Battle of the ZOHDs - Dart XL vs Talon GT

Battle of the ZOHDs - Dart XL vs Talon GT Rebel. alon GT Rebel has Matek F405 Wing board, Dart XL has F411 Wing board.. Longer control horns fitted on the Talon GT makes iNav configuration easier. Both Auto trim and Auto tuned.
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[@jendabekCZ]

It would be nice to have some comparison with Nano Talon too :)

[@oldflyingman7581]

The final "Subscribe" is just great!!!!! Hats off!

[@AndrewNewton]

I'm having fun with the Sub clips. Can really be creative with a 5 sec idea

[@gazzabyerun9556]

Thank you Mate! Semper Fi ☠ 🇺🇸🐾🐾🐾🖖

[@JakeBullit123]

Would be interesting to see if the GT flew any more efficiently with a streamlined front end more like the x-uav mini talon instead of that bluff nose.Great video,off to smoke me a kipper skipper ;)

[@AndrewNewton]

I'll do that Ace. Carved foam nose cone, yes

[@leemaples1806]

I`m guessing the Dart is more stable due to the vortex generators on top of the leading edge of the wings. They really help to keep it stable especially at low air speeds.

[@AndrewNewton]

Yes I think so, swept forward wings and more area too.

[@LiftVector]

I just picked up a Talon GT on Banggood for $66.99 on a flash deal. I know I'm late to the party but I'm looking forward to the kit. Thanks for the insight on the craft!

[@AndrewNewton]

Bargain! It is a very good model. Easy to work on.

[@farkhodkhikmatov4738]

same hahaha. ardupilot auto mode here i come

[@btbplanevids]

Nice comparison - thanks!

[@dagobb]

Great comparison!

[@kenchen704]

Can’t help but envy this gorgeous field you have to fly at lol. Excellent stuff

[@AndrewNewton]

Yes we are lucky, thanks Ken

[@alexkerr306]

Master Class..Cheers.

[@jamiearmitage2002]

Andrew this us what I want to watch! Loving the Zohd's Keep it up fella!!!

[@AndrewNewton]

Sweet Bro

[@EnglishTurbines]

Try increasing the permitted roll and pitch angles if you want it more responsive in Angle Mode Andrew.

[@pimimo]

Excellent..!!! 👍🏻👊🏻

[@christopherstarzyk9209]

Andrew have you fiddled with iNav autolaunch mode? It's absolutely brilliant for flying wings. Makes them easier(and fun) to launch! Not sure if on the DartXL there is a place underneath to get a good grip to chuck it, but you can always sidearm it while holding a wing. Cheers!

[@AndrewNewton]

Yes I used to set it up on all my iNav planes, but not anymore. For big heavy planes and wings it makes launching much more difficult. Easier to launch with power assisting. I have also seen a Ranger 1600 hit the ground then race across the landing field until the pilot could cancel Launch mode.

[@julianhumphrey4843]

@@AndrewNewton I had the same thing with my inav AR900, it tried to get in the air but ended up on the ground, i do have auto permanently on so i false start it and send it up

[@MrZeek101]

great comparison always a great review . Sir Andrew which would you consider the better of the two ? take care

[@AndrewNewton]

Talon GT for me, I like the agility and efficiency

[@Elias-Flyingbros]

Hi Andrew, I got a Dart XL nose was damaged in a bad take off. They sell the nose to the Talon but not the Dart and wanted to know if it's the same item? Thanks in advance.

[@AndrewNewton]

I don't have either any more but from memory they were the same

[@Elias-Flyingbros]

Oh yeah you looked at Kmart gliders,? I have been converting them to planks with motors and now making something for the slope based off your LidL Glider.

[@AndrewNewton]

@@Elias-Flyingbros I have 2 unopened ANKO gliders right next me kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2nGf6pqp6-Ud6s

[@properlytwisted2172]

Awesome review! I'll take one with the Dart's aerodynamics,the Talon's strength,and..a healthy dose of Your experience..:)

[@AndrewNewton]

Wouldn't it be wonderful to pick and choose then have the foam printer create your desired design.

[@properlytwisted2172]

@@AndrewNewton Hopefully one of these days..;)

[@saiki8777]

Mr Newton I am your fan I would like to build a twin boom rc plane. Is it a good beginners plane (4ch)

[@AndrewNewton]

Yes good choice. Make it a pusher (but watch out for fingers in prop) and add dihedral wing tips like the Bruce-Ler

[@saiki8777]

@Andrew Newton I have built a polyhedral wing for my pusher is it good choice or should I make a dihedral as you said. Thanks in advance

[@cgaxtreme10]

Great video and Job! Mr. Newton, what fpv camera do you use in this video? Thanks for sharing

[@AndrewNewton]

Runcam Sparrow

[@cgaxtreme10]

@@AndrewNewton Thanks!

[@GroundControlRC]

Nice comparison noting the pros and cons. It looks like you're really sweeping up the Subscription ;-) Well done ;-) See you in the Air!

