BATTLETECH: The Spider

[@ashaide]

"Comically though, it is noteworthy that the Spider does not have a pilot ejection system" Dekker: Wait, what?

[@ChocorocK]

The Spider 'mech is the ejection system.

[@andreykuzmin4355]

I have spec my Dekker to be a Vanguard. He is too busy stomping Mechs in a Banshee to be worried about lack of ejection systems)

[@ashaide]

@@andreykuzmin4355 Now there's a thought. I should try that :D

[@t-wolf8502]

I upgraded Dekker to a Phoenix Hawk. Combinded with Extended Commander's Edition he can jump almost as good as a spider but with a bit more punch and much better durability.

[@andreykuzmin4355]

@@t-wolf8502 Taurian: "Can you fly?!?" Dekker: "No... jump good!"

[@MM22966]

"Spider-Mech, Spider-Mech!" "Does whatever a Stinger can't!" "Circle-strafes, any mech!" "Zooms like a Locust up and down streets!" "LOOK OUT! Here comes the Spider-Mech!"

[@CharlesUrban]

Can I try? _Spider-Mech, Spider-Mech--_ _Turns opponents into a wreck!_ _Circle-strafes as it flies;_ _If it's slowed, then it dies!_ _Look out! Here comes the Spider-Mech!_

[@MM22966]

@@CharlesUrban *claps*

[@markmeier2609]

The Spider is the reasson why you want to have your 2 backwards Medium Lasers in your Battlemaster!

[@mattikuokkanen]

I'd rather have the weapons in arms for that purpose as those can be also fired forward.

[@markmeier2609]

@@mattikuokkanen You lose a lot of firepower if you turn around and fire your arm weapon. with Rear Lasers, you can fire them (and 2M-Laser will hurt a light Mech) and you can still fire your main weapons at a regular target

[@WolfHreda]

Replace them with Medium Pulse Lasers for that sweet to-hit bonus.

[@hermes7587]

The chances of hitting a Spider with rear mounted lasers are very low. The Spider will have at minimum a +4 movement modifier and it will not jump behind a stationary Battlemaster. Shooting weapons to the rear also causes an additional aiming penalty. The best defense against a Spider attacking from the rear is another Mech covering your back. A Spider will rarely jump into a tighly packed formation. It will always try to go after Mechs that have become isolated from the lance mates.

[@canislupus3655]

​@@hermes7587Thank you for sharing your tactical knowledge. I'm planning on picking up an IS Support Lance largely because of the Spider, so knowing how to use it and what to avoid is quite beneficial

[@Reverb154]

This is where Double heat sinks, a Light PPC, and an ER Medium Laser would do WONDERS for the Spider.

[@CRAZYUNCLE117]

The itsy-bitsy spider climbed up the waterspout. You have to bring 'the rain' to take the spider out. The spider was designed after the words of Mr. Myagi. "Best defense. No be there."

[@Hierax415]

A long-standing problem with Battletech is that the games/tabletop don't often put you in a position where the spider shines. If you don't have ANY mechs and the spider shows up, your gonna have a bad day. That's true of almost all the light mechs if all you have is infantry and a hovercraft or two. A light mech becomes just as scary as a heavy is to the spider.

[@jorixpalorn3738]

Ah the Spider. These mechs are kind of the poster child of the differences between turn based games like tabletop and the pc version of Battletech, and real time games like MWO and MW5. Tabletop, the maneuverability on these things is great, and its easy to get behind enemies and shoot them in the back. In real time, these things are soooo easy to shoot out of the sky.

[@mrbigglezworth42]

I think it's a mixed bag for both, the Spider excels at it's role of scouting...and little else. For the tabletop version, stacking pips to avoid being hit helps a ton for survivability but it has no teeth to really take advantage of it's speed. In the Mechwarrior games it's mobility is a mixed bag because it needs lots of terrain to obscure it's advance forward or be picked apart easily by practically any heavier mech. It's got the same issue the "Avenging Angel" Vindicator has where speed is a poor substitute for armor.

[@SHDW-nf2ki]

Frankly its cause most players use up all their jump jet fuel in a single big leap that's highly predictable and leaves them massively exposed.

