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@pyeitme5083 жыл бұрын
Wow
@stastu64843 жыл бұрын
This format of combining your organisational analysis and talking about a battle is amazing. Your map animations are also very good. Keep up the good work and do more of this format please
@shivanshkumar79233 жыл бұрын
Amazing dude
@thegodfatherplays.39073 жыл бұрын
I am a huge WW2 military tactics fanboy. Watched a lotta documentaries, mini docs like urs. You did a very very good job with visual representation. For me battlefield TV series is the peak, u did something even better visually than that TV series.
@sjcnacharles26133 жыл бұрын
Enjoy this style of video a lot. It seems to have a large amount of research behind it which is great! the videos editing really is enjoyable to watch. Keep up the great work!
@Tacitte3 жыл бұрын
It s so good to see a video in English about the French during ww2 which isn't just "French bad French surrender" and it touched me especially because I live in those towns and this battlefield is very familiar to me
@czwarty78783 жыл бұрын
Those who know, know. If someone makes stupid jokes about surrender and white flags you instantly know they have no idea about WWII and can freely ignore them
@mythicdawn95743 жыл бұрын
@@czwarty7878 Too bad this part of the population (even in france to some extent) is the vast majority and shapes the culture with movies, stories, songs, and even youtube videos. And in the part that knows, there is a big portion that don't really care. For example, Dunkirk movie from Nolan silently aknowledges the French with... only one scene with French guys holding a line. Then, the main French representation is a soldier trying to pass as English to flee. And the whole movie, while being in France and being symbolically the last battle before French surrender (yes there were others but you get what I mean), finds a way to only be about the Brits escaping (which is also a great story, and something to be proud for the anglos of course). The movie covers the theme of sacrifice (to save others), but does not talk about the "pointless" sacrifice of the French forces who are now fighting a lost war (for France, of course Britain is still in the game) only for pride / honor at that point. I think this is the biggest "missed opportunity" to rehabilitate the French in anglo medias in recent years.
@remyfaviana87573 жыл бұрын
@@mythicdawn9574 i agree 100%
@Nico-cj8wq3 жыл бұрын
@@mythicdawn9574 You said everything. I refused to watch that movie when I knew there was nothing about French fights.
@eulbart3 жыл бұрын
@Jules Indeed, and a pretty good video at that. (I grew up in Charmes ;) )
@raphaelconte72673 жыл бұрын
My great-grandfather was in the 5th free french armored division, as a shooter in a sherman tank, he was wounded at Verlans while all the tank crew died, he passed away recently, I would like to thank you for talking about the free french forces of the late war and the conquest of germany, this being a fascinating but uknown subject. Thanks a lot
@tosstony66313 жыл бұрын
Verlans ? Postal code in France ?
@raphaelconte72673 жыл бұрын
@@tosstony6631 70400
@tosstony66313 жыл бұрын
I live au 5 minute thàn verlans,im french ! Send me a private message and i go to verlans take a picture of the monument of the death !
@raphaelconte72673 жыл бұрын
@@tosstony6631 he doesn’t died in verlans, he fought in verlans but he passed away this year
@jensjensen90353 жыл бұрын
In English it’s great grandfather
@clarksavage60503 жыл бұрын
Wait, the tactical group Billotte... commanded by Pierre Billotte, THE Pierre Billotte of Stonne? Whose B1 Bis destroyed 13Panzers in a single engagement in 1940? You ought to have mentioned that..
@TheLoxapac3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is him.
@leorodrigues73683 жыл бұрын
Billote looking at the germans : Guess who's back? And with new toys to kick your ass!
@vic_r0233 жыл бұрын
Proof this dude was a great tank commander
@TheLoxapac3 жыл бұрын
@@vic_r023 This guy is a legend !
@nicolasbertrand39323 жыл бұрын
I think Pierre Billotte had left the 2nd DB at that point and was general of another infantry brigade. The group kept his name.
@k.g.b58163 жыл бұрын
This is a incredible example of battle, i am amazed by the efficiency shown by the french forces here.
@SoloRenegade3 жыл бұрын
well, they surely had some pent up anger to channel into focusing on winning with great efficiency.
@DrLoverLover3 жыл бұрын
With air superiority by the USAF
@SoloRenegade3 жыл бұрын
@Marcelo Henrique Soares da Silva who wants to die when they know the yare going to lose the war at this point?
