BATTLETECH: The Manticore

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Big Red-40TECH

Big Red-40TECH

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@asimplenobody7797
@asimplenobody7797 Жыл бұрын
Tried taking on a pair of these and some APCs with a Griffin and Wolverine in MegaMek, thinking the similar battle value would lead to an even fight. Oh was I wrong. Even when immobilized, these things throw out a lot of firepower, and before long both mechs were collapsed under weight of fire. Learned to never underestimate vehicles that day.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
Fear the vehicles muh dude! They're no joke.
@MimesAgainstHunmanity
@MimesAgainstHunmanity Жыл бұрын
Now I want to make an all Manticore merc group for a Megamek campaign, maybe with infantry support.
@mattikuokkanen
@mattikuokkanen Жыл бұрын
The best main battle tank before Clan Invasion. Sure, Patton has more armor, but Manticore has more range and firepower to immobilize and cripple Patton first.
@andreasell1830
@andreasell1830 Жыл бұрын
Ah the rommel
@jjsheets330
@jjsheets330 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget about the Von Luckner
@mattikuokkanen
@mattikuokkanen Жыл бұрын
@@andreasell1830 Short range. Useful in urban maps, much less so in open terrain where Rommel can get immobilized before it even gets into AC/20 range.
@mattikuokkanen
@mattikuokkanen Жыл бұрын
@@jjsheets330 Slow and short range. Bad combination, and very bad in Open Terrain type maps. Few times I have used Von Luckner, it got immobilized before doing any significant damage in return. Useful in urban maps alongside with Demolisher and SRM Carrier. Otherwise a bodyguard for LRM Carrier and the like.
@psychkosys
@psychkosys Жыл бұрын
​@@mattikuokkanen You should put it in defilade and pepper ranges targets with the LRMs until they try to close, meanwhile your "hammer vehicles" like Saladins are providing hard to hit targets up close. Most tanks are vastly for defense, their limited movement, draconian hit table and terrain restrictions dictate how they should be used and that's never "out in the open".
@christophk.3085
@christophk.3085 Жыл бұрын
The "Parti-Kill Heavy Cannon" is one of the worst puns of Battletech... its at the same level as the J.Edgar....
@krullachief669
@krullachief669 Жыл бұрын
The Manticore is what happens when you make a Heavy Mech into an MBT and man, I love it for it
@Chris_Sizemore
@Chris_Sizemore Жыл бұрын
The Manticore is one of the most standard tanks across the inner sphere. Rugged, solid design. I'm not a fan of tanks with energy weapons, but its really hard to argue the Manticore isn't worth the extra cost. A Manticore is a dangerous machine, and should be a priority target for any mech over other mechs.
@robrib2682
@robrib2682 Жыл бұрын
the first tank in MW5 that I ran into that was half the size of a locust and then mauled the AI hunchback... it taught me that sometimes stepping on tanks will damage you less then the tank itself
@kagetemplar
@kagetemplar Жыл бұрын
Big Red 40K: inspired by this famous beast! Technicorp Marketing team: "I don't know... how about we name it...Manticore?" "Meh, good enough."
@Bomfunker91
@Bomfunker91 Жыл бұрын
I have a serious soft spot for a lot of the combat vehicles of Battletech, and the tanks specifically. Battlemechs are awesome of course, but it's neat to see futuristic technology applied to more familiar platforms. The Manticore is definitely up there in terms of the tanks I like, and it's only fitting that it'd be one of the first you covered :D (and the Capellan fanboy in me would very much like a video on the Po, which is a fascinating vehicle both in-universe and outside of it)
@JiyuKishiParn
@JiyuKishiParn Жыл бұрын
Mechwarrior 2: Mercenaries, a campaign mission had my employers let me borrow a Stalker for one run, but a Manticore tank was one of the first things encountered in that, and drilled in my head that these things are a real hazard to face.
@AGS363
@AGS363 Жыл бұрын
For the perspective: A modern main battle tank, like the Leopard 2 or the Abrams, weighs about 62 metric tons.
@rafale1981
@rafale1981 Жыл бұрын
I would rate its main gun as a heavy rifle at most, though
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 Жыл бұрын
I think latest Abrams have it at 70. Say, as someone whose exposure to Battletech is in the video games, how come it still has a crew of 4? I mean its weapons are autoloaded. Is the extra guy a weapons operator like in the planned KF51 Panther or Abrams X?
@AGS363
@AGS363 Жыл бұрын
@@shaider1982 The heaviest possible variant (M1A2 SEP v3) can reach 73.6 short tons, which is "just" 66.8 metric tons. As far I know (assume) the 4 guy is responsible for the rockets.
