World Athletics bans transgender women athletes from female events - BBC News

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Жыл бұрын

World Athletics has banned transgender female athletes from competing in the female category at international events.
The governing body's president, Lord Coe, said no female transgender athlete who had gone through male puberty would be permitted to compete in female world ranking competitions from 31 March.
A working group will be set up to conduct further research into the transgender eligibility guidelines.
"We're not saying no forever," he said.
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@luvsachkash
@luvsachkash Жыл бұрын
Feel bad for all the female athletes who lost to men and retired in these 7 years
@rororidley5829
@rororidley5829 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@spaceace1006
@spaceace1006 11 ай бұрын
"XY" Chromosome??? You ain't a Woman!
@amiraking6688
@amiraking6688 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@spaceace1006 Where did you learn that primary school 😂you clearly don’t understand advanced biology please don’t pretend that you do
@thatoneguy8010
@thatoneguy8010 10 ай бұрын
@@amiraking6688 but hes right wdym
@Emirthemarvelfanboi
@Emirthemarvelfanboi 10 ай бұрын
​@@amiraking6688shut up
@conradblack779
@conradblack779 Жыл бұрын
What’s surprising is that they have to even state that biological males shouldn’t be competing against females. This should just be common sense to the vast majority of people
@karenmarieh.j.3842
@karenmarieh.j.3842 Жыл бұрын
They only said that transgender women ans girls who did not go through male puberty can not compete. Since blockers are still allowed in some countries and most states here ....we will still have transgender girls and women competing. Just not the ones from some Red states and countries such as Uganda.
@overbyte
@overbyte Жыл бұрын
Given the number of health problems that users of puberty blockers are already showing, including bone density even osteoporosis problems as well as the mental health issues that early users have shown, this is probably not going to be a huge issue for the peak of athletics competition
@conradblack779
@conradblack779 Жыл бұрын
@@sebastianguerre6868 lmfao if dudes can pretend to be chicks you should be able to identify as a cat
@cabininthewoods7326
@cabininthewoods7326 Жыл бұрын
I'm 59, but I identify as a 25 year old with grey hair
@andreypetrov4868
@andreypetrov4868 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it discrimination ?
@titteryenot4524
@titteryenot4524 Жыл бұрын
Sensible decision. Allowing trans women to compete in biologically female categories is as unfair as allowing an adult football team to play in an under-14s league.
@karenmarieh.j.3842
@karenmarieh.j.3842 Жыл бұрын
Did they ban Transgender female athletes? Might want to listen to the news conference one more time.
@simmorg290
@simmorg290 Жыл бұрын
@@karenmarieh.j.3842 What do you mean? Isn't a trans woman a transgender female? It wouldn't make sense if they weren't.
@ferociousfil5747
@ferociousfil5747 Жыл бұрын
@@karenmarieh.j.3842 just read the title I guess. It’s click bait
@Spinq
@Spinq Жыл бұрын
@@karenmarieh.j.3842 "Did they ban Transgender female athletes?" Not banned, but excluded from the female category as Ivor stated - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKq8o6hqeNB8gJo- At least is sounds like that to me, at least pending further evidence. What is your understanding of the decision?
@mopar_keys
@mopar_keys Жыл бұрын
@@karenmarieh.j.3842 they are banned
@dorayantz3649
@dorayantz3649 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for these new rules. Let it be fair to all female athletes.
@krob2327
@krob2327 Жыл бұрын
Sadly the women’s tennis tour still allows anybody with a testosterone level 10x that of the average female to compete
@reazsouman8932
@reazsouman8932 Жыл бұрын
My appreciation , i read this daily !
@dorayantz3649
@dorayantz3649 Жыл бұрын
@@krob2327😳😳 hopefully the rules change after this.
