Battle of the Zeros

I took a look at the three main small form factor SBC. They all have the same form factor as the Raspberry Pi Zero. Let’s see how the Raspberry Pi Zero 2W, the Radxa Zero 3W, and the Orange Pi Zero 2W compare in a few different categories.
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[@radxa-computer]

Thanks for the objective review, Radxa will improve the software and documentation. Starting with the Radxa Imager tool first.

[@makerbymistake]

That would be great! Keep me posted on progress!

[@SchoolforHackers]

@Radxa - good to see you’re watching. I really like your hardware, but weak support has kept me from trying a project with your boards. I’ll keep an eye out!

[@radxa-computer]

@@SchoolforHackers I am sorry Radxa team is small at the moment and we are catching up, we will become an official Armbian partner to serve our users better.

[@SchoolforHackers]

@@radxa-computer That’s excellent to see! Thanks

[@leadfarmer5563]

The fact you commented is great. I’ve been on the fence for a radxa zero 2 or 3. I might now.

[@pnakek]

My lamp broke. Now my room is de-lighted. (Great video, thank you!)

[@williamhart4896]

The Raspberry pi zero needs to be updated to 2gb ram add a couple bucks to the price and most people would agree with the price increase

[@TheAppleFreak]

They want to, but the problem is that there aren't RAM modules that fit in the specific form factor that the Pi Foundation is looking for. This isn't a problem on the other boards because they put components on the bottom, but the Pi has a smooth bottom which complicates things.

[@idontatalya242]

THANK YOU!!! I've been looking for a head-to-head comparison on these specific boards! Much appreciated! 👍

[@jokeeffe007]

"Delighted" I liked the scientific approach to the ratings. Thank you!

[@makerbymistake]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@registromalplena2514]

Delighted but I feel I need to watch this over again with a notepad so that I can sort of get my head around all the information that you covered without charts 😉

[@PunsRDum]

delighted to see more sbc content/comparisons

[@HankBarta]

I asked on the raspberry pi forum about why the current versions of the OS were not listed. I got no answer and my post was removed without explanation. I guess it's not something they want to talk about. You have download the current image from the web site and then can choose it from the Imager. The other factor to consider is the community that can support the device. Despite problems with the Raspberry Pi forums and the occasional toxicity of the Raspberry Pi Reddits, I think the Raspberry products still win here. Delighted. :D

[@dragoncracker]

delighted that you were consistent in calling it eemc instead of emmc

[@makerbymistake]

Thanks for the feedback. I'm saying emmc but because of my accent it might sound like eemc to you

[@yasirrakhurrafat1142]

​@@makerbymistakelol. You alright.

[@ashaphter9738]

Delighted to see a good review of these options.

[@Autotrope]

Was delighted to see these three compared

[@Mobile_Dom]

i was truly delighted to see how unbioaased this was and that you arent afraid to just crap on the pi where it deserves to be crapped on, namely, the performance.

[@bobclem-mh3ot]

Thank you, I was wondering about these boards. I was delighted.

[@petercollins797]

I'm delighted to find a new maker channel with great content!

[@makerbymistake]

Thanks!

[@jefffehervari7575]

Delighted to watch this video. Super informative thanks. Rarely is the processing power the most important factor for me - documentation and ease of use for the win.

[@makerbymistake]

For sure!

[@stevehauser7486]

Delighted to have found your channel,and it was a fair comparison

[@JeffGeerling]

Delighted to read this comment 😉

[@theoldpcguy]

Delighted to see the comparison, the Radxa sounds best for my needs. thanks for doing my homework for me.

[@MrFunseeker57]

Delighted. I too was curious about the small small sbc's... I'm glad I chose to use my Pi zero 2 w as my home DNS only.

[@makerbymistake]

Good choice!

[@scottxiong5844]

Delighted to see the different kinds of projects that these little SBCs can be used for. Too many projects! No time!

[@BORCHLEO]

Make time

[@makerbymistake]

I hear you!

