Battlecruiser Mine to Grandmaster #13 - He Wasn't Ready For This...

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[@berenger1002]

I think the original 2 challenges rotation that you are doing now works better than having 5 simultaneously.

[@jordanmayer2016]

Agreed. I feel more invested in each challenge.

[@hwile]

Makes progression easier to track

[@singlethreaded]

Yea and the story lines are better when he plays a player from a previous episode. Increases the drama to see how he deals with the blind counters.

[@Blandge]

​@@singlethreaded The story lines are nonexistent with 5 challenges

[@shufflecat3334]

I vote for including all games. What I love most about these series is the story of watching the good the bad and the epic. Its something which I find is becoming more rare these days as more KZbinrs are refining their content and cutting out the "boring stuff". Every video is becoming "I wanted to do X, ran into an issue, and BOOM finished product yay!".

[@tvrkm6897]

Challenge idea: siege only. You are only allowed to use units that can siege up, ie tanks, mines, and liberators.

[@0venfresh]

Dynamic defense to GM W H E N

[@chillynewberg2652]

The question is: Must they be sieged to use them?

[@nomar611]

@@chillynewberg2652 i think the answer would have to be no as then the only anti-air would be widow mines & missile turrets. liberators aren't great AA but they are AA. i think i'd love to see Thermy work with unsieged tanks to weird and wild effect

[@l4unchp4dgaming38]

I like this idea.

[@l4unchp4dgaming38]

​@@nomar611Liberators also shoot air?

[@Zenkujo]

"you're not getting past that! well actually, he's quite literatlly getting past that"... ah Marc, we love you :)

[@charlesc1687]

Cracked me up! Made me laugh out loud. I'm glad I wasn't the only one that heard that!

[@Nico_Dica]

I'd prefer you continue showing every game because we can learn so much more on losses than wins, especially since you usually explain what were your mistakes or what could you possibility have done better 😊

[@SawyerSGN]

He suggested showing only the best games, not only the wins. Pretty sure that means he'd show a loss if it was a certified banger.

[@Nico_Dica]

@@SawyerSGN Yeah sure but we already have Thermy2 for the best BANGER games only.

[@junkmauler]

Your energetic commentary makes for such good content, keep it up!

[@NDNRG9]

every time i see you play insanely skilled starcraft, simultaniously commenting on the moves and strategies and on top of that having the head to randomly throw jokes and talk about random stuff too, I´m just amazed of what the human mind is actually capable of! just amazing content!

[@isaacdavis3134]

You should definitely include all your games. The more uthermal I have to watch the happier I am. Also, if I had the skill to play even one of your “bad” games, I would frame that game and retire from StarCraft, telling my grandkids about the game lol

[@geuros]

Not just that, we can learn from mistakes too

[@theoriginalvyrus5328]

Love your content!! I watch daily! New challenge suggestion: "Wait For It..." or "Passive" - you are not allowed to attack or harass first, you have to wait for your opponent to full blown attack into you first. Alternative joke challenge: "Diplomacy" - win by convincing your opponent to leave through peace talks in the chat 😂

[@khankotyan6991]

You can after finishing the challenge, do like "Best [challenge name] games" compilation, were you show gold games from the challenge. Maybe that's format bring more casual viewers in it.

[@maya_gameworks]

SHOW. ALL. GAMES. PERIOD.

[@mgelbart]

6:54 I appreciate zergy transfusing the spore from the high ground, wp

[@IamKnucks]

I'm probably the only one, but for some reason I'd love to see you tear through the starcraft campaign on the hardest difficulty. I know you'd probably crush it without even blinking, but you never really hear pros talk about starcraft lore or reflect on the themes of the game. I feel like playing through the campaign would give us a chance to hear a pros perspective.

[@jackryan6446]

Video idea: do a compilation of all your worst losses or worst games. 🙂 And you should definitely keep showing all your games even the losses. The transparency in nice.

[@artur7574]

32:02 "you're not getting past that" "..." "oh actually he is quite literally getting past that" Lmaoo

[@Eli1234fivesix]

Hey therms, love watching your games man. I never play StarCraft and only have played campaigns but after your videos I can hop on and use things I’ve seen in your videos to play a little better in PvP. I was wondering how you have tunes your game settings to most efficiently rally units and select buildings.

[@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer]

That's a good question. I hope uThermal does his tutorial series. 👍

[@sloanNYC]

On Gresvan I feel like the bottom left center base is key on this map. If you set up on the high ground here you control the whole bottom left. Only the ramp at your 3rd and this base... that's it... 2 points of entry really for protecting 7 bases.

