer.
@TommygunNG
@TommygunNG 3 жыл бұрын
How easy is it to switch from "Safe" to "Fire" and back?
@mherod51
@mherod51 4 жыл бұрын
One of the absolute best single action videos I've ever seen! You know the gun inside & out, you don't stumble in your explanations about parts & the guns operation because you know it. So many KZbinrs will make a video without even knowing what the 1st detent on the hammer radius is or can even tell you what's happening as you cock the gun. Just a great video!
@CAUSELESSREBEL
@CAUSELESSREBEL 3 жыл бұрын
I own a Uberti/Cimarron in .45 Colt. I like it a lot. So much so that I bought a lever carbine, 1892?!?, Winchester clone. Both firearms shoot well and are reasonably accurate. The carbine I had taken courtesy out to about 150. But it really works best between 50 and 100 yards. I use the revolver out to about 25 yards or so. Fun firearms. I enjoy your channel a lot.
@Shot_Gunner
@Shot_Gunner 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video here. I’ve been on the fence as to which one to buy. As a Colt 1911 collector I want the original Colt SAA but man are they pricey and rightfully so. It looks like a Cimmaron is in my near future. 🤠👍🏼
@0BRAINS0
@0BRAINS0 2 жыл бұрын
Craig at cimarron will take care of you, guy knows his stuff. Well worth the wait.
@therealhawkeyeii7888
@therealhawkeyeii7888 4 жыл бұрын
My 1980s purchased Cimarron was marketed under the designation "Cattleman." They must have stopped using that designation since then.
@rezlogan4787
@rezlogan4787 3 жыл бұрын
.38-40 is a massively underrated cartridge. I would get a replica chambered in it if I thought I could find the ammo. I also can’t abide choosing less than .45 in a Peacemaker.
@rayfeltz8477
@rayfeltz8477 5 жыл бұрын
I heard someone say that uberti did too good of a job of replicating the old colts and that they’re delicate. I also heard that they’re made of newer better materials and stronger not weaker. What do you think or know?
@MarksmanTV
@MarksmanTV 5 жыл бұрын
Ray Feltz Actually, the originals are very durable in my opinion. I believe Uberti did a good job of recreating the Colt SAA. They are used very commonly in the cowboy SASS competitions and hold up quite well.
@rayfeltz8477
@rayfeltz8477 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@denisdegamon8224
@denisdegamon8224 5 жыл бұрын
@@MarksmanTV Actually the bad rap given only had to due with a pretty typical bolt/trigger spring failing...a very cheap and easy fix with Wolf spring steel coil spring replacement. As for being strong, the Italian proof house uses a higher psi for testing than American SAMMI spec's. The standard US max pressure for 45 colt is 14,000 psi and the Europeans test on upwards of 20,000 psi. Now they still only recommend the standard US pressures for safety reasons. So to answer your question, yes quite strong. This still is not as strong as the old large frame Ruger Vaquero's.
@453421abcdefg12345
@453421abcdefg12345 4 жыл бұрын
Dennis Degamon: You are confusing proof pressure with service pressure, the 20,000 is 1.3 times the service pressure for European proof, so the service pressure is about the same, never shoot proof pressure cartridges in a gun.
@cloycespears9632
@cloycespears9632 4 жыл бұрын
@John S Pietta's are not junk, I own one and it is a fine weapon.
@jamesgunter9100
@jamesgunter9100 5 жыл бұрын
I own two Uberti made Cimarron SAA's. The cylinder bushing in both of them are removable. A Pietta made Cimarron SAA I once owned had a cylinder bushing that was fixed. The Pietta had some serious problems, and I returned it, never to buy another one. The Uberti ones are really nice. I'm certainly keeping them!
@johnsaia9739
@johnsaia9739 3 жыл бұрын
Correct, I remove mine all the time.
@davejones6006
@davejones6006 2 жыл бұрын
Love my Pietta…
@mikemccauley8089
@mikemccauley8089 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry I’ve just now subscribed, been watching your videos on KZbin on Roku and not logged in so subscribed on my phone. Stores like yours are really the backbone of the Gun world, good friend of mine has a gun store in Greer SC, been in business few years more and I buy 95% of my stuff from him, yeah I might could save a few dollars if I shop online but all in all he’s very competitive, he has 2 full time and 2 part time so it’s important to support local, it supports more than the owner. They do it right like it appears you do, I look forward to going there, we have built a relationship and it’s fun to go in, see what’s new in the used selection, it’s awesome! And like you they don’t feel like you are doin them a favor when you walk in, they are friendly, courteous and very helpful, if we loose the small gun shops it will be a sad day. Keep up the good work, gun store wise and KZbin wise!