@devilin100
@devilin100 Жыл бұрын
​@shaider1982 assume its gunner and commander in turret, could have two drivers in hull with one focused on electronics similar to gen 4 tanks
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 Жыл бұрын
​@@devilin100 hmm, I guess.
@goodbodha
@goodbodha 11 ай бұрын
Tanks in battletech are incredible as long as you do a couple of things. 1. Have a plan for how to use them 2. Stick to the plan 3. Dont let tanks get isolated from supporting forces. 4. Based on #3 its usually smart to take multiple tanks and use them in a formation. 5. If the tank has a turret it is a mobile strong point that simply hasnt been immobilized yet. 6. Want to scare your opponent? Drive your tanks as a group. Nothing scares people more than massed firepower moving as a group that appears to be organized. 6k bv game? Take 6 of these bad boys. Run them literally in a tight formation around the board. Whenever one of them gets hit or slows down due to motive damage just treat that as your first gun emplacement and pivot off of it. Ive literally chased a mech around a hill and back into the tank he had stopped. One aspect of this kind of play is you can literally run one tank at flank and have several others slow down or even stop for better shots. Dont be afraid to alternate having a portion of the force go stationary and a portion go flank speed every turn. Your opponent has to choose between being receiving shots from a stationary target or they have to push their tmm up and find the other tanks are right on top of them. If your opponent screws up even slightly you can have a lot of firepower pointed at a single mech. in that 6k bv game your opponent is either outnumbered or he brought 6 centurions. Would you rather have 6 manticores or 6 centurions? Provided you keep the manticores together I bet the manticores will win that fight. All that firepower focused on 1 target will likely devastate a centurion. You might lose a manticore, but its quite likely the manticore survives but with major motive damage. That isnt a small difference.
@LockandLoad79
@LockandLoad79 Жыл бұрын
Manticore. Every time I see these things in my radar ping they immediately become primary targets.
@coulbauth
@coulbauth Жыл бұрын
One of the first tanks I bought for Battletech back in the Ralpartha days.
@stevenhernandeznon-profitf968
@stevenhernandeznon-profitf968 Жыл бұрын
The sculpt still holds up
@Ti-nf4fq
@Ti-nf4fq Жыл бұрын
Me too.
@ruthiekest3218
@ruthiekest3218 Жыл бұрын
I am not crazy about ralralpartha.those super glue sucks.i rather new plastic.i am happy they're making it.
@TheStrayHALOMAN
@TheStrayHALOMAN Жыл бұрын
This tank is in Living Legends 2 since the game uses totally different weapon and weight balancing I can see alot of crazy variants of this made by the devs. There is already a Locust with 6 HMG and an ATM-3 HE launcher, A commando with a LPL and 6 MG that have a range of 1600m though they do very little damage at that distance.
@Kyoptic
@Kyoptic Жыл бұрын
Is LL2 out yet? I need to find a link!
@indignantlamentation6307
@indignantlamentation6307 Жыл бұрын
​@@Kyoptic There hasn't been any updates that I've seen since april of last year. Critical Rocket on youtube has some videos on it, but I kinda suspect it is an abandoned project at this point.
@Kyoptic
@Kyoptic Жыл бұрын
@@indignantlamentation6307 Ah that's a shame, I was hyped for it but had heard they moved away from the MW5 engine to something else totally independent. Would be a massive shame if they're not going forwards with that. Ah well...
@brianalbrecht3914
@brianalbrecht3914 Жыл бұрын
The original Manticore is a beast on the tabletop. I had to play against a lance of them with battlemech support. Needless to say, I had to withdraw and all the Manticores were still alive. I got lots of motive hits but they were in positions so they didn't have to worry about maneuvering. It really made me appreciate some of the vehicles in the game.
@EllenbergW
@EllenbergW Жыл бұрын
Ah, the Manticore, mainstay of my armor companies and bane of overconfident mechwarriors who disregard the "lowly tankers". P.s. not sold on the upgrades. Sure, the 3060 version might have some merit, but what does it cost, compared to the original one? Because, since meat is cheap, if I can get three standard Maties for the price of two upgraded ones, I'll take the three "old" ones every single time.
@brianhenry152
@brianhenry152 Жыл бұрын
A tough, well-armed and armored foe that can make even experienced mechwarriors break out in a sweat. Definitely a solid addition to any force list, for a fraction of the c-bill and BV cost. It's enough of a well rounded fighter to excel in most situations, so it's well worth bringing to a fight.
@Chass3urTV
@Chass3urTV Жыл бұрын
If only we could drive and use these beautiful beasts in MW5.
@TurudesRavenholt
@TurudesRavenholt Жыл бұрын
Merctech V3's around the corner.