[@TomiTapio]

If (turning 180 degrees is super slow) then (agile or jumping one has a chance). Realtime means "my 4 medium lasers melter the Spider's leg".

[@elchjol2777]

The Spider,the mech that catches deletion rounds from my heavy rifle to the CT or head randomly. Once missed a Javelin only to accidentally nail a spider in the head at rather long range and through a snowstorm. I was rather confused when I heard one of my pilots call out that I got a head shot so drinks were on him. Then a friend I was playing with said a big round came through the blizzard and domed the Spider he was chasing. It's one of my funniest light mech deletions with the big gun to date.

[@KrotosVeikar]

Epic. 😂

[@liljenborg2517]

One of the brilliant aspects of the design is that they stick those medium lasers right in the core. Even though the armor is light you can blow off both arms and even both torsos without impacting its damage output.

[@skyvipers]

No pilot ejection system installed in a fusion-based power-plant machine is the ultimate "Captain goes down with the ship"

[@BigRed40TECH]

A good captain ALWAYS goes down with the ship.

[@mr6johnclark]

Sounds like a mech the DCMS would love!

[@TheGreatDayne1983]

@SkyVipers Bold of you to assume that a Spider that’s been hit would be intact enough to eject from in the first place.

[@navbuoy]

@@TheGreatDayne1983 Then let's rip out the ejection systems for all light mechs...ejection seats are like the lottery if you don't play your chances are guaranteed at zero

[@Demolitiondude]

Spider-Mech, Spider-Mech, Does whatever a spider can Spins a web, any size, Catches soldiers just like flies Look Out! Here comes the Spider-Mech!

[@joshuamidgette4846]

Meh, a flea could take one in 1 alpha.

[@LORDOFDORKNESS42]

I always thought the Spider was interesting, because to me, it always seemed like it would have shone ten-fold if eventually faced 'down,' and given a civilian role. Search & rescue. SWAT style police action. Heck just plain racing these things would no doubt look exciting as frick, with that 130 km/h AND 200 M jump jets. Like imagine a dang Lunar circuit with a whole line-up of these things in those 80's racing checkering that was all the rage in Battletech art for a while, jumping and running in near perfect silence. Really makes you wonder what the Star League would have become, if not for that prick Ameris.

[@eugenequek6797]

if only the inner sphere were a nice peaceful area of space then maybe they wouldnt strap weapons on metal tin cans right ?

[@jingleding9002]

In mechwarrior 5 I got my hands on the hero spider mech and found out how amazing mobility is after having only used meduim and higher class mechs, sprinting around enemies at 130 and then jumping to the other side of a canyon to come back from another angle is exhilarating

[@eddapultstab2078]

​@@Stevie-J call it "mecha sport"

[@akiraguy]

@@Stevie-J i thought we already have Solaris 7 for that.

[@mrbigglezworth42]

Being a forward scout for fire-support is another great use for the Spider. Run in like a madman, feed targeting data to a Catapult or Archer or some such, then run out before the enemy even notices. It's why the SDR-7Kr and KC models might be the best variants for focusing on what the Spider is good at then trying to make it a skirmisher that it clearly isn't.

[@shukilevyandbrookesheildsl2638]

I feel like it's more like an oversized armored suit for infantry than it is an actual mech.

[@BigRed40TECH]

It's got value, and underestimating it can lead to a bad defeat, but it's really can't afford to make any mistakes.

[@treevenewson]

It does look that way

[@eddapultstab2078]

heh, "Mobile Suit Spider"

[@TheWarpmind]

Eh I would still take a zaku 2

[@TomiTapio]

Armored suit go 20 kph maybe, Spider go 117 kph

[@Ishkabo]

Accounting for the rapid pace of these video releases, the quality of the scripting, narration and choice of images are extremely high quality. Love it.

[@BigRed40TECH]

I do my best, thank you! :D

[@billtrent6520]

This was one of my main light mechs in MWO back in the day. "I remember getting so many when thought point on conquest mode or just running on the wall on the HPG manifold.