@MarksmanTV
@MarksmanTV 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! I appreciate you support of us small retail guys - its customers like you that help us stay in business. I hope you are able to come in and see us when you are in the area. Thanks again!
@donnyone-eye8726
@donnyone-eye8726 4 жыл бұрын
VERY informative. Thank you.
@trsgringo
@trsgringo 5 жыл бұрын
Based on your description of the feel of the action on the 1st gen Colt from 1904 it sounds like it was not reworked, but an original action from the hay day of Colt.
@trsgringo
@trsgringo 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiritualawakenings6251 My comment is based on personal experience handling many original Colts from that period, probably much more experience than the person who made this video. The characteristics of the action that he is describing are typical of an unmodified factory original Colt SAA made between 1900 and 1910.
@0BRAINS0
@0BRAINS0 2 жыл бұрын
@@trsgringo I wish my uncle were still alive, man had the largest firearms collection I've ever heard of and was a big colt fan. Wonder what my aunt is doing with all of them,he had a few pieces that belonged to John Wayne as well. My uncles name was Jim Gosnell.
@jeffreyelliott622
@jeffreyelliott622 2 жыл бұрын
@@trsgringo Yeah because my Bob Munden custom Colt 45 SAA is slick as an eels arse because it;s tricked out but before it was tight as tick on a hound dog arse so having one worked on will smooth the action out quite a bit and boy does it shoot good !!!!
@anthonyarena6580
@anthonyarena6580 4 жыл бұрын
Great informative video and all beautiful pistols. Especially the Colt. Thanks for posting!
@johntaylor1310
@johntaylor1310 5 жыл бұрын
Patton had ivory grips not pearl
@MarksmanTV
@MarksmanTV 5 жыл бұрын
Freudian slip - thanks for the correction :)
@jimreed6875
@jimreed6875 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed. He stated that a pearl handled pistol was only for a lady or a pimp in a New Orleans whorehouse.
@75bbrown
@75bbrown 5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, the only thing I saw that you didnt mention when discussing the cylinder pin on the Uberti is that the extra notch actually functions as a safety when put all the way in, and does not let the hammer to fall forward enough to allow the firing pinto strike the primer.
@mherod51
@mherod51 4 жыл бұрын
@@spiritualawakenings6251 What 75 is referring to is that original Ubertis had the Colt mechanics, but there is NO extra detent on the hammer radius. The import guns all have longer cylinder pins devised as a safety feature so that in some other reality you can load & carry 6rds safely without a fixed firing pin down on a primer. The other thing that Uberti has done is come up with a "Cattleman 2" version which has a hammer transfer bar (floating firing pin) that does allow for the safe carry of 6rds. Unlike a Ruger Vaquero 1 & 2, all functions are the same EXCEPT for the detents or notches in the hammer radius; there are now 3 instead of 4 because they lost the 1st click which was the safety which is no longer needed AND it did move the trigger further into the center of the trigger guard. As a purist, I won't own or buy a Ruger or a Uberti Cattleman 2; I want the original Colt mechanical design.
@mherod51
@mherod51 4 жыл бұрын
@@spiritualawakenings6251 back in the '80s I owned real Colts, but sold em for a car.....anyway those guns and my current Piettas are all tuned for thumbing fast draw by Bob James in Phoenix AZ. In addition to the tuning, Bob typically cuts the cylinder pins to Colt length for purely aesthetic appearance reasons. While I could but don't make these my carry-guns, I wouldn't load 6rds anyway, so the closer they are to Colts, the better. I do a train robbery here in southeast Missouri playing the part of Jesse James. Admittedly, it's more of a Hollywood cultural perception of the James Gang, but everyone relates to & recognizes that "Colt" revolver. Personally, I'm a Pietta man for many reasons; Uberti makes a 4 5/8" while a Pietta makes a correct 4 3/4", and the fit & finish of a Pietta seems a bit nicer to me, and finally the Pietta actions seems smoother than a standard Uberti. Just my preference.