[@gregwilson825]

I’m delighted. to have found this work up. Thank You

[@HansBaier]

delighted to see a comprehensive comparisons of the boards strengths and weaknesses

[@makerbymistake]

Cheers! Thanks for watching

[@Vaskomyr]

delighted to find a new channel!

[@JoshuaMHiggins]

Excellent video, I was delighted to watch it!

[@makerbymistake]

Cheers!

[@kristakis]

Delighted to see your comparison, thank you.

[@makerbymistake]

Cheers! Thanks for watching

[@blackpepperprepper2025]

Delighted! That was a great review. I have selected the OrangePi for my future sUAS (drone) projects. The form factor, OS availability, and amount of RAM are my criteria.

[@makerbymistake]

Awesome. Would love to see a drone build

[@jacobsonhome]

I agree and am delighted with your grading and that it depends on one’s use case. I used a few Raspberry Pi Zero W’s to ‘smartify’ some UPS’s in my house using NUT. Absolutely minimal performance needed for that… just a usb connector + wifi running headless. I even found a remote iPhone monitoring app. Inexpensive and reliable. 😊

[@nlcirque]

I was delighted to see a comparison of these 3 boards. I just bought the RPi board but will have a better idea which board to pick if it doesn’t meet my needs.

[@dsy457]

It's worth pointing out the raspberry pi zero 2w has tons and tons of open source user projects and libraries to get close to the thing you want to develop without having to do all the leg work. If you get an orange pi zero 2w at this current time, you will pretty much have to build things from scratch.

[@makerbymistake]

For sure! That's what I meant by "ecosystem"

[@jannickbreunis]

Got here from the video 'Radxa X2L: Mini PC and a Pi had a BABY!' Nice haircut, very delighted when swapping back to the other video. :)

[@makerbymistake]

The hair goes through cycles, thanks ;)

[@BradClarke]

Delighted to see this comparison. Radxa boards always have great specs, but there's always something lacking elsewhere.

[@nickconnor8667]

Thanks for this content it definitely leaves me feeling delighted ,your findings are about right in my opinion but I will have to say cameras are kinda an extra I like you to build a remote control car project or something similar all with the different boards then see which one is controlled better , because these types of boards are best for automation ,robotics , or remote control practice it be cool to see which board does a better job at what they are intended for I think this would be fairest test honestly to decide which is best or at least seems more reliable

[@colintett6872]

Delighted! Thanks for a great comparison…

[@makerbymistake]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ramex958]

I am delighted to see videos like these. Very thorough with good scores. I'm considering making a wearable in the style of a pipboy. I was kinda bummed out that the zero 2 only has 512mb ram, so I'm going to do some more research on the Radxa Zero. I didn't even know this existed! Very cool video and Thanks for all the info!

[@makerbymistake]

Glad it was helpful!

[@curtiskemmerle8870]

My first impression is, I am delighted to meet you. I learned a lot from this review; Thank you.

[@frederickblosser7040]

Delighted with your comparison of the three small form factor SBC boards. I have the Raspberry Pi Zero 2W and I just got the Orange Pi Zero 2W. The Raspberry Pi has great ease of use and documentation, but average performance. The Orange Pi so far does not have hdmi output, so it is a work in progress.

[@ericyoung3183]

Thanks for the review. tell me have you heard about the Radxa NIO 12L, which is powered by the Genio processor? it's creating quite a buzz of late.

[@ericblenner-hassett3945]

" delighted " that it covered quite a few aspects of each board.

[@boneappletee6416]

I'm absolutely delighted to find another interesting KZbinr covering cool electronics! :)

[@makerbymistake]

More to come!

[@Aplysia]

I'd be interested in the radxa zero 2 pro. It seems to be a faster spec than the 3.

[@makerbymistake]

The Radxa Zero 2 Pro has a different form factor, so it didn't fit in this comparison. It has a display conector, which is nice, but it lacks in all of the same areas that the Radxa Zero 3W lacks in

[@Aplysia]

@@makerbymistake oh good to know! I assumed the 3w had the same form factor.