[@geuros]

Dude, the Protoss in the second game actually recalled that one observer, it was that one you killed haha, you even saw the animation you just didn't realise. Banger games though

[@sanssin344]

i think it would be cool if you got another gm player to play against you using the twitch roulette wheel, or maybe set up a mini challenge wheel tournament with multiple players

[@FargoFred]

I really love that you show every game. Even the terrible ones. Please don't change that! Also as far as challenges go, i don't think ive ever seen a marauder challenge. Maybe with libs or something that can shoot air idk. But those would be fun. Also it would be fun to bring back old challenges!

[@blamasterk]

"That army definitely looks inhuman." Yes, it's Zerg. No hooman

[@momom6197]

"You're not getting past that, man! Oh, actually, he is just getting past that..."

[@hiramrichmond3341]

If you ever get a sponsor, you could do a challenge where you draw their logo in the game. Like if it was Nord VPN, draw it using widow mines in your opponents main.

[@simonanderson3961]

17:30 "it's only one battle cruiser" - I tried slowing down the playback but I couldn't see where you selected the battle cruiser(s) to teleport them in? And given you were surprised there was only one, do you somehow automatically assign new units to a hot key?? I could see you switching to starport hot key to see when they finished but I'm thinking of you quickly went back to starport to select the units then teleport them then you would've seen how many you had? Or maybe that's a way to get units to teleport automatically when they spawn??

[@adamdidier491]

I like your greatest hits week idea. Start with the bongcloud. End with the bongcloud. Have a slice of bongcloud in the middle of that sandwich. ... I love the bongcloud.

[@DiscipleofVenser1992]

I know you want to showcase the best matches and it'd be really cool to see, but I like seeing all matches. All the commentary you do teaches us viewers, I feel, so much more can be taught from a loss than a win. Besides you've had some good games even though you lost.

[@DDD-lg6xx]

Personally, I want to see all the games for every challenge no matter what. HOWEVER, I wouldn't say no to compilation videos; Best of's and the like. That's probably more second channel's style but hey, I think it'd be a hit to have all the bangers together 😁 Love the vids, keep up the great work!

[@dakkath414]

Terran macro mining: 16 Orbitals, float one to a base, launch a mule from each Orbital to the minerals next to where you just landed.

[@nickb5916]

an idea I had was that once you hit grandmaster, you could unlock maybe a second tier ability, like you're still doing widowmine/BC, but then if the match goes past 10 minutes you make ghosts also, or whatever just like to give you a little more flexibility, and then you can say after x of this rule you can end it.

[@scottwithrow7791]

Have like a wheel of fortune with all the different challenges on it and you can spin before every game. The meta-challenge!

[@eclipseeffigy]

I like this 2 challenge rotation, but I lowkey miss having the occasional non-terran challenge. I still want to see Oracle all-ins and Baneling busts from you! 😇

[@justawanderingoldman7699]

I love Terran and I always like to watch unique Terran play. But I do agree that more Protoss and Zerg will be awesome to watch for more variety

[@Aryan_homophobe]

I will prefer to see every game of the challenges not just the cool ones. Even the games that are not looking so good and fun are very interesting and educational because of your commenting on them.

[@ronratliff8320]

microphone sounds great and thank you for bumping up the volume on the music! very sultry tone of your voice and the music goes great together.

[@codywhite7898]

So if you are looking for opinions in regards to what you should do, I would say that I really enjoy watching all the games even when they don't go as well because we often get to see you apply refinements to your play as you get more settled in

[@PhuVinh030609]

I think your ambition is going to be completed, luckily before July, 100k subs is so close. Now it is 96.9k subs

[@arivaldhagel2394]

Speedunning SC2 was my favorite and I was sad that it ended so quickly.

[@monstersaint]

Great info! Love the insight to strategy.

[@baspersson95]

The crazier, weirder and harder the challenge the better the content IMO. So far I have liked the boncloud challenge!

[@AB-ri5ix]

It was the fungal + splash damage from the window mines that killed the battle cruiser.

[@Frosty1432]

Will there be a new channel for StormGate if its good? would love to start learning playing it with him

[@overthinker8706]

Despite the fact I like to see you win, I'd like to see loses too. It's always very exciting to see you play and not know how it's gonna end. That is also the reason why your games at second channel are in one way less exciting - on one hand there is often absolute chaos, craziness, and masterful play on your part which is good - on the other hand you only put wins there, so we know that in the end you are going to win somehow. And don't worry about us seeing your losses - 99% people would like to lose in a way that you do.