@francisgarner1751
@francisgarner1751 19 күн бұрын
Sir I have a GERMANY LA'S DEPUTY SAA 357mag 5 1/2 Inc. Barell serial number 3027 given to me in 1966 it still fires well . Any information would be great THANKS 👍🏿🎯
@errcdes
@errcdes 5 жыл бұрын
Rollin White apparently did contract work for Colt’s and developed five patents around 1855, including Patent 12648 which was for an "Improvement in Repeating Fire-arms" Whitw approached Colt’s with his bored-through cylinder and was turned down due to problems (White used a paper cartridge resulting in chain-fires, among other issues). The next year, White signed an agreement granting Smith & Wesson the exclusive use of his patent for boring through the chambers, but not the rest of the patent. White retained a royalty rate of 25 cents for every revolver. Smith & Wesson developed White’s patent into a working revolver by coming up with the .22 rimfire cartridge utilizing a metal case containing the priming compound and black powder with the bullet seated in the end, eliminating the chain-fire problem. Smith & Wesson did not invent the bored-through cylinder, they found a way to make it useable.
@therealhawkeyeii7888
@therealhawkeyeii7888 4 жыл бұрын
My 4.75" Cimarron Cattleman has an ejection rod housing that's flush with the end of the barrel. They must have changed that since then, at Uberti.
@MinimalistOutdoors
@MinimalistOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Mine does too
@Dimitrius001
@Dimitrius001 11 ай бұрын
Definitely one of the better SAA videos out there. I will add though that Patton would've taken umbrage with you stating that his gun had pearl handled grips. They were actually ivory. According to Patton, only a New Orleans pimp would carry a gun with pearl handled grips lol. At least as spoken by his character played by George C. Scott in the movie.
@briant9723
@briant9723 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the 41Ic I have a 1st gen 1881 saa in 41lc
@steveferris663
@steveferris663 Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry; but, I just can’t watch this due to numerous errors! STOP SAYING SCHOFIELD! It wasn’t invented until 1875! If you are talking about the Model 3 … 1869 in the heeled bullet, 44 S&W American! 1870 for the internal bullet, 44 Russian! OBTW, the Colt 1872 Open Top in 44 Henry Flat was the handgun rejected by the US Army trials!
@kennardjohnson7875
@kennardjohnson7875 5 ай бұрын
When the US army bought Schofield they supplied 45 sw ammo even for the colt,after the issues with ammunition mix-up. The Schofield was a supior to the colt in every way, but colts were cheaper.
@tonelar415
@tonelar415 Жыл бұрын
didn know the .44-40 predated the .45 colt also schofields weren’t accepted by the military at the same time as the SAA (S&W wasn’t accepted until 1875)
@markr5132
@markr5132 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thank you so much for making this! You gave me just the information I have been wanted to know.
@johnpalmer7272
@johnpalmer7272 8 ай бұрын
I have a Uberti 45. Looked a several Taylors. They didn't have a safety notch on the hammer. Don't know if they're all like that. I didn't like them. Do own an early 2nd model Colt 45.
@tomallen6073
@tomallen6073 5 ай бұрын
My understanding they have changed the actions in the newer uberti’s to a 3 click, not good IMO, I have an Evil Roy and it is a 4 click. Matters to me,
@billclifton8400
@billclifton8400 Жыл бұрын
Some false info here in regards to the schofield being dropped because of ammo, etc. They actually issued a Colt Government cartridge that would work in either. Partly also because it was found not many could shoot a full house 40 grain BP load well. If anyone has ever fired a 250 grain lead bullet on top of a black powder load like that you would know that it's a stout round. Recoil being near a 44 mag in a more modern heavier gun like a blackhawk.
@hotwheel6663
@hotwheel6663 3 жыл бұрын
For the money you can not beat the Uberti, closet thing to a Colt.
@jim8684
@jim8684 10 ай бұрын
Patton carried ivory grips, not pearl grips. He likened pearl grips to something a brothel owner would carry.
@nicholaswalter9751
@nicholaswalter9751 Ай бұрын
Patton would never have used pearl on his carry. Good article though.
