BBC - ITV - Schools and Continuity - 1973 - 1975

[@97channel]

Fred Dinenage was a middle-aged man for well over 40 years.

[@goffer43]

I find these old news programmes absolutely fascinating. I was born in 1973 and they show exactly how the world was in the past. Many thanks, studio2television! :)

[@angelacooper2661]

I am therefore three years older than you as I was born in 1970. Pity that I was too young to understand or remember that period first time round!

[@appropriatedsubdiffusion9260]

The Play School from 23rd January '73 is listed as no longer existing on Kaleidoscope's TV Brain, so it's nice that the first couple of minutes are here at least - I was really willing the recording of that to go on for longer! Lovely stuff.

[@arthurnibble4763]

That's the fifth ITV region I know of that Fred Dinenage worked for - Southern / TVS / Meridian in the south, Anglia in the east (quiz show "Gambit"), Yorkshire (weekend football coverage), Scottish ("How 2") and now Tyne Tees in the north east!

[@mikemartin2957]

London Weekend television as well ! Fred was the deputy presenter of World of Sport from 1969/ 70 until around 1985 ! This was when the main host Dickie Davies was on holiday or introducing a live outside broadcast of usually a major football match! ( This would have been until 1972 the Wembley studios, then Kent House on the South Bank '72 onwards. )Fred has presented Bank Holiday World of Sport on Mondays , now this was from Thames Television 's Euston road studio! That's 2 more ITV companies! I wouldn't be surprised if he worked for ATV / Central as well because they covered a lot of Sports programmes. The company I most associate with Fred is Southern!

[@arthurvasey]

While not actually working for ATV, a clip of Tiswas featured him in a World Of Sport sketch!

[@darganx]

Fred Dinenage IS television.

[@5implesimon]

Thank you for preserving this

[@mbvideoselection]

I got sent a copy of all this on VHS years ago, and I'm not sure exactly where at the moment, being somewhere in a storage unit. I'd love to find it again and see if my current VCR with TBC can squeeze any colour out of it, because when I first played it on the VCR I had at the time, I recall occasional flashes of colour creeping through, only for the odd frame here or there.

[@TheGramophoneGirl]

Was that the CRT tv picking up on the croma dots in the recording? rather than the recording having any colour? It looks like it's from a reel to reel b&w video to me. But I could be wrong.

[@mbvideoselection]

@@TheGramophoneGirl Chroma dots are a no-no on a domestic video recording, because there just isn't enough bandwidth in the luminance to carry their frequencies. That's why domestic video systems use a technique called "colour under" where the frequencies are shifted downwards in order to accommodate them within the tolerances that such equipment is capable of handling. In order for colour to break through on a domestic video recording, there would have to be some, minimal, amount of colour burst left that's enough to stop the VCR or TV from filtering it out.

[@goffer43]

That clips with people dancing to the Four Tops reminds me of how "Top Of The Pops" used to finish! LOL!

[@richardsharpe2966]

There is only one word for Fred Legend

[@NathanSimpsonnathanisbeast]

That January 1973 episode of Play School was shown 2 days Before my Mum was born!!!

[@DaveMuirhead]

The very sedate 1970s presentation style of playschool. A lot more laid back.

[@tv-dawniej]

Someone sent this tape to you. There was a closedown from BBC 2 from this tape uploaded to TV Ark from someone with a different VCR.

[@cfntl2629]

I don't exactly know when the first clip was but I would guess before the school year of 75-76 because this has the old variant of the holding slide. Edit: now that I think about it the Tyne Tees end logo has no copyright date so I think this before late '74 (For example ATV on two LW kaleidoscope videos; the one from February has no copyright date while the one from October does).

[@cfntl2629]

Plus the fact that they say (possibly) Edward Heath IS prime minister makes me believe that the first of two news broadcasts is from February 1974

[@martintabony611]

It's interesting that they were talking to children from Newcastle,. I would have been their age at that time, living in Byker Newcastle. The first thing we learned to do in the morning was to put salt down to kill the slugs that had come out during the night! They were tearing down those houses at about the time this was made.

[@trevorbrown6654]

Fred was in his early 30s here but looks at least 50. Fortunately for him he looked exactly the same for the rest of his career and finally retired in 2021 aged 79. I remember him presenting How? alongside the late Jack Hargreaves.

