KNOW THIS Before Buying a M1 Garand. Seriously!

[@dancortes3062]

Excellent advice. I was turned off by buying a M1 through the CMP for a while because of the hoops to jump through plus at the time, this was before the Philippine returns and the CMP was bone dry. A tip for the marksmanship training portion of the CMP requirement (if you do not have a law enforcement or military background or a CCW license) is to do a shooting competition at a local range. Just make sure that you can easily get a printed copy of the match results with your name on it for when you order a rifle from the CMP or visit one of the stores. Store these results since you might need them again if you want to purchase a 1911 from the CMP later. For the gun club portion I would recommend the Garand Collectors Association. This is a universally accepted club by the CMP and the one that most people who purchase rifles and pistols from them use.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Those are some good pro tips! Thanks for sharing 🍻

[@socratesa2536]

You’re overthinking it, literally showed up and showed target holes from a range day for my friend and they counted that as “marksmanship proficiency.” I personally went to the range, shot 50 rounds and had the range supervisor sign a document saying I know how to handle things.

[@dancortes3062]

@@socratesa2536 I tried that. I took the printed document to a handful of ranges and none of them would sign it and acted like they didn't want anything to do with it. All the ranges near me are run by lazy, boomer, fudds that absolutely despise anyone who dares make them actually do their job. That's why I always suggest shooting one day of a pistol league or doing one USPCA match instead. I learned to never count on a range to have cool or competent ROs.

[@socratesa2536]

@@dancortes3062 hu, that’s really unfortunate and odd. But even then, i showed up to the CMP with nothing and just found a random of photo with bullet holes with decent accuracy on a target with no signature and the guys said “good enough for me” and proceeded with purchasing. But i guess if you want mail order you could always go your route if the ranges are all that bad. Just seems super inconvenient to have to pay and sign up for a shooting competition that you might not want to do in the first place.

[@dancortes3062]

@@socratesa2536 All the ranges that have ROs near me, you have to pay to shoot there anyway. For me it was $10 to shoot one day in the pistol league as apposed to the $20 per hour of range time and of course if you left early, you still had to pay $20.

[@JohnJohnson-zz8re]

You nailed it here. I have a CMP Garand I purchased 5 years ago. Looks brand new $700. I feel they should limit them to one per year. Too many take advantage of it and re-sell for profit.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

I think they wouldn’t limit it to one a year until they really started running low on inventory. Just my guess.

[@jvleasure]

Drove to camp perry in 2020 to get a winchester. Bald eagle flew over me on the way home. America.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

🇺🇸😎

[@209_gardens7]

That my friend is a sign and confirmation from God, God Bless America!

[@jwdundon]

Then it flew into a wind farm and was killed.... Liberals have no problem with this... AMERICA.

[@davidholloway5346]

my M- 1 garand was bought back in 1958 from pawn shop in Dallas, Texas for a low price of $65.00!!!! still have it and still shoots great!!!

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Awesome! 😎

[@TrueStrongNorth]

65 bucks was 2 oz of gold. Today worth over 4000.

[@steveb6103]

I became a member of the CMP in 1981, so I could buy an M1. I ended up with 4. 3 are shooter grade, and 1 is a number's matching ( the only one not rebarreled in the 50s) . I would tell anyone who is looking for one to not just buy the first one you see. I've seen a few that are unsafe to fire! The one's from the CMP have been inspected by qualified people, and while they are not prefect looking. They are safe to use!

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Yes and their customer service is great if there happens to be an issue

[@ralphgreenjr.2466]

I purchased an M-1 Garand from the CMP in 2000. It is a Springfield, 1944, that was fitted with a new Springfield barrel dated "65". It is 100% Springfield. The barrel is a "0". I will own it until, I go to Valhalla,

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Whoah! That’s awesome!

[@cjr4286]

To go through the CMP: all you have to do is join the Garand Collector's Association online, then scan your license to carry, and you can purchase an M1 from the CMP shipped straight to your front door (no FFL required). You'll get a genuine forged-receiver M1 for much less than a forged M1a from Bula or LRB. It's a steal!

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Definitely is a great deal for a M1 Garand!

[@T-SwiftsMaritalAid]

You have to have a ridiculous concealed carry license to buy one?

[@Cameron-bk5gk]

@@T-SwiftsMaritalAid No. You need to prove firearm proficiency. That is one of the many forms of proof.

[@Jeff-pc1zu]

​@Cameron-bk5gk That shouldn't be very hard at all with a M1 Garand. A ccw license for a large rifle like the M1 Garand is kind off odd if it's actually true!

