Dune Miniseries (2000) Retrospective/Review - Dune Retrospective, Part 2

[@RowanJColeman]

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[@klyanadkmorr]

Now onto MY fav best DUNE adaption SYFY CHILDREN OF DUNE(includes Dune Messiah) with JAMES McAVOY being the BEST LETO II/God Emperor and should be cast as God Emperor with his work doing psychotic characters multi personalities in SPLINTER and GLASS.

[@klyanadkmorr]

I always say this version of Dune was done like a BROADWAY STAGE PLAY, because of the obviousness of the Stages and the operatic style of dialogue spoken. Lynch was more Shakespeare not so stagey. recent Dune is immersive and realistic.

[@somejerkbag]

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[@Deadeye313]

This mini-series will always be my version. For the low budget they had, they did a great job. I've watched it so many times.

[@LordTalax]

I loved it too. I was keenly aware of its visual shortcomings but let my imagination go with it instead of waiting to be hand fed every bit.

[@torbenkristiansen2742]

It feels like an actual adaption, and not some re-imagining, for [insert] audience. The big screen material is not really there.

[@MarcelNL]

Agree, I absolutely loved it!

[@markmooney9416]

Late to the party but, yes this will always be my version as well. kzbin.infoUgkxZYYI_yGaERGRZ2jMNrfXTyXA9khIumAZ?si=G-sTKaqTdNrY4dfp

[@yojoono]

I'd love to see a remaster of the series. It was apparently filmed and printed on 35mm film so it could possibly get a 4k remaster.

[@tipulsar85]

I still have my DVD copy of this downstairs. Even with the current films coming out, it is still worth the watch.

[@mind4lease554]

It's still the best version of Dune to be released.

[@TeacherGalante]

This is my ONLY DVD I haven't sold in my switch to online digital media. I still love it 23 years later.

[@DeathBYDesign666]

I wish they would have gotten to God Emperor of Dune. It's going to be years before we get there this time, if they get there at all.

[@matthewrobbins663]

I tracked down the dvds last year. I love this version of Dune. I did get a chuckle out of how the dvd was better than the aired version I saw. You could see the painted backdrops hung behind the actors on dunes. Still was awesome.

[@m.c.murdoch6]

New film is trash. The character changes they made literally in the name of feminism, completely destroys the lore of the novels.

[@infinition]

The miniseries adaptations are still my favorites. They really do convey the aforementioned "Shakespeare in Space" feeling. Even the painted backdrops help the series seem like a televised stage production.

[@polreamonn]

And also a bit of Dallas in Space with Ian McNeice and Susan Sarandon chewing the scenery.

[@ShadowSonic2]

@@polreamonn Let's face it, you can't NOT chew the scenery when you're playing the Baron

[@JustGrowingUp84]

Man, I love this show! I'm a bit more forgiving, because it didn't have a huge budget and it showed, but it still looks (mostly) nice. And being longer, they adapted more of the books than the movies did. And they even managed to adapt the next two books! For me, it fits perfectly in the plethora of low-mid budget sci-fi shows that populated tv in late 90s - early 2000s.

[@sharkdentures3247]

I too loved it! (And own the DVD set. And the Children of Dune too.) The only thing that I feel really could be held particularly against it, is that (at moments) it sometimes looks (to me) like an elaborate school (or University stage) play! But, for some reason, I can't really view even THAT as much of a "negative". Also, I was somewhat "crushing" on Barbora Kodetova! (I thought she was a very pretty Chani!) LOL

[@JustGrowingUp84]

@@sharkdentures3247 Heh, I agree, on both points!

[@MichaelEilers]

The amount of mileage the show gets out of CRAZY HATS is incredible.

[@MarcelNL]

I absolutely prefer it over the latest movie. Yeah it all looked impressive, but it was just so boring!

[@jekw23]

@@MarcelNLyes, very pretty but I found it strangely cold and slow. I prefer the mini series and the Lynch film….even with their flaws. Nothing wrong with 2021 version but nothing I loved about it either

[@jayburn00]

I always liked the shakespearian drama atmosphere the miniseries had. It helps get past the effects issue. I liked it and liked the sequel miniseries even more.

[@ericstockley]

Speaking of the Children of Dune I hope we have a retrospective on that too. I loved James McAvoy role in CoD. :-)

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

An even better showing than this Dune, both were so good but Children was the better of the Two.