[@joshuamidgette4846]

MW5, Warhammer mission for the magistracy. Out of the 30 or so mechs we killed the spider was the last. It died when someone finally took out a leg. Pretty sure you missed that the reason the spider was a special forces mech was the special jumpjets that allowed for moving the jets themselves to change direction while in the air.

[@ambientlight3876]

This little monster is far more dangerous than it seems on paper. Especially considering its ability to jump and shoot targets in the weaker rear armor. It can also be great at distracting targets while your more powerful assets get into the fight.

[@furikuri6585]

"But hey: it's pretty amazing!" ... I See what you did there, SPIDERMAN!

[@GliderBane]

This is one of my favorite mechs. It's 8 jump jets make it so mobile. You can be behind your foe, hammering medium lasers into his back while the rest of your your lance is distracting them from the front. Your only real enemy is poor initiative.

[@BigRed40TECH]

Or a lucky leg kick.

[@fedupN]

Or any half competent Lance mate. Pew pew I lasered your back armor! It's hurt! What's that? A Cenutrio*splat* ...ow. Edit: it's still a neat design, and I like the spider, but man...blink and it dies. Kinda prefer stronger strikers or a better harasser, like a Hussar.

[@xerty5502]

@@fedupN jumping in front of a me h giving cover to the guy you jumped behind is pilot error not the fault of the design that said would rather have a mongoose any day of the week

[@fedupN]

@@xerty5502 I think you spectacularly misread my comment. I was mentioning how the spider, even when jumping behind an enemy, is likely to only annoy it, rather than do any real damage. Then it will die. Whether from a enemy "half competent lance mate" who just brushes the thing off, or the one who got back stabbed simply turning around and firing back.

[@mattikuokkanen]

Spider can also use physical attacks at the same time as it shoots the lasers. Rear attack with 2 medium lasers and 2 punches is no joke. Nastly little bugger.

[@Michael-ek2eb]

Then you make your next jump, just to meet twin a twin PPC to the rear CT.

[@BlueSmoke216]

I find it really interesting how the Spider has a variant with two machine guns. That seems a lot like my favorite Stinger - which itself has a two medium laser variant more like the Spider! Really makes you think about the slight difference in armor, placement of weapons in arms or torso. Also according to the Sarna, the Spider comes with its own entertainment system!

[@robertroy7818]

This mech raises an argument I've always had about light mechs: why would you ever run under 35 tons? At that weight it's an extra 16% armor or weapons and the 35 ton mechs that make good use of it tend to outclass the rest. The Jenner and Panther come to mind off hand, if the Spider was 5 tons heavier it could slap an extra two tons of armor, two more lasers AND a heatsink while keeping roughly the same mobility.

[@BigRed40TECH]

There is one cost: Production cost :P

[@robertroy7818]

@@BigRed40TECH Here in the Lyran Commonwealth we run Atlas scout lances we can swing that 5 tons lmao

[@BigRed40TECH]

@@robertroy7818 The Lyran Commonwealth uses Commandos and Griffins, 2 great mechs. :)

[@Eulemunin]

Variant we used to play with was endo and XL with all the tonnage going into armor. Became shockingly hard to kill.

[@rylian21]

The Spider really is a fantastic mech. I sometimes wish it had more weapons, but it's an amazing machine.

[@dashiellgillingham4579]

I’ve started to actually respect this thing since I found out exactly what seven machines with 2 medium lasers each can do to even a higher bv of assault mechs.

[@grimms1916]

The spider has very reccently earned a special place in my heart. I re-attempted the ecks-caliber challenge in battletech, for like the 7th time. A spider, jenner, urbanmech and commando vs a kintaro, jagermech, hunchback and awesome. I didnt win, but I cam very close. Urbanmech was dead, jenner was leading the kintaro and hunchback on a wild chase. Jagermech was down, but the awesom was cornering my spider and commando. I knew trying to bust its front armor was useless , and jumping the spider away would leave my more useful comnando to get mulched. But, the jenner had launched several alpha strikes into the back of that awesome earlier in the battle. I knew that back armor was gone and the internals weak. The spider had already lost a leg, and was running hot from needing to jump around to stay mobile. So that pilot made a choice. Jumped him into the back arc of that awesome, unloaded both of his lasers into the assault mech. Both go center torso. The awesome falls, but he gets a heat shutdown for it. Next round, seeing the disabled spider as easy pickings, the enemy kintaro stops chasing the jenner to run just close enough to get a full srm salvo off and instantly destroy him. Together, the commando and jenner were able to take out the hunchback, but were ultimately destroyed by the kintaro. Still, that was the closest Ive come to beating that challenge, and I know it was because of that spider sacrificibg itself to topple one of the most dangerous assault mechs in the game

