Battlefield 2042 Needs to Die - So It Can Actually Live

[@jejevooijs1757]

I’ve slowly started to accept that Battlefield as we know it has died. Former devs gone, all these new people coming in and creating additional studios spread out over different countries and cities. Bottom line is, it will never be the same because the people who made it great are no longer there. I’ve accepted that. They would have to pull a miracle of the century on the next game for me to return to the franchise. Battlefield 2042 needs to die completely

[@PinkFloydFreak55]

ARC RAIDERS

[@stew360]

2042 is the biguest combine arms BF we ever had . And i many ways the best BF we ever had sure there is some lack of polish here and there and launch felt rushed .. But BF at its core is a conquest base combine arms game .. The classes of past BF were ever changing from 1 bf to the other totally unpredictable and anoying to deal with when it came to team play BF4 dual custumizable slots were a joke and made it impossible to predict what the assault or engi was doing ... While at least specialist have 1 gadjet locked and the other can be among few things .. But its 100% sure a falk can revive and heal and an angel can revive and resupply

[@nyghtkingxlll6665]

@@stew360 fukk falk and angel we wanted the caracter costumisation of bfv and no overwatch First of all the maps are trash

[@muhammedalitoya1505]

@@stew360 from what country are you shills hired from? Outsourced to some 3rd world country it seems based on your spelling. Get a real job in the shoe making slaveshop you nuggett.

[@AM-qz6cm]

DONT SHOOT, LET 'EM BURN! Same, tho. I've absolutely loved and lobbied for the series to friends over COD, etc., for a decade at least. Now I wouldn't even recommend this to my worst enemy.

[@KreissonGR]

It's so frustrating to seeing my favourite gaming series to die like that..

[@Kyle_Lurz]

They did it to themselves it’s not our fault

[@caprise-music6722]

@@Kyle_Lurz that’s no comfort what so ever.

[@caprise-music6722]

KreissonGR Couldn’t feel your pain more!

[@Kyle_Lurz]

@@caprise-music6722 it is frustrating I agree but at the same time they have nobody to blame but themselves

[@pm.meowth4850]

ikr

[@Rogue-Mike]

All they had to do with BF2042 was: -Follow the ground work of BF3 & 4 -Zero in on atmosphere appropriate for the setting of societal collapse like BF1 -Follow the customizable soldier option similar to BFV But nah, they chased off everyone who had good ideas to chase the Apex BR trend and it fell flat yet again as they did not learn from the Firestorm failure along with the generic covid excuse.

[@goatman9499]

Big IF but if they made hazard or firezone FREE to industry standards for battle royales these days there would be 2 more players at least. Instead ppl call it as it is, a unfinished cashgrab. Gotta shipit no matter wat lol

[@ImperialZorn686]

have the in depth animations of BFV

[@JorgeGarcia-gp5cf]

Which is baffling to me why they even need another BR when EA literally OWNS Apex Legends which rakes in money.

[@Rogue-Mike]

@@JorgeGarcia-gp5cf Ita because its double dipping tactics banking on brain dead morons to fund it.

[@PabloLaConecta]

It really did seem like a no brainier but they fucked it it up, somehow.

[@plataoplomo1817]

Nothing stays forever, remember the great moments playing older Battlefield titles. EA will pay a reasonable price, they will lose importance as a major developer. They are not the first large company that sooner or later goes bankrupt. Punish them and let this shit ass game die. We all deserve better. Go and enjoy BF1, one of the best parts ever made. I am a veteran since BF2 with thousands of hours of playtime in all titles combined and I will do the same.

[@LazyNinjaTv]

I remember blockbuster used to be huge and one of the go to places to rent movies and video games...but they eventually went out of business with streaming services taking over the market. It's possible for EA to suffer loss in revenue but it would require a massive amount of people to not purchase or play any games published by EA. Not sure if that's a possibility with how well Apex Legends and FIFA is doing.

[@GastonBoucher]

They are not going bankrupt any time soon because of fifa and madden

[@LazyNinjaTv]

@@GastonBoucher It most likely won't happen but unhappy Battlefield fans should move on and find other fps games. Their are few good fps especially in Indie games.

[@Jacehdr19449]

EA isn't going anywhere yet I'm aftaid, too many EA sport dollars to sink anyhow.

[@ElectronicRevelation]

Battlefield fans (myself included) need to understand how insignificant BF is to EA. 5 to 10% of their revenue coming from this series is peanuts...they could probably let BF die completely, repurpose dice as a backup studio to make micro content for apex and FIFA and make more money this way. Investors aren't gamers. they don't care that BF has been around for 20 years.

[@roostercogburn122]

This game was purely built for microtransactions. The pure love and passion for a battlefield game from the developers clearly didn't exist. Even if they do get this game back on track(which I don't see happening) this game will never be a true battlefield experience.

[@karateguy247]

I should have refunded my purchase a week after I bought it

[@N0N0111]

And now we have seen their micro transaction greed earnings for games in 2021, you darn be right they want to earn more with that model. And they have the science down to the bit which group of gamers are the most easy target for that. They hand model the game to that group of gamers more, cause they know the farming potential is paramount! I hope it blows up in their face so hard!

[@wolfpack4128]

Exactly! I argued until I was blue in the face years ago that if Premium goes away, micro transactions will become the sole source of ongoing revenue which is the main way game companies make money. This means all they will focus on is making a game that has lots of elements that do nothing for base gameplay. Remember the BF5 trailer? I knew in that moment I was right, that BF had lost its way and the handwriting was on the walls. BF is dead, long live Battlefield. Here's to hoping EA sells off DICE and they one day can go back to doing what they do.