@canicheenrage3 жыл бұрын
French troops have been extremely efficient during the entire war. Hitler called them second to germans only in combat. The caricatural view most americans have of the french in ww2 requires decades of omissions and falsehoods when recalling history.
@VIDEOVISTAVIEW20203 жыл бұрын
@Marcelo Henrique Soares da Silva and with the allied air superiority, the result is a foregone conclusion
@williamballangarry29953 жыл бұрын
The French 2nd Armoured is actually a great story. Not just the military aspect, but the political one as well. Those boys fought just as hard as any, and that formation deserves every bit of credit they get.
@herpderp31312 жыл бұрын
Only thing france ever destroyed in war is their reverse gear.
@williamballangarry29952 жыл бұрын
@@herpderp3131 Not a student of history, huh?
@wizbromanakajeffthejoykill76352 жыл бұрын
@@williamballangarry2995 What did they say? It got erased.
@jpc71182 жыл бұрын
And began the fought from the french equatorial africa in 1940 (yes in 1940 and never ceased fight) till 1945 in berchtesgaden...
@AXEL201211 Жыл бұрын
Yeah not a single french XDD morocans argelians and spanish civil war veterans
@eetutorri87673 жыл бұрын
One thing I would like to point out that this was actually the first battle for Panzer Brigade 112 and many, many of its soldiers. Formation of Panzer Brigades 111, 112 and 113 begun on 2.9.44 by forming from 3 training centers. They begun transfer to front on the 5th. This battle took place in 11-13.9. Unit was formed, equipped and destroyed in less then 2 weeks!
@demonprinces173 жыл бұрын
The germans were whipping out these units by wars end, soldiers from anywhere, brand new vehicles, infantry in tanks
@flo__603 жыл бұрын
just like the French in the invasion of France, conscripts were drafted and given a B1bis then sent to the front without training to speak of some tanks were scuttled after running out of fuel on transit because they weren't told that the fuel wouldn't go to the auxiliary tank until you toped up the main tank, cutting the autonomy by 3 or so other tank would break down due to maintenance mistakes for the same reasons.
@pak40l463 жыл бұрын
@Marcelo Henrique Soares da Silva Panzer Lehr was mostly destroyed by Allied bombing around D-Day. It was attached to the I SS-Panzerkorps. Destroyed in naval and aerial bombardment along with them was the 12 SS-Panzer Division 'Hitlerjugend'. Fritz Witt and most of the division leadership staff were also killed. Plus, the French did not face any good German units. They either had been destroyed or were on the eastern front. Even the Waffen-SS units were rebuilds after having lost most of the panzers at Tarnopol, Western Poland or during Bagration. So this video is a misnomer. Examples: 1 and 2 SS-Panzer, both were in France for rest and re-fitting. 9 and 10 SS-Panzer had relieved Tarnopol and desperately needed re-fitting. 21 Panzer was understrength and poorly led. 2 and 9 Panzer had not received their allotments.
@roybatty19722 жыл бұрын
As the germans in 1940. They always faced the easier picks, and got praised for their efficiency. The frenchs, in the other hand, had no air superiority so they fought without supplies, without proper communications, outnumbered on every attack without recon...
@ChristopheA-dd5we9 ай бұрын
@@flo__60 no it's completly different, you should read the meory of Charles De Gaulle, it allows to avoid saying bullshit :-)
@canicheenrage3 жыл бұрын
Sidenote, the naval infantry-crewed tank destroyers had excellent range estimation...Having installed a few scavenged naval rangefinders on their wolverines; And the p47s efficiency was reinforced by the french tanks which, on top of direct radio link with the french commander, were shooting coloured smoke shells to indicate german tanks positions.
@sol25443 жыл бұрын
I fly flight Sims and gotta admit. Colored shells make life 500x easier for CAS.
@condorX23 жыл бұрын
World of tanks need this kind of feature. We're train to chase after red HP bar on the screens to much, like a cat chase after a red laser pointer 😂
@sergevandyck3 жыл бұрын
Glouton ???
@canicheenrage3 жыл бұрын
@@sergevandyck Oui, le m10 glouton pour nos amis québécois.
@Ocker32 жыл бұрын
Didn't know about the naval range finders, genius move
@smithsanity27272 жыл бұрын
It’s cool to hear of battles like this from the French’s perspective instead of just the American or British battles. I’m an American saying this as well. I’m not naive and know that they too played a crucial role in liberating their own country and helping with the offensive into Germany. Unfortunately, you just don’t hear much about what they did in American history classes growing up lol. Respect to the French military on such a decisive victory.