[@makerbymistake]

@@Aplysia The 3W has the same form factor as the Raspberry Pi Zero. The 2 Pro has a different footprint, it's wider

[@RyanFranklinWilliams]

Microlinix has a great (3rd party) Armbiam image for the Zero 2 Pro that works incredibly well and Joshua Riek has Ubuntu Desktop images for Rockchip. I don't know if he has a Radxa Zero 3W image yet, but I suspect he will as there's one for the Orange Pi 3B which runs on the same processor as the 3W and is pretty decent. The downside of both boards and to be you get the best performance out of them, at least as of now, from third party images.

[@1310up]

Delighted to discover your channel

[@rahuls7039]

Thank You for making this video. It's so elaborate, unbiased and helpful. 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@zenmaster24]

delighted to know the orange pi can be used as a desktop successfully!

[@MySoulSymphony]

I am truly delighted. Currently I am starting my journey with electronics, so I don't have specific plans, but I suppose thet Orange Pi Zero 2W will suits my needs.

[@pskouson]

This was helpful. I'm delighted that there's competition for the Raspberry Pi, but it looks like it's going to be the Pi Zero 2w for me.

[@makerbymistake]

Yeah, good to see competition

[@Flare1107]

I was so delighted to see a video comparing the boards i have just been researching for a quadruped! RPI has the best SBC base, but their boards are just mediocer now considering the technology availability like in the Nvidia jetson Orin. I really need a form factor like these or even the compute modules (comparison suggestion!?), but almost landed on the Radxa for the SoC alone. Considering how amateur my knowledge is on programming, it looks like RPIZ2W is the safest option.

[@makerbymistake]

In my opinion, for beginners, the RPi is the best option because of the amazing documentation

[@nikobellic570]

I got a couple of these in a drawer because they're cute and i deluded myself into thi king i would use them for something

[@makerbymistake]

At least the drawer is providing moral support 😜

[@superangrybrit]

I am very Delighted by the results. That 512megs truly gimps the Zero2W. It also used to lock up when pushed a little too hard. Anyway, good video! 🙂

[@makerbymistake]

Yeah, the 512 RAM doesn't help

[@g.m.fernandes3579]

This was a pretty good video, very informative!

[@makerbymistake]

Glad you liked it!

[@australai]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *📦 Introduction and Overview* - Introduction to the comparison of three small factor SBCs: Raspberry Pi Zero 2W, Radxa Zero 3W, and Orange Pi Zero 2W. - Criteria for comparison include ease of use, documentation, performance, and a bonus category for accessories. 02:13 *📝 Specifications Overview* - Detailed specifications of Raspberry Pi Zero 2W, including its price. - Introduction to Radxa Zero 3W's specs and price, followed by the specifications and pricing of the Orange Pi Zero 2W. 06:09 *🖥️ Ease of Use* - Evaluation of ease of use for Raspberry Pi Zero 2W, highlighting the ease of setup and exceptional documentation. - Analysis of Orange Pi Zero 2W's setup process, OS availability, and documentation, noting some drawbacks. - Radxa Zero 3W's ease of use discussion, mentioning its OS options, setup simplicity, but challenging documentation. 13:18 *💻 Performance and Usability* - Performance comparison based on a CPU benchmark, with Radxa Zero 3W leading, followed by Orange Pi and Raspberry Pi. - Desktop experience comparison, highlighting the superior performance of Orange Pi Zero 2W. 15:29 *🤖 Use Cases and Accessories* - Discussion of potential use cases for small factor SBCs and the importance of camera connectors for projects involving vision. - Evaluation of accessory compatibility and support, with a focus on camera module support and ecosystem. 18:58 *🏆 Conclusion and Final Scores* - Summary of scores for each board across all categories, declaring Raspberry Pi as the overall winner for its support and ease of use. - Final thoughts on choosing the right board for specific project needs, and invitation for viewer engagement.

[@apexd8921]

I was delighted and appreciate the time you invested. I have and OrangePi with 1.5Mb and the expansion board to make embedded development, easier, (Ethernet speeds things up) I had hopes of using the 24 pin pin connector in place of the 40 gpio pins for some embedded apps, but it appears to be connected to an ASIC chip which locks in the pin functions. One disappointment in the Orangepi is the lack of GPU support in all the linux distributions, maybe it works in android? The vast variety of ready to run Raspberry pi code gives that board a huge advantage for rookies who need to build on to a working code base.