[@Cameron-bk5gk]

@@Jeff-pc1zu It is actually true and I agree it may be odd to have to prove proficiency but you're buying it from a Fudd organization. what do you expect lol. the reasona CCW is accepted is because generally speaking you would have much more firearms knowledge than the average person or even average gun owner. Obviously, not always true though. especially now.

[@Mason-zp8yb]

I bought my M1 Garand and 1911a1 from the CMP. I treasure them both and love shooting them. Such a privilege to own a piece of history.

[@rslover65]

I highly recommend making the trip to CMP. Call ahead, sometimes they'll tell you when they're putting up a new bunch of rifles and you can get first pick. And you never know what you'll find, I picked up a minty 1903a3 during the CMP games about 5 years ago.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Yea I wish I was closer, those other US rifles they’ve had were true gems

[@Thin447Line]

I got mine through the CMP. What you forgot to explain was the CMP offers different grades, mostly depending on what's available at the time. I very specifically waited until a "Special" grade Springfield Armory version was available and grabbed it for about $1,000. Special-Grade means a refinished receiver and trigger group with a brand new Criterion barrel and brand new American Walnut stock. I didn't want a "museum / display" piece. I wanted something as close to an original M1 off the factory line ready to shoot.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

True, I have covered the CMP special in other videos before. I guess it slipped my mind on this video

[@timmaxwell2348]

I bought my Garand through the DCM in 1989 for $165, delivered by mail to my door. The serial number matches the production run for 1944. I was participating in Military Match events with a local gun club at the time, so I purchased an after market match barrel for it, which was installed by a friend. Still shoots better than I can see at my age :)

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Nice!

[@JCosme1967]

Thank you for promoting the CMP. While you point out you have no promotional association with them. I cannot think of more deserving firearm organization of everyone's support. I am lucky to live an hour away from the North Store and compete in the National Matches every summer. It is the pinnacle event of my year, every year, for the last 12 or so years. All the proceed of the sales go to support the CMP and the grow their educational endowment for perpetuity... as opposed to other organizations where the money could go for chief executive's expensive wardrobe and glitzy apartments. 😅😅😅

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Yea that’s the amazing part of the CMP, you can actually see what they’re doing in the community.

[@multitieredinvestor183]

Bought an expert grade last month as a gift for my son. The expression on his face when he unboxed it was priceless!

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Nice!! That’s great to hear

[@jetboy770371]

Did you buy by mail or in person at a CMP location ? Camp Perry is on a 45 minute drive for me.

[@multitieredinvestor183]

@@jetboy770371 I bought it on line after submitting lots of information.

[@PaulBellon-bg1yv]

Very true my brother, Gunbroker is full of individuals selling CMP M1’s for hundreds more than you can get them at the CMP.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Sad part is that most of them on GB probably came from the CMP literally within the same month or two

[@markbrennan1393]

I've done 5 M1 Garands from the CMP, two M1 Carbines, and I've had there custom shop restore an M 1917, three M1's and a 1903. A few of those rifles were purchased when the CMP would still mail them right to your door and only cost me like $400 a rifle. I got a 1911, surplus M1 carbine mags and ammo, and a 1903 WWII bayonet and scabbard from them as well.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

The CMP is really good when it comes to customer service and satisfaction.

[@redtra236]

The CMP will still mail them right to your door

[@Subgunman]

Many moons ago I purchased one from a friend, it was a Blue Sky rebarrel in excellent condition and way below current prices considering it was bought 30 years ago. It’s a tack driver at 100+ yards. The demand for these rifles has driven the prices to ridiculous levels. People who pay anything over $1000 are totally nuts, they are the reason why there are over inflated prices on these firearms.

[@earlgeorge7573]

nice informative comments. I only live 80 miles from the North store. It was nice driving there and looking at them first hand.

[@ramiroisram]

Garand prices outside the CMP are insane, Cabela's near me has generic Springfield post war rebuilds and mixmasters for 1800$ and up, some are 2000$

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Yea it’s crazy out there. People need to stop buying at such ridiculous prices

[@darrellruehter9877]

The Cabela’s close to me has some a few Benjamin’s away from $5K ! They were IH & Winchester and i about fell over ! The others were in the $2600.00 + as were the M1 Carbines they had . I was thinking what a good investment I made when I bought all of mine under a thousand dollars each .

[@Red_Star_robin]

@@darrellruehter9877In the past couple years US stuff from ww2 has gone up a lot in price m1 helmets are anywhere from 200-500$ for a ww2 example a us marine hbt fatigue is like 500+ thankfully webbing hasn’t gone up so much

[@andrewgrant2948]

Yes but Cabelas and Bass Pro are modeled to take advantage of the novice shooter.

[@brianfalls5038]

I recently purchased an M1 Garand and I'll admit that I paid a pretty good amount for it but it was also built in 1942 so I was ok with the higher price. The original barrel was replaced with a barrel made in July of 1943 so to me this isn't just an M1. It's an M1 that has seen action from WWII which makes it a piece of history.