@roisanglier34 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for France 🇨🇵♥️🇺🇸
@PablitoAndCo3 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda surprised that the 2nd Blindée and the French and French colonial forces in general don't get much recognition from this battle, the lesser known Colmar pocket or their combat actions in Italy. Specially the mentioned Regiment du Marche du Tchad, which became specially notorious for being the first allied unit to enter Paris with their 9th company, formed by Spanish republican exiles (and ended the war alonside the 101sr AB division in the Eagle's Nest). Good video my dude.
@austerlitz73443 жыл бұрын
They had in France by a part of the population, but the gouvernement and leftist prefer to call us nazi with vichy régime and coward with 1940 defeat
@pw60023 жыл бұрын
@@austerlitz7344 Yep, the Vichy regime was nazi. No, the french weren’t cowards in 1941, but the victims of a highly incompetent (right-wing) government who had been unable (or unwilling…) to take the measure of the german threat and to arm the country accordingly.
@austerlitz73443 жыл бұрын
@@pw6002 they wasnt nazi, nazi is a doctrine
@rollolol60533 жыл бұрын
No, Vichy wasn't exactly nazi per se. It had some fascists political parties but its governance, as Francoist Spain, was more centered around ultraconservatives than fascists.
@MatthewVanston3 жыл бұрын
@@pw6002 Vichy was a lot less "Nazi" than Parisian Nazi sympathizers...
@MyMagicalPeanut3 жыл бұрын
This is brilliantly presented. I can’t imagine the amount of work that went into this, but clearly it’s well researched and professionally presented. Congratulations!
@EricEscander3 жыл бұрын
My grandfather fought for the free french forces. He was part of the invasion of Southern France. He was proud to be French. Vive la France!
@fortcarillon6153 жыл бұрын
From France....Many thanks to you for this beautiful page of the French army. After years of "French bashing" it is worth recalling that the Germans suffered more human and material losses in May-June 40 than during the first 6 months of the Russian War, and also the 3 months that followed the D-Day. (156,000 dead and wounded, 1,000 aircraft and 1,800 tanks). Our soldiers did not surrender. They lowered their arms in obedience to the power in place, desiring the armistice. Thanks again. Vive la France !
@user-yf4up2px2u Жыл бұрын
Absolutly right. Loss in 1940 was mainly tactical and then political. But all tactics then in 1940 where still inherited from previous war. Only some generals on each side believed in regrouping tanks in one sole division and using air + armor full coordination to pierce. on french side, you had General Estienne, and De Gaulle of course. On German side, Guderian ! the difference is that on the german side, GHQ and Hitler decided to follow this way. Not to forget neither that the first german plan in 1940, was to push through Belgium. And it's because the plans where discovered by the allies, that Hitler changed and adopted Manstein's plan to go through the Ardennes, and gained a major tactical surprise ! Things would have been different otherwise. And as you said, even though, the campaign of France was a harsh one for germans, on wehrmacht side and as well on luftwaffe side. The loss of many aircraft will be very usefull for the battle of britain.
@yossarian78593 жыл бұрын
As a former battery commander of 2nd battery / 40th Artillery, which supported Subgroup Minjonnet, it's a pleasure to watch this kind of video ! Kudos to the Battle Order team. Edit : I meant as a recent former Bty commander. I wasn't there, and not that old 😉. This battle is actually not well known even to my regiment. I'm proud Battle Order chose it for a video.
@IoachimSavianPopovici3 жыл бұрын
Someone from the actual battle... Amazing!
@visegradi3 жыл бұрын
@@IoachimSavianPopovici Read the edit, he wasn't there. From what i understand of his comment, i think he means that he was the commander of that unit after the war.
@IoachimSavianPopovici3 жыл бұрын
@@visegradi Thank you for the heads up - I think he edited it after my comment
@luongo78863 жыл бұрын
You are Armenian who served in the US Army?
@jeanbresson38222 жыл бұрын
J'ai passé 6 ans en B2, c'est vrai qu'on en a jamais entendu parler !
