"Everytime you're throwing the ball you're getting more information about... " where the table isn't
@rititone5 жыл бұрын
Ah, the Parker Throw...
@MrRyanroberson15 жыл бұрын
Parkesian statistics
@ekinteko5 жыл бұрын
I don't know why they didn't just play Battle Ships... its based on Bayesian reasoning!
@jursamaj5 жыл бұрын
"where the table isn't" It's a Parker Square table…
@amante24432 жыл бұрын
@@ekinteko I believe you and your comment to be genius!!! 😱 I believe this based on my never having thought of this example nor have I seen anyone else explain bayesian statistics with such a sublimely simple example. I, and the others, all use really stupidly complicated examples. Note, I'm not saying I'm a genius. But I'd bet, at least one of the other mathematicians I've referred to regarding Bayesian statistics, might be. BUT @Kangal, like Rev. Bayes (who I believe to be a believer) and Pascal (who I'd wager was also a believer), I believe you and your comment to be genius. If there wasn't a virus going around I'd kiss you. 😘
@framegrace15 жыл бұрын
- "What's the chance you find me here?" - "It's the first time I've found you here, so I don't know" I'll use that joke, with your permission...
@standupmaths5 жыл бұрын
It’s all yours!
@nikitaelizarov74445 жыл бұрын
That's a very frequentist approach to chances. After his conversion to Bayesianism, Matt wouldn't have said that ;)
@JorgetePanete5 жыл бұрын
well, we know that it's more than 0%
@lukasmuller62065 жыл бұрын
Chance is about predicting so in fact we actually know that the chance of them meeting is 100% since it happened, therefore has become a fact.
@danielemessina19795 жыл бұрын
"It's the first time I come here" would have been funnier. :D
@Adam_Floyd5 жыл бұрын
“How good are you at catch” “I understand the theory” 😂😂😂
@elvis_mello5 жыл бұрын
My history in experimental physics 😂😂
@tasherratt5 жыл бұрын
Hannah is getting plenty of practice as to being a mum of a toddler here.
@янонея-ш4я3 жыл бұрын
This might be the best comment I've ever seen on KZbin
@EcceJack3 жыл бұрын
Ahahahaha 😂😂😂 this REALLY got me, for some reason!
@amante24432 жыл бұрын
I've watched this video several times and I can't believe I've never noticed this comment. And when I did, I burst out laughing and nearly knocked over my cup of coffee onto a mum with a toddler on the next table (I'm in a cafe)? What's the statistical probability of that (i.e. there being a mum and the toddler while reading a comment about a mum and a [metaphorical? toddler)?
@thecanmanification Жыл бұрын
“Its okay, we can do it again 😃”
@falsenames3 жыл бұрын
Can I just have Hannah and Matt explain everything to me? The sheer enthusiasm for math on display is infectious.
@martijnvanweele62045 жыл бұрын
Schrödinger, Descartes and Bayes walk into a bar. The bartender asks: "Would you gentlemen like a drink?" Schrödinger says: "Yes and no." Descartes says: "I don't think so." Bayes says: "I'm not certain."
@hamiltonianpathondodecahed52364 жыл бұрын
didn't get the descartes part
@gibrana92144 жыл бұрын
"I doubt therefore I think, I think therefore I am" - René Descartes
@nelsonsegura-nunez79433 жыл бұрын
Bayes: "Ask us again..."
@ilikeyourname48073 жыл бұрын
Descartes: "I think not" *disappears*
@The_Bri_Cli Жыл бұрын
I'm going to use this one
@bellsTheorem11385 жыл бұрын
"Embrace uncertainty, but quantify it" is my new motto.
@Laurabeck3294 жыл бұрын
This has the same energy as "Take it easy, but take it"
@bartjennings5 жыл бұрын
Some Parker throws right there
@TheDiggster135 жыл бұрын
In fairness to him he did give it a go, even though he wasn't entirely successful
@Bodyknock5 жыл бұрын
Clearly it was a Parker Square Table. 🙂
@ugabugasuga15 жыл бұрын
Matt Parker: Making a pregnant woman repeatedly bend down and pick up his throws, while he is sitting in a comfy chair :P
@Spiros2195 жыл бұрын
I didn't notice she was pregnant
@chrisray15675 жыл бұрын
Parker chivalry
@AntonoirJacques5 жыл бұрын
@@Peter_1986 You mean like being near a staircase?
@Sibula5 жыл бұрын
I didn't even realize she was pregnant before your comment. Now that I looked again it's so obvious...