[@djgaryg]

great info....i have two from the CMP.....field grade from 2020 that is sweet, and a special rack grade from 2021 that looks like new...went to a local shop about a month ago, they had two Garands going for pretty much 3x what I paid

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Jeez those shops are ruthless!

[@robertgardner4508]

I bought one for $1,399 from a local surplus shop. I didnt meet the requirements for the CMP yet, but the one i got i hesitated on until the shop allowed me to strip the rifle, take a look at everything and the rifle is beautiful. Very good barrel, very smooth operation and the walnut wood stock is gorgeous. Not sanded, or refurbished and its a springfield 30-06. Mix matched parts of course, but i am happy with my purchase regardless. But someday id like to buy off CMP.

[@bruiserbong4001]

Great information! Beautiful property and outdoor buildings!

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Yes it is a historic park that is not too far, Redcliffe Plantation

[@HistoryOnTheLoose]

35 years ago I went to an auction. There were pallets upon pallets of boxed M1s. There were display cases full of Browning Hi Powers. I left with an M1 for about $179, and a Belgian-made BHP for $249 if I remember correctly. Didn't think about buying more, because back then neither were as difficult or expensive to get as now. I still have them both.

[@Lando62]

Nice M1 carbines for $59. I stupidly didn't buy one.

[@andrewgrant2948]

Yeah but that $179 35 years ago is sadly equivalent to the $600 I paid for one 10 years ago.

[@jasontorre3267]

The nice thing about the CMP is, they stand by their products. If it dose not function properly they will repair it or even exchange the rifle. If you are an avid Garand guy I highly recommend going to their build course. You are instructed in how to assemble a M-1and build your own special grade rifle. Sadly this course is done on a lottery basis.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Their customer service is top notch, I know this from experience 😁 they always try to make things right. I wanted to do the Garand course with a friend before the pandemic hit, kinda forgot about now.

[@ScruffySwampYankee]

Unfortunately I fell for buying a CMP M1 Garand through Gunbroker. It’s a 1943 Springfield (all parts are SA). Sickening the amount of people flipping them online. Thanks for putting this video out there so that people can see what to look out for!

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Sorry to hear that, it happens all the time though. I keep seeing people post on FB groups like “just got a M1 Garand from my LGS for $1700, did I do good?” And he’s posted a photo of it with a CMP case. So sad… and yep I hope this video helps do good by providing information to folks. Exactly why I made it.

[@briandavenport8971]

Bought a couple for 700 and flipped them for 1600. Capitalism is great!

[@DelGTAGrndrs]

special place in hell for people gatekeeping a hobby like this and using a non profit to do so. Pathetic ⁠@@briandavenport8971

[@Anonymous-jm1lb]

paid 900 smuckers for my '44 Springfield in good condition from a pawn shop ;) great bore to!

[@hooks_and_horns]

I just bought one at an auction near me. I’ve been on the hunt for one for forever, only reason I didn’t go CMP is I wanted a ww2 receiver and only rack (didn’t want to take a chance) and expert, which was slightly out of my 13 yr old budget at the moment. I got the one at my auction for $1400. It’s got an original walnut stock, 1943 SA receiver, and it was rebuilt by Letterkenny and is national match marked. Went to pick up a clip for it the next day and the dude at the pawn shop liked me so much he went down $200 and I got a almost brand new 91/30 mosin, still some cosmoline and the bayonet, for $300. Being a young gun collector has perks 😂

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Nice! Doesn’t sound bad at all! 😁

[@flyingled3176]

I plucked blueberry bushes out with my excavator for 8 hours, and got my m1 garand and 500 rounds of fmj and 100 ap. Next day root rake with my dozer got a 1903A3 in beautiful condition but no ammo

[@toga1022]

My first CMP M1 Garand was a Winchester in the Grade about Service, cost a little more, but the SN date has it just after Pearl Harbor being attacked, so thought the assembly of this was truly warrior bound . . . .

[@mhammer5]

I bought mine after a shoot in 1981. Sent the paperwork in a the purchase price of $123. Serial date 1945. Mine came in a box from Anniston Army Depot directly to me.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Wow interesting!

[@joshrandall3632]

My dad bought one in '86 or '87 for $165. Only paid for the least expensive grade but because he had so much trouble with the paper work he got a much higher graded gun with a Win receiver. I think that's what happened anyway. Still the nicest, cleanest Garand I've ever seen, and very accurate.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Awesome! Yea I’ve dealt with their customer service within the last few years, really great from my experience!