[@forrestdalpiaz284]

See game is dying because of professional idiots like this. "GaMe Is bUIlT fOR mIcro TrANsAcTioNs" The game has no micro transactions, just great gameplay.

[@N0N0111]

@@forrestdalpiaz284 95% of the people that pre-order the game and uninstall couple weeks later, cause DICE/EA lied in their face are all professional idiots by your thinking. I hope you will heal from your illness very soon.

[@Cimlite]

"Battlefield 2042 isn't _that_ problematic", followed by 10 minutes of listing core game mechanics that would need to be entirely scrapped and redone. Stuff that would take a full dev team another year or two to accomplish. There's just no way... this game is dead and buried. Only question that remains is if the franchise is buried alongside it.

[@chrisgoblin4857]

The question is will Dice survive any more fuck ups? They surely are not making EA money and that's their modus operandi.

[@Cimlite]

@@chrisgoblin4857 Dice does also make the Frostbite engine though. At one point EA wanted to use that for basically all their games, which makes sense... why share the profits with the likes of Epic and their Unreal Engine. That said they seem to have started to move away from that idea, so who knows if that's something that could make Dice valuable to EA.

[@xLemperx]

Removing specialists would bring me back. Got the ultimate edition and I hate myself for it. Never preordering again lol

[@joethemig1522]

Get rid of the specialists entirely. The overlap of character models between the two teams is a major part of the problem - when you cannot tell friend from foe.

[@LundinSebastian]

Won't happen. They built the system of micro transactions around the idea of specialists and selling skins for these specialists. Best case scenario they overhaul the system a bit, maybe restrict which specialists you can use on each side and so on.

[@joethemig1522]

@@LundinSebastian Oh, I know that it won't happen, exactly for the reasons you listed. But it absolutely needs to happen if they want any chance of salvaging this nonsense.

[@hotshot8365]

@@LundinSebastian they could mirror the specialists for each side and make them look/sound different. Then they could sell twice as many skins as there would be an Angel for US and another for the Russians (or whoever the main protagonist sides are - thats how much I don’t care about the dumb lore of this game 😂).

[@jsonsh]

At this point, I think I can safely say the Battlefield series is just a good nostalgic memory. I don't think I can consider myself a Battlefield fan anymore, which is sad to say. This is the one that pushed me over the AAA edge finally. Congrats, EA/DICE, you have successfully scammed many of your fans and backed yourself into a corner. I do feel bad for the Developers who have to work on fixing this mess because I just cant see many people giving this one another actual chance.

[@DailyMotivationsTiktok]

I tried giving 2042 a chance but it doesn’t feel like anything like the past battlefield games. If battlefield 4 was remastered, I would think bf4 is more superior to 2042

[@Kyle_Lurz]

To say this game was a disappointment is an understatement

[@althegamer6606]

Its burning cow shit

[@VULTBY]

Overpromised and underdelivered

[@deforrestation]

The writing has been on the wall since 2142.

[@forrestdalpiaz284]

Actually it is straight false. Game is amazing

[@Matt-uf3de]

“Bf2042 is dying how do we save it?” “No brother. We must help it die.”

[@Disposalist]

I truly think this is wise. 1) It would teach EA a valuable lesson and maybe persuade them to not do this again. 2) 2042 is rotten from the core. You can't fix something that was developed as a Hero Shooter Battle Royale mobile companion platform and turn it into a real Battlefield game. 3) The name is tainted. They would have to do so much work to 'fix' it they are effectively starting again, so may as well have a clean reputational slate with a 'new' game.

[@62shayne]

I don’t understand how they can keep falling on their face over and over and not figure out the problems. Battlefield 1 was the last one I bought, glad that’s how I remember the series.

[@mudmousee]

A wise man once said "No king rules forever" and this has become very apparent in the gaming sphere lately.

[@apexchief197]

Its heartbreaking to see how my favourite shooter series has been handled. I really wish Dice wasn't under EA I feel the higher ups and investors are largely to blame for this mismatch in 2042 chasing gaming trends that work in other games.

[@Badger3k]

DICE hasn't been able to release a game without major parts broken, and took a year plus to fix things, often breaking more things than they fix. The current team is the same. They can't blame EA for their incompetence. If I was as bad at my job as they are, I'd be on the street.

[@cptsaveahoe9494]

This game flopping as hard as it did was actually a blessing in disguise for another small developer who made one of the best fps tactical milsim games I’ve ever played. Insurgency Sandstorm. It just released on consoles fall last year and already has a mass load of content and maps and everything. It’s on sale right now too, you won’t regret it. I’ve met a lot of dudes on there that have recently converted from battlefield as well. Do yourself a favor and go grab it. Insurgency: Sandstorm

[@Devinn504]

Needs more content on console and it needs a visual upgrade on current gen consoles.

[@famousramus2288]

I'll check it out

[@pianospawn1]

Shotguns in that game are hard-core

[@xacvhFAs]

It was full of bugs and borderline unplayable last gen I had it for Ps4 Pro and looked like a ps3 game with the worst port I’ve ever played also it was 30 FPS never seen a 30FPS Shooter since 2005…recently bought it for the Series X for the 60FPS. I’m waiting for it to arrive tomorrow. Hopefully I have a better experience on series X than I did on ps4 pro. I would not recommend getting it unless you have a ps5 or series x.