@thebugbear5 жыл бұрын
@@Peter_1986 I don't think they were saying it was dangerous, just a little rude since it's harder to bend down when you're pregnant :)
@xela83845 жыл бұрын
I've never seen Bayes' fundamental insight so amusingly explained. Nor so clearly. Nicely done! (Also: congratulations to Dr Fry on the forthcoming addition to your family!)
@karlkastor5 жыл бұрын
I have heard that throwing the ball on the table example before, but actually seeing it being done makes it so much clearer to understand!
@warrenyazzie99755 жыл бұрын
Have you read the paper they are referring to? This experiment is discussed in Section II. It's one of those things you have to draw on paper or do in real life to get a proper feel for what Bayes' saying. What I found really interesting is that Rice's motivation for submitting this paper was for it to be used as proof of Intelligent Design. 😮
@topilinkala15942 жыл бұрын
@@warrenyazzie9975 Actually I'd say that Bayesian view excludes gods alltogether. There's no confidentialy, that you can measure, about exitence of a physical god. There is good examples of a methaphorical gods exitance though. Look for example all churches and temples and what not and ask if the builders had a god in their mind when they did those. But a mtphorical god is like justice: it exists only in deeds and thoughts of men.
@L0j1k5 жыл бұрын
"And thanks to the owners of the house! Turns out, one of them's a mathematician..." This is the least surprising statement I think I've ever heard in my life.
@evilotto92005 жыл бұрын
4:10 Hannah's exasperated declaration of "Try" should cause you lot to call and thank your mothers.
@aj762575 жыл бұрын
I love your profile picture and username! I wish more people were familiar with Berzerk.
@assafabram96495 жыл бұрын
Hanna Try
@micahlong20735 жыл бұрын
6:03 One mathematician tells another mathematician to be more random. The irony here is delightful.
@user-ky6vw5up9m3 жыл бұрын
Micah Long why ironic?
@AtticAurel3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ky6vw5up9m I think because you can be either random or not. It's hard to be "more" random. You could increase the sample size of course or the step size, but random is random, it doesn't become more random.
@davidarredondo21064 ай бұрын
@@AtticAurel I was surprised to learn that “random” isn’t well defined mathematically. But probability is, and comparing probability distributions is well researched, to say the least.
@jwb_5 жыл бұрын
Literally bought Hello World an hour before this video was released. Now I have 2 great maths books to get absorbed into. Maths books are like buses, you wait years for a good one and then 2 turn up almost at once!
@karlkastor5 жыл бұрын
Do you think Hannah's book is good for actual computer programmers? I would read it if it is more about the ethics and psychology relating to algorithms, but if half of it is trying to explain algorithms in laymen's terms I would not enjoy it.
@snookerbg5 жыл бұрын
quote of the century
@amber18625 жыл бұрын
@@karlkastor It's definitely more about the ethics of the algorithms used in our modern world, and she rarely explains what the algorithms are and how they work (only enough to potentially peak interest so you go off and Google it). It's not a book to read if you want answers and definitions, it's a book that presents questions you didn't even think about asking in the first place. It's terrifying and hilarious, but mostly terrifying; I highly recommend it :).
@thontor5 жыл бұрын
This is the first i've seen or heard of Hannah Fry. I'm already a fan. She is awesome.
@rafbambam3 жыл бұрын
It is official YOU DO NEED TO DO MORE WITH BOTH OFF YOU. The interaction (and faces drown) between you guys is hilarius to watch, and we are learning at the same time. Great video. Greetings from Belgium.
@igorperfeitovivo3 жыл бұрын
They always have so much fun together, that it spreads and reaches us through.
@mrswats5 жыл бұрын
Always love to see Hannah Fry! Loved this one as well.
@NoNTr1v1aL5 жыл бұрын
"It's all about that Bayes" - Thomas Bayes probably.
@karlkastor5 жыл бұрын
There's a paper titled "Drum'n'Bayes". They use Bayesian networks for pattern recognition on music.
@judicator3755 жыл бұрын
"Its all about that Bayes - no table" :-)
@panda42475 жыл бұрын
I think, you guys may be a little bit biased.
@PaulG.x3 ай бұрын
Not about the treble
@ditzfough5 жыл бұрын
Anybody else find Hannahs voice soothing? Intelligent and beautiful but the voice gets me everytime.
@yuvalne5 жыл бұрын
Parker throw (I had to)
@Dixavd5 жыл бұрын
A video with two hosts where one is sitting down for most of the video while the heavily pregnant woman has to stand the whole time... Fine work, Matt! In all seriousness, this was a lovely video and the playfulness between you two is infectious.