[@darren2514fv]

Fred Dinenage on a ITV Schools programme as a presenter

[@Amyz87]

Announcers on these clips are as follows (please correct me if im wrong) BBC Schools Clip from 1974 Announcer: Roger Maude. BBC1 Clip into Play school from 23/1/1973 Announcer: Tim Nichols. BBC 2 Cilp into Look Stranger 8/1/1973 Announcer: John Glover. BBC 2 Clip into test card and afternoon closedown 6/3/1974 Announcer: Peter Bolgar. BBC 1 Clip October to December 1974 Continuity into Top Score Announcer: Malcolm Eynon. BBC 2 Clip with Rundown menu for the evenings viewing 5-5-1975 Announcer: Peter Brook. Please correct me if im wrong on the annoucers.

[@DBIVUK]

That bit of news from 10:02 to 12:27 was an important development of the February 1974 election - the CBI boss basically undermined the Conservative campaign. As you see Harold Wilson made the most of it.

[@daverhodes362]

Jean Rogers, a.k.a Dolly Skillbeck mk 2, co-presenting Watch.

[@givemethevalium]

Does the Dinenage programme actually go to the end credits whilst that woman is speaking?? Odd

[@jasejj]

@treffynnon19 And Tyne Tees were still using that practice in the late 1980s with Straight Talk. As you say pretty much standard practice for many years.

[@betaman7988]

What were these recorded on? If it’s CV2000, it looks remarkably good

[@harlowcomputerrepairs7839]

Love it x

[@janinefarnell8570]

Top Score is brilliant

[@bigbreadeaterellis]

Isn't the host 'How's' Fred Dineage?

[@daverhodes362]

It is, and production by Tyne Tees' religious specialist. Maxwell Deas.

[@pupilcrosby7123]

Omnipresent Fred Dinage. I'll bet his autobiography would be a good read.

[@pupilcrosby7123]

Just looked up Dineage and biography... He's only gone and written the authorized biography of the Krays! So much more to the man than local news, Gambit and supply teacher on World Of Sport!

[@ianfryer8386]

Does anyone recognise the lovely jazz piano piece played at 1.40?

[@barryp9463]

10:17 the reporter had a British rail moment

[@antster1983]

Can anyone identify the tune over the Lightspots caption?

[@nowster]

Red Sails in the Sunset

[@dvidclapperton]

When did the UK go full colour? A lot of black and white for approaching the mid 1970's.

[@martinhughes2549]

Its am off air recording. These programmes would have been broadcast in Colour.

[@darganx]

Late 1969, although selected programmes on BBC2 from 1967.

[@betaman7988]

At 10:17 someone trips! Luckily not Dimbleby but still

[@stephenfenwick4309]

Fred Dinenage discussing housing issues in the 1970s: nothing has changed in the near 50yrs since this was made, particularly as Fred's daughter is a Tory MP, held a number of Ministerial positions since 2010 and is a strong supporter of Brexit. About time we go the Tories out...

[@TCDL11]

Why did BBC2 had to have the Testcard and irritating beep tone in the afternoon?

[@brucedanton3669]

Indeed so too, why not Test Card F with music at least, I wonder-very odd indeed too!!

[@Xoxopeoplechannel]

Hi there!

[@TheGramophoneGirl]

lol, memories of school in the 1970s. An old reel to reel video recorder and tv combo was wheeled in and we had to watch programmes like this - in black and white. And yes, the picture quality was as bad as that back then! (well, not quite as bad but almost)

[@andymurday4538]

Do you have the full video of the programmes?

[@sdaonline]

Andy murday sadly not!

[@AntarcticaTelevision]

Fred Dineage on Tyne Tees.

[@MrBetamax]

What format was this originally recorded on? N1500?

[@AutieTeleDexBaBrBo]

Whoops. Some girl tripped off in the background. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmHHnGqtgteAn6c

[@eddief32]

When did the BBC switch over from using a 440Hz tone to 1kHz?

[@PhilReynoldsLondonGeek]

In the case of BBC2, 440 was normal even as recently as 2003.

[@nowster]

BBC 1 was 1 kHz. BBC 2 was 440 Hz.

[@roberthorwat6747]

Merdi 23 Janvier c'est 1973... or in English money, Playschool on Tuesday the 23rd of January would have been 1973. Harold Wilson election footage was 1974. Interesting mash up!

[@MartyOGorman]

Fred Dinenage presents Storage Jars

[@BHUVANBEATSMUSICS]

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[@BHUVANBEATSMUSICS]

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[@BHUVANBEATSMUSICS]

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[@joannegray5138]

Who on Earth decided those striped trousers were a good idea? No wonder the 70s were known as the Decade Taste Forgot.

[@marianavoica3908]

Duminică 20 Decembrie 1974

[@BruceDanton-xw6eg]

Very nice shame no colour though.

[@hazelevans872]

Test card lol black and white

[@darganx]

Test cards have been used on television since the Baird experiments in the 1920s. The first test card in colour is the iconic BBC Test Card F from 1967, which can still be seen today in some capacity.