@tremendousbaguette96803 жыл бұрын
The finest use of cartography I've seen so far on this type of channel. Instant sub. If you ever consider narrating other engagements in France, know that you can use aerial pictures (IGN's geoservices WMS/WFS links) from the '50s and 60s to get rid of the unsightly postwar-built highways. There are even some visible trenches remaining around Arracourt (hint hint).
@okadai28173 жыл бұрын
Battle of Arracourt was sick
@tanakadingdong91703 жыл бұрын
Yes dozens of tank wrecks are still visible in 1947 at Hatten/Rittershoffen. Panthers, M3, M10 ... The biggest tank battle on the western front. Operation Nordwind: after Patton moved north to stop german offensive in the Ardennes, germans attacked Strasbourg the french decided to hold it. At Reipertswiller an entire US bataillon (800 soldiers) surrendered; will this be the next video?
@mashattack5513 жыл бұрын
dude your use of satellite imagery to describe the battle is top notch!
@BattleOrder3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@DeltaComrad3 жыл бұрын
Absolute 10/10 production quality! Providing breakdowns of what units were involved, highlighting territory and defense lines on satellite maps, and using models to shows where the fighting actually happened.
@D3R3bel3 жыл бұрын
Jesus fucking christ your work is the best view of any battle on youtube i have ever seen. Never before have i felt so clearly the strategic and tactical situations presented in any medium showcasing any battle. Keep up the work, and i hope you will find major success with this channel.
@louisvieille-cessay67823 жыл бұрын
The commander of the navy fusilliers tank destroyer battalion (11ieme RBFM) under Massu was a great uncle of mine. I read about this battle in his war memoirs. Great to see this laid out on a map. His batallion ended the war with a 10-1 kill:loss ratio, the highest in the war for any armoured batallion. The secret: he’d had surplus navy cruiser gunsights fitted to his tanks!
@76MUTiger3 жыл бұрын
What is a Navy Cruiser Gunsight? How would it be applied to a tank cannon (if you know)?
@jean-pascalesparceil90083 жыл бұрын
@@76MUTiger He means the optical sights of the cruiser's guns, probably 90 mm or 75mm AA modèle 1924. Could these be mounted in place of the gunsight of the 3-inch M7? This tank gun is too a version of an AA gun, the 3-inch M1918.
@louisvieille-cessay67823 жыл бұрын
Not AA but antiship guns Jean-Pascal though I’m not sure about the exact models. It’s possible the models used were not homogeneous from tank to tank. @76MUTiger The 11th RBFM was batallion created in algeria in ‘43, equipped with “second hand” tank destroyers. These were in effect fast, lightweight tanks with big guns. The RBFM was assembled from sailors who no longer had ships (most French navy ships were destroyed by a british surprise attack in Mers El Kebir in 1940 or scuttled in Toulon in 42 to avoid capture the unfuelled ships being captured by the Germans) but were keen to fight. The sailors assigned to fire the tank guns were trained and experienced at firing artillery from moving ships at other moving ships at further distances than what they were being asked to do with their tanks. On their ships, they had optical sights to aim at their targets. This allowed to offset for distances and movement as well as terrain for the traied user. The “Low end” tanks they were given had simpler sights with no optics. Getting the surplus optical sights on to these tanks (with trained gunners!) was like putting a lens/scope on a rifle you’ve just given to a trained sniper. They picked off German tigers and panthers from beyond their enemy’s firing range. Earlier in ‘44 when the second French armoured division liberated Paris a tank destroyer from the 11th RBFM took out a tiger at the foot of the obelisk on place de la concorde from the Lido in one shot. This detail is one of many that made the French 2nd Armoured Division so successful.
@seanmac17933 жыл бұрын
@@louisvieille-cessay6782 so he took old naval range finders and used them on the tanks?
@nicolasvanhorton50433 жыл бұрын
I am French and I would like to thank you for explaining this battle so well ! Thanks to you, history is not forgotten !
@particuliervdm86033 жыл бұрын
The amount of work, the level of details, the quality of the writing and of production are insane. Congratulations!
@srfrg97073 жыл бұрын
The 2nd DB is a legend. I must emphasise though that it's not only french individuals who helped the French soldiers with intelligence but also the entire french administration. The mayors and their deputies, the employees of the post and telephone administration, public servants etc. At that point of the war, the French Republic is back in power in Paris and has contacted all the local administration to restaure legality and authority. The municipalities still under german occupation were contacted by phone when the lines still worked or by the resistance. Every public servant was willing to demonstrate it's loyalty to de Gaulle and patriotism. Among the true patriots there where also those who served Petain with too much enthousiasm before the wind turned and tried to end the war as members of the resistance.