@user-vn7ce5ig1z5 жыл бұрын
She's the expert, so she's the one that came up with the experiment.
@TacoDude3145 жыл бұрын
I wish Hannah Fry had a KZbin channel
@ViatorRex5 жыл бұрын
At least we've got "The Curious Cases of Rutherford and Fry"
@blueskyredkite5 жыл бұрын
@@ViatorRex Oh! Is that this Rutherford?!
@faielgila73753 жыл бұрын
6:00 "you're actually remarkably consistent" "Consistency is only a virtue if you're not a screw-up" -Grant Sanderson
@fahrenheit21013 жыл бұрын
Can always count on Grant to come up with the goods!
@77Chester775 жыл бұрын
Matt and Hannah are a great team, I enjoyed this video very much.
@rickseiden14 жыл бұрын
I know it's been a long time since this came out, but I have to say, the best part of this video is watching two good friends have fun with each other!
@twinklestar35565 жыл бұрын
Love your silly mathloving face! That smirk and side eye gets me every time!
@jarredallen32285 жыл бұрын
"I was a certaintist...I don't know." You don't sound like a very good certaintist.
@bsharpmajorscale4 жыл бұрын
He was certain that he didn't know!
@goranandersson35444 жыл бұрын
I know that I was a certainist, but now I'm fairly confident that I am a bayesianist.
@RaglansElectricBaboon3 жыл бұрын
Bayesian sounds like a colour. I'm not sure what colour.
@ratlinggull22232 жыл бұрын
@@RaglansElectricBaboon Beige-ian.
@wittycommentator5 жыл бұрын
When I was in high school statistics we were talking about Bayesian probability, and one of my classmates asked "Isn't that a black asian?", and my teacher said "no I believe that's blasian" and I will always remember that interaction.
@NanoDomino15 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to see Matt throw the second ball directly on the first ball and Hanna tell him that the coordinates of the balls are exactly the same. Great video! :D
@mattstuart24295 жыл бұрын
I love this! I'm taking a class on Bayesian statistics now, and I would consider myself a Bayesian vs a Frequentist.
@marctelfer61595 жыл бұрын
Another Parker/Fry video? Ummm, hell yes! Love you two :D
@_zelatrix3 жыл бұрын
They should write a joint book titled "Tinker, Tailor, Parker, Fry"
@vigilantcosmicpenguin87213 жыл бұрын
@@_zelatrix I'm sure they could find two mathematicians with apt names who can be given credit as co-authors.
@devtech10005 жыл бұрын
congrats for the baby!
@Zolbat5 жыл бұрын
And to the father
@LordNezghul5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, another person to suffer on this world.
@lunafoxfire5 жыл бұрын
@@LordNezghul oof edgy
@joshuawan70045 жыл бұрын
@@LordNezghul only Jesus can end our suffering
@JorgetePanete5 жыл бұрын
@@joshuawan7004 lol wtf?
@nialltracey25995 жыл бұрын
Excellent, excellent, excellent video. I studied Computer Science at uni, with a little bit of AI. Bayesian statistics was important, but I never knew where Bayes was coming from. My eyes are well and truly opened. And of course, many congratulations to Dr. Fry.
@adamsbja5 жыл бұрын
"If you had an infinite number of throws, and you could throw them perfectly randomly..." he would miss the table most of the time. It's like the old joke (well, I'm old and I was told the joke) of a physicist trying to explain the Monte Carlo method in a bar, so they describe it in terms of throwing darts at a dartboard. Come back next week and the bartender says "welcome back, I loved your explanation. Has your aim gotten any better?"
@bordershader5 жыл бұрын
Apropos of nothing, please thank the owners of that house for letting us glimpse inside. It's beautiful! Also, congrats to Dr Fry. I genuinely didn't notice until I read these comments.
@KuyVonBraun5 жыл бұрын
You guys need your own tv show 💜
@olik1365 жыл бұрын
they should make an audiobook together where they simultaneously read their 2 books...
@CraftQueenJr5 жыл бұрын
Oh god the cacophony...
@milesroe50824 жыл бұрын
Check out "Numberphile"
@vigilantcosmicpenguin87213 жыл бұрын
Someone should write two books so that they synchronize when read together.
@ighao60322 жыл бұрын
PLEASE I would love it
@zip958433 жыл бұрын
Their duo is killing it! Good match!
@deeliciousplum2 жыл бұрын
Wionderful and clear explanation. And, a priceless end skit of sharing about two books.