[@erikhoff5010]

Very good video and information. Thanks for the presentation.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Glad it was helpful! 🍻

[@chs82ndab]

As the man said in the video, be careful and wise when buying outside of the CMP. I've seen these CMP resale rifles on Gun Broker and if that is what you want to do go for it. My concern is the long term availability of these rifles through the CMP. I believe some rifles came in recently from Turkey but after the Philippine rifles are gone who knows. Only so many in the world.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

I recently saw some Danish returns at the CMP. Also there were ones from VFW posts there. But yea, might be real slim pickings in a couple of years

[@davidbell1619]

800,000 sitting in South Korea. Odummy would not let them come home.

[@TrampConnoisseur]

That’s some beautiful property

[@rickhadley1976]

Got my Springfield in 2019 from CMP. December ‘40. Wood doesn’t match lots of dings and I love every one of them, each has a story to tell! At 100 yds shoots a a 4” to 6” group. With out s as doubt the coolest firearm I own. I paid $600 for the rack grade. Wouldn’t sell it for $20 grade. Oldest son and his will enjoy it as well!

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Awesome!

[@PoliticallyInsensitive]

I got a Service grade maybe 4 years ago and a Rack grade a couple years ago, both H&R and '56/'57 respectively. Even though the Service grade looks better and shoots slightly better the Rack grade is my favorite of the two; maybe 1&2" @ 100 using 150gr Winchester SXP SP ammo.

[@zacharybuchanan7268]

I bought an M1 that walked into a military show for $1100, thinking “hell that ain’t bad, they’re usually $1500 everywhere” so I snagged it, turned out to be a duffel bag smuggle, completely non refurbished, it is in the condition as it left the Springfield factory in 1945, all 110% original. I lucked out great. About a 2500-3k rifle

[@DelGTAGrndrs]

Duffle bag smuggles don’t really exist. You didn’t steal from the world’s super power and get away with it back then. Probably unissued

[@johnshields9110]

Long ago, you had to join a CMP afiliated shooting club, plus complete a full range day class and 90 round firing session. The price of the rifle was $140. My wife went through the course a little later, and it was $160, and a 60 course of fire. 1983-84? Those days, or at least the club were had to join were serious about complete the full course of fire. I had a rather worn that kept jamming and breaking, and was required to fire 'an alibi round' to complete the round count. I set the club record that day for Off Hand as I was really good at that, and I believe I used one of the club members personal rifle on that section of the firing. There were lots of people, especially the women, who barely made it through the recoil of the 30-06. One woman fire most of her rounds into the ground about 10 ft in front of her position.

[@jason60chev]

My collecting endeavors quickly outgrew the CMP. Also, there are many who think that the CMP should be a military veteran’s charity or they think that the criteria is too cumbersome/stringent/complicated/unnecessary. …and there are those who proclaim, “I don’t do paperwork!”.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Lol

[@nightstryke]

They can only ship to your house if you live in a free state.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Right, only certain states apply

[@omahaL98]

Great advice bought mine close to 20yrs ago for $700.00 it's a 50's era rifle.

[@Anonymous-jm1lb]

I wish theyd make it a little bit easier to buy.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Yea I guess they can’t just make it as easy as a website transaction. I might ask them why but at least they can ship the rifle straight to your door

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Well in some states

[@stevedavis5704]

Where I live you have to be careful because a lot of the VFW’s are getting rid of their Garands and most of them have not been well cared for.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

I know a Reenactor who would borrow them for reenactments and living history events. Said he always had to clean them real good because they just never maintained them well.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

The CMP also gets Garands from those organizations as well.

[@behindenemylines3361]

I have two, one I bought from CMP and another a friend (which was really-really cheap). Love both of them.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Nice! 🔥😎

[@ewfisher89]

Bought mine at a gunshow. Did pay a bit more ($1,400), but I got to see it in person before buying. Also I thought it was interesting that the serial number ends in four straight zeros.

[@coyotehill2772]

I got my M1 5 years ago for $250. At a local gun store. Almost mint condition on stock. I was told it wasn’t original. The stock they said was from 1945 other parts are from 1939 I think they said. But I have no way to know how to confirm it. Shoots like a champ.

[@donwyoming1936]

Got a safe full of rifles from the CMP. M1903, M1903A3, M1917, M1 Garands & M1 Carbines. They've come a long way since you could get 1 M1 Garand for $99 thirty years ago. I hear they very much want to get out of the rifle business. Their coffers are full. Overflowing. And selling rifles is a distraction from their overall mission of marksmanship training

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Last time I was there, they had a youth air gun competition. I’m not sure if they really wanted out of the rifle business… seems like they make a good amount of money through selling rifles and surplus. They just got the Phillipine returns back in 2017 or so.