@KageRyuu6
@KageRyuu6 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Manticore is damn near perfect right out the gate, personally tend to replace the ML with armor, and perhaps a ton of Infernos if I'm concerned about infantry.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish Жыл бұрын
Sinking four tons into a backup medlas is the only weakness tbis thing has. You can get a big SRM and a ton more ammo, or a bunch of armor for that.
@snowstalker36
@snowstalker36 Жыл бұрын
I replaced the medlas with an MG to deal with Infantry, the Manticore's only real weak point. The weight savings from the heatsinks allows adding an Inferno ton to the SRMs, a Thunder ton to the LRMs, and a bit more armor.
@malusignatius
@malusignatius Жыл бұрын
Possibly the premiere Main Battle Tank of the Succession Wars, a threat to pretty much every foe it can face. It doesn't need ambushes or dirty tricks to be a threat, it just rumbles up the middle of the map and makes enemies disappear.
@FluffyyofChaos
@FluffyyofChaos Жыл бұрын
Honestly, when you made the "Vehicles" video. i was really disappointed it wasnt an hour long covering a few of the most popular vehicles like Manticores / Shreks, i was really hoping you would make full videos covering the history of a few of these. Half the reason i play HBS BTA3062 is for the tanks, they really cannot be underestimated. Alacorns savage anything with its Triple Guass rifles at range, Manticores anchor the middle line, with Devastators being the ultimate vehicular stopgap. I appreciate this video very much.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
I mentioned in the vehicle videos all the planned videos to come though! lol I'm not covering all of them. It'd take too long and there are other things I've gotta cover. But there is another 5 vehicle specific videos coming. Later on, there may be more. The Demolisher is up next. :)
@FluffyyofChaos
@FluffyyofChaos Жыл бұрын
@@BigRed40TECH LMAO, i must have missed that then, my apologies. i generally have your videos going on while im painting / playing games. bless your fucking soul you great man, i will be eagerly awaiting them :). as always thanks for all your great content!
@jamesoakes192
@jamesoakes192 Жыл бұрын
Great video, loving videos showing the setting outside the mechs
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
This is for the upcoming Kickstarter. I'm not associated, but I'm hyped for it, so I'm promoting it. :)
@JumpingFlapjack
@JumpingFlapjack Жыл бұрын
With all the hype about Battlemechs inside and outside the lore, one should not forget that a battalion or even a division of battle tanks can teach even the heaviest Battlemechs the horror, and are definitely not an easy opponent. ^^
@robertroy7818
@robertroy7818 Жыл бұрын
The excerpt out of the Techmanual on how mech pilots who underestimate tanks are dead pilots is so good and this tank is a big motivator of that argument. Great write up, can't wait to see what you've got to say on the Schrek i.e. the budget Awesome.
@PRC533
@PRC533 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of one of the first battles on Tukayyid where the clan force was lured into a swamp and then swarmed with Savannah masters who tore them apart for the mechs to clean up.
@dylanholven6375
@dylanholven6375 Жыл бұрын
this thing is the only armored vehicle I actually consider a threat in mechwarrior.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish Жыл бұрын
Was about to say a missile carrier, but remembered you said "armored"
@amw5288
@amw5288 Жыл бұрын
Not the Demolisher?
@observationsfromthebunker9639
@observationsfromthebunker9639 Жыл бұрын
@@amw5288 The Demolisher is a rare tank that can brawl effectively. Stay at long range for its ACs and keep hammering at it. Eventually you'll get an ammo crit or mobility kill on the treads. Do NOT try jousting against it down a city street!
@MultiKbarry
@MultiKbarry Жыл бұрын
@@observationsfromthebunker9639 Why would a Demo ever fight in the open?
@observationsfromthebunker9639
@observationsfromthebunker9639 Жыл бұрын
@@MultiKbarry The Demolisher is still dangerous in the open, because no one in their right mind wants to exchange punches with it at close range! In coordination with units armed with long-range weapons, a Demolisher can push enemy units backwards, even to the map's edge.
@HazopGaze
@HazopGaze Жыл бұрын
This little monster is one of those non-Battlemech units that I weigh with particularly high priority when commanding lances in MW5, even with other players standing in for AI. Partisans, Pattons, and Demolishers as well. I've seen what neglecting a single Scorpion can do, weakening armor from long range and even sniping lancemates after rough engagements. They're easy enough to squish, provided my Indirect Fire Support 'mech is available, if not my scout / rapid response 'mech. A Manticore, however? That thing will have the full weight of my lance dropped on it, if possible. LRM barrages, Autocannon shelling, glassing by lasers... EVERYTHING. Whatever removes it from the field as quickly as my forces can handle, even if it means I have to crush it under the foot of my Atlas. From my perspective, though it may not be as tough as Battlemechs of the same weight, it still fields enough firepower and durability to warrant immediate elimination should they appear as part of a hostile force. In short, I respect it, unlike some commanders who'll leave it be just because a bigger, more obvious machine is stomping around.