[@ZakhadWOW]

CoD is where I first discovered (and fell madly in lust with) James McAvoy. He has gone on to give some truly brilliant performances in the 20year since, including the Shamalamadingdong ones [Split/Glass] as a character with a bazillion different personalities... That was MESMERIZING (and terrifying). Also adored him in Wanted, Last King of Scotland, and the XMen series.

[@marocat4749]

​@@ZakhadWOWAnd he could actually done the god emporer justice.

[@Bazookatone1]

The sci fi channel mini series is best viewed, i think, as a filmed stage Play. If you imagine yiu are watching a really well done amateur production, then you can forgive the low budget desert sets and appreciate how well done so much of it is. The nu.ber of similarities between the mini series and the villneuve film suggest he (or someone on the production team) watched it closely with a notebook handy.

[@Titamiva]

Uwe Ochsenknecht (Stilgar) was on the cast of "Das Boot", just like Jürgen Prochnow, who playes Duke Leto in Lynch's version.

[@kennyhagan5781]

I prefer the miniseries, it comes off like a professionally produced play with fantastic blocking. It reminds me of Peter Brooks' production of The Mahabharata. Low budgets force directors to get creative, and it really does work for me in this instance. It's not a masterpiece, but it's really entertaining theater made for people who probably never read the book. I can't say anything bad about it, and the scene with Paul and Irulan is actually quite cute until the bodyguards show up. Thanks for the video, it reminded me to watch The Mahabharata again sometime soon. Try it out yourself, it's EPIC.

[@marocat4749]

😂 the pun

[@MarvinNoFun]

I loved Ian McNeice in this miniseries. For me, he's the definitive baron Harkonnen. Though, Stellan Skarsgard is also very impressive. I'd add about Graem Revell, that he's also a prominent figure in the world of industrial music, as the leader of a famous band SPK.

[@sonofmogh24]

Stella may be impressive but has essentially nothing in common with Frank Herbert's Baron.

[@TobeyStarburst]

Only good part

[@bigneon_glitter]

The _Dune_ miniseries is made better when watched in *black & white.* It mutes the cheapness of the production/design & augments it's strengths, putting the cinematography & performances in greater focus. The staginess then works in it's favor & the miniseries becomes a "prestige BBC adaptation from the 1960s".

[@williammitchell5201]

That sounds pretty rad

[@loslobos786]

Really!?! I didn't know that was an option? How do you make it Black & White? If so I'm definitely going to have to give the mini series another look.

[@andersdenkend]

Interesting idea. While watching this review I also got the impression, that the colors are really garish. Perhaps a de-saturation already helps a lot. I'll definitely try this out when re-watching it. Thanks!

[@umjackd]

Black and white, but with the glowing blue eyes, would be pretty great to watch.

[@jawbone78]

@@loslobos786 turn the colour setting on your TV down to zero. If you're watching on a Windows PC, you can go to the accessibility settings, find colour filters, and turn on grayscale. I assume that other devices have similar options somewhere.

[@Sensorium19]

The matte painting do not age well by most standards, but as a sci-fi fan of a particular era I love them.

[@LynnHermione]

It is amazing to think this miniseries used what was basically an early version of the 360° screen backgrounds that are everywhere in blockbusters today

[@TheJediOtaku]

This was my intro into dune! I watched with my dad and its very special to me. I read the series after watching the mini series and have read it multiple times.

[@HudsonDoodle]

Same. This got me into the book (which I had tried to read multiple times but couldn't wrap my head around it). Now the original Dune novels are my favorite books (God Emperor being my favorite book of all time) and I listen to the audiobooks at least once a year.

[@robconnole2996]

I gave this a re-watch last year on youtube and it isn't as bad as I remember. The only really unforgivable thing are the outfits of the "Chef-Boy-Ardaukar" with those ridiculous hats.

[@the_once-and-future_king.]

Well, that and the Buttplug Spacing Guild with their extremely campy hand gestures.

[@ZakhadWOW]

@@the_once-and-future_king. I could not take that spokesman seriously AT ALL. Aside from costume and gesticulation, the actor's voice delivery was farcically bad. Like PH Moriarty bad.

[@exidy-yt]

@@ZakhadWOW haha right? "The guild..(swish)....does not answer....(swish)....TO YOU! (pout) I absolutely broke out laughing the first time I saw that, at a time you should NOT be laughing.

[@BlueSpawn]

@@exidy-yt I thought you were meant to laugh at them because they looked ridiculous in the presence of the domineering Paul.