[@makerbymistake]

For sure

[@irkedoff]

I think that's a fair assessment.

[@Ionevenknow361]

Delighted 👍🏾 I’m just here for the knowledge 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@Betruet]

Your video was a delight(ed) to watch. thanks for your efforts I'm still on the fence weather I should get an Orange pi I have 2 of the OG pi zero w's and I find them a bit under powered might be time for an upgrade after hearing about your desktop experience on the Orange pi

[@makerbymistake]

Glad it was helpful!

[@filthyfrankblack4067]

"I want actual documentation and nt to be hunting information down in a discord server".. 😂👏👏 Words that just hit home.

[@makerbymistake]

Right?

[@steveiliop56]

actually the rpizero 2 w supports bookworm and works just fine

[@arekx]

Looking at supported OSes by number of available images is very misleading. You should check out how fast manufacturer abandons support for their boards. For example I have "Orange Pi One" which had Ubuntu and Debian images available in ~2020. And zero updates after that. So while I have few perfectly working hardware boards none of these are usable due to lack of up to date software side (and I don't want to run old, vulnerable OSes). Raspberry Pi OS (32bit) supports ALL existing raspberry pi boards and is still updated/maintained.

[@makerbymistake]

That is a good point

[@SnakebitSTI]

1st gen Raspberry Pis still have some 3rd party distro support! To me support and cost are the important things for an SBC.

[@yurikslalom]

Thanks for the video. Would be nice to compare power draw of those modules, as it might be a crucial point for battery powered applications. Delighted to subscribe to you channel)

[@makerbymistake]

Yeah, I'll include temp and power in future comparisons

[@AceEletrute]

Do you think the results would change any if you used the Orange Pi Zero 3?

[@makerbymistake]

Not really, it has the same chip as the OP Zero 2W

[@Giantmidgetmotochannel]

I have several of all 3 of these little sbcs, I have to agree with you on most of these points. I love the the raspberry pi but that .5g of ram makes it impossible to use as a desktop, but it plays videos well, the orange pi has the best desktop feel and is great for that but none of the OS except android are able to utilize the gpu for encoding or decoding and it absolutely sucks for video playback. The radxa has gpu support for video and does ok as a desktop but for some reason is super laggy in the OS.

[@TT-it9gg]

Watch out for the temp when full load!

[@MCNOISE666]

Delighted - subbed!

[@makerbymistake]

Cheers, appreciate it!

[@jimlynch9390]

Thanks, I think this was a fair comparison.

[@lucasr4204]

Very interesting video! Delighted

[@makerbymistake]

Appreciate it!

[@Phil995511]

When is the official M.2 adapter for RPi5 finally arriving ?

[@makerbymistake]

"Soon" is all the info I have.

[@HankBarta]

@@makerbymistake It's here today!

[@HankBarta]

On April 1.

[@HankBarta]

🤣 Signed Joe King.

[@zk_6312]

I agree with most of what you said. I have both the Raspberry Pi 2w and the Orange Pi 2w. I use mostly usb cameras as I have had some issues with the cameras that use the camera connector. It could be the new camera stack though. I like both though I wish the raspberry Pi zero 2w has more memory selections. There is really no reason for them not to as their competitors do. I certainly would pay a little more for more memory. I really like the Raspberry Pi's sofware support though. No other board has this nor is the software of other companies as easy to use. I use these boards most with 3d printers so I would be installing either Octoprint or klipper. Klipper is available for any Linux computer and is easy to install using the kiauh script. Octoprint though is extremely difficult to install on anything but a Raspberry pi though I did manage to install it on a Orange Pi 3 LTS and should be a similar process for the Orange Pi Zero 2w though it will likely be difficult as it is all done manually. One thing I did not understand when you said the Raspberry Pi Zero 2w was sluggish when using the legacy OS. When I tried mine I first used the standard OS, but was so slow as to be unusable. When I switched to the Legacy OS, it actually ran fairly well. I would never use a web browser on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2w because of the fact it only has 512mb of RAM and if I did, I would not use more than one tab. I probably would not run any video files either because of the Low RAM. But other than that the Raspberry Pi Zero 2w ran okay. Still wish it had more RAM. A very bad design decision if you ask me.