[@xacvhFAs]

Just wanted to say I got the game earlier than expected today and I’ve been trying it out on my Series X and it’s a whole different game than on my Ps4 Pro! Massive difference in everything graphics fps lighting. I’m just glad I gave it another chance it was really worth it. But like I said before, unless its for a next gen console I would not recommend it. The game is awesome!

[@TheFuri0uswc]

They need rework the maps from the ground up on a ton of maps you can straight up shoot into a teams spawn I also want to return to old points system, I want my kill assist count as kill back

[@AceWolf2009]

Also the whole controller sectors in CQ is just...weird. On a game mode like Frontline or breakthrough makes sense but leave CQ as just capping flags. You can position the flags to more strategic locations that would make sense for a military wanting to capture though. Same thing for Rush, as much as I love the Nostalgic arming and disarming random MCOMM stations is, I'd like something more. Have us having to arm and blow up important things that make sense. Like BFV on breakthrough where we have to blow up AA defense or artillery guns.. I want that in Rush..just to add that bit of immersion and importance. Radar stations, supply depots, airstrip, etc. These would make sense of wanting to attack or defend.. Hell, maybe add in gameplay advantages to them. Taking out the airstrip in a push could limit or take away the number of aircraft the defenders would get for the rest of the match. Taking out the AA defense could limit the defenders mobile and stationary AA capabilities, etc.

[@garrettwilson2626]

It's called base killing. And I remember that shit happening back in bf3. It aint new bro.

[@TheFuri0uswc]

@@garrettwilson2626 and? Also in 2042 it's possible basically in every map

[@verenov77]

Tom Henderson released a video regarding this subject, making some interesting points and suggestions. His suggestion is to just wait until Season 1 comes around in June/July to revisit the game. He makes good points in regards to the past management being the main issue with the decisions regarding BF2042, and that those people are now gone. They've been replaced with new people and that players should just go play something else while the "new guys" try to fix the mess that was caused by piss-poor management. I uninstalled 2042 recently, and have just went back to play the previous Battlefield games, alternating between BF1 and BFV, with BF4 thrown in when wanting the more-modern setting. I'm going to keep my eye on the current 2042 news, in the mean time, and am interested in what DICE can do within 6 months or so. I think by that time we'll be able to see what direction they are headed, and whether or not they are at least attempting to listen to the community. For those wanting to watch the video, here is the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gny6h6KKoKuXebM

[@thestørmcrier2024]

Keep a few soldier models and voices of the specialists and keep them to a certain side and better balance their abilities and what language they speak and it’ll work. But also provide the default soldier skins as DEFAULT cosmetics for class differentiation and a few specialist skins as customization

[@BigRich1911]

*that* light at the end of the tunnel you speak of, is turning out to be a train coming right towards us....

[@flux1787]

It’s just so sad to see a game that when it was revealed was the best thing ever to absolutely plummeting into the worst thing ever.

[@wesleycarmichael1470]

Not sure if anything will bring me back at this point. Money spent was a lost cause but what is really important is time invested and I have just moved on to other games. Just comes down to how much you value your time. Interested to see what happens with the franchise but not interested in playing anymore.

[@alexdasliebe5391]

DICE: Interested in 2042? WES: Oh yeah. DICE: O rly?! Wanna play? WES: No, no. I’m hear to watch what happens. DICE: oh. want popcorn? WES: Yes, thank you

[@Beboroni]

If they wanted to sell cosmetics, why not do like BFV? It had cosmetics AND classes and I never had an issue identifying enemies

[@gamingnotacrime]

The OST , that track which sounds like a violin bow against the side of a saw, i hate that track during the map change, like my head is gonna explode

[@evanmorris3156]

Things that would bring me back to this game (in no particular order of importance): 1. Bring back basic features such as the scoreboard and VOIP and stop calling them “legacy features” they’ve been in every single battlefield games and FPS for that matter so there’s no excuse for not having those at launch. The devs should not be praised or praising themselves for bringing features that should’ve been in the game at launch. 2. Complete rework of the maps. Add more cover for infantry, refine the vehicle system. Even though there’s a call in system I still can rarely get into a vehicle to travel across the massive maps and then I get punished for going on foot by getting blown away by helicopters and tanks and whatnot which makes the experience very frustrating. 3. Bring back classes. The specialists do not belong in battlefield whatsoever and make the game feel like an arcade hero shooter injected with Fortnite and overwatch blood. Give us dark and gritty armies on both sides of the war. Russia and USA should have soldiers not identical clowns running around saying stuff like “I am not overconfident, I’m just better than everyone else” that is so cringey it hurts every time I would hear it. 4. More content. Pretty self explanatory on this one. More guns, gadgets, maps, equipment, vehicles, etc. balancing all of these as you go along which of course will be problematic because balance issues are very common. 5. If you want 128 players then make maps for 128 players not a cluster f*** of people running around trying to look for cover because there are enemies everywhere. 6. Miscellaneous bug and performance fixes across all platforms. All of this along with other reworks and fixes that I probably didn’t touch on. There is a battlefield game in here somewhere because the game has potential but they executed it very poorly and didn’t listen to the fans. I want this game to succeed but I can’t keep buying a game and telling myself “oh well, the game will be better in a year or so”…no…release the game when it’s ready and listen to community feedback that way disastrous launches like this one can be avoided.

[@watrobkasmaczna1]

Fuck this game, it's done.

[@FlyingCoon]

All your points sound like common sense. They did not see this outcome coming and I doubt that they are able to fix this mess.

[@doomplayer7929]

Agree, but they'll never bring back classes, so people should honestly quit using them in lists like this

[@TADP0LE9806]

The gunplay needs to be completely reworked imo. The gunplay feels nothing like the evolution of previous titles.