[@bob707builder8]

I got both an M1 Garand and M1 Carbine thru CMP. Very happy both guns. Both were very good values.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

That’s awesome! Yea the CMP hasn’t had M1 Carbines for a while. People are hoping they can get a batch out of Korea or somewhere else.

[@mikeframe5450]

In the old DCM days, you'd pay $165.00, and possibly get a mint as rebuilt, or even an original late WW ll or 50's vintage rifle.

[@redtra236]

You can get one for a good price sometimes on gunbroker I won one with a criterion barrel for $1125 in an auction. The buy now ones are almost always gouged really badly though.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

I’m not a fan of M1 Garands on GB, since most are CMP Garands that people flip. Yet, GB still might be an option for folks who are not close to the CMP stores or don’t want to mail order.

[@krockpotbroccoli65]

Got a decent M1 with a hell of a story and a good bore for $1,200 from RTI a couple years ago. I think it was fair. I have nothing against the cmp but im not a member of an affiliated club. I'm also in Massachusetts, so it would probably have to go through an FFL anyway given our unconstitutional registration requirement.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

I do think the story of Ethiopia is interesting, very interesting.

[@krockpotbroccoli65]

@@BattlefieldCurator Indeed.

[@redtra236]

@@krockpotbroccoli65 You might have gotten lucky but I've heard mostly bad stuff about the RTI ones many having broken or missing parts, often times horrible bores, and almost always tons of grime coating the internal parts.

[@krockpotbroccoli65]

@@redtra236I've heard a lot better stuff about the American surplus from Ethiopia than any of the other stuff they had. it seems as if the Ethiopians didn't use the American rifles they ended up with very much. Or it could be that they never got any corrosive ammo for them. Basic maintenance and bore cleaning doesn't seem to be something they ever stressed, so everything they shot corrosive ammo through didn't fair very well.

[@calliber1176]

My dad got his for a hundred bucks 😮from the cmp back in the day he just had to shoot a hundred rounds from a m1carbine its a Springfield armory version with a beautiful stock the quality compared to a Winchester is unmatched the Winchester has a very rough finish you can tell it was forged and the Springfield receiver looks like it was milled it feels like it’s on bearings when you charge the operating rod compared to the Winchester feels very rough even properly greased and oiled.

[@Milkman3572000]

When you handle a M1 Garand you can feel the History. If all you had was an M1, You would be a FORCE.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

So much history!

[@jason60chev]

It is “Ger-and” not “Guh-rand”. Cmp prices actually do not reflect market price for the rifles. $1200 +/- is an avg market price for a decent, even mixmaster M1. So be it, if others aren’t willing to adhere to CMP documentation criteria. They are not a charity nor a regular retail store.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Haha yes, we’ve went over this before and it’s interesting to see how people pronounce it. How do YOU Say M1 Garand? Street Quiz kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3_Oipx4o7egmMU

[@walterdebnam8021]

Great Advice! Thank You. Do they have other weapons

[@BattlefieldCurator]

In the South store, there have been M1903s, M1903A3s, M1917s, Air rifles, and even Krag Jorgensen rifles. Depends when they get surplus and when they put them out in the store

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Read the CMP forums for details

[@glennshiflett6938]

1911's but it is a lottery. You apply for a chance at being able to purchase one. If you are drawn you can accept or decline

[@duglife2230]

Man see M1 Garand. Man buy M1 Garand.

[@Demonslayer666100]

I would like to get one however in canada I see them range from 2500 to 3000. Last gun show I went to there was two around 2900.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Ahhh yea sadly there is not a CMP or related organization in Canada that I know of.

[@kyleschafer6275]

I was lucky that I stopped by my local shop and they had a m1 for sale. Granted I went there right as theyre opening but I managed to grab a Oct 1942 rifle for about $1100. Granted the stock has been sanded and the weapon was post war refinished ( barrel is a from 50 but the rifling is in great shape) but I consider that to be one of my better finds. Did I mention this happened in the last week?

[@BattlefieldCurator]

lol that ain’t too bad for a local find!

[@arshooter1]

Buy from CMP, your support for the CMP helps a lot. RTI M1's are way over priced. I have been a Competitive Shooter for 27 years and have shot M1's at Camp Perry National Matches. The Garand Collectors Association is another outstanding organization.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Yes, the GCA is great!

[@williewilliams6571]

Got mine from DCM (pre-CMP) in the early '90s for $165.00

[@vr4787]

There’s a few too many hoops to go through to buy from the CMP, plus the condition of them is a crap shoot if you’re not close enough to go in person, and the price isn’t that competitive anymore as the supply is drying up.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

A lot of people say there’s so many hoops to jump through, but I don’t think it’s that bad, especially once you make an order. Also, most mail orders are not bad at all, Ive seen some people post on the FB related forums and they have had some stellar ones.