[@colkbassad]

I seem to remember really enjoying the changes with Irulan. It was a nice mix to bring some interest to an adaptation of a book I've read at least five times. I also thought the actress did a great job. I'm looking forward to the next video on Children of Dune...there is a scene in the desert between Paul and Leto II that I've never forgotten, with amazing performances by both actors. If Dune IV (God Emperoro) is ever made, I think it would be so cool if Denis Villeneuve casts James McAvoy.

[@DeltaAssaultGaming]

Definitely the best adaptation of Dune to date. The best part of it has to be Saskia Reeves as Lady Jessica. She totally nailed the part. Just perfect casting.

[@dragonofmordor]

Yes! I was so sad when she was recast for Children of Dune.

[@medicin3man1]

Wrong. Best part was Chani in the unrated DVDs.

[@eamonndeane587]

​@dragonofmordor Alica Krige was the Original Choice for Lady Jessica in the first Miniseries, but scheduling conflicts prevented her from taking up the role.

[@dragonofmordor]

I'm sure. I still prefer Saskia. She just owned the role.@@eamonndeane587

[@mind4lease554]

@@medicin3man1 a fedora wearing man of culture I see

[@ghostpasha9076]

Great adaptation for the budget and time, with some truly inspired casting choices (with the notable exception of William Hurt who both looks and sounds like he zonked on cough syrup the entire time) and a surprisingly well-fitting Irilan subplot

[@Hurbie_53]

Brilliant as always 😊👍 Small correction though: László I. Kish is Swiss. He was born in my hometown Basel in 1966 and has worked as an actor, director and writer.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

i have to disagree with you on Ian Mcniece as the Baron, i think he's a joy to watch, hamming it up at every oppotunity whilst still presenting the charisma of a seasoned Courtier, he definitely fits the operatic tone, and is for me closest to the book.

[@pavelslama5543]

I just love this show. The first time I saw it was when I was about 8 y/o, and it brought me to the world of complicated fantasy, encompassing politics and economics, which is still my hobby even almost 20 years later. And it also makes me proud to be Czech, as this is usually considered to be one of the best movies made in Czechia and with Czech actors. Its a shame that it was made only in studio, but thats what you get for making a movie about desert planet in a country that is very much the opposite of that. At first, I didnt even know that the backgrounds are just painted, I was too much interested in the story to notice that, and I just generally assumed that they were green screen.

[@Mithrandir39]

I agree. The first time I saw this, (and I was over 40) I was so lost in the great story that I never noticed that the background was a painting either.

[@Maya_Ruinz]

This is the one 2 disk dvd I kept for 20 years because it was made love the Dune novels. It had a super low budget but it sold me on everything this universe could offer and I owe it for my life of sci-fi.

[@MisterTutor2010]

The miniseries version of the Baron is my favorite.

[@eamonndeane587]

I think he especially shined in his scenes with Adult Alia in Children of Dune.

[@EGBaxter]

Even though I really prefer better storytelling of the Baron in the miniseries and the 2021 movie, there is something memorable about David Lynch’s weird, wrong, insane, diseased, and sick a-hole Baron. “Your sores lovingly cared for, for all eternity” still love that scene.

[@disconnected22]

Paul’s ultimatum to The Emperor scene is still such a great performance...

[@jamesabernethy7896]

Great and fair review. Both parts of the miniseries had their faults / limitations but I felt on the whole they had strong performances, great storytelling and a really good score.

[@shadout]

Irulan's subplot was not only labored and ultimately pointless, but it also makes Paul's treatment of her problematic. The book's Irulan was raised a manipulative bene geserit and statesperson. It seemed fitting that her plans of control were thwarted, and only after that is she given a redemption. In the miniseries she not only reaches out to Paul on a personal level even before he would be a statehood target, but she seeks to uncover the truth of the attack on his house. She becomes a relatable character on the side of good, only to be snubbed and treated like a political pawn by Paul.

[@October-sw3pt]

I see your point, but isn't her snubbing and submission ultimately part of her tragedy? And might this be a hint that the actions of the "good" guy can be objectively not good? I'm not sure if this is giving the miniseries too much credit, but I'd argue some of that is thematically consistent.

[@marocat4749]

Paul is supposed to be problematic. Its a good addition then.

[@shadout]

@@marocat4749 by that logic he should be going around randomly killing and raping people because he's problematic. The behaviour doesn't fit the circumstances like it does in the book.

[@ShadowSonic2]

But it works though, because his treatment of her in the books isn't very good either.