@krob2327
@krob2327 Жыл бұрын
@@dorayantz3649 sadly they won’t. Tennis has always been very elitist in a strange way also anything goes. I’m a good club player but I have no chance against people with ten times the testosterone I have. Everybody in tennis knows a lot of the wta are trans and it’s unfair but are too scared to talk. I mean I can openly say it but the women with a platform in the sport are terrified.
@B6gmxy
@B6gmxy Жыл бұрын
@@krob2327plenty of women play against men in tennis and lose and that’s ok. Biological I mean.
@angeloarcenas5947
@angeloarcenas5947 Жыл бұрын
Anyone who respects women should applaud this decision.
@ChrisAlbertH47
@ChrisAlbertH47 Жыл бұрын
They should be allowed to compete, but in a division made for them, not in the female division. That's fair I think.
@cruisemissile2873
@cruisemissile2873 Жыл бұрын
They should compete in a male division. They are men
@WS-47ha
@WS-47ha Жыл бұрын
@@cruisemissile2873 Even though they are men, they have almost no testosterone, they would get dusted by any cis man they go against. Better for them to have their own section.
@ykvs
@ykvs Жыл бұрын
in a way they did. I mean don't they want to prove that women are stronger than men if they win? It's a win-win for them. But at the end of the day they know that if they compete with the men category they will be at disadvantage because of hormones blocked by hrt. Just like the women who had a disadvantage when trans compete with their category. Wake up people, its not about the gender anymore. Its about a biological trait that born male have. Just because you want equality it does not mean that you should ruin what other people have (in this case women)
@heezyforsheez
@heezyforsheez 7 ай бұрын
Then they need to fight for their own division just like we had to
@WellOilBeefHooked
@WellOilBeefHooked Жыл бұрын
It's still shocking that it reached the point of consideration. Future generations will mock this generation.
@reazsouman8932
@reazsouman8932 Жыл бұрын
My appreciation , i read this daily !
@mukulkhan327
@mukulkhan327 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much !😀
@pieseldatches
@pieseldatches Жыл бұрын
More like future generations will be much worse.
@jaylewis7017
@jaylewis7017 Жыл бұрын
I hope so I fear not though🤮
@ASDFCH
@ASDFCH Жыл бұрын
I remember chuckling in my mind when I learned about cultures that drilled holes into peoples skulls. *How silly they are*, I thought. But here we are in the modern world debating if men can compete with women. So yes, you are right, the future will mock us.
@leedex
@leedex Жыл бұрын
Big win for biological woman. This is bravery 💪
@TiberiusCaeser
@TiberiusCaeser Жыл бұрын
Just say women🤦‍♂️😂
@captaincooool
@captaincooool 11 ай бұрын
Big win for women
@amiraking6688
@amiraking6688 10 ай бұрын
as a woman this is actually a tragic loss this is really sad
@Emirthemarvelfanboi
@Emirthemarvelfanboi 10 ай бұрын
​@@TiberiusCaeserlgbt bot
@Emirthemarvelfanboi
@Emirthemarvelfanboi 10 ай бұрын
​@@amiraking6688shut up lgbt bot
@shelonmarks7002
@shelonmarks7002 Жыл бұрын
This is wonderful news,as a woman I am glad to hear.
@salmonesque
@salmonesque Жыл бұрын
As a man I'm really glad to hear it too! Hard to believe that it was ever allowed to become such an issue in the first place. Ridiculous. Sense has prevailed.
@joe.oneill
@joe.oneill Жыл бұрын
Equal Rights does not give anyone a Right to trample the Rights of others.
@joedowning2428
@joedowning2428 Жыл бұрын
Weird how no one had an issue with this until last year when the media started talking about it
@linkofvev
@linkofvev Жыл бұрын
@@joedowning2428 Humanity in a nutshell.
@maddogbasil
@maddogbasil Жыл бұрын
So glad to see common sense is finally being reached 🤦 Can't believe this was even a discussion in the first place 😑😑
@andrewharrington6953
@andrewharrington6953 Жыл бұрын
Finally some sanity in the world
@Floki-D.