[@lucascady4992]

I paid $1200 for a Select Grade, new stock looks amazing! I bought it In 2015 when most were not available.. I got a absolutely beautiful CMP with the green case! I wanted then and I bought it because I wanted it!!

[@SaintSimonsSportsman]

I wasn’t convinced the CMP was legit. I did some checking and decided to send a package to the CMP. I had a fantastic experience the whole way through. I now have a beautiful M1 Garand. The process is not difficult at all and I had my rifle about 2 weeks from when they received my paperwork.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Glad it worked out yeah at first I couldn’t really believe it. I had a few friends that got them from them and I did some online research and it looked like I was missing out big time!

[@willfriar8054]

it's all about the barrel numbers. it's all in the tag if you go to the store. remember you can buy a brand new stock for $165 bucks. if you're looking for a hard-working rifle that's the place to get one. remember it's all about the barrel everything else you can buy online.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Yea the barrel is one of my main concerns with any surplus rifle

[@PoliticallyInsensitive]

New Criterion aren't that expensive- 350ish. Boyds has stocks but each piece was sold separately last time I looked.

[@johncaccamo]

Got a nice 500k serial number Springfield with original Feb-Mar 1942 barrel, black walnut stock, in great shape and a 1.3 million # winchester, beautiful blonde birch (i think) stock with a worn out 1953 barrel i had fulton armory rebarrel to .308, both better shooters than I am. Cost me about $400 each shipped direct from CMP back in the 2000s…

[@Skilpadjie1]

Any M1 rifle seems to be. As the M1 Carbine also.

[@lewisrovak7696]

There used to be a place in California that refurbished M1s but I don't know if they are still there..

[@revbikerbigd8664]

What's the best ammo to use so it doesn't blow apart???? To much pressure in newer ammo !

[@MontanaWelldigger]

Back in the early 70's you could get a nice Garand for about $60.00- 70.00. Of course I was making $2.30 an hour working at Montgomery Wards.

[@GitSumGaming]

lol if you ever go to the CMP in person, you’ll see a lot of boomers who you know are there for the sole reason of buying six every year to resell at higher prices

[@BattlefieldCurator]

I’ve not seen anyone buy that many at one time yet… but when I do, I’ll know

[@GitSumGaming]

@@BattlefieldCurator most are mail order. But yea they are def being listed and taken to gun shows for higher markups

[@willfriar8054]

considering they were making them during the Korean war some of them are my age LOL. I wish I had parts that were interchangeable for hundreds of years we will be able to rebuild. the CMP is the place to go. make sure to get new springs and potentially a gas plug and then you can shoot anything. they used to shoot 172 grain out of it in the military. just be careful.

[@Strigon01]

Well what if you don't shoot at a club? Which is one of the requirements in order to buy a M1 through the CMP. Than that means some of us is excluded from buying from the CMP in the first place.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

You don’t have to be part of a shooting club. Other organizations or affiliated programs are listed on their website: Congressionally chartered veterans’ organizations such as the VFW, AL, DAV, MCL, etc. U.S. Military services (active or reserves) National Guard, to include retirees Professional 501(c)3 law enforcement organizations and associations such as the FOP, NAPO, NSA, etc. The Garand Collector’s Association is a CMP -Affiliated Club. You can download a Garand Collector’s Association Application Form or by visiting the GCA website.- !GCA is by far one of the most popular choices! Go see their website for more details or give them a call.

[@nlb2000]

Was so lucky to score an IH for 1100 before they dried up, one of my grail rifles so I hopped on it

[@drizler]

The Army issued me one on those 1943 “ Cornbinders” for a sniper rifle in 1977 at a nuclear weapons site. It wasn’t much of a sniper gun with a side mounted weaver scope. Trigger was ok but not much better than my M16 really . It had one very nice curly maple stock on it though. I always swore that if I really had to use it that I would use the irons .

[@robertphillips760]

Good information

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Thanks

[@klingerwvu5253]

Check out Battle Curators' video on how to get an m1 garand through the cmp. I just got mine on Friday August 25, 2023. I couldn't be more happy with it. I used the information he gave to get mine. Thanks Battle Curator Dude.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Thanks for your support and I’m glad it worked out for you! I’ve linked the video in the description and here as well incase anyone reading this comment wants to learn how to get a CMP M1 Garand 🎥 How to Get an M1 Garand from the CMP | Cheapest Deal around! kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooCZgoKeeNKKpLs

[@OneSlwEvoX]

Just purchased my first M1 Garand this week from CMP for $1200 in great condition.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Very nice!