@jasonmantАй бұрын
These 2 fabulous ppl would be on my fantasy dinner table guest list so much fun thank you
@myspacetimesaucegoog56325 жыл бұрын
Bayes rocks! And probably rules too. Thanks for such a fun rundown on the basic approach
@BritishBeachcomber8 ай бұрын
Two of my three favourite Mathologers having fun.
@RafaelAcurcio3 жыл бұрын
The humor is on point. Love the videos
@muyiwaiyowu4 жыл бұрын
Just reading the part of “Hello World” where Bayesian Statistics was discussed, and it reminded me of this video. This is probably what prompted me to buy the book in the first place! Took me a while, but I finally got around to reading it. Gotta pick up Humble Pi next!
@benjaminplatt41095 жыл бұрын
Always love videos with Hannah, congrats on her upcoming family too
@SianNadine5 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate this because that equation is on my wall as I’m revising statistics for my semester 2 first year exam and this has given me some insight
@hadianasliwa91615 ай бұрын
Love the way, Hannah explains things
@karlkastor5 жыл бұрын
I just wrote an exam on Bayesian/Belief networks. It's a very interesting topic. They are very useful. Like Hannah's self-driving car example, robots can never know for sure if their sensory inputs are correct, so you need to account for uncertainty by using Bayesian nets. Matt could do a video on Hidden Markov Models, which are the simplest Belief networks to understand.
@kujmous5 жыл бұрын
Both of you keep math fascinating, and you're both loved for it.
@perman175 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you Dr Fry and Matt!
@MichaelCampbell015 жыл бұрын
You 2 are absolutely delightful.
@jedem.41583 жыл бұрын
If Hannah, Matt, and Grant (Sanderson) did a video together that would be amazing. Such lovely humans who share their unbridled joy of mathematics make my day.
@TimMeep5 жыл бұрын
A fun, interesting, educational duo - the king and queen of mathematical edutainment
@raindog9862 Жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite things on youtube
@Varksterable5 жыл бұрын
Finally! All that stuff I did in a previous job makes sense. I could do the computer stuff, I could do the mathematics stuff; but now I think I actually SEE what it's all about. Great job. I expect no less from this channel, but this one really struck a chord. 😍Hannah 🤩Matt The wrap-up from 11:00 or so should be a compulsory part of the education system.
@Rogue_Fox5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Parker I absolutely love your videos! And Hannah being in this one makes it even better!
@stephenbenner43535 жыл бұрын
I think it is worth watching Matt’s videos more than once sometimes. I thought he was just being silly updating his belief about the house, but I had forgotten that by the end of the video. But watching again (showing it to my niece) I noticed right away what he was doing.
@Scapestoat5 жыл бұрын
You guys look like you're having so much fun! I love it~
@Tahoza5 жыл бұрын
The term I hear used that is more in contrast to Bayesian is "frequentist" just FYI. This is more looking at the things in a more Gaussian or Fischer way.
@pep_4_climate6 ай бұрын
Great science communicators! Science needs more Matts and Hannahs!👩🏫👨🏫
@Galakyllz5 жыл бұрын
This was great! Thanks for the maths and the laughs.
@brutalkangaroo304 жыл бұрын
Hannah and Matt are a great combo for making math fun!
@RiCOW1645 жыл бұрын
probably my favourite mathematician and my favourite school of inference in one video.. Matt Parker, you've done it again
@BillyEilish3 жыл бұрын
You guys are great, Matt. Love the dynamic between the duo!
@PassionPopsicle5 жыл бұрын
Love the hair on Doctor Fry! (also, love the video, but that's a given)
@danielemessina19795 жыл бұрын
Used these concepts a lot while studying analog telecommunications. A typical question is: given that I am receiving X what's the probability that Y was transmitted.
@davidioanhedges4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks to the stars of this - Hannah, Matt, the briefly appearing camera operator, and of course Hannah Jr ...
@sevret3135 жыл бұрын
You should use this uncertainty to save your Parker Square.
@msaadnadeem5 жыл бұрын
This is the content I subscribed for and I'm definately not disappointed
@keyem45043 жыл бұрын
The two of you are so entertaining. I really love it. 😁
@GuanoLad5 жыл бұрын
Statistics indicate Hannah Fry will always be a great guest.
@Mr_Mooo5 жыл бұрын
Loved the plugs at the end, very nice indeed
@BobfromSydney5 жыл бұрын
"As I throw more balls my confidence in my throwing skills lowers asymptotically towards zero."
@peppybocan5 жыл бұрын
and now on Kolmogorov statistics!
@MitchellD2493 жыл бұрын
It's hilarious how this video manages to explain the concept well even though Matt's terrible throws made it a complete fluke that his guess was close. The first ball *was* in the South of the table, but it could have been slightly North of centre and he'd have still guessed it was that far South because every subsequent throw landed right on the Northern edge.