@purpletigerracing7087
@purpletigerracing7087 8 ай бұрын
I go after anything that isn't a mech in MW5. Turrets, tanks, missle carriors, Warriors, etc. The bigger the tank, the higher up on the priority list. The dumbass lancemates us only go after them.if it's a first contact isolated incident. But it sure sucks ass when your doing a raid or something and all hell breaks lose. You're getting attacked on all sides by mechs, turrets and tanks. But then you realize it's an ungodly ridiculous number of tanks every where. Good times
@AXE2501
@AXE2501 Жыл бұрын
While tanks are no longer the most feared things in BattleTech, they still can prove a troublesome rookie or foolhardy mech pilots.
@rindel9699
@rindel9699 Жыл бұрын
Finest tank in the Inner Sphere!
@MoreEvilThanYahweh
@MoreEvilThanYahweh Жыл бұрын
Doesn't have three gauss rifles and most importantly, gauss ammo to dump. 8/10 is the best I can do.
@alexmccutcheon10
@alexmccutcheon10 Жыл бұрын
False. The patton/rommel is king
@alexmccutcheon10
@alexmccutcheon10 Жыл бұрын
I mostly just like the design
@decepticonpecock
@decepticonpecock Жыл бұрын
​@@alexmccutcheon10 that's a funny way of spelling sherik PPC carrier
@phantam23
@phantam23 Жыл бұрын
Say that again to the Gurteltier.
@archangel2709
@archangel2709 Жыл бұрын
I love the tanks in the battle tech verse. They don't get nearly enough attention. Keep these videos coming sir!
@jacobrancourt2508
@jacobrancourt2508 Жыл бұрын
"Just spam Manticores" -Tsun Tzu, The Art Of War
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
Such wisdom! XD
@franksmedley7372
@franksmedley7372 Жыл бұрын
Hello Red. The Manticore tank has always been a 'staple' of combined arms in Battletech, going at least as far back as the original boxed set from 1984. I literally, cannot count the number of times I've seen someone using Manticores in their formations. I did as well. Something this useful is hard to resist using when it is so affordable and tactically flexible. Even those Players that would cram a Shrek, or LRM Carrier into their combat force, often added one or two Manticores as well. And yes, even here, I got called out for 'cheating' using tanks. Mind you, this was the early days of Battle Values, so my memories are not valid with today's BV system. But, I remember a Player that spurned tanks of any sort, in favor of his beloved Mechs. Myself? I fielded only a single Lance against him... A Lance comprised of 2 Assaults and 2 Heavies. The rest of my force was tanks of one sort or another. Given the BV allotted, I was able to field (if memory serves me, now almost 40 years ago) something like 10 Tanks. 6 of them being Manticores. I also was able to field over a dozen Savannah Masters as well. I was able to 'hide' my forces in heavy woods to either side of the main axis of attack. The only 'targets' the foe saw, were the Heavies and the Assaults, maneuvering around in Light Woods ahead of them. When the Enemy closed and began firing upon my Lance, I withdrew them into Heavy Woods for more cover bonuses, and waited for the foe to close the distance some more. When the Enemy Player advanced, my entire force 'pounced' upon his formation. The Tanks breaking cover to the edges of the forests and firing at medium to short ranges into the flanking Mechs of his formation. The Lance returning fire from the Heavy Woods and only being affected by the Light Woods in front of them. This resulted in the Enemy being unable to fire upon the Lance, due to 2 Light Woods and the Heavy Woods the Lance was standing in (total of a +4 penalty to-hit). And finally, what caused the outraged screech from my opponent... The 14 or 15 Savannah Master hover tanks roaring around the flanks to perform back strikes against any and all targets they could fire upon reliably at top speed. To say the Enemy's force 'melted' under the 360 degree firepower of my forces would only be a slight dramatization. Yes, I lost all four Mechs of the Lance, due to the Enemy closing until they could see them clearly, and pouring on the firepower of multiple Mechs into each one, But in the end, my Tanks and the lowly Savannah Masters, ruled the battlefield. Only one Mech made it out of the 'pocket' to flee off-board. And that was a heavily damaged Phoenix Hawk. Most of the opponent's force were killed by Manticores, Shreks, and the Savannah Masters. Even though he screamed 'Cheater!' at me, he did learn in the end. Forever thereafter, he was very cautious about being flanked from the woods. Not that it helped that much... in later battles, I paid for 'off the board' Artillery to pound him with... Then Air Strikes by Aerospace Fighters... And when he DEMANDED a City Battle... Well, let's just say I used the old 'Soviet Method' upon him, and leave it at that. Oh, and I should mention, I also hit him with the Locust Swarm once or twice as well. Yeah, I AM that Evil.