[@DavidConleyMusic]

Make skins optional AND factional. Solved, revert gadgets and abilities to specific classes, not characters. The problem is the issues are so so so much deeper than that. Almost every element of the game needs significant work. I’m of the opinion revival is not worth the time or resources

[@Apipoulai]

I’m honestly mourning the entire franchise. BF1 was such a success because it was a sleeper hit that even EA had relatively little to time to f it up. As more producer meddling occurred, there was an exodus of people that had made the franchise great. Meanwhile, the already cumbersome FrostBite and its engineering team was spun out into a separate and isolated agency that licensed the engine to EA franchises. No longer did the engine team work in conjunction with the game developers. Regardless of the p-word, working from home especially with a largely new team with little to no experience with the engine or the franchise led publisher and producers make woefully bad decisions. From many sources it has also become apparent that the game we have now was not 3 years in the making but rather 10 months old per the launch date. No wonder the game feels unfinished: it needed at least another year of development! Lastly the game is missing so many features to worth coming back to: * server browser * persistent squads * map rotations on the same server * dedicated servers * ingame voip * full feature scoreboard * 1 click depth weapon customisation * 64 player maps * map zoom for spawn accuracy * vehicle to player balance * battlefield style classes * faction visibility and uniqueness * a decent content plan with at least as many maps, weapons and unlock seasons as bf1 in the same lifespan of the game (2 years after release). * better engagement and trust of the community via CTE, developer standups, ama’s etc. Sadly the EA “studio killer” juggernaut is on course to destroy what is left of DIce. Respawn and the former Dice LA team should be released to work on fresh IP and let battlefield be put to rest. Chalk it up to GrEAd inc. SOP.

[@ThePdeHav]

Please point me to the toxicity Flakfire. EA / Dice’s advertising and pre release comments miss-sold the game and I’m being polite here. They stole money off the community as they did with those who bought the BF V delux edition. However the fixes you list will find agreement with the majority of us.

[@chrisbacon3078]

I think the re-release of the 2042 would be the way to go too.( though yeah, I agree its probably a pipe dream). I'm curious though. How would you 'kill" it first? Would you just totally take the game off the market? Leave maybe just Portal playable? How, if it actually happened, would a re-release work?

[@HGRAP1]

They could follow what FF14 did. Had an event to signal the end and then took the game off the market while they reworked it.

[@Raythe836]

@@HGRAP1 or spiltgate.

[@garrettwilson2626]

@@HGRAP1 how long was it? And what about those who purchased it?

[@HGRAP1]

@@garrettwilson2626 the original MMORPG lasted 2 years and those who had purchased the original got to play the rebooted version for free

[@Disposalist]

Rebrand as BF Portal. Refunds for whoever wants them. Abandon all the dumb ideas like 128 players and specialists, completely rebuild and release as a completely new game.

[@Drivaawwrrr]

All they had to do was build upon a foundation that expanded on bf3/bf3, use the tried and tested class formula, have plenty of gun/vehicle/weapon customisation (and none of that plus-system crap) and they would've been set to make bank. Keeping players/fans happy, and keeping themselves and investors happy with the income. But no. They just _HAD_ to chase the battle royale, skin-buying plebeians and throw long-time players under the bus, chasing that microtransaction money. 🤦‍♂️

[@tanner5809]

I think DICE should be shutdown. It’s clear all of the talented devs are at Ripple Effect (formerly DICE LA) or left to form their own studio. They don’t listen to the community and if they can’t create an actual scoreboard for a FPS game, they have no business developing one. Point is that EA and DICE wasted their second chance.

[@duncanmcgee13]

So is this game their phoenix moment? I had hoped V was

[@Flakfire]

me too

[@caprise-music6722]

Me three

[@cplbruiser8267]

They never learn, just look at the stupid prize this week. A gnome on a pendant. A bloody gnome. How childish is that.

[@gamemoviezone]

I left the game a few weeks ago after experiencing the load-out eraser bug five times in a row. From a AAA title, that just should not happen… what would bring me back? Remove all those dumb voice lines, add objects to the map that provide cover. I don’t think we’ll get a server browser, it’s done deliberately to stop players XP farming against bots, so yeah fix some of the major bugs.

[@crimson_danger8091]

Given the way EA has been, when I hear them say that they are going to "analyze" the specialists, the first thing that comes to mind is how they can add even more cosmetics to them. Nothing like riding into war as Santa

[@gamemoviezone]

Or Woody from Toy Story and soon Jake Dunn from Crysis… who’s driving this?? “Ooo I know what, let’s give them Pinchy from the Simpsons skin”

[@VaneWalker]

I didn't even buy it. I played the BETA and hated the new direction. I'm just waiting to see if they can salvage it. If not, hopefully the next game adheres to the classic Battlefield design. If there is a next game. I hope so, there isn't a substitute for this series.

[@wh8787]

At this point, I think the only chance this has is of they really convert this into a direct sequel to Battlefield 4. They already have a load of concept art, and maybe even a bunch of actual assets for more traditional player classes. I know this would be a major reset but at this point, what do they have to lose? The game is already tanking, it's just resetting it to what it should have launched as in the first place. Additionally, they need to redesign a lot of the maps so they're actually playable for infantry instead of just having horrible open sight lines. If they want to add a load of weapons, they could start with a bunch of battlefield 4 "legacy" weapons.