@wintonwright4244
@wintonwright4244 6 ай бұрын
That didn't carry a Single Action Army with pearl grips he said Pearl grips for like a w****
@james44mag31
@james44mag31 4 жыл бұрын
It's my understanding that Taylor fine-tunes the guns that come through their business.
@johnsaia9739
@johnsaia9739 3 жыл бұрын
True on many models and they send reps over to Uberti to inspect quality too, they just don't insist on the serifs in the rollmarks like Cimarron. I know the Taylors folks personally and they are great people who will stand by their product.
@gumecindogarcia1070
@gumecindogarcia1070 2 жыл бұрын
Thankfully I live out in the woods and go outside and shoot my Cattleman often enough. Just keep looking for shot shells for wildlife management deductions
@randallbyrd2458
@randallbyrd2458 Жыл бұрын
I really love the uberti. Thank you for sharing
@deweyblackwell2734
@deweyblackwell2734 2 жыл бұрын
In the movie Patton said only a pimp would have Pearl grips I think he was an a****** for that cuz I love Pearl grips
@pennsyltuckyden9823
@pennsyltuckyden9823 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, Uberti makes an excellent firearm. You can check out a quick review I have if you like.
@libertyman3072
@libertyman3072 4 жыл бұрын
🤘😜 🇫🇷🇺🇸MAGNIFIQUE🇺🇸🇫🇷✌️😜
@jeffrey4547
@jeffrey4547 7 ай бұрын
u do under stand ubirty now makes all black powder guns for colt now just colt goes through them then puts colt name on it
@jackaustin3576
@jackaustin3576 Жыл бұрын
You didn't mention the grip screw on the Colt that is missing on the Uberti....
@thomasgunne8730
@thomasgunne8730 2 жыл бұрын
Patton had ivory grips, NEVER PEARL!!!!!
@Kiyaniiofficial
@Kiyaniiofficial 2 ай бұрын
Bro plz tell me in 32long revolver comes in 1871 to 1873??
@GeorgeTaylor-hb9jp
@GeorgeTaylor-hb9jp Жыл бұрын
The clones are in general crap. Get the original, or nothing. Thy const more, but are worth it.
@fistaloconner5830
@fistaloconner5830 Жыл бұрын
Patton carried an ivory handled Colt. Look up his reply to a reporter that called them pearl.
@dannyhoopes6879
@dannyhoopes6879 2 жыл бұрын
Gen Patton had ivory grips on his SAA. Pearl was for pimps
@deweyblackwell2734
@deweyblackwell2734 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of real cowboys had Pearl grips look it up and they were not pimps
@NormanBraslow-nh2tz
@NormanBraslow-nh2tz 9 ай бұрын
There is no comparison. The Colt is real. The others are all fakes.
@johnsmith-by3yg
@johnsmith-by3yg 2 жыл бұрын
history we already know what about the parts an frame the grade of steel?
@enjoypool4052
@enjoypool4052 5 жыл бұрын
What for the life of me I can't figure out makes the Colt SAA a $2000 or higher gun, other then Colt can't figure out how to produce available numbers? Does anyone know if the Uberti finish lasts or does it dissolve into a colorless blob after a season of shooting?
@opencarry3860
@opencarry3860 5 жыл бұрын
I have many Ubertis that I have owned for many years with plenty of mileage on them. The finish holds up very well to use. It is said that the Colt's have better steel, but my Uberti's are showing no more wear as my Ruger revolvers are showing. In my Opinion, you are paying for the Colt name, not for three times the quality.
@jesspeters1213
@jesspeters1213 4 жыл бұрын
My Uberti has black finish. I keep it in a western holster so there is some wear on the finish. But I have had it about 8 years. Love it, shoots accurately and reliable.
@Drebin-8427
@Drebin-8427 3 жыл бұрын
Alot of it is the name. Modern day $2,000 SAA that are made by other companies are on par with Ubirti but the internals are machined better. A good portion of the cost is you are paying someone to spend hours with hand tools fine-tuning the internals. If you know how to use a file you can make a Ubirti feel like a $2000 gun in a few hours.
@DK-gy7ll
@DK-gy7ll 3 жыл бұрын
Colt uses real charcoal/bone color case hardening, which is more expensive than the acid wash CCH simulation Uberti uses. Also a Colt will have more parts made from machined barstock steel. Uberti uses a lot of cast parts. Functionally however there is little difference. The Colt is a better investment piece, but the Uberti is every bit as good a shooter for 1/4 the price.