@Floki-D. Жыл бұрын
You misspelt blind bigotry
@andrewharrington6953
@andrewharrington6953 Жыл бұрын
@@Floki-D. No, you misread it
@Floki-D.
@Floki-D. Жыл бұрын
@@andrewharrington6953 idk Andrew. Seems like this decision was made because of bigotrt since you know, sports aren't meant to be fair
@andrewharrington6953
@andrewharrington6953 Жыл бұрын
@@Floki-D. If you think sports aren't meant to be fair then you are being foolish. Have you seen the Trans women who was competing in the UFC. She was a below average male fighter who transitioned and started knocking out and seriously injuring women fighters, or maybe the male weight lifter who transitioned, broke lots of world records then transitioned back. Have Trans people compete against Trans people, then the playing field is level.
@Floki-D.
@Floki-D. Жыл бұрын
@Andrew Harrington you live in a fantasy world. First of the sources? Isn't it possible that this vague ufc fighter also trained in between really well? Also, nobody would bother transitioning to win sports and transition back. Do you know the hassle that that would entail?
@jhitchcock5503
@jhitchcock5503 Жыл бұрын
Why did this take 7 years? Sheesh!
@edjjit
@edjjit Жыл бұрын
they have been killing the game, holy sheesh
@benshaw576
@benshaw576 Жыл бұрын
Wokes
@_ArsNova
@_ArsNova Жыл бұрын
Leftists.
@reazsouman8932
@reazsouman8932 Жыл бұрын
My appreciation , i read this daily !
@mukulkhan327
@mukulkhan327 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much !😀
@LenaSeydoux
@LenaSeydoux Жыл бұрын
Finally. They need their own category in competitions
@STURM323
@STURM323 Жыл бұрын
They're seeking dominance and power, not equality. It would be pointless for them to have an own category because they can't rub their agenda in your face, as absolutely nobody would watch it. I agree, they should just have their own category and be free to compete there with other, just that they don't want that.
@hanselmansell7555
@hanselmansell7555 Жыл бұрын
​@Jonathan Nielsen so trans people shouldn't play sports? 🤔
@tidbit1877
@tidbit1877 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathannielsensask biology is not binary, please educate yourself; they do need their own category.
@richard7645
@richard7645 Жыл бұрын
They need to be in a different society than ours
@tidbit1877
@tidbit1877 Жыл бұрын
@@richard7645 Why? How does their existence effect you; it doesn't, you're just a hateful bigot, loser.
@deonpetrus
@deonpetrus Жыл бұрын
Its about time and should never be allowed.
@fenyoaeemckinney2144
@fenyoaeemckinney2144 Жыл бұрын
Just because you feel and “think” you are a woman DOES NOT make you a woman!! Just as feeling or “thinking” you are a dog doesn’t make you a dog!😩🤪
@Crazytaylor93
@Crazytaylor93 Жыл бұрын
Common sense has triumphed at last
@joshuataylor3550
@joshuataylor3550 Жыл бұрын
Calm down, right decision but please can we stop confusing the words 'woman' and 'female'.
@_ArsNova
@_ArsNova Жыл бұрын
​@@joshuataylor3550 They are synonymous! If you claim to be a "woman", but aren't a female, you are ill.
@Rod732
@Rod732 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuataylor3550 you calm down commenting in every single post ffssss
@Crazytaylor93
@Crazytaylor93 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuataylor3550 cry us a river see if anyone would care 😂😂😂😂
@reazsouman8932
@reazsouman8932 Жыл бұрын
My appreciation , i read this daily !
@boris8787
@boris8787 Жыл бұрын
The woke BBC are not happy because REALITY & HONESTY are back to win again!! 🥇🥇
@funniey
@funniey Жыл бұрын
The only question I have is, why didn't they do it sooner
@xoomren
@xoomren Жыл бұрын
because Thorough RESEARCH is a requirement before making an OFFICIAL decision.