[@ThePdeHav]

Dice said they listen to the community during the BF V release forego. Their words are hollow. The studio needs to fire all the senior management and hire in some bloody talent at all levels. This won’t happen because Dive didn’t hit certain targets with the last two releases this EA is under no legal obligation to break out the bucks so Dice can hire some fresh talent

[@JP2Guitar]

Great video, Flak. I agree with you in almost everything you said. Hopefully the devs are indeed listening to the community.

[@GraphicJ]

Like you said 2042 needs to die so the franchise can live. I agree with what you mostly said minus the Specialists merging as classes, *but still keeping their hero-like perks* (Flying Squirrel Wingsuit, Woody Spiderman, Boris turret hacks etc), isn't a good compromise. It's still the same problem. Great video Flak, May Angel soothe your soul cause that's how it works sometimes.

[@bgsims]

We need to bring back the support on BFV and continue the already great saga!

[@chaz2187]

What if EA just steps further back and releases new content on BFV, tweak a few things (co-op), add new maps, add realistic ww2 cosmetics for troops and vehicles. Perhaps even do all this whilst they remove 2042, to rework on it.

[@byronfranek2706]

Honestly, the number one thing I want from this game is a smoother and more immersive experience. Hitches in the frame pacing and obvious slowdowns during gameplay are just not acceptable on a high-end PC or nextgen console in 2022. I'd say that number two would be better balance between infantry and vehicles. ATM, tank drivers do not respect the anti-tank weapons because they are ineffective and deployment/reload is way too slow. Number three: we need a server browser. Matchmaking is a QoL downgrade from previous titles. It's akin to trading your car for a bus pass. IMO, all of this could be accomplished by June, in addition to Season One content.

[@KekusMagnus]

The video is on point, but it also clearly outlines why the game is doomed. 2042 is deeply unpopular and opinion around it as well as player count have sank so low that salvaging it will be more difficult than making a brand new game. It doesn't make sense economically for EA to dump more money on this failure when they could be working on a more successful future instalment instead.

[@Flakfire]

It's a harsh reality, and what will probably come to pass.

[@acedrifts]

I 100% agree with everything that is said in this video. I wanted to add that they really need to fix vehicle physics, or leave it how it was in bf4 .As it is right now the controls are so delayed and so unresponsive. I understand that a lot of people don't like dealing with vehicles and think they are overpowered and I have a feeling this is why dice chose to make vehicles difficult to handle so it would make them weaker. But vehicles are a big part of battlefield and what makes battlefield battlefield and that's what drew me to the franchise initially.

[@dencal5150]

i genuinely agree, 2042 needs a hard re-release. specifically about the specialists i think they should also add basic “operator” options so you don’t HAVE to choose a specialist. kind of like the R6S recruit option perhaps?

[@althegamer6606]

So we can give EA more money i rather if my money to thieft then EA and on top if that even they remake the game it can be 69.99 $ it should gone for 20$ cuz of the scaming and EA assholery

[@WhatDoITypeHere]

I’m sure it’s at the bottom of their list, but I’ve really been missing the Platoon functions. In BF1 my brother and I created a Platoon and it’s been growing since, but has come to a screeching halt due to no functionality in 2042

[@Disposalist]

Just another example of a fundamental Battlefield feature that they utterly missed. They just do not care what the franchise is and what fans want. They make games for shareholders and marketing execs.

[@charleynilsson5543]

This game is a scam on so many levels and EA/Dice deserves to be punished for it.

[@joshwongwai3532]

They've been awfully naughty and need a spankin

[@dandy_flandy6624]

Personally I think they should kill off battlefield, work on a titan fall 3 then do a soft reboot in like 2028 or even 2030

[@sgtdealer2916]

I wish the developers would listen to us. Good video!

[@OvraLuren]

My thoughts about the BF series is that they should remake Battlefield Vietnam, just tweak the graphics nothing more before release. Then work in the background with a hybrid between BF3 and BF4 and that would be fantastic. Fokus at making a good game, dont even think about at "fortnite mode aka warzone" it just make developers drift away from working on the game itself.

[@Natetendo83]

I really don't think the specialist gadgets are all that...special. If I'm an engineer I'd rather take rockets and a repair tool, as recon a beacon and C4, or support with C4 and ammo. The specialist gadgets are just...gimmicky and I would prefer to avoid most of them completely.

[@daveripper]

Worst battlefield game EVER, they killed the best FPS franchise of all time. And why would they say now ‘we’ll listen to the community’ utter BS they had plenty of chance to do just that & it fell of deaf ears & we got 2042 garbage with nothing in it that the community asked for or wanted. Bury this shite & start again.

[@digitalmontenegro]

Adding the sub. The proposed fixes to the specialists done by you were spot on. I would be glad to help in any sort of way to get this to someone at DICE. Keep the content, opinions and valid criticism coming. Cheers brother.

[@ThePdeHav]

I’m not convinced Dice boasts the talent, in house, to mend the game / finish the game

[@JohaN-9705]

I hope dice will add better destruction

[@Hayduke3]

@Flakfire there was a video trailer of the original battlefield 2042 without specialists but I forgot where they put it but it's on a website or somewhere but I believe you can look it up on KZbin as well but if they did go down this route it probably would've been great if they stuck with the original idea instead of specific characters kinda like vanguard.

[@forgettablenonsense8734]

3:52 this is a AAA FPS by the way. man literally lines up the shot perfectly at point-blank and it doesn't hit lmfao

[@joshuabannister4419]

My pet peeve with this game is that vehicle xp (for like tanks and planes) is split between factions, it's really annoying to have some unlocks available on one team and not on the other especially since they are the same unlocks

[@Florida_Matt]

Everyone should flood BF4 servers again.