[@AndrewNewton]

Hehe, glad you noticed.

[@johnusjohnson8972]

your dart xl flies smooth Andrew , would you mind sharing your PIFFs for INAV please?

[@AndrewNewton]

Will do (soon). All I have done is AutoTune. Screenshot in the KZbin Community tab? or I can email you the CLI dump if you give me an address

[@AndrewNewton]

Just realised it's a Matek F411 Wing board, not the F405.

[@johnusjohnson8972]

@@AndrewNewton that's what fc I'm using too ,the 411 wing

[@johnusjohnson8972]

@@AndrewNewton screen shot would be great thanks Andrew 👍

[@AndrewNewton]

Ok done. Look in the Community tab

[@jedslather]

Great i was wondering which one to chose. Talon seam to be more "nervous" in the air?

[@AndrewNewton]

The Talon is not as inherantly stable but I prefer it over the Dart. Tougher and more efficient

[@jedslather]

Andrew Newton @ yes I understand, however if the purpose is to get nice videos you would probably need a gimbal to get these twisting horizontal movements reduced. Would love to see if you can mount a gimbal on the Talon.

[@OZSCQUADS]

with the dart xl, would auto launch work better if it is hard to launch manually?

[@waldemarkraus2855]

I use Autolaunch all the time on this model, works great. But you need a very hard and precise throw. I also have very high weight, about 1450g since I use heavy battery. I use a sunnysky 2216 1250kv with a 8x6, that has better efficiency, but makes launches even harder. I think the stock setup is much better for launching heavy

[@AndrewNewton]

It launched really well in Angle mode. Not a fan of Auto Launch for heavy planes, and light planes dont need it.

[@waldemarkraus2855]

@@AndrewNewton On my first launches I used Angle mode. Worked perfectly. But since I changed to the 8x6 prop it's much harder to launch. This prop has higher stall speed. I have a 2216 1400kv motor here, do you think it would help in terms of launches?

[@deserthunter8363]

I knew I made the better choice with the Talon..... at least for me....

[@AndrewNewton]

Yes agreed

[@jwtfpv8957]

Nice outro!

[@AndrewNewton]

Havng more fun doing the end clips. Lots more to come

[@caringcenter5375]

whats FPV camera are u using?

[@AndrewNewton]

Runcam Sparrow

[@SnowbirdSteeze]

Can you slope soar either?

[@SnowbirdSteeze]

I now live near the ocean and have 10mph+ winds on the regular

[@AndrewNewton]

Not recommended. They would be too easily damaged in rough landings.

[@briankoch7041]

Andrew could you select a few maneuvers as a group of performance metrics to compare all planes you review? Edit: I didn't realize this was a year old.

[@AndrewNewton]

That is a good idea, I should have a list to go through in the same sequence, I'll ponder that. BTW I have the Nano Goblin on the bench ready to apply glue finally. Been swamped with products lately.

[@briankoch7041]

@@AndrewNewton Sounds like a terrible problem to have. :)

[@AndrewNewton]

A problem of my own making. Crikey this Nano Goblin is a well thought out plane. Love the little hole in the control horn for the spar!

[@briankoch7041]

@@AndrewNewton They really did a good job on the final product for both planes. The research and development for both ritewing and rmrc compared to the Chinese kit planes is a big reason for me sending the planes. I have wondered if anyone actually flew some of the Chinese planes before releasing to the public.

[@rwprime1]

Bow to Zod! Can you name the movie?

[@AndrewNewton]

Toy Story, oh no that's Zurg Fifth Element, oh no that's Zorg...

[@rwprime1]

@@AndrewNewton You give?

[@AndrewNewton]

I bow, tell me.

[@rwprime1]

@@AndrewNewton Superman 2 I remembered it as bow to Zod, but it may have been kneel before Zod. Anyway, that's the first thing I thought of back when you showed your first ZOHD video.

[@antonblebann6823]

Hey Andrew, i have an Idea, could You imagine to use some kind of Yagi - Uda or parabolic Antenna for Your FPV RX Set❓it should improve the Signal from the Plane, but it's just an Idea, a wired One, Your Airfield looks soaked, heavy Rain shortly ❓Video is very interessting, it's absolutly clear, the lighter Aircraft needs less Energie to stay aloft, hmm, a light wooden Wing, with more Wingspan, who knows, could fly longer👉🏻 and 👈🏻smoother❗ Big Salute, and best Wishes from Anton, Vienna🇦🇹

[@leemaples1806]

I`ve thought of using a parabolic something for the radio thinking it would improve signal strength but, unless it was for FPV long range it wouldnt be needed for line-of-sight flying...i guess.

[@AndrewNewton]

I'm in to low fuss FPV. Can't be bothered setting up a ground station and directional antennas.

[@antonblebann6823]

@@leemaples1806 ok, good reason, to much Efford.

[@antonblebann6823]

@@AndrewNewton i tought about a rather small Device on the Headset🤔🤖🤓