@funniey
@funniey Жыл бұрын
@@xoomren fair point
@SimpleLifeAlways81
@SimpleLifeAlways81 Жыл бұрын
Because people were afraid to say no - that they could be sued, fired, etc ..
@crystal2484
@crystal2484 Жыл бұрын
why does it take so long for the obvious?
@mirishikibacchus6862
@mirishikibacchus6862 Жыл бұрын
Well thank God! It's about fricking time! Common sense is finally coming back!
@joshuataylor3550
@joshuataylor3550 Жыл бұрын
Calm down, right decision but please can we stop confusing the words 'woman' and 'female'.
@mirishikibacchus6862
@mirishikibacchus6862 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuataylor3550 I'm not the one that confused it, they did lol
@blagoevski336
@blagoevski336 Жыл бұрын
Yup
@_ArsNova
@_ArsNova Жыл бұрын
@@joshuataylor3550 They are synonymous! If you claim to be a "woman", but aren't a female, you are sick!!
@joedowning2428
@joedowning2428 Жыл бұрын
This is why trans people are absolutely dominating women's sports. Oh wait, they aren't
@Please_allow_me
@Please_allow_me Жыл бұрын
The fact that this even needs to be debated, explained, and pretty much spelt out highlights the state of the world we're living in. Fuck me we're doomed
@streetinscotland1225
@streetinscotland1225 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant news..
@CharlieLemoncomenta
@CharlieLemoncomenta Жыл бұрын
Finally common sense 😊😊😊😊
@aldilamuzdalifah940
@aldilamuzdalifah940 Жыл бұрын
Fr! Theres hope in humanity again
@WS-47ha
@WS-47ha Жыл бұрын
@@aldilamuzdalifah940 American politics already permanently destroyed my hope for Humanity.
@humate9980
@humate9980 Жыл бұрын
Can’t really believe it had to go the other way to begin with hopefully in time we continue to have a healthy understanding of the truth no matter whoever it might offend
@montihalla
@montihalla Жыл бұрын
I strongly support it. Women should compete against women not men pretending to be women .
@kaijuking5971
@kaijuking5971 Жыл бұрын
Oh look it's the woke brigade
@Cheryl_Lynn1
@Cheryl_Lynn1 Жыл бұрын
​@@kaijuking5971 oh look it's woke 😂
@kaijuking5971
@kaijuking5971 Жыл бұрын
@@Cheryl_Lynn1 it's the woke train Choo Choo🚂
@joshuataylor3550
@joshuataylor3550 Жыл бұрын
Calm down, right decision but please can we stop confusing the words 'woman' and 'female'.
@joshuataylor3550
@joshuataylor3550 Жыл бұрын
@Sims Ko He's pretending to have a bigger cock.
@linkofvev
@linkofvev Жыл бұрын
Whether you're pro trans rights or not, this is fair. XY have an unfair advantage over XX.
@rryyttee
@rryyttee Жыл бұрын
Symptoms of common sense.
@PrimeGabe
@PrimeGabe Жыл бұрын
This made my day even better, thanks!
@joshuataylor3550
@joshuataylor3550 Жыл бұрын
Calm down, right decision but please can we stop confusing the words 'woman' and 'female'.
@_ArsNova
@_ArsNova Жыл бұрын
@@joshuataylor3550 They are synonymous! If you claim to be a "woman", but aren't a female, you are sick!!
@STURM323
@STURM323 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuataylor3550 sounds like you're the one being confused. For the entire human history these two terms went together. You're not the ones to change that just because you believe for some reason you have the right to. You don't.