@enjoypool4052
@enjoypool4052 3 жыл бұрын
@@DK-gy7ll If my choice was lowering quality to get a cheaper price I wouldn't like that very much. Colts are icinic
@stepabove2136
@stepabove2136 4 жыл бұрын
45 colt is 45 colt been buying ammo since eighties never seen a box of factory ammo with long colt on box it's just 45 colt.
@scribblerjohn1
@scribblerjohn1 4 жыл бұрын
I have in front of me a box of Fiocchi ammo labeled "45 Long Colt."
@RealPrimusPalus
@RealPrimusPalus 2 жыл бұрын
You must not be looking closely. Almost every ammunition manufacturer has "45 LC" or "45 Long Colt" on the box.
@daleweller5193
@daleweller5193 2 жыл бұрын
Patton didn’t use peal grips only pimps used peal.
@gregcampwriter
@gregcampwriter 8 ай бұрын
Patton's grips were ivory, not pearl.
@Broken_Arrow58
@Broken_Arrow58 4 жыл бұрын
Good historical account marred by too many "now"s.
@tristanramos6060
@tristanramos6060 5 жыл бұрын
In Indiana ?
@georgelewis7010
@georgelewis7010 7 ай бұрын
Could everyone stop referring to the 45 colt as long colt, there never was a 45 short colt it picked up the name because of the 45 Schofield
@edprince9079
@edprince9079 23 күн бұрын
My ubertie is chambered for .45 Long Colt
@mikef4832
@mikef4832 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this out. Nice video with great info! As someone who started with revolvers though, I cringed hard when you dry fired that old colt to test the trigger pull weight. I'm sure its been done before to it in the century it has been around, but I just don't like seeing it LOL. I used to have an old Uberti that I got second hand for cheap. Someone had worked on the action so that it was smooth as butter and had put so many rounds through it that the barrel was basically almost shot out. Even came with a spare 45 ACP cylinder, which I actually ended up using less than you would think.
@icarusflight2396
@icarusflight2396 4 жыл бұрын
I cringed when he did that.
@geraldscott4302
@geraldscott4302 2 жыл бұрын
While I wouldn't do it with mine, it doesn't really hurt anything to dry fire a center fire gun. That only applies to rimfire guns and a very few others. The Colt SAA is not one of those. If there is no round in the chamber, there is nothing there for the firing pin to hit.
@007Chancellor
@007Chancellor 2 жыл бұрын
@@geraldscott4302 True....and not. lol MOST center fire firearms will not be damaged by dry firing. However - the SAA can be damaged over time. When the firing pin is not impacting a primer, the hammer itself smacks against the frame and, over time and with repeated strikes, both the hammer and the frame can be damaged. Snap caps in a SAA are a really good idea for dry firing them.
@Deep.Purple
@Deep.Purple 6 ай бұрын
Really don't. like Uberti....
@HotZTrain
@HotZTrain 9 ай бұрын
General Patton's Colt SAA had ivory stocks, not pearl.
@_D4N3
@_D4N3 5 жыл бұрын
Are 44-40 and 44 WCF interchangable? I own a Colt SAA in 44-40, but I can't seem to find any other 44-40's in the design I want but I can in 44 WCF. So, if I find a 44 WCF a like I want would the 44-40 rounds work in both (44-40 and 44 WCF) revolvers?
@MarksmanTV
@MarksmanTV 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, 44-40 and 44WCF are the same thing. WCF means Winchester Center Fire. Where as 44-40 means 44 caliber and 40 grains of black powder. Both are the same round.
@_D4N3
@_D4N3 5 жыл бұрын
@@MarksmanTV WOW! What a fast response. Thanks for the info, you've helped me open up more options. Great videos! Great knowledge! Keep it up :)
@errcdes
@errcdes 5 жыл бұрын
James MarksmanTV touches on an interesting issue; that being the somewhat “pissy” relations between Colt’s and Winchester. One story goes that Winchester approached Colt’s to ask if they could chamber their new1873 rifle in .45 Colt. Supposedly, Mrs. Sam Colt rejected the request.