@Frewnette3 жыл бұрын
This is a really good video sir ! Being French, the battle of Dompaire is not really known ! Good job ! General Leclerc (real name Philippe de Hauteclocque) was one of the best general for the French during ww2. Prisonner in battle of France, he escape, and join De Gaulle. The first blow he won, was the battle of Koufra, where he take a fortress with 1 truck (not made for desert landscape), 400 guy with WW1 Weapon, 1 75mm canon also from WW1, and win this battle, mainly by ruse and bluff. But there is some other great general in WW2, you have Koenig, in Bir Hakeim, he fought at 1v10 for 15 days, against Rommel and the Africakorps, without Bir Hakeim, El alamein would have been lost. And you have General Juin who won the battle of Monte-Cassino with Polish troop with him.
@glenchapman38993 жыл бұрын
However the French inflicted exactly the defeat you would expect against such opposition.
@mattn49253 жыл бұрын
This channel may be the highest quality battle breakdown content on KZbin. Very well done. Immediately subbed.
@ksmatch063 жыл бұрын
Amasing job ! One of the best tactical representation of a battle i've seen so far on YT and on a not well known battle on top of that. Please continue.
@BattleOrder3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate we appreciate it
@LeCrabeStratege3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, almost no one in France knows about this feat of arms. Nowadays, French schools focus the "France during WW2" segment of history classes on how evil the Vichy Regime was, while treating the Résistance and Free French Forces as footnotes.
@ekonomija87183 жыл бұрын
I'd say the Resistance definitely isn't treated as a footnote. An entire chapter in the standard curriculum in 1ère and Terminale is dedicated to "the memory of the resistance", although yes it's a much more societal and political analysis of how the resistance was perceived, rather than their wartime actions
@LukeBunyip3 жыл бұрын
Bir Hakeim, the defense of Syria by Vichy forces, etc etc etc. It's a popular trope amongst anglophile armchair generals to make disparaging comments about "The French!", but this very battle demonstrates that the Gauls are capable warriors. Je les salue.
@nolletthibault20313 жыл бұрын
Personally I'd say that the resistance is overrated while the Free French army and French forces fighting alongside the Allies especially in 44-45 are underrated. By the end of the war France fielded 1.3M soldiers despite still reeling from four years of occupation and semi-civil war.
@josepetersen71123 жыл бұрын
We get the same I the States, to some degree. Instead of studying the course and facts of the war we study societal perceptions and reinforce stereotypes.
@SN-xk2rl3 жыл бұрын
Amazing. The resistance should be celebrated. Good people.
@quentin69503 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather was part of the 2nd armored or 2emeDB ! He was wounded in the very first combats that they encountered in Normandy getting shrapnel in his back and being the sole survivor of his vehicule. Thanks for acknowledging their feats in battle
@MC-cg2rr2 жыл бұрын
OMG he was the sole survivor??
@Thomas-dr9nn8 ай бұрын
The Dompaire battle is a great example of the efficiency of French soldiers when they're equipped with the right equipment and are able to coordinate at the best of their capacity.
@PraiseKéké3 жыл бұрын
Group Billotte was led by Pierre Bilotte, who commanded the B1 Bis that destroyed 13 PZs in one day in 1940. Edit: I also think french actor Jean Gabin was among the fusiliers marins in this battle, as he served with them in an M10 in the 2e DB
@sarrumac3 жыл бұрын
Yup, he knew a thing or two.
@bodkinrappallum61373 жыл бұрын
Brilliant content fellas. Very concise, very gripping, very informative. You have certainly found a great balance of information density, rate, visual aids and vocabulary. Well done as always!
@outsider95993 жыл бұрын
Amazing, you make this so clear! The sattelite map really help to understand how the terrain was. And the detail of all the emblem of the bataillon added, great idea. Greeting from France
@RayLovesToMakeMusic3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Really like the combination of animation and photo maps. Great example of how battles are a series of platoon and company sized engagements.
@bustead23 жыл бұрын
I think this is the perfect example on how important recon is. The French had the upper hand in tracking German movements and planned accordingly. Also, the Germans did not know what they were up against because of poor recon during the initial stages of the battle
@davidcox30763 жыл бұрын
The French deployed their recon units very well. And it didn't hurt that they had the local civilians keeping an eye, too.