@EK-rw9sw
@EK-rw9sw Жыл бұрын
usually 'woman' refers to gender identity, and 'female' refers to a collection of biological traits. these aren't well-defined categories so there's always gonna be some people who don't fit perfectly
@GongGhuru
@GongGhuru Жыл бұрын
@joshuataylor3550 these mutant freaks need to go live in another world
@maryperrysmith5815
@maryperrysmith5815 Жыл бұрын
Best news I’ve heard in long time
@terrancechilds3049
@terrancechilds3049 Жыл бұрын
This shouldn't have taken so long for common sense to prevail
@JesusChrist-qc2xc
@JesusChrist-qc2xc Жыл бұрын
One thing I notice, like the WNBA the stands are not filled with women/trans supporters. The stands are empty.
@limpunsing2229
@limpunsing2229 Жыл бұрын
Utterly sensible
@christinevenner183
@christinevenner183 Жыл бұрын
About bloody time!
@muncangel5993
@muncangel5993 9 ай бұрын
pathetic that we even have to discuss this BS!
@baronsamedi5224
@baronsamedi5224 Жыл бұрын
Some sanity!
@bigdaveo397
@bigdaveo397 Жыл бұрын
Lord Coe has stated the reasons very clearly and simply. Let's hope the rest of the organisations can take a similar simple sensible approach
@cubearthx
@cubearthx Жыл бұрын
There are a lot of comments about 'common sense' The fact is; they didn't use common sense, they used science to determine their policy. Which is how issues like this should be determined.
@ns6.504
@ns6.504 Жыл бұрын
No common sense is better than science,covid taught us that
@cubearthx
@cubearthx Жыл бұрын
@@ns6.504 it's 'common sense' that had us in the pandemic for so long. Absolute failure of humanity. People are still dying from a virus we have a vaccine for.
@pogmothoin00001
@pogmothoin00001 Жыл бұрын
@@ns6.504 common sense should have told people that the politicians were manipulating scientific results to their own ends.
@WiggglezMr
@WiggglezMr Жыл бұрын
It's always been illegal for a male to dress up like a women to compete in women's sports. Why is this discussion changing now?
@megaflux7144
@megaflux7144 Жыл бұрын
you mean they banned MEN?
@afflulifestyle1784
@afflulifestyle1784 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@joshuataylor3550
@joshuataylor3550 Жыл бұрын
No, they banned males.
@undeadnerd7102
@undeadnerd7102 Жыл бұрын
​@@joshuataylor3550 bro stop. It's men.
@hankjones3527
@hankjones3527 Жыл бұрын
​@Joshua Taylor Men are males and males are men.
@megaflux7144
@megaflux7144 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuataylor3550 did you sit there in second grade (like 6 years ago) day dreaming that one day you would post profoundly stupid comments on the internet, or did you just end up this way by chance?
@XxTheAwokenOnexX
@XxTheAwokenOnexX Жыл бұрын
Good, and this should be upheld in all sporting competitions 👍
@c10venter88
@c10venter88 Жыл бұрын
Finally, birth certificate proof must be given as well
@HailAzathoth
@HailAzathoth Жыл бұрын
Everyone with a brain should applaud this
@_ArsNova
@_ArsNova Жыл бұрын
Sadly like half the human population lacks that. They want to teach that men are women, the sky is red, and that pigs can fly.
@dangerdan2592
@dangerdan2592 Жыл бұрын
Shoot, I think that even someone with half their brain working would understand this decision.
@reazsouman8932
@reazsouman8932 Жыл бұрын
My appreciation , i read this daily !
@LiberalismisDying
@LiberalismisDying Жыл бұрын
Liberals are angry over this.
@oceanrocks
@oceanrocks Жыл бұрын
After the trans issue is solved, the next problem that will be talked about is lack of equal pay which really is because most people don’t tune in to watch women’s sports
@leahl7352
@leahl7352 Жыл бұрын
Now do All High Schools and All Colleges
@youngblackking3255
@youngblackking3255 Жыл бұрын
This is a big step in the right direction.