[@nicheva417]

Would love to see you bait anti-air into a giant missile battery of turrets oneday. Just stack like 9 turrets on top of each other (not spread) in some random spot

[@Liberal_Conservative]

I like the idea of a Pf as part of the natural wall as a 6th cc just incase they try and run by the one in the middle

[@adamhenrie3879]

I have to say I would love to see the absolute top games in grandmaster to show the power of the challenge

[@kellantracy969]

Love all your content keep it up my dude

[@PashaSlavaUkraine]

''people are not ai. we make mistakes" - uthermal 2023

[@anialator1000000]

New Challenge Idea, No unit scouting (no units inside the enemy main or natural) for the first 5 or so minutes. If you want to see, you have to Scan. Likely needs some adjustments to be a better challenge idea, but the whole heavily restricted scouting seems like a real challenge, especially in master league where knowing what your opponent is doing is so critical. You are forced to figure out what they are doing based on what units they send out, scouting patterns and timings, etc and build an army that can fight back when you just don't know what tech and how much production they have.

[@phillgizmo8934]

Marc, it's not critique, Master, but would you like to remember to drop repair mules earlier in a fight, because I'd imagine how salt-miningly that mule winning gg is. That move with corruptors over BC to make difficult to focus fire was new to me, good one. Adios. Like you said, you can know things, but not know in time.

[@kapick]

Can we have a uThermal unleashed series for once please? No restrictions - just 100% uThermal - similar to how you would be playing in a tournament.

[@maddog2314]

I hope Harimang hears your compliments

[@Candle45]

Challenge idea, Zerg, flying units only. I bet u can't

[@Shoes51]

Idea: for early stages of a challenge, scale your APM in function of your MMR until 5K or so

[@hoffa57]

What about a marauder/ghost challenge. I know you have done ghost only. But was thinking of the ghost bonus to light units and marauder bonus to heavy might be interesting. Light on anti air, but with your ability, I think it would be fun to see.

[@Eli1234fivesix]

Lol, I legitimately won my first ever unranked last night haha.

[@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer]

Nicely done. 😁

[@phychmasher]

3:25 Oh, is that what you've been considering? Doing the things we love the most? I mean, I keep hitting the subscribe button, but it just keeps changing colors.

[@colinleemarker]

Here are a few ideas for some great content: 1) Best of video: Take some of the best from the past 6 months to 1 year and then put them together. You could keep the original voice over or even add some additional commentary. 2) Rivalry videos where you highlight sequential games against a specific player like kamikaze. 3) Lastly, like the best of video, you could also do a worst of video where you highlight the biggest errors you made and what others can learn from them.

[@forevergogo]

*taking notes* So, no nukes? Interesting. Putin won't expect the widow mines and battlecruisers! HA! GOT 'IM!

[@TheMuffinman191]

This is…..interesting bait.

[@GabrielCosta-fk6xo]

Hellbats challenge? I don't know much about SC2 but I liked the hellbats (I don't even know if thats the right way to say their name lol) they are really cool

[@Technoanima]

I best of Build X as a series would be great! E.g. Best Penguin Bros, where you cast yourself.

[@adventurousbabyslimes6898]

Next challenge. Make every unit before moving out in any order. Rules must have 2 of every unit can mass any after that.

[@m.lebedev1493]

26:01 bizarre bug where you get vision half a second before the teleport :/

[@nenno6748]

In the first game Thermy was 2.200374531835206 times more efficient than his opponent.

[@Seviinz]

Challenge Idea: 5 Unit limit to GM Only allowed to have 5 Unit count maximum. Not allowing any "mass abc or xyz" to save the day strategies. It probably would break a lot of your normal defences, and probably all of the games will end up macro games.

[@zackblack1824]

Is it possible for you to show your challenge units armor and weapon upgrades on the screen somewhere? Maybe just upgrade more :) haha

[@chillynewberg2652]

I believe those show up in the selection area, which is behind his image. I was wondering why he always knew how many units his widow mines had killed and such, until I remembered that his image is covering that part of the screen

[@donnymills1887]

Spin the wheel to GM challenge where each match you get randomly assigned a previous challenge

[@hiramrichmond3341]

Do a challenge called "tower defense" only siege units, turrets, planetaries, bunkers and units on hold position.