[@TheStraycat74]

My version of the full clan tech rebuild makes the spider a bit more survivable. keeping the 8,12,8 movement, maxing out with 5 tons fero-fiberous armor, and a clanner XL-engine give the SDR-5A 7.75 tons of omni-mech podspace. Prime config has three clan MPL's, head and CT. a SPL in the RA, and a clan MG with half ton of ammor in the left arm, returning to it some small ability as anti-infantry capability. The B variant is a dedicated recon mech with TAG, AP, and ECM. for weapons it has three clam ERML's in the head and CT, but retains the MG and half ton of ammo in the left arm. The C variant says "Screw You, I have an ERPPC!" by dropping all weapons in favor of a Clan ERPPC in the CT plus an extra double heat sink because you are going to need it... and the mg, because 0.75 tons is annoying to fill. Variant D is all the lasers. just all of them. Five ERSL's in left and right toros EACH, two extra DHS, and the MG in the LA because Something has to work when you over heat this puppy... this thing screams 'up-close-and-personal', while it's opponents scream "Get-it-off-me! Get-it-off-me!"

[@heirofaniu]

That's terrifying and you are an evil genius.

[@TheStraycat74]

@@heirofaniu I'm doing 2750, 3025 (old and new version) and the 3050 innersphere mech. trying to keep to the original spirit of the designs while maxing armor and trying to get zero heat debt... but I don't always get that, just close to it. I have a dropbox where my designs are. I've gotten all of the light and mediums from all of those TRO's. I need to work on the heavies, but I've been REALLY buzy with work. I try to post my Full Clan Tech Rebuilds here when BR40k posts a video... but I don;t have all of them done yet. oh, you should watch his Whitworth video from today, and I posted my version in the comments as well XD

[@Engelbote117]

The spider was my first mech after getting back into the game. I am quite fond of it for it's excellent mobility and it's decent options for customization. Thanks Big Red for this one in particular. 👍

[@BigRed40TECH]

No problem! :D

[@joshblack2362]

Great upload! Keep up the great work!

[@BigRed40TECH]

Thanks!

[@justanotherrandomgamer1380]

I always had an affinity for the Spider. It's in my top 5 favorite mechs and is number 1 favorite light mech. It's a part of my command lance.

[@Raveneye2000]

With great speed comes great scouting responsibility. And nothing else.

[@SuaveNerd2000]

In a category where speed is king, the spider reigns, makes for a good spotter in the HBS game

[@roguerifter9724]

The Spider is my favorite Light Mech that doesn't require lostech. If memory serves when I started the HBS Battletech PC game a Spider was my protaginst's ride until I got a Blackjack

[@Mesterick]

The Spider is one of my favorite "joke" mechs in MechWarrior Online. Piranha gave it a capture speed bonus for CtF style game mods, so I just max out it's capture assist perks and either make it a zombie mech with 2 medium pulse lasers or a not so zombie with a snubnose PPC. Thanks to the splash damage Piranha gave to SNPPCs and that Spider model's 50% cool down reduction that's been my preferred variant for a bit now as it's just oodles of fun to run and jump around being an annoyance with max armor.

[@mikegould6590]

For any doubters, please note the 9M. Packs twin Medium VSP Lasers. Absolutely deadly

[@Red-S-267]

The SDR-A or RVN-H are my two favorite light mechs. Fast high punching mechs that get in and get out.