[@wnewbury4]

Bought one from CMP. It came with new wood and it works very well.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Yep, the CMP has a lot more Garands with newer CMP marked wood stocks

[@edl617]

Adding cost of living into the factor. 1200 dollars is equal to what it cost to build one in 1942

[@mattmorrison9379]

Imo, its a shitty move to buy them from CMP and sell them at massive profits. Might not be popular opinion butnthats how I feel.

[@emersonschwarz1364]

I appreciate the video. I finally managed to find someone who will do the marksmanship portion of the order form. I fully intend to visit the north store, as the m1 grand is a dream rifle of mine. Im happy to support yhe CMP, as I don't want to spend the price markup on the collector market, amd the rifles are guaranteed to work, because it's been looked over by expert gunsmith's. I don't mond if they aren't all matching parts, so Long as it's presentable, and safe to shoot. Also, Id rather buy a Grand over the m14 clones. I find the magazines to be so kludgey, and if you replace the gas plug and /or recoil spring, you don't even need to worry about.30-06 ammo. I just wish i had known about the CMP sooner. I look forward to making the trip soon.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Thanks and good luck! 🍻

[@KilljoyS60]

I just got my CMP Expert Grade last month for $1150. I'm active duty so I just sent a copy of my military ID and presto: straight to my door. Ended up with a 1942 Springfield that looks like a brand new gun. It's sad that greedy people are buying 8 a year and flipping them for twice what they paid. That was never the intention of the CMP. I honestly think they should limit it to 1 or 2 per year or maybe 8 for a lifetime... One day the CMP will run out and then the price of Garands will really skyrocket... When that happens a lot of these guys who have bought like 30 are going to make a killing on gunbroker and younger and less affluent enthusiasts will be unable to own Garands.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Nice! I’m sure the expert grade looked great 💯 yea it is sad that they are getting flipped, but I also think that is because not many buyers know about the CMP and don’t realize they are getting ripped off.

[@KilljoyS60]

@BattlefieldCurator that's very true. Well. Thank you for helping to put the word about the CMP. Videos like these will help people not get ripped off!

[@KilljoyS60]

@gt5971 Most people hate scalpers. I'm sure if some millionaire bought all the tickets to a concert or event you wanted to attend and then tried reselling the tickets for 3x what they paid, you'd probably be pissed. Especially if you suddenly couldn't afford it at the new price. And I'm not the only one who feels that way. The CMP should just up their prices to match the going rate if that's the case, at least then the money will go to funding Youth Marksmanship rather that a-holes like you who are lazy and just trying to make a quick buck at everybody's expense.

[@KilljoyS60]

@gt5971 But your analogy doesn't make sense. If somebody went to the Ford dealership and bought all the mustangs and then tried to resell them for 3x times the price, that would be scalping. That's what I have an issue with. Just about everybody would have an issue with that. Apparently, except for you. I don't have an issue with the dealership making a profit. I just wouldn't pay 3 times the MSRP for a car because some d-bag decided to clean out the dealership and flip all the cars. The beauty of capitalism is that I don't have to like it or participate in it if I don't want to. Here's how we can resolve this: Go buy your Garands on gunbroker for $2-3k, and I'll get my from the CMP for $1150 or less ... How about that?

[@wirelessone2986]

Its now 6 a year for next year...CMP were allowing volunteers to buy 5 a day so Ive been told...and I think thats not right

[@chevrolet355]

Do you need to be part of the cmp to go to one of the stores?

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Good question. The answer is no, but only because you can’t have a membership through the CMP. You would have to be a part of an affiliated organization like the Garand Collectors Association (GCA) and meet other requirements to purchase from them. You may be able to go to the TMP store and browse but last time I went to the CMP South Store, they wanted to verify folks had met the requirements before entering the store. You can see this video for more details: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooCZgoKeeNKKpLs

[@randytrashcan]

For me, it's the annoyance of needing to join some sort of marksmanship competition. I shoot damn near every day. I've had a .22 in my hands since the day I was born. I am relatively confident I can shoot better than 90% of gun owners with a rifle. A pistol, no. I need practice and lots of it, I'll freely admit. I don't have much time, and I'm not the magical age of 60, nor do I live in a state that requires a CCL to carry. I'm not going to go out of my way to prove I'm competent to the CMP.

[@banjobones8075]

Bought a service grade with new stock and new barrel for $1200. But i could get from cmp for $900.

[@Vincent-v8l]

Hey man how to buy one from cmp..am about to buy one u help m not to

[@BattlefieldCurator]

The CMP website has a breakdown of how to buy their products. Also, see this video for more details… How to Get an M1 Garand from the CMP | Cheapest Deal around! kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooCZgoKeeNKKpLs

[@chrischiampo7647]

CMP is Great 😀😊

[@johnzajac9849]

Why aren't gun makers making working replicas of the M1 Garand?