[@yosikratish2494]

Turtle to GM. You cannot attack for 20-30 minutes. You can defend your bases.

[@mikjeuitbranant]

Plays 20 minute really tough game. Calls it warm-up 🤷🏼‍♂️ uTHERMAL. Name checks out.

[@Crow4o]

Love all your games man. It does not matter if it's a "bad" game or not, love watching you play and comment. 😄

[@pinky797]

I don't think there is much crazy strategies left for you. Oracle might be one of them.

[@pinky797]

or war prism. and zerg strats are just strats not challenge.

[@leafykille]

Definitely think I'd rather see all the games rather than just highlights.

[@pikalefou5399]

you remind me someone try to get to grandmaster with marauder widowns mine to grant master i don't think he manage to make it.

[@SeekAndDestroyTM]

I feel like there has never been a good explanation of exactly how upgrades scale for both attack and defense against various units (light, armoured, bonus vs "massive", etc). Would you be willing to show this, Marc?

[@Shoes51]

If you want to do the analysis on your own, you can run a spreadsheet to calculate how many hits does it take for a unit to destroy another unit with different upgrades on each.

[@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer]

A good point. And yes you could make a spreadsheet, or hop into the unit tester. But it would be nice to have a discussion about upgrades. When to take them, how useful they are at different skill levels ... stuff like that.

[@henikus]

Can you make one day educational video about upgrades please? Playing sc for almost 10 years and still can not fully understand how important they are. Should we make them asap (but in a reasonable time ofc) or is it worth only if you have a massive army?

[@mrchickenrocket1]

Can you load SCVs into medivacs?

[@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer]

Yes.

[@joeking5215]

Can we have access to your replays?

[@balazsfenyes3880]

Battlecruisers are big buffy flying marines. Why didnt he use neuro on BC and yamato each other? You can neuro while burrowed. Ofc that needs more micro but he is high enough level for that.

[@craigcroy4615]

It would be fun if you combine two challenges for a week

[@Sandude]

Hi thermy. Enjoy your tea.

[@Kufunklefec]

I want to see all the games.

[@dessguy7199]

First game was epic. Second game was funny

[@Kirk.television]

Let's go!

[@Lgrodo]

Yes!

[@Maichd2847]

Amazing games - time to watch it now

[@TeslaGengar]

Repeating a previous comment: Petition to rename this challenge “widowcrusier”

[@Ty-bz7zx]

BAngIN!

[@erictripps125]

You should get 3 fans to queue with you in 4v4's. They then leave at the start of the match and you macro/micro their units.

[@ToiletTennis]

You having a "terrible" episode is nice because it shows that you are not perfect even at the highest level.

[@Levm17]

Why people give up with 7k in the bank? Lack of macro? Missleaded larva economy? Tired?

[@TheMuffinman191]

7k minerals doesn’t matter. 3k gas does. Probably out of larva and definitely tired. That last engagement was blatantly a “fuck it, charge, im done” kinda move.

[@PashaSlavaUkraine]

geegeedoubleupee would be funny name XD = ggwp

[@ThreeSeatStarboard]

Challenge Idea h/t to @TVRKM IRON WARRIORS TO GM Player Handle "Perturabo" May only build units with a siege mode.

[@Bump33]

Lezgo

[@ryanlee5575]

Tank slow push with bunkers plz :p

[@ardechirpakfar6823]

Show all and after, make best of each challenge you did, please! While doing new ones...

[@briannicusthegreat5451]

This would take alot of editing but you could do best of Thermal and Thermal fails for your series and videos.

[@blamasterk]

it's called stalemate, not checkmate

[@ОбуховВасилий]

I'd rather watch something new than your older challenges. Especially because you are already playing them on your second channel

[@nigl8196]

if you are only showing your best games it could become very grindy for you. I like seeing the losses as well though. It gives me as a player an idea how to counter it

[@ingestingcreation1024]

Trackball mouse to grandmaster please

[@pathwaysmadepublic]

laptop trackpad to gm plz

[@SeekAndDestroyTM]

Guitar Hero controller with his feet to GM. I've been literally asking for this for the last 6 months.

[@justawanderingoldman7699]

How about no keyboard challenge? Do everything manually with mouse click only lol. I played SC1 like that as a kid way back then. Now I'm curious can a pro gamer make it work.

[@nicklindberg90]

So early I haven't even expanded to the natural yet!