[@heirofaniu]

The Spider is a mech that I don't much like to use but one that I respect immensely and is always worth my attention on the table. The mobility and fists are fantastic although personally I like the 5K version the best, better for infantry and crit seeking and giving up a bit of jump distance isn't the end of the world. Besides, battle can get slightly boring without the risk of a massive ammo explosion that can core your mech on a through armor crit. In campaigns where I have a Spider or a Locust if the pilot survives multiple battles he is given the name of a famous racing driver, my last Spider pilot was Mark Martin, who bravely served in the AFFS through multiple battles before his SDR-5D was turned into a convertible, and he was turned into chunky salsa, by a head shot from a Centurion's AC-10.

[@eddapultstab2078]

R.I.P.

[@warrmalaski8570]

Just yesterday I looked through your videos to see if you had covered the spider. You must have read my mind.

[@stephanellenberg2871]

I don't know about amazing. The Spider had to go as soon as I had enough Parts to build a Jenner for my Merc Lance.

[@kagetemplar]

This is the best video on the web.

[@TheAzureGhost]

Rumors say, the Spider Project was started by a bunch of Anime Otaku who wanted to recreate a Gundams mobility with their current techlevel. Loved my little Spider back in MWO, fitted with a tag laser and a large ER laser i jumped around, tagging enemies for my LRS allies and dealing chipdamage/finishing off weakened targets with my Laser. Love that david vs goliath fighting style in Mechwarrior games since i first played MW3 Pirate Moon where you can play as a clan Elemental (and do skirmish matches vs Daishi and Atlas mechs)

[@johannesbowers7467]

The amazing thing about the spider is the durability.... with a phenomenal pilot it can have almost all of the limbs blown off and still pogo around and harass foes. One legged-No Armed-Jumping spiders terrify people.

[@connorriggs1518]

Man the spider is so annoying to catch but when you do she definitely explodes pretty under the foot of my banshee

[@rylanddungan8797]

Ah the spider, because sometimes its fun to go skeet shooting with a mech

[@BoisegangGaming]

The Spider, also known as "Dekker's Coffin".

[@stephenknizek2651]

I was about to say that this version of the Spider from the thumbnail looks a bit like the OstScout, but it sounds like I use my OstScouts in the recon and infiltration role as described in this Spider video.

[@snakeplissken1754]

Perfect mech for Solama units.

[@charlesmtaylor31]

I hope you'll cover its spin-off, the Venom, at some point in the future.

[@BigRed40TECH]

Yep, that will happen, but not for a while yet.

[@kevinmulkey9774]

When you want to take speed is life to a extreme this is your ride. But like ya said it's a no mistakes type mech. Then again half the fun of table top is going hold my beer, and using something like a Spider, and winning, and even if you don't win it's a glorious good time!

[@GnarledStaff]

I really enjoy playing the spider in MWO. Bought it onsale after using it successfully in the battletech videogame. Its fun to play but I don't usually do well in it. I've had a couple games go well though. Main strategy is patience and staying out of the fight. You need to find a target that is too distracted to care about you. Its easily countered by having a light mech on the enemy team with any sort of damage output. I think the spider needs stealth armor to be a functional recon mech. 10 dmg alpha is really not enough, even for backstabbing. stealth armor might make it viable

[@gearsofdawn]

Last night I had started a new career in MW5: mercenaries and picked davion, first mission was a defense contract. The enforcer was piloted by me, and the spider and two locust were AI. We get down to the last enemy mech, a firestarter, who starts flying. On the way up one of my locust -1m who was pretty much undamaged runs right at it and just blows up, then the spider ended up being where the firestarter was landing and blew up too. It was totally stupid and I had to restart the mission 3 times because the locust -1m or the spider would die to something landing on them. I ended up ordering the two trouble makers to "guard" a completely remote spot away from any enemies, and I dealt with the rest of opposition with just me and the locust 3v. The pilot of the locust-1m was so terrible that even after 7 missions he hadn't upgraded any of his skills and routinely lost a leg or an lrm pod. In the 8th mission I did, he blew up completely and died. I didn't restart the mission because I was tired of him. I sold the scrap and picked up another locust-3v. I usually start the career with getting a spare pilot, so I ended up bringing him in, but I had him pilot the enforcer and I took the new locust-3v. Anyways all that to say the spider is usually a trouble maker and the locust-1m is worthless when used by an AI.