[@tylerh2548]

For Rowan: if you haven't yet, and I hope you may have, I highly encourage you to read the 2nd Dune novel. It may be controversial to say, but I feel it is even better then Dune. Suffice it to say, it builds on the Arthurian-Shakespearian beginnings of Paul et. al. in Dune and progresses to Paul the God-King, the Emperor-Prophet. The method he finally becomes fully in-sync with his foresight and the way the 2nd book ends for Paul both stick with me to this day whenever I think of the word "Dune" as part of the same memories from the first book.

[@Saru5000]

When this came out, HD tv's weren't as common as they are now. A lot of people watched it on a old fashion tube tv.

[@crimsonstudios680]

I have VHS copies of both this and CoD, and watching them on my CRT really does hide these imperfections really well

[@Saru5000]

@@crimsonstudios680 recently, I've been watching Magnum pi and Columbo. There are shots that are out of focus, but they used them because they knew at the time it wouldn't matter on an old tv.

[@TanerNilluhktaf]

I am sold on this series. Going to download it now.

[@Mithrandir39]

I would love to know your reaction and also if you watched the second series too.

[@plo617]

This version of Dune surely has it's problems, but I actually prefer many aspects of this version to Dennis Villenuve's film. At least the first half. We'll see how he handles the second half. This miniseries got me reading the books. And I had watched the 84 version years before that. Ultimately, I think Dune should've been a big budget television series, like Game of Thrones. I would love to see an adaptation that got up to God Emperor Dune and beyond. Hell, bring back McAvoy and make it, if Dennis' version doesn't make it past Messiah..lol

[@itsallfunandgames723]

I really enjoyed this miniseries when it came out. The digital special effects and backdrops don't hold up, but I really can't over-emphasize to any young people seeing it today just how blurry our televisions were back then. It looked fine at the time. Also Baron Harkonnen was a stand-out for me. Maybe not what some people envision from the books, but he matched the series itself well, and I feel like his performance carried the character all on its own, without weird makeup or effects needed to sell the character as evil, he was just a power-hungry, evil guy.

[@haldir198]

The super speed element wasn't added it was said in the books that they could move short distances at imperceptible speeds as many animals can such as a jumping spider ,culminating with Miles Teg who in Dune heretics could go full flash mode lol

[@ChumblesMumbles]

We've now had the 1984 film, the 2000 TV series, and the 2021 film. None are perfect, but each brought their own thing to the table. 1984 had the best cast, best sets and costumes, and best overall visual aesthetic. 2000 series had best alignment to source material and spent the most time with the story, and in a lot of ways took some of the biggest risks. 2021 film had the best effects and sound, but honestly I'm still trying to figure out why it exists because it's not going to tell as much of the story as the TV series did, so it'll always be inferior from that perspective, and all it's really doing is putting a pretty coat of paint on a derivative work.

[@exidy-yt]

Very well said, I agree with pretty much everything you said but especially you made the perfect statement of why I am so unimpressed with the newest Dune movie while so many others are saying it's the greatest EVAR.

[@JeanLucPicard85]

I love both the Lynch movie and the mini-series, they scratch different itches. Yes, the mini-series had to make sacrifices due to its modest budget but it's very atmospheric, visually interesting and I love the theatrical feel of it. I really like Irulan's expanded role as well even if it doesn't change much.

[@Sensorium19]

I still vividly remember watching this series as it came out when I was 13. It did get me into the book and greatly increased my love for different kinds of science fiction. I had already been a Star Trek fan since I was a small child, but I had never seen anything like Dune before. Reading up to God Emperor of Dune at 14 greatly expanded the scope of my imagination and perspective on life. I still have a deep affection for this mini-series, despite it's technical short comings. The depictions of dreams and vision in this series is something that particularly stays with me. I felt they handled the symbolism very well, which is something the books can't necessarily spell out how to do in a visual medium.

[@perceivedvelocity9914]

I bought this on DVD back in the day when my local Blockbuster went out of business. It was definitely the best thing that I bought when that store closed down.

[@sonyakinsey4376]

I saw this on Space, in Canadian and I always remember this series for all the appliqués. So many lace appliqués.

[@Turbiales]

11:15 Poul is showing a great deal of respect to all gathered before him.

[@AstroNerdBoy]

I like the 1984 movie and the 2000 mini-series for similar reasons. As to the visual problems, I think back when we had SD TVs, it wasn't as noticeable. But with HD+ TVs, the flaws become more evident.

[@scrooge-mcduck]

I am still waiting for "Lord of the Dune". A trilogy that'll take the best ideas from all three screenings thus far. Truly a test for the art this book is.