[@misterklingon]

Delighted to see this, thank you. I actually (sort of) use pi zeroes as a desktop, though mainly to VNC to a Ubuntu desktop

[@Blockschrott]

I know it is complicated, but for this kind of SBC's an efficiency category would be nice, giving the fact that they most likely end up battery powered

[@makerbymistake]

I'll include power and temp in future videos. It's not the same as efficiency but it's an approximation for battery consumption

[@user-li8mn7bw2w]

Thanks for the video! If you think Radxa documentation is bad, then you haven't experienced Sipeed boards documentation😄 I recently worked with a Longan PI 3H and that's where the documentation is really terrible.

[@makerbymistake]

Yeah, documentation seems to be the Achilles heel of many SBC manufacturers

[@mattclarenzmendoza7127]

available os should include third party stuff, but overall good comparison very fair

[@justgregm7843]

I found the official orange pi OS had the kernel running in debug mode, which is a security issue. I did not change the default password. When I tried to change permissions on a system file , the default password did not work. There is a second password, unknown, for system modifications. I suspect there is backdoor access with the official OS. There is a major security issue here. Which is why the strange warning in the documentation.

[@makerbymistake]

I have only tried Debian. Yes, it doesn't look like they are too worried about security given their webpage, which includes a user forum, doesn't use https

[@Promilus1984]

Nothing starts perfect, first RPi came out after a lot of struggles. I'm delighted to see competition for hobbyists. And actual big improvement over the first "orangepi zero" many years ago. That one was disaster when it comes to support and documentation. It was only thanks to open source community and Armbian project it became somewhat usable. On the other hand RPi was almost always losing when it comes to pure processing power. Even now RK3588 based products basically obliterate Pi5, but RPi strength is easy of use, great support and documentation. Big weakness is availability of top products.

[@rosasdacosta]

Mate, what about the accessory board that the orangepi allows whereas others don't? Thank you for the video although would be great to understand your score card values. Some of the comments seemed a bit biased. Nevertheless, somewhat delighted.

[@makerbymistake]

That accessory board adds functionality that is available on on other boards as a HAT. There's a USB hub board for the Pi, there's an Ethernet board. Buttons are easily added through GPIO. I don't see it as anything special

[@rosasdacosta]

Thank you for the insight, agree with you in that case. Quite ignorant and unaware of expansion options across the board. Does the radxa also have a hat option ?

[@NNasab-pm4le]

Delighted to see a video done right.

[@makerbymistake]

Cheers!

[@DrunkSnowWhite]

Is it safe to assume Banana Pi M4 Zero is comparable to Orange Pi Zero 2W? It basically looks like a deliberate clone

[@makerbymistake]

Yeah, safe to assume it's the same. Same chip and, in turn, same features.

[@javiermontoya3018]

I would have been delighted to see a power consumption comparison while running the cpu benchmark

[@makerbymistake]

I'll definitely do that in the future

[@bassam.2023]

You can use whatever OS you want to flash to the rpi, just don't select the device. There are other ways as well. 🎉

[@makerbymistake]

Yeah, but I was looking into ease of use and having to guess that Bookworm would work on the Zero 2 W is not very intuitive. Still surprised it wasn't listed

[@Sam-qn4ly]

Realistically I feel like a pi 02w is enough performance wise for its use cases, currently have on as a discord connected field cam

[@ajtmoz]

Delighted 🎉

[@ddr874]

Delighted 😁

[@metatechnologist]

Signal processing capability (aka fliating point) for those that will be doing bare metal the A55 which the Radxa has is *significantly* better than the A53 which the others have. So beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Maybe develope on another platform making code modular then move to the radxa.

[@davidgari3240]

Delighted!

[@gothesouthway]

As a known liar, I was delighted to not watch to the end. 😉

[@makerbymistake]

I know you did ;)

[@rpihacks]

Delighted

[@makerbymistake]

Appreciate it!