@Kanakadea
@Kanakadea Жыл бұрын
I love this tank. Whenever I have to fight against one, I know my repair bill is going to be expensive.
@blue95kun
@blue95kun Жыл бұрын
I love the Manticore. I am really looking forward to giving it a spin when the models are out.
@Dokdiamant
@Dokdiamant Жыл бұрын
Also, If I could give it a Quirk, I would give it the "Easy Repair" Quirk, at least for it's first Version. Not because it really IS Easy to Repair, but because of the Case that it was build only with Standard Technology, so Replacement Parts are easy to find and to get for it. Also... I think I would like to have the Ability, in the next MW Game, to drive Tanks too, and to place them in a Secondary Support Lance with a specific role, like Mech Hunter, Scout or Second / Third Line Artillerie. I think that would give the next game some interesting tactical options... and damn, I like to drive that Tank! :D
@joshuamidgette4846
@joshuamidgette4846 Жыл бұрын
The Manticore is a fine tank but I prefer the Von Lukner Heavy Tank. It carries an AC20.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
Good Luckner getting a plastic mini for that one anytime soon :P
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish Жыл бұрын
​@@BigRed40TECH Life finds a way, or a proxy
@psychkosys
@psychkosys Жыл бұрын
​@@BigRed40TECH oh Red, we Von Luckner lovers (Von Lucknites?) already have at least 4 in pew-pew-pewter. I got to run one for the first time against your buddies, Waco's Rangers. After removing the leg of a Wolverine then head clipping an Orion in my first test drive, it was love at first fight. When a tank regularly claims mech salvage, that's a successful design.
@robin6469
@robin6469 5 ай бұрын
Just kitbashed some Manticores out of some 1/285th scale M60 tanks, can't wait to use them on the tabletop!
@ryankruchowski1951
@ryankruchowski1951 Жыл бұрын
Tanks, roll out. They can be used as swarm tactics to surround mechs.
@syluxv2398
@syluxv2398 Жыл бұрын
Man....formations of these haunt my nightmares in MW5
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish Жыл бұрын
Sinking four tons into a backup medlas is the only weakness this thing has. You can get a big SRM and a ton more ammo or a bunch of armor for that. If something is so frequently in under the PPC's minimum range that you run out of SRMs you fucked up somewhere along the way.
@MultiKbarry
@MultiKbarry Жыл бұрын
Replacing the ML with a SRM 6 and 1 ton of ammo gives it more flexibility and firepower.
@GlassMenagerieTF
@GlassMenagerieTF Жыл бұрын
This man needs more subs. He deserves every one!
@dashiellgillingham4579
@dashiellgillingham4579 Жыл бұрын
Heavy CVs are consistently my favorites.
@williamjanak2013
@williamjanak2013 10 ай бұрын
I would love more vehicle videos. And that vehicles have their own play list. Great video.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH 10 ай бұрын
After I do a couple vehicles in the future, I'll make a playlist for them.
@tenchraven
@tenchraven Жыл бұрын
The original is still the best. While the LB-X and HPPC variants have their virtues, they are at the cost of flexibility. Excellent tank for horrible times. As for the LPL version... Who ever thought that was a viable option should be put in the public stocks for a few days. If you want a tank with no range, Ontos or go home. You're just begging to get stepped on.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
It's more that it doesn't commit to close range. and Frankly, even the Ontos lacks in speed tbh. The real problem is, tanks that move slow and wanna fight up close, are either Demolishers, or the Demolished. Even mediums that overtake tanks can make fools of them.
@MultiKbarry
@MultiKbarry Жыл бұрын
Melee is ironically less dangerous to tanks than mechs and tanks can stack with other units. The HPPC model is questionable a Snub would have been a much better weapon to use and would free up a lot of tonnage. Also the Ontos is just a much worse SRM Carrier or a worse Demolisher.
@mikewarden5777
@mikewarden5777 Жыл бұрын
I love to use this tank in my campaign games. That PPC is no joke. Use a few of these and/or some of its 3060 babies, the Myrmidon, and watch them rip through most things that they face for a fraction of the cost of battlemechs.
@crispwhitesheets2175
@crispwhitesheets2175 Жыл бұрын
I honestly wish in MW5 that we could make Merc Tanks and send em out with the lances , By God i do. Imagine 15 manticores and 40 Jedgers advancing with the lance.