@karenmarieh.j.3842
@karenmarieh.j.3842 Жыл бұрын
How many Transgender girls and women does this big step ban? Second question...how many cis/natal women did this ruling ban from competing starting at the end of the month?
@heezyforsheez
@heezyforsheez 7 ай бұрын
​@@karenmarieh.j.3842It's not "cis", just woman. Theres no such thing as a cis woman. Thats just what the trans predators have used to put us in our own category but we already got one. They should stay in their lane
@1984sayu
@1984sayu Жыл бұрын
This is nobody's fault. We are what we are. It's little to do with what we feel.
@PA-lf8sd
@PA-lf8sd Жыл бұрын
Nope, it's no-one's fault. But it is complicated.
@karenmarieh.j.3842
@karenmarieh.j.3842 Жыл бұрын
Sweet, a touch of Alfred Tennyson. That I see microscopic movement on the Transphobe side..should be interesting
@babym9524
@babym9524 Жыл бұрын
Just leave biological women out of it and leave us out of your validations. Don’t try to tell us who we are and superimpose yourselves as us. Be you and proud of it.
@Chez114
@Chez114 Жыл бұрын
We've learned a lot over the last half decade. Let this be a lesson to us all that not every new idea is a step forward. When the media pushes a broadscale agenda, be skeptical but recognise that skeptics can be sheep too. There are idiots on all sides, and there's nothing more dangerous than a confident idiot. Listen to the youth, learn from your elders and know that some day some of your "truths" will be outdated
@GJ-yr5jo
@GJ-yr5jo Жыл бұрын
Common sense and fairness prevails!!! ❤
@Floki-D.
@Floki-D. Жыл бұрын
when?
@Floki-D.
@Floki-D. Жыл бұрын
@Sensei I thought the idea behind sports were that they weren´t fair. That is why there is a first second and third place. If a cis woman was born inherently stronger than most other cis women does she not get to compete?
@jeffreykho1830
@jeffreykho1830 Жыл бұрын
​@@Floki-D. Keep on sleepin'😂😂
@abhinavanekapalli3639
@abhinavanekapalli3639 Жыл бұрын
​@@Floki-D. Cry bout it
@Jeffy-331
@Jeffy-331 Жыл бұрын
@@Floki-D. what the hell is a cis woman?
@longday8344
@longday8344 Жыл бұрын
This is good, people who fight against this have never played sports at a high level
@elizabethgrogan8553
@elizabethgrogan8553 Жыл бұрын
@Long Day I can't imagine warming up for a sprint final with a man warming up beside me. I would have just given up.
@karenmarieh.j.3842
@karenmarieh.j.3842 Жыл бұрын
According to the press conference...no Transgender women have competed at this level, so the ban doesn't really effect anyone and those who are on blockers are coming up.
@princessbc9791
@princessbc9791 Жыл бұрын
Nor do they have common sense.
@ASDFCH
@ASDFCH Жыл бұрын
Wonderful news. Sensibility has been restored.
@dandydoodigery9854
@dandydoodigery9854 Жыл бұрын
How about they make a transgender category? It can be part of the special Olympics.
@375GTB
@375GTB Жыл бұрын
Give them their own events, not for real women.
@_ArsNova
@_ArsNova Жыл бұрын
Amazing decision! DNA determines reality, not feelings!!
@CosmicVoid420
@CosmicVoid420 Жыл бұрын
ZOMg brO tHaT iS lIke sooOOOOooooOOo tRaNsPhoBic
@dwentlandt1022
@dwentlandt1022 Жыл бұрын
Except now they are telling biological women that have a natural elevated testosterone ( not their fault but their biology as you put it) are not allowed to participate unless they now take chemicals to reduce a naturally occurring hormone in their body. So now since even biological women are being affected it’s only fair that all women athletes have their testosterone reduced to the exact same level as any other woman competing. So sure let’s screw over all transgender athletes because of cry baby bigots but it has now affected biological women. Good job just because a few already losers can’t compete with anyone that seems to have any advantage over them. So what will should now see based on bigotry and simple fear monger if from babies, is no woman should compete that has a testosterone level over 2.5. Not a single one and all women need to be tested from now on. Show bigotry to one women show it to all. Let’s see how feminists, particularly those that desperately hate transgender women, feel about the necessity of attacking biological women for something they have no control over because it’s their biological female body doing it.