[@Lurch-Bot]

Just getting into SBCs this year. Since I bought an OP5+, I will likely use their zero. One thing is for sure, I am staying away from Raspberry Pi for the most part because there is no point investing in hardware from a company that can't meet demand. Meanwhile Orange Pi has also designed a Ryzen based handheld PC to compete in that growing market because they have the capacity for forethought. They also had the good sense to give the OP5 a NPU. The RP5 seems like it should have launched about 2 years ago, based on specs. The official software for the OP5 seemed pretty crap but the enthusiast modded version of Ubuntu for RK3588(S) works fine. It is just a better machine than the RP5 anyway. Since I am planning to study cybersecurity later this year and want to get back into coding, being handheld by RPT along the way isn't really what I was looking for anyway. However, I might get a RP5 4GB to use as a firewall because it is the most cost effective and expedient solution I've found. I could just use one of my old 3rd gen i5 S series CPUs and one of several old Lenovo workstation MBs I already have but that's gonna use like 10x the power.

[@309electronics5]

Raspberry pi's were never meant to be used as a full pc and their gpio drivers and pytbon packages are easy to use and this is what all people forget the pi was meant for. I know its now more marketed towards the general user but rather use a mini pc then a sbc if you really demand things

[@buildmaker]

Pi zero 2 w - Micro USB port 😂 lol

[@nysaea]

ngl I'd be delighted to play around with an orange pi

[@morelandtech637]

delighted.

[@ChrisDoms]

Delightedful video.

[@vinny142]

"two os'es is the bare minimum" I wonder how many of us have actually ever used more than one though.

[@makerbymistake]

I meant as options. I don't expect people to run more than one OS.

[@savirien4266]

RPI docs are fine for basic users. After all these years they still lack driver support for the full functionality of the chips they use.

[@makerbymistake]

Yeah, it's good to have the basics so you can figure out the rest. Other SBCs don't even have the basics

[@GoogleDothBetray]

Delight(ful)ed video.

[@treymiller5736]

You can’t use a browser on 512mb of ram. Those things burn some 800mb when they try to fully compress so the raspberry zero never even had a chance.

[@ristopoho824]

I. Agree with pretty much everything you said. I would give Radxa even less points for the documentation but, the top comment right now is from them saying they will look into it. Promises mean nothing but them watching this and bothering to comment is better than nothing. It's an ongoing project. And. Well. The board would be so dang good if the documentation was in check.

[@makerbymistake]

Yeah, it's nice that they are seeing the responses but would like to see actual improvements in documentation

[@iblackfeathers]

delighted. i've been disappointed with the rpi zero 2w's performance over the years with portable projects. got the orange pi zero 2w 1.5yrs ago since it looks good on paper but disappointed with the docmentation and lack of any proper support that i couldn't do anything with it. even with usb c it still does not have any proper options of cases and cannot fit into any rpi zero 2w case because of the usb port opening even though the form factor is pretty much the same. plus, as you have stated about google drive, it is sketchy place to download questionable os isos which could have malware, because china tends to do that with default os software. there still needs to be a good board option with the form factor of the rpi zero 2w with wide support and good case options to fit a variety of potential projects. disappointed there is nothing like that around. many times the only option is probably a used smart phone or a larger sbc.

[@makerbymistake]

All valid points!

[@Harles79]

Delighted.

[@soonheng1577]

delighted

[@utvikler-no]

thanks ... watched until the end ..

[@makerbymistake]

What's the secret word? 😜

[@jimmyscott5144]

I love the video so far. Just found this channel so that's a sub from me!

[@makerbymistake]

Awesome, thank you!

[@cthoadmin7458]

Available software, documentation, eco system, and support in my opinion, always trump impressive hardware specs. With Raspberry Pi, just about whatever you can think off, someone will have done it, or something sufficiently similar, so it can be adapted. Whatever problem you are having, someone will had had it before and share the solution. This is why I'm always reluctant to move away from Raspberry Pi and Arduino.

[@scottclark7559]

Go Griz!

[@makerbymistake]

Nice!