[@GB_Rusty]

How have I never watched this version? I've read the book many, many times. Watched and re-watched the 1984 film (and loved it). watched (and re-watched and got the 4k bluray) of the 2021 Dune film. Now I have to find a version of this. Can't wait

[@paulroman3668]

This is my favorite version, the lighting and cinematography carry the story. It indeed was much closer to a stage play, and that is what does it for me.

[@parokki]

Aww man, I loved this back in the day! Haven't rewatched in 15ish years despite still having the DVDs and the new movie was almost certainly better, but the miniseries initially got me into Dune and will always have a place in my heart. Really liked how Newman managed to be convincing as not only young rich kid Paul (although probably a bit too bratty now that you mention it), but also slightly older cult leader jihadist Paul and... you know, what he'll be later one. Chalamet was great in Dune 1, but I can't imagine him as the later versions of Paul. Hoping to be positively surprised of course. Also, loved some of the costumes. IIRC Irulan's guards had this weird woven hood thing that looked both like a beret and chainmail. That's just the kind of impractical yet reminiscent of ancient badasses detail I'd expect from the ceremonial garb of future warriors. Might have been the Lynch movie and I'm just getting old. Alsoalso, Irulan's long neck always stole the scene for me. Was surprised to find out the actress isn't generally considered a weird giraffe person. Maybe the outfit somehow threw me off?

[@gilian2587]

This Dune miniseries is the best adaptation of Dune that has ever been made. I suspect that this will still be true even after Villeneuve's Dune part 2 (and part 3?) are released.

[@creedecriswell634]

I doubt that.

[@gilian2587]

@@creedecriswell634 It is my opinion; at least. Others are free to have whatever opinion that fits their fancy. In particular -- it is respect of the source material and fidelity to the source material that I value the most in an adaptation.

[@JosephRocco-mi4cm]

​@@gilian2587 Yes, in your opinion. In mine, the new movies are the definitive Dune.

[@gilian2587]

@@JosephRocco-mi4cm That works. Glad you liked it.

[@Kwisatz-Chaderach]

Yep. Correct.

[@brunospfc8511]

First contact with Dune, awesome series, got on VHS the extended version (Brazil), still in love with it (read all the books thanks to it)

[@genmaicha.lapsang]

The mini-series was my first exposure to Dune. Despite the bugetary limitation it is to this day the most complete since both it and its sequel goes up to the end of the 3rd book.

[@haraldjensen1839]

My preferred adaptation, although I do wish Jodorowsky's Dune had been made

[@VoytekPavlik]

Yes, the LGBT version

[@jawbone78]

You touched on the stagey quality of this miniseries, and I have to say that's what I always liked about it. Confronted with a world that couldn't be done justice on a TV budget (or, let's be honest here, a feature film budget at the time in most producers' hands), they just decided to scale it way back and shoot it very much like a stage play with VFX. If they'd leaned a little harder into it in the scenes where they didn't need to (palace interiors, for example) it would have been less jarring when they did it where they did (caves and exteriors). I'd have loved a whole series that was essentially a theatrical production of Dune, shot on film, with sparing use of CGI.

[@WMalven]

You really nailed it with PH Moriarity. He was abominable--wooden and out of place. The rest of the casting was pretty darn good. I did enjoy Ian McNeice's performance, but he was more comedian than menace. Over all I think the miniseries was a great attempt that I enjoy revisiting occasionally.

[@Bazookatone1]

Ph moroarty's acting was a bit wooden, but his look is, as far as I'm concerned, the most perfect depiction of gurney there is. Whereas Duncan is an elegant fencer, gurney is a bar room brawler and street fighter, and PH moroarty captures that perfectly.

[@WMalven]

@@Bazookatone1 I'm glad you enjoyed it, but for me, even a brawler should be able to deliver his lines without sounding like he's reading them. Sorry, he stuck outline a sore thumb--like he was acting in a different film--there was absolutely no chemistry between him and Paul or any of the other actors. Even when he confronts Jessica, he's not believable.. Goes down as one of the worst acting performances I've ever seen.

[@jamied1579]

@@WMalven Totally agree. He has a very limited range, shall we say. A range that shouldn't stray too far outside a Guy Ritchie movie...

[@Bluehawk2008]

Even in Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels he's bad, but at least they hide it by not giving him a lot of dialogue.

[@jamied1579]

@@Bluehawk2008 Even so, it works well enough - With Lock, Stock...Hatchet Harry didn't emote much and his heavy cockney accent fits right in, whereas it made him stick out like dog's balls in Dune...