@dwentlandt1022
@dwentlandt1022 Жыл бұрын
Except now they are telling biological women that have a natural elevated testosterone ( not their fault but their biology as you put it) are not allowed to participate unless they now take chemicals to reduce a naturally occurring hormone in their body. So now since even biological women are being affected it’s only fair that all women athletes have their testosterone reduced to the exact same level as any other woman competing. So sure let’s screw over all transgender athletes because of cry baby bigots but it has now affected biological women. Good job just because a few already losers can’t compete with anyone that seems to have any advantage over them. So what will should now see based on bigotry and simple fear monger if from babies, is no woman should compete that has a testosterone level over 2.5. Not a single one and all women need to be tested from now on. Show bigotry to one women show it to all. Let’s see how feminists, particularly those that desperately hate transgender women, feel about the necessity of attacking biological women for something they have no control over because it’s their biological female body doing it.
@claudiaxander
@claudiaxander Жыл бұрын
Where do feelings come from...
@_ArsNova
@_ArsNova Жыл бұрын
@@CosmicVoid420 I know you're being sarcastic, but it's sad that such a basic, objective, comment is considered "controversial" and "offensive" today! What on Earth has happened to our society...
@paulct91
@paulct91 Жыл бұрын
Seems now they should simply add a 3rd division for those who wish to compete against anyone and everyone, since that is still not done except prominently at events similar to everybody at once events like the Boston Marathon.
@karenmarieh.j.3842
@karenmarieh.j.3842 Жыл бұрын
Since some states only have about 6 to 10 transgender girls...how are you suggesting creating a league?
@_ArsNova
@_ArsNova Жыл бұрын
Or they can stop vying for special treatment and can just compete in the division their DNA is aligned with.
@karenmarieh.j.3842
@karenmarieh.j.3842 Жыл бұрын
@@_ArsNova No, I can see you do not understand how HRT works. Also of you listen to the rules they just put up....there is still going to be transgender athletes. Those from states and countries that allow puberty blockers, their daughters will be allowed to compete at the intersection level. So for my generation...who are too old to compete anyway, it doesn't matter. This just means if you are a transgender girl from west Virginia you won't be allowed to compete but if your family is on the Maryland side....you will be able too. 😉
@hanselmansell7555
@hanselmansell7555 Жыл бұрын
​@@_ArsNova it's not quite that simple though because that would mean trans men who have had hormone treatment competing against women with a possible unfair advantage. Its all so dificult... 🤔
@NyanyiC
@NyanyiC Жыл бұрын
But doesn't the Boston marathon still recognize the fastest males and females though🤔
@CriticalTheoryIsNonsense
@CriticalTheoryIsNonsense Жыл бұрын
Reality prevails, a good decision but they also need to finish the job and have a blanket ban on all males competing in women's events, not just those who have gone through puberty before the 'treatments'.
@cassiehannah
@cassiehannah Жыл бұрын
Finally!
@monarchist1838
@monarchist1838 Жыл бұрын
The science wins for once in terms of gender!
@karenmarieh.j.3842
@karenmarieh.j.3842 Жыл бұрын
Medical science did win. Now many have access to puberty blockers, so according this ruling, they can compete. Yes, Science wins. :)
@reazsouman8932
@reazsouman8932 Жыл бұрын
My appreciation , i read this daily !
@joshuataylor3550
@joshuataylor3550 Жыл бұрын
Sex, not gender
@winstonsmasterplan
@winstonsmasterplan Жыл бұрын
I wonder what the knee jerk response will be to this news?