@errcdes
@errcdes 5 жыл бұрын
James correction: You bring up the interesting point.
@jerrychilders9760
@jerrychilders9760 4 жыл бұрын
@@_D4N3 o
@paulmorissette5863
@paulmorissette5863 Жыл бұрын
"Uberti makes nice stuff."
@enricomandragona163
@enricomandragona163 7 ай бұрын
Great Video Chris!! I happen to come from the very city Samuel Colt designed the 1873 peace maker and now i own one made in yr 2000 and never shot brand new. Pretty spot on with the history! However Schofield is pronounced Showfield!! Most magazines last year did a 150 year anniversary article on the 45!! Im proud to have bought mine during the milestone!! Btw any chance you want to sell your 4/3.4" ? 🙏
@thomasallen3818
@thomasallen3818 5 жыл бұрын
George Patton’s revolvers had ivory grips with his initials inlaid.
@69xxmiiikexx86
@69xxmiiikexx86 4 жыл бұрын
then go watch george patton
@JoseyWales44s
@JoseyWales44s 4 жыл бұрын
@@69xxmiiikexx86 I guess you missed the part where the presenter in the video erroneously said Patton had pearl grips on his SAA.
@doteman92
@doteman92 4 жыл бұрын
@@JoseyWales44s Patton said that only a New Orleans pimp will have pearl handles.
@JoseyWales44s
@JoseyWales44s 4 жыл бұрын
@@doteman92 Yes, I know. I was responding to @69XxMiiikexX's apparent confusion regarding the OP's comment.
@clarkkent010
@clarkkent010 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding tutorial and information. Thank you!
@dondickerson9978
@dondickerson9978 3 ай бұрын
My Uberti is 45 LC and a second cylinder in 45 ACP. It shoots beautifully in both calibers.
@clarkanthony538
@clarkanthony538 Жыл бұрын
What's hard for some to visionalize, is "single action" so folks think; "gosh someone had to pull the hammer back just to fire the gun!" The reality is, so did their enemies. My point every gunfighter had to pull the hammer back to fire, 98% of all holstered weapons were single action. So it's all equal back in the day.
@jungleno.
@jungleno. Жыл бұрын
You mean hammer...not trigger.
@clarkanthony538
@clarkanthony538 Жыл бұрын
@jungleno4151 you're so right I'm embarrassed I said that. Thanks for pointing that out gheeze and I fancy myself a gun guy. Morale of the story don't drink when you post!
@MaverickTangent
@MaverickTangent 5 жыл бұрын
The longer base pin on the Uberti is technically a safety, this allows it to be imported as part of the "points" system. If the uberti base pin is shoved all the way in, it prevents the hammer from falling completely. The hammer should have a little flap on it to impact with, but sometimes ppl swap them out for real colt hammers or shorter correct style cylinder pins.
@johnsaia9739
@johnsaia9739 3 жыл бұрын
Or just cut the Uberti base pin to the Colt length and it is done.
@outspokengenius
@outspokengenius Жыл бұрын
Only semi automatic pistols have to meet the points system!
@Helm-w1q
@Helm-w1q Жыл бұрын
When you hear the four clicks of a Colt SAA as the hammer is cocked its great to hear the letters Colt spelled out so clearly. On the other hand when you pull the hammer back on a replica all the clicks spell is FAKE. Always Colt.
@libertywarrior22691
@libertywarrior22691 9 ай бұрын
Cimarron uses both Uberti and pietta depending on which model of Cimarron firearm you're looking for. Cimarron models beginning with PP like PP 401, pp405 and PP 415 are specifically pietta made and are traditional 4 click authentic internal Colt clones, some piettas also have transfer bar actions depending on model. All others are generally Uberti, a few of which also have four click internals but also have What's called the safety hammer, an additional component inside the action with a rod that travels through the center of the hammer engaging the back of the firing pin pushing it forward when the trigger is depressed fully to the rear. Generally speaking, the first generation single action Colts were updated in 1896 with a slightly wider front blade sight and wider notch rear sights in the top strap as well as a half moon finger mount for the ejector rod along with the spring-loaded catch for the bass rod as you mentioned.
@jamieeisenhower1560
@jamieeisenhower1560 Жыл бұрын
Ruger single action
@22Phanatic
@22Phanatic Жыл бұрын
Pimps Love Pearl !