@terraflow__bryanburdo45473 жыл бұрын
It is pretty clear that the Wehrmacht units in this battle were of inferior training and not really capable of good recon and intelligence.
@stania38143 жыл бұрын
@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 u should add to ur sentence "at the end of the war" 😀
@terraflow__bryanburdo45473 жыл бұрын
@@stania3814 Edited, thanks.
@stania38143 жыл бұрын
@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 u are welcome! ...from Russia with love! 😀
@vitalguillin11773 жыл бұрын
Very pleasant and complete presentation of this battle, with units, their positions and moves on cards...Great job!
@Nettempereur3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for this quality content !
@mrjohnbrush3 жыл бұрын
Vous ici? Ça ne m'étonne pas 😉
@Nettempereur3 жыл бұрын
@@mrjohnbrush Ce doit être mon "French flair" ^^
@eulbart3 жыл бұрын
The "Corse" and "Champagne" Sherman tanks are still over there, as monuments to the battle of Dompaire.
@seanmac17933 жыл бұрын
preserved or left to the elements?
@fachosphere11452 жыл бұрын
@@seanmac1793 preserved ;)
@josephfranzen91962 жыл бұрын
Historically the French get a bad rap. In 2010 I was with the 82nd 1st/504th in Afghanistan and we worked closely with a number of French elements. They were squared away soldiers and extremely competent shooters who were a pleasure to work alongside with.
@walrus10743 жыл бұрын
So close to 100K, early congrats. Also would you do something about Turkish/Greek militaries and how they face off in the Mediterranean/Aegean?
@jankopransky25513 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Do turkish army!!
@alqaeda70403 жыл бұрын
Both military bad
@fachosphere11452 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was the "Champagne" n°55 driver .... fun fact about his engagement, he told me: they left a big Swiss cheese wheel inside the burning tank .. they escaped with "mirabelle' alcool bottles which they drunk while watching the tank burning for many hours . Glory to this now dead man .
@TheSid423 жыл бұрын
I loved this type of content the down and dirty unit movements fascinate me keep these coming!
@Sergio1Rodrigues3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a battle so thoroughly explained. Loved it
@jai40853 жыл бұрын
Top notch stuff. Always loved your videos, but covering a battle this way was really nice.
@30CalSurprise3 жыл бұрын
Really good content, great graphics and a good way to convey tactics. Would definitely want to see more of this
@remiflorquin26883 жыл бұрын
Great job, love this video! Thank you for that.
@BattleOrder3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@ciancooney51953 жыл бұрын
Commandant Massu would go on to become a very famous paratroop General and would fight in the Suez campaign and the Algerian War. He would be involved in the toppling of the 4th Republic and the return of de Gaulle to power as President. However, the venerable leader of the Free French would remove him from his post as Commander in Chief of French forces in Algeria in January 1960 after Massu openly criticised his Algerian policy in an interview with a German newspaper. De Gaulle would later ask for Massu's help during the May 1968 student protests, wanting to ensure the loyalty of the Army (with Massu being commander of French forces in Germany at the time).
@epa9013 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this battle. I have been really curious of the French forces during the liberation period in 1944-45, since I heard that eventually they had over half a million in their ranks. I also heard that part of the frontline was solely their responsibility.
@rollolol60533 жыл бұрын
Well... In reality the French army went from around 500k men by the time of D-Day to 1,3 million men by the 8th may 1945.
@epa9013 жыл бұрын
@@rollolol6053 Really? Impressive buildup.
@rollolol60533 жыл бұрын
@@epa901 Yeah, I don't know the specifics, but I suspect that a lot of them were still in training by the end of the war
@rollolol60533 жыл бұрын
@VoltigeurFR But how? The Germans made around 2.2 million men prisoner in 1940, and released only half of them in the following years, all the while taking others for STO. Where did France find the manpower?
@qenyaithandrill78483 жыл бұрын
@@rollolol6053 The youth (those who were still under 16 years old when the war broke out) and the colonies.
@druidegg47113 жыл бұрын
i'm from vosges, the aera of this battle, i pass by dompaire almost every day, it's a city on a hill with free vision on the 10 miles around, it is really pure genius that they managed to take this town this way, especially then it was one of the most heavily defended position after Epinal and 'moselle valley'.