[@boxertomus]

I bought a CMP Expert grade for $2600 some guy bought it from the CMP and flip it at a gun store. I still think it was worth the buy for a high price.

[@Kaktus965]

Why could you not have bought from CMP & saved $1500?

[@redtra236]

$2600 is insane even RTI is only gouging them to $1600 you got took if it was a run of the mill expert grade no offense

[@boxertomus]

@@Kaktus965 Because at the time I didnt have my FFL03 but now I have it.

[@boxertomus]

@@redtra236 Dont worry I put it on a credit card after a year and so went by I went bankrupt and also got a couple of free guns that I had put in my credit card.

[@redcat9436]

I got my M1 and 1911A1 from the CMP.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Nice!

[@Joe-ie8vk]

These go for two grand locally and more at my local gun shows there seems to be a lot of them we’re I live. I have a buddy who has one he got it from his buddy who claims he got it from the cmp. It was a matching numbers international harvester . I don’t think he went there and picked it out or anything so i guess what I’m asking is was he just super lucky or do you actually have a chance at getting a good one when ordering online or by mail?I seen and shot the rifle so I know the markings are international harvester. It looks like I was never issued could it be a fake? Or can you pay more to pick higher grades? I just always wondered if this dudes story lined up that’s the only part I could never verify.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

For the most part, if you do a mail order for a Garand, you get a really nice one depending on grade. Even some of the rack grades have looked pretty decent. I have not mail ordered one but I have seen forums and Facebook posts about people getting them throughout the years.

[@Joe-ie8vk]

@@BattlefieldCurator can I ask you one more question. Mostly cause I can’t find the answer on google and it’s bugged me for years. It was marked intentional harvester but it said like 1943 on the receiver behind the rear sight but according to what I seen online they didn’t make them untill the 50s. Could it have been someone putting fake date on it Or could international harvester be using old World War II parts? It’s always bugged me why it had those markings I know the guy claimed to have got it through the cmp.

[@TheMike31b]

Well, I got one that was 1899 but it's in 308 so it's rare.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Yes those are definitely harder to find, CMP may have some every so often but not enough for demand it seems

[@redtra236]

CMP has the .308 ones under 1K

[@behindenemylines3361]

RTI has them but they are pricey!

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Yea, I’m just surprised they can’t be a bit more competitive on price with the CMP

[@krockpotbroccoli65]

I'm glad RTI brought them in and sold most in original condition. Mine is awesome. Shoots great, has battle scars and finish wear, but that old war horse has some history to it.

[@robwolfeauhunter8349]

Paid 2700 canadian for a 1943 springfield in canada cause i cabt use cmp even though i know about them

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Yep, different countries. Too bad the CMP doesn’t have a Canadian program.

[@Canadian_Whiskey]

Yep, Garands are rare here in Canada I got a Springfield M1 Garand 1943, 30-06 as a birthday gift from my wife, paid $4000 Canadian in May of 2022 and it was purchased at a firearms retailer. I call it the historical tax lol if you want the original manufacturer (Springfield) & in 30-06 you pay that unfortunate price, all the other Garand’s I’ve seen in .308 go for around $1900-2800 price point. but hey all in all, I’m a proud owner of it and enjoy every bit of it. Ps. I wish we had a cmp

[@t.m9341]

700? I'm not seeing functioning looking ones for 700.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

The Last Time I went to the CMP, I got This M1 Garand…

[@DesertRat.45]

The garand is over priced everywhere you go. 700 is even to high

[@metallicaman153]

join the garand collectors association, fill out the paperwork with a copy of your LTC. takes about half an hour, and a M1 will be ar your door in a week.

[@redtra236]

Usually takes way more than a week but its worth the wait

[@wildoats1903]

Wish they would bring down the yearly limit. It’s ridiculous the amount of A Holes that buy them and sell them for way more than they are worth

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Yea, but I’m sure they make a decent amount of money from having a higher limit. A TMP range safety officer once told me that folks who come and buy Garands is what helps them keep their jobs

[@mattstarr8203]

bar came around before lol

[@BattlefieldCurator]

The BAR1918A2 was placed in a squad support weapon or light machine gun role. It wasn’t the primary standard issue rifle.

[@1CATALDO]

🔹GREAT INFO🔹 New Sub here 😊 Sep 5th 2023

[@BattlefieldCurator]

Cheers 😁🍻

[@sqwk2559]

And YOU should know that M1 Garand wasn’t issue in Vietnam. That’s embarrassing for you.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

It was used in Vietnam, not as standard issue but there were some. A friend and Vietnam veteran also confirmed this.

[@redtra236]

It was issued some in Vietnam especially to South Vietnamese forces and even to some US forces in the earlier parts of the war

[@AlAxford-di6ic]

GARand not gaRAND!