@observationsfromthebunker9639
@observationsfromthebunker9639 Жыл бұрын
It's an old favorite from back in the day. The tank first made its debut in 1st edition Mechwarrior RPG. The Medium Laser was rear mounted originally, giving the tank its name. (Almost like the designers knew that a light mech would try a runaround attack while the PPC was engaging another target.) It was tall for its size, which would be a decisive feature if battlemechs weren't involved. Current version is shorter, basically Abrams/Challenger + LRM height. I had a lance of Manticores in my old merc unit's Assault Company, versatile in attack and defense. (A 3074 model with three 3060 types would make a mighty lance though!) I do agree, tanks shouldn't brawl unless they are fast movers. Tanks that let mechs get too close get kicked, DFA'd, shot up with multiple MLs, or hacked with melee weapons.
@TheMrGamma195
@TheMrGamma195 Жыл бұрын
ill never forget the first time i came across a manticore in MW5 i kept shooting it and it wouldnt die it managed to shoot me 3 full times with everything it had before i stepped on it out of fear lol
@acetraker1988
@acetraker1988 Жыл бұрын
My Stock Refit (is stupid good). -3 Heat Sinks. -1 Medium Laser. +4 Tons Armour. Alt Config. +Above -SRM-6. -LRM-10. +SRM-4 x4. +Replace Ammo (2 Tons SRM-4).
@sardaukerlegion
@sardaukerlegion Жыл бұрын
Tanks can use missiles and cannons without heating? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. Ridiculous that there was no Manticore with ER PPC / ER Medium Laser.
@dkarshner
@dkarshner Жыл бұрын
The Manticore is good, but I'm a huge fan of the Von Luckner as a MBT.
@AlphaAurora
@AlphaAurora Жыл бұрын
Alright, lets go tanks!!!!
@polaris88
@polaris88 Жыл бұрын
Finally getting around to watching more of your videos red, just had a busy 2023 so far. But anyway great work as always!
@mattikuokkanen
@mattikuokkanen Жыл бұрын
I hope you don't overlook hovercraft. I hope to see one named Hovertank in early Record Sheets and its derivatives like LTV4. MegaMek has a variant of the original Hovertank with fusion engine and speed 9/14
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
I'm going to be covering the Pegasus for this series.
@PRC533
@PRC533 Жыл бұрын
The Kanga is the coolest hovertank in Battletech, hands down.
@brothersgt.grauwolff6716
@brothersgt.grauwolff6716 Жыл бұрын
another exelent video as always Big Red now I want the vehicle pack even more 😣
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
I need those vehicles O.O
@jamesbeard5513
@jamesbeard5513 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the Manitcore is going to be a vehicle in the backer, as 1) You yourself pointed out how common it is in lore and how effective it is and 2) It is in ilClan Vol 31, and from what I can tell, all the mechs, with early Clan invasion counterparts, in the earlier selection that did not get in the Clan Invasion Kickstarter are appearing in the new Kickstarter. I would say outlook is likely, though not certain.
@forrestpugh7575
@forrestpugh7575 Жыл бұрын
The 3074 varient feels like it would be better rounded out with a hull mounted medium laser of some sort. That would give it lineage with the original models, and that secondary weapon system is ususlaly a good thing to have. The MML concept is great, so dispensing with two seperate launchers makes plenty sense, but an anti-infantry/light armor system would help it out.
@MultiKbarry
@MultiKbarry Жыл бұрын
Where would you get the four tons needed to add a ML to that model?
@Demolitiondude
@Demolitiondude Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the only controversy is no free sabaton album with purchase.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
How is it controversial? I'd buy 10 knowing I'm not getting one :P
@nilswassem7209
@nilswassem7209 Жыл бұрын
The manticore was one of my favourite tanks since i began collecting battletech minis, together with the von luckner tank and the shreck ppc carrier. They make a pretty good team
@StoicYT
@StoicYT Жыл бұрын
One of the patron saints of the infantryman from the sldf to 3050 and beyond. It, alongside its kin, whether distant cousins or sisters forged in the same factory, the srm carrier, the demolisher, the Patton, the partisan, and many more... You see one of these multitude of AFVs, respect them. Their design has been terrifying mech jocks and mech techs for good reason for centuries.
@foofoo3344
@foofoo3344 Жыл бұрын
I hate Manticore & Partisan. They are annoying and can be deadly.
@gregkun1
@gregkun1 Жыл бұрын
I made a varient of this tank with some clan tech. Mainly the 9.5 tons of Clan Ferro Fibrous= LS & RS: 30 / RR:20 / FR:50 / TU:52 spread and ER PPC. I follow it up with 2 MML9's with a Ton of LRM and Ton of SRM Ammo. Movement is a IS XL engine with a Base: 5 and Flank: 8 all for the cost of 9,131,200 C-bills. I set a rule for myself that all ground unit must cost less than 10 million. I was thinking of dropping the engine or some armor for more equipment but I thought simplisticity was the best way to go. Though was thinking adding a tag and Targeting Comp. To make it even more deadly.