@KG-12 жыл бұрын
Outstanding treatment of the battle, very effective use of graphics. Would be nice to see some other battles from Zaloga's Patton vs. the Panzers covering the Lorraine actions this was a part of.
@tonyhawk943 жыл бұрын
I'd love a video about the Normandie-Niemen Squadron a Franco-Russian squadron that fought on the eastern front !
@toketokepass3 жыл бұрын
Im guessing this is similar to how modern French forces perform today. Great video man.
@mdkelley873 жыл бұрын
This is exquisitely done. Thank you!
@fredsanford59543 жыл бұрын
This is a great combination of maps and force composition that combine to tell a great story! More of these! Suggestion: Battle of Crete 1941
@gerhardris3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video on a WW2 battle of the many I've ever seen. Top!
@901Sherman3 жыл бұрын
Quality content right here, would love to see more tactical breakdowns (especially armored ones).
@mrsupremegascon3 жыл бұрын
Please do that more, it was really great and interesting. As a French I also thank you for sharing this part of our history. But as you explained in the end of the video, the result of this battle is unsurprising and not really honorable. Those poor unexperienced Germans were send directly against the most experienced French division of the war, plus they didn't had any kind of AA. It's look like more a German strategic mistake than a French tactical ingenuity. Still very interesting case to study. .
@Ocker32 жыл бұрын
Ah, but you should never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake. Those Panthers were terrible losses for the Germans.
@MushroomFromMars3 жыл бұрын
Excellent historical recount with great visuals to match. NEW SUB.
@joeosman2629 Жыл бұрын
Great job! I had only seen your OOB videos before.
@brdd5143 жыл бұрын
Please do more of these! I’d love to see one about Operation Anaconda, Thunder Run and the Chasseurs Ardennais in WWII
@robertmorey41043 жыл бұрын
Really cool. I'd like to see more of these for Normandy tank battles. The maps and movements are very cool. Even have the vehicle names, well done!
@Dikranovski3 жыл бұрын
I think it would be grand if you continue doing your conventional videos on TO&E coupled with such tactical scenarios hypothetical or historical AND also formations from ancient history all the way to today provided there's enough information of course.
@Sbob747473 жыл бұрын
This is a superb content, thank you! Probably the best-presented mini doc on a battle I've seen
@BattleOrder3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@Eccoriens802 жыл бұрын
L'idéal, ce serait quelques sous-titres francophones car tout le monde ne maîtrise pas forcément l'anglais, ce en dépit de la qualité absolument parfaite des schémas et de la présentation. Un grand merci à vous !
@Token_Civilian3 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid BO - More like this one. Great explanation of how this fight went down. Excellent graphics to illustrate the moves both the Germans and French made.
@IoachimSavianPopovici3 жыл бұрын
This... This was so good... I hope for many more like this, especially from more recent conflicts
@Frenchylikeshikes3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of this battle before, ever. Thanks for sharing. That's why I love you tube, we learn new stuff every day.
@huntclanhunt96973 жыл бұрын
I love the old Thunderbolts. Those things, like the new ones, wrecked absolute destruction on enemy ground troops.
@ntphong9993 жыл бұрын
with devastating effects on the moral
@skeletonwguitar43833 жыл бұрын
I love this new style of op detail briefings Please do more of it
@skeletonwguitar43833 жыл бұрын
@@TheCoolCucumber I have, I know OR
@ancaplanaoriginal53033 жыл бұрын
1:18 you know you lost the war when your air force is fighting on foot.
@MH-tr4kn3 жыл бұрын
Wow that is stupid high quality. I love this formatting and presentation
@darrendeluca89382 жыл бұрын
This was a great video. Most history of the western front of WW2 only makes a passing mention of the contributions of the French post D-Day. I actually learned something new, never heard that the French 2nd Armored was screening Patton. As a former Cav Scout, I appreciate a good screening of a main body.
@vizender3 жыл бұрын
This is great content. You were spot on on every name and their pronunciation, which is a relief when lots of people butcher French nouns and cities when talking about the French theater.
@aztro45813 жыл бұрын
this is why we need historians, thanks for this amazing job, in memory to those who gave their life
@andersschmich86002 жыл бұрын
Extraordinarily well done! Really shows that even on a tactical level the Germans had drastically declined by this point of the war.
@comentedonakeyboard3 жыл бұрын
The French are severely underestimated.