@titleloanman5 жыл бұрын
Hannah Fry is a treasure
@Confuseddave5 жыл бұрын
Speaking of "what were you before"; at least in some corners of science, the opposite of Bayesianism (or perhaps more accurately, the paradigm Bayesianism is generally set up as an alternative to) is Frequentism. I remain to be convinced that there is a meaningful difference in practice.
@hjhornbeck5 жыл бұрын
Try this, it convinced me: jakevdp.github.io/blog/2014/06/06/frequentism-and-bayesianism-2-when-results-differ/
@Cr42yguy5 жыл бұрын
Hannah and Matt in one video? Great start into the weekend!
@NicolaCappellini5 жыл бұрын
OMG two of my favorite people!
@ayushthada95445 жыл бұрын
This is the best video I have seen this month.
@Rizon19855 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a video where Hannah isn't pregnant. So make sure you have the correct data before you make conclusions from it.
@niabride76365 жыл бұрын
Try TEDx videos ;)
@Frownlandia5 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one getting strong Beverly Crusher vibes from Hannah in that jacket?
@gothicsoldier5 жыл бұрын
Well, I am now
@cawfeedawg5 жыл бұрын
Hush Wesley.
@chantelm92555 жыл бұрын
I didn’t the first time but just watched this again, and that’s the first thing I thought when I saw Hannah!
@IpsitDhal5 жыл бұрын
these conversation is like two mathematicians flirting each other.
@brunobelotticom5 жыл бұрын
I wish my math professors were talented and funny as you: I didn't know any better back then, and I might be "bayesed", but I'm now more confident math can be entertaining. ;) Also, congratulations Dr. Fry!
@Njald5 жыл бұрын
I never get tired of Matt's adorable awkwardness or Hannah's charm.
@beningram18115 жыл бұрын
I feel like there is naturally going to be a bias introduced if the thrower is the one guessing where the subsequent ones are in relation to their first throw. This is because, the thrower is aware that their first throw hit the table, and without being able to SEE the table, will try to mimic their initial throw (because you'll otherwise get a lot of instances of "Did not hit the table try again", and they will be trying to help the experiment proceed). To alleviate this, i suggest adding a third person, who will only throw AFTER the first throw, and therefore will not have that initial throw to base their subsequent throws on, but will still receive the same information.
@RexGalilae5 жыл бұрын
When she told Parker that he was being very consistent with his throws, he could tone down the modifications to his x1, x2, x3... values, getting a more accurate result in the process. More rigorously, small deviations in y must result in small corrections to x from my understanding.
@sam08g165 жыл бұрын
I don't care what the video is about, I read Hannah Fry I click.
@4trym5 жыл бұрын
She's just lovely!
@Grozdor5 жыл бұрын
Thankfully I have watched Derek's vid of the same topic so I can follow this video easily.
@flightvision5 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful lesson.
@kimschroder93545 жыл бұрын
Matt, if you had to guess, what would you say is the bigger number: A: Tree(3)! B: Tree(4)
@tomsmith68785 жыл бұрын
tree 4
@PopeGoliath5 жыл бұрын
For a second I thought Tree(3)! meant Tree(3)×Tree(2)×Tree(1) and was all "Psssh, easy." Then I realized my mistake and had a second think. Factorials grow quickly, but Tree grows much, MUCH faster. I think adding another step of Tree will blow the factorial operation out of the water.
@ryaneakins72695 жыл бұрын
Factorial is actually pretty weak once you get up to numbers like Tree(n>2). It's like lending a dollar to a trillionaire.
@hirvonenjoonas72815 жыл бұрын
@@ryaneakins7269 *Tree(llionaire)
@AkiSan05 жыл бұрын
ignore my ignorance... *ashamed in silence*
@cristhianoduarte83203 жыл бұрын
Aumann's Agreement Theorem! Please! That would be FANTASTIC!
@joebykaeby5 жыл бұрын
All the awesome people are writing books these days!
@grzegorzcichosz82405 жыл бұрын
„february” ah, love all those fresh videos
@nelsblair26675 жыл бұрын
I would guess that y’all make great videos but I would be more confident if I had more samples.
@estiaanj84255 жыл бұрын
Yup, we definitely need more examples... For science
@robertnewell50573 ай бұрын
Bayes and Fry in a single episode. How much more can a poor boy stand and live. Brilliant.
@brunopaganeli24643 жыл бұрын
Nice explanations. It will be very useful to me! Tks.