@doorcf
@doorcf Жыл бұрын
SO, basic tank for basic needs. Nice ALso, would it make tanks op if they also had turret side and rear sections?
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
Probably lol
@garycannon4644
@garycannon4644 Жыл бұрын
God this tank is such a pain in the ass to kill in mechwarrior 5 lol
@blakeforbes768
@blakeforbes768 Жыл бұрын
I wish I could use this in MW5
@Marinealver
@Marinealver Жыл бұрын
Combination MBT and MRLS system.
@JawsTheHungryShark
@JawsTheHungryShark Жыл бұрын
Anybody remember mech assault 2 lone wolf, when you could hop in and out of mechs AND Tanks? I loved that game. Wish we got a remake or a remastered version today.
@CRAZYUNCLE117
@CRAZYUNCLE117 Жыл бұрын
It looks like a bradley fighting vehicle, with a larger turret.
@Wolperdinger1
@Wolperdinger1 Жыл бұрын
Finally vehicles! Thx Red!
@mrbigglezworth42
@mrbigglezworth42 Жыл бұрын
A lot of the vehicles of Battletech are pretty good, but I get the feeling only Iron Wind Metals makes minis for them at all. Which is a bit of a problem when you live in Okinawa and they don't want to ship here.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
Psst. The new Kickstarter has vehicles :D Its coming March 23rd :D
@charlesballiet7074
@charlesballiet7074 Жыл бұрын
one of the most iconic tanks in CBT
@Kaiju-Driver
@Kaiju-Driver Жыл бұрын
I didn't think it was so heavy!
@andreasell1830
@andreasell1830 Жыл бұрын
I hope for some videos about clan tanks and Vtol (maybe infantry) i know clan are more focusing about mech and elementals but me as huge fan of clan hell's horses i hope for this.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
Maybe one day, but its not planned at this time.
@davidkinnison9157
@davidkinnison9157 Жыл бұрын
Awe the wisdom of Dead Eye lol
@ASNS117Zero
@ASNS117Zero 6 ай бұрын
Personally, I'd refit one of these things by taking the SRM6 out, use the weight saved to upgrade the LRM10 to an LRM15, convert the SRM ammo over to LRM ammo, and add an extra ton of it. Convert the MLaser to a pair of SLasers for dealing with infantry. Generalizing for a vehicle like this doesn't help it, IMO. It's also a bad idea to want to get in close, because it's too easy for a mech to kill a tank if they're in close quarters, so the SRM needs to go. Further, having only one missile ammo type to worry about eases logistics, making supplying the vehicle easier. Trade the MLaser for a pair of Slasers so that you have an option for anti-infantry, especially since you don't want to be within the 270 meter range for actually effectively using said Mlaser anyway since, again, that puts you dangerously close to being in stomping distance. Definitely nice since for the cost of one archer, you'd get two of these with some c-bills leftover that could go toward support. Yeah, you're losing 10 missile pods, but the two PPCs more than make up for it.
@weirdguy564
@weirdguy564 Жыл бұрын
They're good, but the main thing I remember about them is their original artwork. It was depicted as a 3-tracked tank with a rotating hull, with two tracks up front, and one track in the centerline rear. Rule of Cool and all that. It looked futuristic. In reality having three tracks would make it unstable (ever wonder why 3-wheeler ATV's are extinct, but 4-wheeler ATV's are still sold?). It also means that you are 33.3% more likely to hit a land mine, and a rougher ride as there is now a 3rd point of contact to drive over something and rock the hull. A rotating hull is OK-ish. They've been tried in real life too, but deemed not worth the effort. If you don't know, this is when the vehicle is more turret than hull. The crew, the engine, the gun, and almost all of the machinery and weapons are in a big turret sitting on essentially just a small box that connects it to the tracks. It was mostly done to have an autoloader for the gun. Now, in BattleTech, the Manticore works just fine as none of those elements matters in the game rules.
@michaelmorford3932
@michaelmorford3932 Жыл бұрын
Weapons for every range, including indirect fire. The only thing it is missing is a C3 Slave. Indirect fire is the best type of weapon system for vehicles as it gives them the ability to fully leverage their size behind available cover. Defense in depth with pre-made tank trenches!
@stephenknizek2651
@stephenknizek2651 Жыл бұрын
Gotta admit, I preferred (and prefer) the Bulldog. Can’t even explain why, I just liked it’s look in TR 3026.