@simonm96933 жыл бұрын
Outstanding work in terms of precision, clarity and presentation... congratulations!
@nickgoodwood48123 жыл бұрын
Patton versus the Panzers The Battle of Arracourt, September 1944, by Steve Zaloga gives a detailed account of this forgotten battle, along with short biographies of the commanders involved. I bought it , not knowing about this excellent video. The book is very recommended. As someone from The Netherlands, and having visited Stonne, Verdun, and a lot of other places were the French fought so courageously I did not know about this battle. Zaloga has high praise for the 2nd DB and its commander, general Leclerc. Thanks for this meticulously made video. Vive La France!
@mikanielsschroeder3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 100k dude!
@BerSerK574003 жыл бұрын
Dompaire, battle of stonne, Dunkerque, battle of bir harkeim, travel pf Gustave line. French have also many importante in this war often forgotten by their allies
@soldatdemarine48012 жыл бұрын
Hello Battle order . Merci beaucoup ! Thank you very much ! A great work ! A very good video ! Idem for Your fabulous videos . Cordialy To France .
@MmmGallicus3 жыл бұрын
Kudos for not butchering French and German names. So rare!
@zOsO05352 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these insanely quality videos. I love to see it.
@romainpapelier94573 жыл бұрын
Lol I grew up in the Vosges and I know every town mentionned in the video, it's a strange feeling and hard to imagine such battles took place in my home region. No wonder why metal detecting is so popular here.
@eulbart3 жыл бұрын
Same here :P Beware of unexploded ammo, though. My dad found a hand grenade once :s
@brianfoley43283 жыл бұрын
Great video.....great description and even better tactical explanation....just great !
@M3chUpN8y3 жыл бұрын
I love your latest video detailing the Battle of Dompaire! My salute to the French 2nd Armored Division! And how the heck the German infantry could get stopped by two machine-gun jeeps.....
@AJAtcho3 жыл бұрын
the fact they're brand new and probably haven't got any training
@gotanon89583 жыл бұрын
Its actually called battlefield perception where the troops in contact believe that they are fighting a much bigger force than what it actually is.
@chaosXP3RT3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever been shot at by a .50 cal?
@samdumaquis20333 жыл бұрын
@@chaosXP3RT good point but the germans had their own machine guns too, and they were bloody famous: MG42
@alqaeda70403 жыл бұрын
Maybe because the jeeps were concealed and the germans didn't see who were shooting them like the video stated
@mjkypta3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. This battle is very exciting and highly documented, yet last time I checked it doesn't even have its own wikipedia page. Merci Bien!
@bobfall3 жыл бұрын
The initial losing of the German commander was pretty key. The replacement was an inexperienced officer.
@F1ghteR413 жыл бұрын
I've only read about this battle a tiny bit, thanks for explaining it in such a clear and detailed manner!
@adisura99043 жыл бұрын
Great video. One battle you should definitely checkout is the battle of Asal Uttar, one of the biggest tank battles after ww2
@luket10853 жыл бұрын
Abdul Hamid. Tank killer
@trstock77602 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this one together, love hearing about the "junior" partners in ww2
@nonautemrexchristus56373 жыл бұрын
So happy I found this channel before 100k subs, love your stuff
@fyreantz25553 жыл бұрын
How long does it take to research and produce an episode like this? Outstanding presentation...
@BattleOrder3 жыл бұрын
This one probably took around 3 weeks to make and research was being conducted throughout the production right up to the end. And thanks!
@ommsterlitz18053 жыл бұрын
Instantly subbed great video !
@earthenjadis81993 жыл бұрын
You can't lose when you go into battle with a Chad Regiment.
@bionity4749 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work. Just, thank you !
@iuulia92453 жыл бұрын
the chad 2nd infantry battalion
@maximilianodelrio3 жыл бұрын
TCHAD
@donteh583 жыл бұрын
Pure epic. I now have a desire to go play old MOH because of the music in the background
@BattleOrder3 жыл бұрын
It do be a classic
@killadivaasu1580 Жыл бұрын
I feel jealous of the French military.. They are some of the best equipped military in the world
@kheasboroki39283 жыл бұрын
Man i love videos like this, amazing to know the feats achieved by allied cooperation.
@BlvaKadavrah2 жыл бұрын
wehraboos be malding hard
@antonnieuwkoopable3 жыл бұрын
This is really great! would love to see more video's about engagements in WW2