[@DeathBYDesign666]

I find it odd how similar the musical themes of all 3 versions are. Aside from being completely different stylistically, they all share the same basic structure sound wise. Its almost like an evolution from one to the next to the next.

[@rick-says-hello-world]

These were...fine. Honestly, the two outstanding memories I have from watching them were "why is that 20-something woman made up to look like an ancient Reverend Mother" and "how the hell did Stilgar end up being a chubby Fremen?!"

[@RecklessFables]

The obvious backdrops always made me feel like this was a recording of a stage production. Once I thought of it in that way, it worked for me since my brain settled in.

[@photophob]

Haha - nice "workaround". Maybe I'll manage to watch it someday using this mindset. Until now the visual "quality" just really killed any of my attempts ....

[@eitherorbooks]

After seeing Dune 2, I can conclusively say what I already expected. Dune (2000) is the GOAT, this one's for the book fans.

[@firehawk128]

I haven't seen the miniseries or its sequel in about a couple of decades, but it's really does live in my mind as a wonderful representation of Dune. That said, the first Dune game based on the Lynch movie is about as influential.

[@ampersand2001]

Squarespace? More like Rowan J Coleman posted again, let's give it an automatic thumbs up and watch it three times.

[@Grimskarr]

David Lynch was my introduction to Dune, so when I initially saw this version's costumes, it was jarring. But I really came to like the older-medieval aesthetic. For me, it is one of the strongest aspects of the show.

[@Malryth]

This has been the only "Dune" I have seen. Thanks for giving it some love. Oh and about the way they filmed it...for those of us watching it on CRT type TV sets...the over used background desert paintings...I just get lost in the story personally.

[@Mithrandir39]

I do too!

[@briancroyle9388]

This is still one of my favorite pieces of television. It is a bit hokey at times but for the Era in which it came out and considering the budget they accomplished a lot. I've always enjoyed all the performances from the cast despite the opinions of many internet commentators, Gurney always felt authentic to me because he comes from a lower class background in a room full of nobles, he should stick out.

[@pescara1984]

Thank you for reviewing the Dune Miniseries. I very much hope you are going to review "Children of Dune" as well. IMHO it is much better than the 1984-version because it is faithful to the source-material. In regards of the looks, I am very forgiving because I always saw the miniseries as a Kind of theatrical thing. As if it I'm seeing a shakespeareske play on stage. (non-native speaker here. If you find some mistakes, you can keep it 😅)

[@randallbokma2619]

this version is still easily the best screen adaptation we have gotten so far. Just hearing that music again, its so much better than the Hans Zimmer score. Just one of many ways the miniseries is better.

[@johnmiller7682]

This is still the best on screen adaptation. I don't care about visual effects. It's all about the story. And they did a great job.

[@LoudmouthReviews]

I think we have to wait till part 2 is out before determining that

[@eradius]

agreed. 1984 is a visual spectacle but doesnt really follow the story that well, especially near the end. the new stuff is all style and no substance, honestly felt like it was made in a lab by a robot. dune 2000 strikes a nice balance, plus leads on to children of dune with the same actors and i really love that adaption

[@ZakhadWOW]

@@eradius**Most of the same actors - there were definite differences: Jessica, Stilgar, Duncan Idaho especially.

[@johnmiller7682]

@@LoudmouthReviews The new one reminds me of the 1984 version. With a few added scenes.

[@mind4lease554]

@@LoudmouthReviews no we don't

[@quentinking4351]

I too was introduced to Dune by this miniseries. And for that I am grateful. But what was a visual masterpiece for kid me doesn't hold up. I still want to rewatch it though. Of course, the only SF I had seen at that point was ST, SW, Galaxy Quest, and Starship Troopers.

[@billc.8569]

I loved this miniseries! I still like this as a whole with compared to the newest version.

[@danielrose8305]

10:30 I would say, a man acting as a teenager is more realistic as he was raised in opulence. He's never had to grow as a person because he's never had to struggle until he arrived on Arrakis. So he played it perfectly.

[@CantankerousDave]

I can only hear Matt Keeslar’s Feyd Ruatha going, “I’m not the Kwisatz Haderach. I’m just the Middleman.” (Congrats to the ten other people out there who watched that show.)