@flintlockhomestead460
@flintlockhomestead460 2 жыл бұрын
The Schofield was not the same as the #3. It was a later development of it. The Schofield was not developed until 1875..
@patrickkelly7838
@patrickkelly7838 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry the S&W was Not chambered in 44-40 due to the case length. The same reason S&W didn't offer the #3 in 45 Colt.
@jimh6763
@jimh6763 2 жыл бұрын
Cimarron actually sends American made internals to be put in their guns made by Uberti. They also send them original guns, to copy more accurately. Cimarron also has them make guns that arent originally on their website exclusively for them.
@johnzajac9849
@johnzajac9849 2 жыл бұрын
Have you compared the Colt SAA to the SAA made by Standard Manufacturing?
@jonkwarsick2813
@jonkwarsick2813 2 жыл бұрын
so to explain the extra groove and length of the base pin you will find when you push the pin to that second groove your gun will not fire as its a safety.
@coldsoul4416
@coldsoul4416 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question for anybody who’s had experience with these firearms my hand is 3 inches wide and 6 inches long in your opinion do you think my hand would be too small to use a single action ?
@RU2AIM
@RU2AIM 3 жыл бұрын
Bought my "Evil Roy" directly from Evil Roy himself (Gene Pearcey) and have to say he's as nice a gentleman as he is a knowledgeable gentleman.
@VirginianSpencer
@VirginianSpencer 3 жыл бұрын
Uberti cylinder pin - the second "notch" is a hammer block 'safety'. No mention of the bullseye ejector button.
@davejones6006
@davejones6006 2 жыл бұрын
The two grooves in the base pin are cause you can shove the pin in farther to not allow hammer to contact primer. Patton’s grips were ivory not pearl. He said pearl was for pimps.
@billclifton8400
@billclifton8400 Жыл бұрын
That dual notches on the base pin is considered the safety on the Uberti. That was the way of getting by with the old style action yet still saying the gun has a safety.
@phillfoote
@phillfoote 3 жыл бұрын
sometime in 1880s there was issued to military only the .45 government meant to fit both schofield and colt
@jayclark7237
@jayclark7237 2 жыл бұрын
I know at least one manufacturer made the basepin longer, with an extra groove. It could be seated more deeply for storage and disable the pistol. This could serve as a locking mechanism.
@michaeldeblase5195
@michaeldeblase5195 2 жыл бұрын
General Patton single action had ivory grips remember in the movie when he was asked about his Pearl grips
@laptopdragon
@laptopdragon 3 жыл бұрын
@ 15:23 you show both center pins/cylinder pins and there is a difference with an extra cut on the uberty. afaik that extra cut is for a safety. depress the pin release button and instead of pulling it out, push it in one click and let the button go. Now the hammer or firing pin will not rest on a live round. I don't know if it's in the manual or not but that is a little secret safety that few people know about. Also, you don't need to use the cowboy load, just be sure to pull that pin out one click or it won't fire.
@charliechilson716
@charliechilson716 9 ай бұрын
My lord, you know a lot about this, very helpful, thank you sir.
@Rodgerwilco91
@Rodgerwilco91 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of getting a Denix replica SAA, but I think I’m going to go with Uberti after watching this!
@matthouse8499
@matthouse8499 4 жыл бұрын
Cool video , Michael arms was another importer bought one years ago nice pistol thank you 👍it was a cattlemen
@scottscheuerman6170
@scottscheuerman6170 3 жыл бұрын
Colt on the first generation guns called the 44-40 guns the colt frontier six shooter so they did have there own name in that caliber
@bthompson1767
@bthompson1767 3 жыл бұрын
Uberti could be the closet thing to a colt if it didn’t have the safety trigger
@TommygunNG
@TommygunNG 3 жыл бұрын
Fortunately, it DOES have something of a safety trigger. Historical detail needs to give way to such basic modern safety.
@SuperWellhung1
@SuperWellhung1 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting remarks about Cimarron selecting their firearms.
@undreahankins8194
@undreahankins8194 Жыл бұрын
Still an excellent presentation. Thankyu
@eddieabernathy5998
@eddieabernathy5998 3 жыл бұрын
The second notch on the pin is also a hammer safety
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