[@kevobot9342]

I’ll stick to the javelin (the laser varient ) the spider just doesn’t have enough weapons for dealing with other light mechs imo

[@mathewkelly9968]

I dunno about that , the spiders speed and manoeuvrability are second to none .

[@kevobot9342]

@@mathewkelly9968 sigh I’m not saying the spider is a bad mech when it’s use for its intended role I’m just saying that I prefer a light mech with good speed and firepower and the spider is only good on the speed department

[@naomy1701]

the Spider was always one of my fav Mechs design wise, it just looks so awesome and futuristic ^^ and while it leaves alot to be desired in terms of armament, the speed and small profile make it a good choice for Recon missions and scouting ahead of a main foirce in general ^^

[@rmcdudmk212]

Love the Spider. Even thou it's not the toughest mech it's fast and agile. I almost always run at least one in urban defense laces.

[@DevilPogoStick]

Played the Argo mission in the Battletech PC game and meme-magnet Decker in his trusty Spider was straight up cherry tapping knocked down mechs like nothing. ...Not bad for a character that people see as the one most likely to die easily.

[@GnarledStaff]

I think Dekker dies a lot because he is the first pilot in a light mech in a game where you are given medium mechs until that point. He was out for 95 days on my first playthrough because I sent him to take out an enemy turrent on his own without realizing that the spider had such little armor.

[@NemFX]

The Spider is fast, and jumps. That's it. That's all it's got. I want to like it, but.. it has the drawbacks of the Charger, but people like it. Yeah, it's cheaper, but it's a light mech that's heavily expendable. If I could drop the weapons and replace them with one ppc? I'd be happy with that. You'd make it into a scout/sniper. But the default version is heavily undergunned.

[@JackManiacky]

The spider doesn't have an ejection seat? The spider is an ejection seat!

[@JumpingFlapjack]

"The itsy bitsy spider went up the waterspout, down came the rain and washed the spider out. Out came the sun and dried up the rain and the itsy bitsy spider went up the spout again." ;) If it's annoying when it attacks you from behind and you see NOTHING there, then you probably have a spider gnawing on your armor^^

[@erikbjelke4411]

Always loved the look of the Spider. Spindly, yet elegant, though the modern, boxier redesigns are less so in my opinion. Still, it's a 'Mech I'll often choose just because I like the look, even knowing that it's deficient in pretty much every other area.

[@kazekamiha]

I feel in a game where infantry, light vehicles and soft targets had a sizable part mechs like the Spider would be much better.

[@rudyvalle9022]

I always say give a mech several games before fully judging it. This is one of those mechs that looks bad on paper but has high value during the movement phase.

[@BigRed40TECH]

Oh I've played like a thousand games of Battletech, these guys are definitely useful. I'm not crapping all over it, I just have to be honest. One wrong move, and it's finished. That's its primary weakness. It's definitely got use, especially when it slips behind someone and double ML's them and then punches, that's great. But if it gets kicked even once and fails its piloting check, if the leg's still on it? Dead mech walking.

[@rmcdudmk212]

In Urban combat the spider has few peers in the weight class.

[@TheStraycat74]

@@rmcdudmk212 is it sad that I read that as "In Ubranmech Combat"?

[@rmcdudmk212]

@@TheStraycat74 not at all 😁

[@rudyvalle9022]

@@BigRed40TECH oh I agree with everything in the video. Its just funny to me when my friends would dismiss a mech because “only ten damage, bro”. I feel the high risk high reward units are the most fun.

[@depth386]

In Battletech HBS the spider is best staying out of line-of-sight and spamming sensor lock on an opponent

[@robrib2682]

I forget which faction is but are you seriously telling me that either the drachs or the kuritians (whichever one has actual commissars) seriously weren't the ones to recover a battle mech that lacks the ability for the pilot to escape?

[@akiraguy]

this mech is the reason i always loads up precision ammo into my marauder.

[@benlaskowski357]

Ah, the one-shot wonder. That's how many shots they can take.

[@EricLinstone]

It's a spider, man!

[@eddapultstab2078]

engine weight is the entropy of all mech designs. Want speed and/or mobility, sacrifice armor and weapons. in order to have it all you need to get your hands on those coveted XL engines.