[@zakhinch89]

I don’t think there’s anything they can do to bring this one back, cut their losses and crack on with the next one.

[@ArchangelGabriel]

This game has no problems with 128 players and lots of vehicles, but it has problems if there are not a civilian vehicles and each vehicle assigned has a 30mm canon, that's the problem, there are too many vehicles with canons, then there is Boris with his turret, and if all 128 players play with Boris you will have 128 turrets, robo dogs and canons

[@TookyG]

Yeah the idea that there are too many vehicles is absurd. Vehicles were half what they are now during beta and everyone complained. The maps are large enough for the number of vehicles they have but they need to pull the 30mm from some vehicles and put in quads in spawn...and actually bring back the spawn with vehicles sitting there like in past BF games. Better designed maps would alleviate many problems with vehicles, or lack thereof when it comes to something like quads, but realistically this game is dead. No reason to work on it because it will NEVER get enough players back.

[@GamesDamesFlames]

Relaunch no specialist rework every map to have way more detail. I have at least double the amount of guns it is now at least 14 stages and get rid of filler fields make stages smalller

[@sanbartaganguly9677]

For that class setup... I have a few changes that might be better imo 1. Let's not put Sundance and Mackay in a single class, that class would just be too powerful. 2. We could try a thing where angel and falck are in different classes, falck in medic and angel in support, angel is more of a support, this way both of those classes get a fast rez-er 3. I'd switch dozer to engineer, his resistance to explosives is perfect for a rep tool engineer. 4. Also, I'd say instead of weapon restrictions, a gadget restricted class system would be easier to balance, as dice's weapon balance is already fucky at best, and the fact we just don't have enough weapons, would result in too many overlaps (also right now any hybrid system has to be a quick patchjob kinda thing, requiring as few net changes as possible) 5. I'd rather they get rid of armour, that makes just enough gadgets such that each class has two gadgets out of which they can pick one, I have a full 5 class system like yours and it'd be nice to get more opinions on it

[@hosswindu166]

Thank you for including matchmaking and a server browser on your list. 👍 Your description of my biggest frustration with this game is spot on.

[@KevInfamousYT]

I really respect you for pushing out the most content you could from this shell of a bf game, and sadly I'm not getting in it again, maybe if they re-work the ENTIRETY of this game, then maybe. I'm sure alot of ppl agree with me on this statement but, battlefield is a game i truly love. I grew up playing it and it saddens me to even look at this pos. Anyways, delete everything, the maps, the dumb fucking specialists, the apex like movement and gun play and just make a fucking battlefield game. Ykwim? Shit, I'm 19 finna be 20 and I know alot more of battlefield then half the devs fucking do. Don't push an agenda just make a video game the way we, (the players) like it. we are what make you and at this rate we will be the ones that break you.

[@Bier-money]

The fact you can wingsuit over someone completely killed teamplay mechanics. In past titles you could Prepare defensively. Getting rid of specialists is key. The reason we can never have a metro game mode is because you would have a server full of Boris turrets.

[@VanguardCommanderAC]

4:00 This only proves how little people hear of the game M.A.G it's a PS3 game with games modes that go as hi as 124 vs 124. it was fun had very few bugs and had multiple objectives.

[@rorywatt9752]

Atmosphere, map design and specialists changes are the absolute musts for me, alongside the soundtrack, it sound ok in game, but it’s clear it would fit better in a tv series than it does in a game. Compare ‘oppression’ from bf4’s soundtrack and ‘5 degrees of warming’ from 2042, the difference is night and day and I don’t understand how a game that canonically exists in future bf4 didn’t just bring back skugge or soderqvist, the soundtrack has NEVER been a problem in previous games and that is telling enough to the quality previous designers have upheld

[@infinitedraught1336]

Pretty much everything you said, it's almost what I completely would need to come back to this game that I haven't played since the second week of December 2021. Great video by the way!

[@Kaiserland111]

No no no no no, BF2042 does NOT need to restrict weapons or grenades to certain classes. Gadgets and "Specialist abilities" are plenty to differentiate between classes, but the best change to come with BF2042 is that I can choose my weapon to best compliment my squad and not be stuck with whatever crap DICE decides I get to use. There is also 0 reason to restrict grenades to certain classes. In previous games I hated not being able to take smoke grenades on certain classes to cover a revive, which just makes no sense.

[@Real_MisterSir]

I would love if they revised the 128 player gamemode completely, for example they could divide it into 4 sub groups of 16v16 where you take turns fighting in 4 different locations in a set time period. Then for the 5th round everyone are brought together and you fight for one key central location with limited respawns (or something of that sort). This way you feel the transition of smaller skirmishes first, and then being able to join the cavalry of all 64 players on each side, all storming a common frontline instead of being split up on a massive map. The way it exists currently just doesn't make sense. They have tried to push the idea of Non-patriot mercenaries that don't hold allegiance, but then why are we seeing more players per team, instead of less? Wouldn't the natural incentive be that when there are no established allegiances, that there would be fewer soldiers banding together under a common reason to fight alongside each other? In reality, if anything, they should have made the player count smaller, not larger, if this was the narrative they wanted to pursue. But Dice looked at two different pies at the bakery and decided they wanted to eat both at the same time. But in its entirety, the entire philosophy of BF2042 needs to be scrapped completely. The problem is not the bugs and the fact there are 128 players. The real problem is that at its core, the game is just really bad and lacks any sort of identity. It feels like a mix of COD and Apex ported into a Battlefield game engine, but it retains no soul, no direction. When I sit down to play a game, I choose the game based on what kind of experience I desire. But with BF2042 there is no sense of what that experience is, it's so vague and mellow, and therefore I never prioritize it over any other game. It's not because it's inherently an awful game, it just has no identity and thus no incentive to invest time into it. BF1 and BFV even had tons of identity, you knew exactly what you were signing into when you open those games. Personally I would love if they took BF2042, but based it on the philosophy of BF1. The grandiose feeling, the focus on the narrative and story, you really get the sense that you're just a small soldier in a much larger picture, a real war. BF1 did this to near perfection. In BF2042 we got what? A random tornado that does jackshit. 128 players running around on too open maps like headless chicken with no sense of direction or frontlines, wingsuit and grappling hook people who look like they belong in Apex Legends or Titanfall, and dumbass specialist identities that are totally out of sync with the Battlefield playerbase. There is a reason we as Battlefield players choose to play this game over something like COD or the current trend of BR games. So why the fuck would they throw all that in the bin. Whoever greenlit the concept for this game, are absolute amateurs. I can't believe they get paid to do what they do.