[@knghtbrd]

This version of Dune was actually very well done, especially given their budget. The costumes … hats, so many silly hats! This from a guy who is never far from a fairly silly hat himself. It's interesting that you appreciate the costuming because it's the part I think most people find relatively weak and strange. I have to agree about the casting for Gurney, but I loved this version of the Baron Harkonnen! Not gross, not alien, completely human. The intelligence, the plotting, and all of the menace I'd thought could be conveyed on screen. (I was wrong looking at Denis Villeneuve's adaptation, but that adaptation is missing the humanity and does not convey the intelligence well.) The thing about this miniseries that most made it feel more theatrical than cinematic was the use of colored lighting that was so obviously floods with colored gels, like a theater performance. I don't know if I would have been as forgiving of its budgetary shortcomings had I not read the book first, but I _had_ read the book and found the miniseries competent if constrained by a TV budget.

[@charleshamilton9274]

I actually originally watched this miniseries on TV then bought the DVD which I will view once in a while, especially on a cold and snowy afternoon. This adaptation was very European in flavor and execution. It’s as if a diluted Jodorowsky version finally got made. I seem to be the only person on this planet who preferred Alec Newman’s Maud’Dib to Kyle MacLachlan’s depiction. On the whole, this miniseries is a curiosity, nothing more.

[@brianjungen4059]

You’re not. Alec was awesome and Kyle was an embarrassment as was the entire 1984 film.

[@larrytolson4135]

I like all versions for different reasons. I like the new version the best. Denis did a fantastic job. Sooo, I describe all the versions like this: the Lynch version was a cartoon. The miniseries was a weekend at your local dinner theater. Villenuve’s version was like watching Shakespeare at the Paris Opera House.

[@ivanidlehand9651]

Dune 84' was my first introduction to the theatrical universe of Frank Herbert but it was the Dune Miniseries that explained this complex world and Dune 2021 to finally appreciate it's stylized storytelling. Dune still holds the sci-fi title as the best space opera compared to those "streaming service" corporations. #shotsfired #slowbladepenatratestheshield

[@YukonJack88]

I loved this series, but the costume design was just painful to endure.....

[@thcdreams654]

Excellent work as usual. Thanks.

[@B4umkuchen]

I remember seeing this on German TV for the first time. As someone who was mesmerized by the first Dune Movie, I was aghast by the terrible CGI and boxy Ornithopter. Also for me, there was always something off with the set decoration. It looks like every cheap Sci-Fi channel show (which is it) that displays its strange plastic-like decorations in weird lighting that enhances its flaws and cheap look. In short, this series utterly fails at immersion and set dressing.

[@rinehardt6837]

I honestly did not mind a mini series I actually rather enjoyed it. It is not aged well. But you can tell based on the technology we had at the time and I'm sure the limited special-effects budget they had the look of the miniseries has not aged well. but very much and entertaining so was second one they brought out a children of Dune which is basically Dune messiah and children of Dune mash together.

[@ukmediawarrior]

I love the David Lynch Dune movie, and I love this mini series. Yes, they both had their issues, but considering what they were trying to adapt I feel both did an excellent job in their own way. As for the mini series though, yeah, Moriarty was a terrible choice, he really did stand out and in a bad way. I wince every time I see him speaking on screen. And yes, that self same warehouse blown up a dozen times, but for different battles is so obvious. I try to give it the benefit of the doubt because the writing and acting, for the most part, is just so good, but it is a shame the budget didn't give them the latitude to really make this something akin to Game of Thrones in space which is what it is.

[@Blisterdude123]

Honestly I'd agree he's not the world's best actor. But I genuinely have a soft spot for his portrayal of Gurney Halleck. It's entirely subjective, I get that, but for me his rough and earthy performance is what sells it. His version of Gurney comes across as so grounded and honest and straightforward. Blunt and truthful and lacking a certain social grace. Like unwittingly the untailored acting to me makes him seem as genuine, lacking any kind of inherent deception of deceit as I feel Gurney should. He's an open book to Paul, and us, and that makes Moriarty's iteration endearing to me.

[@sashaburrow6186]

All of the adaptations so far have their flaws - Lynch's was highly compromised by the final edit, the mini series by its low budget, wooden actors and awful costumes, and Villeneuve's by just being bland and ignoring half the story. They also all have their good points too - though that usually comes down to personal taste on what you consider the good points to be.

[@corrupt1238]

Excellent adapations (including Children of Dune), loved it then & still do now

[@Fuuntag]

Peak 2000s made for TV CGI here. *chefs kiss*

[@eradius]

dune 2000 and children of dune are probably my favourite adaptions of the series. followed by dune (1984) then finally the new stuff which is all style little substance (plus shooting lasers at things with shields which really irked me big time)

[@exidy-yt]

Thank God I am not the only one. The new movie I find to be by far the worst of the three both for casting and for world issues, the shield-lasgun interaction being one of the standouts. The miniseries (the first one, anyway) was probably as close an adaptation of the the source as we're going to get.