[@pitbullseatkids2682]

Im really starting to appreciate light mechs more.

[@josemanuelmunizherrera920]

I recently played a game against my best bud. He has a Spider in his lance. Annoying mech, it is always flying away and evading me! Yet, in this last game, I had my sweet retribution. His lance was hunting down a Wolfhound on mine, in an area full of lakes and rivers. My Wolfhound was cornered atop a level 2 hill, overlooking a depth 2 lake. I had a Grand Dragon coming in on my tracks, and was done for, so my plan was to jump down from the hill and into the lake, to evade it. This is when the damned Spider shows up, and jumps all eight hexes, from all the way over near the front lines of the engagement, right into the depth 2 hex I was going to jump into. Foiling my plans and forcing me to just stand there, and face the Grand Dragon. ... The thing is, the pilot failed his PSR when going into the water, so the spider jump all that distance, only to knock itself down, and out, deep in the lake below. It was absolutely hilarious. Best moment in the entire game. Die, you annoying Spider, DIE!

[@BigRed40TECH]

One mistake is all it takes. lol

[@josemanuelmunizherrera1734]

@@BigRed40TECH That is one of the things I love the most about classic Battletech. How the scenario can turn on the most unexpected mistakes, and completely change course.

[@chrisbingley]

I imagine that the Spider performs better on table top than it does on PC. Whether I'm playing Battletech, MWO or MW5 the Spider always seems to be a free kill.

[@BigRed40TECH]

It does! But it's a mech where if you make one mistake, you're finished.

[@eddapultstab2078]

​@@BigRed40TECH light fast mechs are like that, I was trying to do a daring assassin rush, using all the run mp to stack a a high to hit while screening for my larger forces only to get ac 20ed to a leg and out of the fight fast. it seemed like a good idea until a lucky hit came.

[@robertmarquez343]

In the game I was never a fan of the spider like you said it gets outclassed by other light units like the Blackjack that can hold more weapons but I would say if you had to fight someone only one on one you don't want to fight a group with this unit I was getting close and used to jump Jets to jump over them to get in behind and shoot it and its flanks where they are mostly week I think that's the only Advantage she would have but if you need to focus fired and you're done

[@edrice2621]

If you have a problem with the Spider's thin armor, just wait till you pilot a Hussar!

[@heirofaniu]

I adore the Hussar.

[@fedupN]

Yes, but the Hussar has the range to make it absolutely hilarious and fun.

[@heirofaniu]

@@fedupN And depending on the situation you can get the Royal Hussar with the ECM and the Beagle, or the Clan Buster Hussar with the LB/X-10 on it and you can start laughing like a supervillain.

[@edrice2621]

​@@fedupN It also will explode into a cloud of confetti if you give it a mean stare, considering the thing is wrapped in a couple of boxes of Kleenex tissue paper.

[@heirofaniu]

@@edrice2621 Ammo explosions are the spice of life and make for an excellent field expedient Viking funeral.

[@passgo8507]

Hippity hoppity I’m zapping your property.

[@enricopaolocoronado2511]

The Emissary of Hell, Spider-Mech!

[@user-pq4by2rq9y]

I killed 19 mechs in this little thing in merc5 (Solaris). Fun and unforgiving. My favorite punching platform, IF you manage to find a special kind of crazy pilot willing and skilled enough to circle punch a Highlander in a light mech with no ejection seat.

[@Dang_Near_Fed_Up]

The Spider should more appropriately be known as the Ghost, as it is all but ethereal in the hands of an expert pilot. And in mountainous terrain it may as well be invisible as well, due it's insane movement and jump capacity.

[@JohnnySmithWhite-wd4ey]

Spider mech , Spider mech Does whatever a spider can.

[@yourseatatthetable]

I've never been a fan of this mech, perfering to sell or trade them off. The pilot needs to be very good or a bit crazy, or both. I also feel that here is a good example why dropping in an XL engine isn't improving every design. Just because the egghead's think something will improve something doesn't make it so.

[@Stranglygreen]

In a forest where jumping is king. This mech is great at being at the end of a conga line. And if not last then it just fades. Out side a forest.... yea its dead meat.