[@m.ezidov8371]

it's crazy to think that you need specialists to provide cosmetics. So many ways to do that without them! Somebody just showed pictures of AI in the game, that look way better. They could just sell these skins, for example. Just not to try copy somebody, do it your own way. Instead of spesialists, one just could give a name to a skin and add whatever story behind it you want!

[@Historicallygamified]

How to bring me back: 1) A proper Scoreboard 2) Server Browser 3) Release a considerable amount of brand new original content in season one. 4) Bring any and all maps and guns from portal mode to the main game...the more content the better 5) Bring back Operation Locker and Operation metro...need me some infantry focused maps 6) cut vehicle availability by 50% on all maps. They are far too powerful and like you stated, I also find myself shooting down helicopters and destroying vehicles 90% of the time otherwise I get melted by them constantly. Makes for an awful experience. Plenty more but just reeled off so e quick ones.

[@targaray]

20% or something is better than 100% of nothing.

[@manubarra]

What really hurts is not the money that everyone of us spent buying this game. In my point of view it is, having really great potential, but missing opportunity to make something big making silly mistakes and not learning the lessons. I hope so much that EA/Dice or whoever hears what you said...

[@tf2mrblonde]

The biggest complain I have is the disbanding lobbies and the lack of server browser. I can sometimes get to the flow of the game even in its current state and I would play another round unless I'd always been put back to the menu screen. They should also quickly replace at least half of the current vehicles with transport vehicles with no guns. Maps could also use more infantry-only areas.

[@novagaming7928]

Having clients as users means the goal posts change when the public narrative does and it's happening to quickly for dice. I really think dice needs a public trollo board to acknowledge + a road map to decrease the need to change to the fast paced narrative.

[@VolkovVelikan]

The only thing that could make me come back to the game is that they use actual soldier models for the respective factions Russians and Americans with their uniforms and all. Basically use the models the ai soldiers have. And throw the specialists to the furnace. As well as more guns

[@vme23]

Squad Revive is one of the best featured added to this franchise. I don't agree that it needs to occupy a gadget slot. I could say the same for the Repair Tool - I would like it to be by default equipped for any engineer class specialist.

[@jrh7178]

Absolutely agree. A total relaunch, where DICE redesigns the core elements of the whole game, is the ONLY way to save this game. No one wants to play on the base of 2042, even if it was filled with content and ran smoothly. Its the core that HAS to change in order for this game to survive. So in short: Fix all major bugs and glitches hurting the gameplay, remove dumb features and add needed ones, overhaul all maps and gamemodes, lock specialists to Hazard Zone and make a proper class system for AOW and lastly make the whole tone of the game more gritty and militaristic.

[@Hayduke3]

If they ever decide to changes the game in a good way I'll come back and test it out if my purchase was right, sadly it wasn't so far, since the games launch... I hope they go back to battlefields roots. This got me wanting to play battlefield v now... This means something that they aren't doing something right when the consumers want to play your other older games that were great or are great now.

[@AceWolf2009]

They don't even need specialists to sell skins, that is what has really confused me. BFV was the the perfect model for Battlefield to have classes but still able to make and sell skins and camo, etc. The classes even had two 'specializations' that you could choose from that would give you passive buffs to certain things. Like the support class choosing combat engineer, letting you build and repair things faster or the Machine gunner that gave you something for handling the MMGs.. That whole system to me was perfect and would have loved to seen it with modern skins and settings. Personally, a hard reset on this title is the only solution I could see that would help. Complete overhaul, then a fresh re-release but not a soft one like you suggest but a hard one. New marketing, new trailers. Not CGI ' engine ' trailers neither but gameplay trailers showcasing the actual improvements and changes they did to the whole game. Give us the menus of BF4, much easier to navigate. Change the UI coloring as well...and/or give us the option to do that ourselves, like in previous titles.. That neon green and red/orange literally hurts my eyes and is just fugly. Make a CTE while they are doing the hard reset, get the community's input BEFORE you solidfy the changes. Of course, having them sign waivers to keep from leaking anything..or, sense the trust is gone from the community, actually encourage the CTErs to share what is going on to the community, etc.

[@darxcyber]

Regarding the lashing out, I moderate a battlefield group with over 23k members and it’s increasingly hard each day time stem the toxicity and rage being posted, we even rented servers on BF1 and 4 putting in weekend themed games to try and turn it around but unless DICE do something soon the community will abandon the franchise even more

[@whitearmourfilm]

Good points but unfortunately I feel this is going to be too little too late, even if they make drastic changes it won’t be what the community wants and player base will be pretty much extinct.