@level98bearhuntingarmor
@level98bearhuntingarmor Жыл бұрын
It be cool if it had the medium laser be coaxial, but it has good firepower, also why exactly do mechs generate heat from non energy weapons while tanks don't
@andreykuzmin4355
@andreykuzmin4355 Жыл бұрын
Manticore is 40k Baneblade's big meth addict brother with anger isdues, who was just released from a prison.
@koonfasa
@koonfasa Жыл бұрын
I recently bought MBT. It looks interesting, but nothing like Classic Battletech.
@theapostatejack8648
@theapostatejack8648 Жыл бұрын
Ooooh so this is why the Hell's Horses tread-heads wanted in on the invasion! Nostalgia!
@Track_Tension
@Track_Tension Жыл бұрын
One does not realize how powerful a mech is, until they have deployed tanks to fight them.
@MimesAgainstHunmanity
@MimesAgainstHunmanity Жыл бұрын
I love this tank. After over 10 years of playing I got my first game win in a Manticore.
@clydecraft5642
@clydecraft5642 Жыл бұрын
i remember this from mechassault, along with the railcannon tank
@oliverlacota3112
@oliverlacota3112 Жыл бұрын
Loving all the quotes from good ol' Sergeant "Dead-Eye" Unther you've been sprinkling in your vids lately ^^
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
I tend to drop them in Mercenaries videos. These tank vids are being made because of the upcoming Mercenaries Kickstarter, so I figured I'd add in the Unther quotes :D
@TheKianykin
@TheKianykin Жыл бұрын
seeing various tank varients the one with 5 ppcs and the one with a bunch of srms scare me the most
@rho1581
@rho1581 Жыл бұрын
Tank-U
@RandProductions45
@RandProductions45 Жыл бұрын
Completely unrelated but I figured you’d be a good person to come to, should you see this comment. I’m getting into the BattleTech tabletop with a couple friends and I’ve got the new beginner box, the “Total Warfare” book, the BattleMech manual, and 5 boxes of mechs (I’ve been a fan bit of BattleTech since I was a little kid and found Mech Assault, naturally I’m drawn to the Wolf’s Dragoons). Anyway I keep hearing talk of “Advanced” rules and “Quirks” certain mechs have, as well ass custom mechs in the style of the MechWarrior video games (which I also love). I’ve been into 40k for a while so I’m no stranger to tabletop war games, but even still it’s all a bit disorienting. What would you recommend doing as a beginner in this game specifically? (Not to gloat but I’m currently undefeated 3-0 against my friends in the simple version of the rules in the beginner box, go me.)
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
Hey Brock! I'm not sure I'll be able to do that at this point, the video slate is enormous.
@joker4-172
@joker4-172 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work sir! Wonderfully done!
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish Жыл бұрын
A shame the lostech version isnsuch a dog.
@JosephMitchell-zw3db
@JosephMitchell-zw3db 14 күн бұрын
Love it from mechwarrior book till now
@robertreid9256
@robertreid9256 Жыл бұрын
Are you going to cover Proliferation Pack and Snord’s Irregulars Assault Lance?
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
As in the mechs in them? Eventually. Am I going to make a news video on them? I wasn't overly thrilled with the packs, and felt it was best to not be unimpressed by them in a news video tbh.
@BIGESTblade
@BIGESTblade Жыл бұрын
A great demonstration why tanks are better than mechs. Myjomers are the only thing making mechs viable.
@jamesshantie1923
@jamesshantie1923 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the stats cover the gun depression and elevation. Or turret traverse and hull traverse.
@upandaljm
@upandaljm Жыл бұрын
Manticore, Striker and Pegasus OH MY
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish Жыл бұрын
Gameplay wise I thought vehicles don't actually track heat even when they end up in an environment that would render their 1-1 heatskink ratio invalid, they just immediately take mobility penalties right?
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
They don't track ballistic heat, or missile heat, but they must have the sinks to cover their energy weapons.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish Жыл бұрын
@@BigRed40TECH I know but I thought they don't activelly track it even then. Like if they're in vacuum or volcanic and then their sinks wouldn't be enough for their weapons you don't actually start tracking it like in a mech, you just take movement penalties but can still shoot.
@psychkosys
@psychkosys Жыл бұрын
Give me 4 manticores, 4 Saladin, 2 Demolishers and 2 Sturmfeurs and I will show you how to fend off any mech force of equal battle value.
@raxsavvage
@raxsavvage Жыл бұрын
do the clanners not have a manticore?
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
I don't think so.
@MultiKbarry
@MultiKbarry Жыл бұрын
The closest thing armaments and weight wise is Enyo.
@decepticonpecock
@decepticonpecock Жыл бұрын
Panzer Vor!
@semperatis
@semperatis Жыл бұрын
Homo,Homini,Hominus, is the better known version of this quote.(Man's Inhumanity to Man).
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