[@eradius]

@@exidy-yt yeah some of the casting choices were bizarre. like Kynes and Idaho. i like jason momoa as much as the next guy (atlantis) but a real weird choice for that role

[@blagoyavichrod]

And Barbora Kodetová was SCORCHINGLY hot.

[@di3486]

The perfect Chani!

[@blckbirdoftrees6218]

Dammit. I can't unsee the painted background now.

[@Rhamsody]

Honestly, I still look at this as the definitive version of Dune. They had more time to cover more of the books, and I felt they did it pretty faithfully. We'll see how it all wraps with Denis' version though. He seems to be off to a good start.

[@JP-vt4pk]

Cannot wait for you to cover the stargate in all its flavours!

[@RobVespa]

Nice commentary. Despite any flaws, I want to rewatch this series. All the best! Aside: While it's not an accurate representation, David Lynch's Dune remains my favorite adaptation to date. Why hasn't the fabled nine hour version surfaced? It stands alone. I only wish Alejandro Jodorowsky had been able to fulfill his vision. It'd be interesting to see the rough cut of Lynch's film (allegedly over four hours long) and I'd love to see his intended cut (allegedly just shy of three hours long).

[@danielwilliamson6180]

Dune was a good mini-series and it was a better screen adaptation of the Frank Herbert novel.

[@royfugate]

you forgot to mention the version aired on us tv was 30 minutes shorter than the international cut.

[@TheKeyser94]

The TV version is KZbin, and most episodes have one hour and half, the spanish dub of the episodes that are also in KZbin are two hour each.

[@jasonpeacock9735]

SciFi didn’t choice to take out the nude scenes. Prudes.😂

[@taker68]

At the time, I was happy to see a version that covered more of the novel than Lynch's version could. I did note the low production values but that's the best we could hope for. No way was a film studio going to remake such a failure. I was hoping Sci-Fi Channel would do more straight adaptations of famous novels but then they made Riverworld and that was dashed. Then they barely made any sci-fi anymore. Odd that this version leaves out the Mentats.

[@NorybDrol82]

It had the mentats though they were not explored much.

[@IDFArmor]

I loved this miniseries as a kid. it has a special place in my heart.

[@bubbadoom1837]

@ToumalRakesh the backdrops were intentional. They wanted a theatrical look, with the backdrops and lighting.

[@stevewilson6723]

One of the things that makes the mini-series stand out is that the Fremen/Islam connection will never be explored in the same level of detail again in a post-9/11 world. I think that having expired that theme will make this version one of the best versions of Dune ever.

[@michaelsasylum]

I still love rewatching this to this day.

[@TheAnubis21485]

I kinda found the issues with the background an intended effect to give the miniseries a "You are watching a live play" feel.

[@ZedemMonk]

This definitely was my definitive on-screen version of Dune although I think I read the books first so that's likely why I prefer it despite its problems. Backdrops aside, I like the costuming, lighting and vibrancy of the miniseries much more than the washed out look of the new films; although I do hope that they'll make it the God Emperor storyline and beyond with the new films.

[@DarinM1967]

Thanks for your take on both. I enjoyed both though I preferthe 1984 version over this one. Perhaps it's nostalgia on my part, but it is what it is. Each version has their positives and negatives.

[@bensneb360]

While not perfect, I appreciate the creative strives the miniseries took, and it walked, so the 2021 movie could run

[@warren286]

The mini series was great, and love the music.

[@General_reader]

I’ve never realized this Shakespearean atmosphere before.

[@kenknowlton3085]

Personally, I respect storytelling more than visual dazzle. Out of the three, 1984, mini series, and the latest theatrical release, I enjoy and respect the mini series and find it superior even to the latest movie. The experience is not complete without watching the sequel series, Children of Dune. I highly recommend.

[@ChrisComley]

Thanks. My "intro" to Dune was reading it when I was about 12, and I've been waiting for a decent adaptation ever since. '84 totally failed for me. This m/s was good. I've not re-watched recently, I think I'll put it on my list. Of course, Denis Villeneuve's film has set a new standard - I look forward to part 2.

[@Bens_Channel47]

thänks for the great video. I liked the dune mini-series when i was a teenager. I relly hope the other dune miniseries will come next. The are quite an improvement i think.

[@vulc1]

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