[@mikeobrien4081]

As a dedicated hardcore mode player, BFV wasn't worth my time until 18 months after release. With all the new fundamental problems baked into 2042, I doubt it will survive long enough to get to a state where I'd want to spend my time on it, let alone my money. It's amazing how many times Dice went out of their way to mess up a near-perfect formula.

[@KrisHandsome]

I think that if the Specialists were more like the unique characters from BFV that just modify the looks of your soldier but maintain the class system from previous games they’d be better received. Put some of the stuff like the wingsuit and smart grenades as gadgets. Could also do what some other games have done and have the ability to turn off specialists for other players if you don’t want to see it, rather than removing them outright.

[@sunso1991]

I think 128 player isn't a real problem. The problem is the map design being very very flat and bad. It is without cover. No close quarter no tunnels that protects infantry, and the vehicle call in system need to be limited to drop locations. So they are not just everywhere all the time

[@Terrormaschine88]

I know this is crazy thinking but why not just make a triple remaster pack. It would include Bad Company 2, Battlefield 3 & 4. I honestly think that is something we desperately need to bring people back to this series. Sometimes “new” isn’t always what’s best.

[@daveechronic]

They cut content to bf5 saying it was to focus on 2042, the first investors call they said they were way ahead of schedule, the open beta we couldn't even get on the servers half the time, and then to release such a broken mess with waiting 6 months for any new content.ea and dice have been lying to us from the beginning.i feel ripped off.

[@PHOENIX-sz1hi]

Ya just like they did with anthem.... Oh wait 2.0 was killed XD

[@entrydenialdevice4292]

I reinstalled MW19 just so I could have a shooter that was somewhat fun. If DICE/EA just modeled the specialists like the operators in that game and got rid of the silly gadgets and voice lines then it would be ten times better already.

[@jroker3938]

When he said many players would rather respawed then run across the map that hit hard.. and I play on ps4. Couldn't imagine running across the ps5 maps

[@N0N0111]

It is astonishing that they removed very thoroughly everything that has to do with team play in this game. You can list very easily 10 things they removed from the game to break-up and disrupt team play. I have no more trust in them.

[@asobba10]

I’ve left the game for a few months now and at this point the only thing that is going to bring me back is a full rework such as you have described. If DICE plans to keep toting basic features such a scoreboard as a major update there is no chance I’ll redownload.

[@foxfire1112]

lol the game is only a few months old bro

[@asobba10]

@@foxfire1112 Released November 19, plus I had early access so it’s been out for about 2 and a half months for me. Few usually means 2, so I gave up after playing half a month. Simple math my friend.

[@foxfire1112]

@@asobba10 Bro how do you write that and think you've discredited what I said. You played half a month, why wouldn't you just say that goofy. The game has been out only a few months, your little half a month thing doesn't change that "Simple Math" everyone always gotta try to insult when you get defensive over a nothing comment. Goofy ass dude lol

[@MechE_Emma]

For cosmetics, skin sales are the laziest form of microtransactions unless they really make your character pop. In games like Overwatch, you can get away with flashy outfits because of the theme of the game. For 2042, that's not really an option. The way around this is to implement a system similar to Insurgency and R6: Vegas 1/2 where you have camo patterns, individual armor pieces, and uniform options. Of course at this point, DICE will probably fail to implement that and EA won't allow it because of turn around time. In order to make this system a reality, specialists need to go back to whatever hole they came from and promptly die.

[@adamgeigerjr6995]

what pisses me off the most was the excuse to remove the campaign in order to "focus" on just the multiplayer ... and THIS is what Battlefield fans got for a "trade off" lmfao

[@angelicaavram5309]

Excellent analysis, all major key points describing the disaster that is Battlefield 2042 have been touched and dissected properly. The new "specialists" matrix makes total sense also. My two cents: i think we should let this burning, manure-filled satchel, die out and its ashes blown in the wind of gaming oblivion. It's the only way EA comprehends what a catastrophe they birthed.

[@targaray]

well said on point, only thing i would add is bullet drop for sniper, no quick scoping and slow down time to kill, more like a real Battlefield less like COD and Apex.

[@MrFreddan79]

I played this game for maybe 2 hours in desember. Me and a buddy have been following and playing battlefield since battlefield 2. To say we were dissapointed is an understatement. The first thing that struck me was the complete lack of atmosphere. It is to clean, after Battlefield 1 and 5 I expect grit, dust, ruble, smoke, fire, wrecks and more. The buildings look so fake and clinical. The maps look lifeless, like a game from early years of 2000. Next, the infamous Specialists, I can not relate to them. And I still have no idea what they do, seems to be without any direction. And then, what maybe is the biggest let down, is the destruction. Or rather the lack of destruction. This is supposed to be NEXT GEN, I was expecting destruction on a truly massive scale. But there is almost none of it. I`m playing on PS5 and have gotten used to crossplay in Warzone. I have no problem with that, I startet gaming on PC. Never really took to consolle until recently. Therefore I appreciate support for mouse and keyboard, even on consolle. For those purist that just choked on their Red Bull, relax it`s not like I become a pro-gamer killing everyone. It`s just that after 25 years of PC-gaming I can't wrap my brain around FPS-games on controller. So BF2042 is over for me, I really hope we can get a new release that some what adresses my concerns, but I'm not to hopefull. So EA/Dice, thanks for taking my money and not giving me the Battlefield I wanted.