[@captaingeneralconch]

Total off topic but can't resist soooo..... spiders not as fast as that catgirl waifs 😱🙊💣

[@BigRed40TECH]

Boooo this man.

[@kenthekhan]

Boooo XD

[@captaingeneralconch]

@@BigRed40TECH worth it still

[@FrostyThundertrod]

RIP Decker

[@shakeemsymonds7362]

Who needs LAMs when you can chain fire jump jets?

[@StarGeezerTim]

I still get involuntary facial ticks when I run into these things in the hands of a capable pilot. They really suck for artillery and long distance support like LRM boats. One particularly skilled Spider jockey took out an entire rear squad of Catapults in what seemed like seconds. If you can manage to leg these little bastages, they're a bit easier to deal with but holy hell are they a pain!

[@starsidescav9487]

It makes a very good early game punch mech in mw5

[@wheturangi]

Jump behind, fire both torso mediums and double punch. Rinse and repeat. You double punch as you want to get a head hit. A missed kick means a piloting roll. I like the mech, but its pretty boring tactically. Bonus point, you get to paint it as your friendly neighborhood Spiderman.

[@paulsim7589]

You can almost ignore a spider till you killed all its mates. Also as your units get more intertwined, catching one with a few flamers whist its running hot can be funnie, and whilst its fast it can't keep up its harassment when other Lights or fast mechs are around. If your on flat ground a locust become quite scarry for spiders. Never been my fav mech.

[@josemanuelmunizherrera1734]

It is kind of an "ignore at your own peril" type situation, sometimes, though. I once made the mistake of ignoring the spider in my friend's lance. I focused all of my attention on engaging his heavier mechs. Overestimating the Spider quite a bit. Only to find that the damned thing had managed to jump right to the back of my main mech (a Thunderbolt, providing support fire from atop a tall hill). It swiftly pushed me down the hill, and made quick work of my lance's CO. Only to then escape, once again, beyond my reach. ... I HATE the Spider.

[@quanghuynguyenang8455]

Have you try 1 ppc spider

[@nemamiah7832]

Do you really need armour at TMM4? :D Spider is good, but the Venom upgrade is even better. Venoms really shine. Especially with DHS upgrade. And, just like the Javelin, hands are free for punching, mitigating the lacking firepower. Punching Table is scary. Love it.

[@brothersgt.grauwolff6716]

I was at a Battletech game last weekend when one player showed off his painted Mechs and he had 3 Spider's you can probably guess what paint scheme he used for his Spiders 😋

[@sebastiang.5032]

The sword/wings Spider is the best Spider

[@tomsimpkins1211]

This thing has harassed me in MW5 fifty seven too many times!

[@kylebarrie2887]

Good as a scout but other than that not much else, paper thin armour....I normally remove two jump jets to add a ton of armour.

[@NonApplicable1983]

It’s a great ‘mech, but would be scary as all hell to pilot without an ejection system.

[@TheGoldenBoy01-x4n]

What about the ECM variant? Jumps. Playload: Std M laser, Flamer.

[@Senrabekim]

The spider that should have been in the 3050 tech readout: Spider 2: The Moth Catcher gyro 2 Cockpit 3 Endosteel 1.5 Armor 4 Engine 300XL 9.5 10 double heat sinks Jump Jets x10 5 MASC 2 3 x Mlas Just something, anything that could compete with the murder tissue in pure speed, and maybe put one down with it's better maneuverability.

[@MOrab46019]

More of a raider. Like the stinger/wasp?

[@Qardo]

Deeply disappointed the Spider is not a multi-legged mech that is the face of terror on the battlefield. Though it is rare to even see one. When one does. Best hope it is on their side. Also, don't have arachnophobia.

[@BigRed40TECH]

I demand an 8 legged mech.

[@mrc8308]

No ejection system.. oh jeez!

[@JulianVR4]

Oh it CANT EJECT, you say? 🕵🏽‍♂️👀

[@JulianVR4]

My main man decker begs to differ

[@TheStraycat74]

I mean if you wanna get technical the entire MECH Ejects when it jumps... so there is that