@iamjimfan
@iamjimfan Жыл бұрын
I can give affirmative and negative argument to this decision - but affirmative makes more sense.
@DaveZee823
@DaveZee823 Жыл бұрын
What is the negative?
@dontworry5981
@dontworry5981 Жыл бұрын
Some good news today. Finally some people with common sense
@Floki-D.
@Floki-D. Жыл бұрын
Where are they?
@jeffreykho1830
@jeffreykho1830 Жыл бұрын
​@@Floki-D. Certainly not in your head😂
@Floki-D.
@Floki-D. Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreykho1830 people with common sense? No, I usually don't have people in my head. I was always taught that acceptance is common sense
@kggg5469
@kggg5469 Жыл бұрын
World making a bit more sense again
@marietaylor5174
@marietaylor5174 Жыл бұрын
It's about time!!!!!
@yellow4563
@yellow4563 Жыл бұрын
when reality hits the crazies 🍿
@GeminiCoco
@GeminiCoco Жыл бұрын
Ty!!!! I strongly agree and support this decision
@krob2327
@krob2327 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy in Britain there’s journalists who seem very angry about this decision. Strange world
@reazsouman8932
@reazsouman8932 Жыл бұрын
My appreciation , i read this daily !
@jimthompson9370
@jimthompson9370 Жыл бұрын
I suspect other sports will now follow. They needed someone with the financial and legal backing to be able to refute the undoubted claims of T-phobia that will be brought against them.
@SolusWhite
@SolusWhite Жыл бұрын
Finally, some sense... seriously though, the fact that we even reached this point is pathetic... men are men, women are women... there is nothing you can do to change that.
@karenmarieh.j.3842
@karenmarieh.j.3842 Жыл бұрын
...but if you start blockers before puberty, you can compete.
@SolusWhite
@SolusWhite Жыл бұрын
@@karenmarieh.j.3842 Puberty blockers or not, they're still male... So I still disagree with them competing.
@karenmarieh.j.3842
@karenmarieh.j.3842 Жыл бұрын
@@SolusWhite ..and that is okay. That is simple fear and hatred. Can't argue medical science or the facts of the sports record books, so you base your argument on a myth of Transgender Female dominance in sports.
@pearl-pf6xz
@pearl-pf6xz Жыл бұрын
The problem is the tag 'womans', make the tag 'female' and it would solve this rubbish overnight. Legally they can identify as a woman but not female as a simple 'xy/xx test will reveal all.
@aprilrae6551
@aprilrae6551 Жыл бұрын
Most Male-bodied people cannot get t-levels below 5nmol/L. They can't get to the 2.5 level, even with t-blockers. The t-levels are set for intersex women. They can get to normal Female levels on t-blockers.
@johnfish1194
@johnfish1194 Жыл бұрын
FINALLY. Fairness in sports again. Not allowing males to dominate women, which is totally unfair, in sports. Great job, and way to step up. why the hell did it take so long?
@yawe2born101
@yawe2born101 Жыл бұрын
This was overdue as most Biological women had to face it off with "Women" in Mind but Males in the physical body/chemical formation .
@cloudbloom
@cloudbloom Жыл бұрын
It's about time
@brasco2315
@brasco2315 Жыл бұрын
I always heard transwomen compete in women's sport, but i never heard transman compete in man's sport
@ianmorrison8722
@ianmorrison8722 Жыл бұрын
They would be loser's 😢 .
@percivaloropesa5635
@percivaloropesa5635 Жыл бұрын
Let the LGBTQ community have their own Sport competition , Beauty Pageant , etc..
@runplatypus
@runplatypus Жыл бұрын
I want to see a separate TRANS V TRANS category. Or a trans woman can always compete with real men. That would be awesome.
@karenmarieh.j.3842
@karenmarieh.j.3842 Жыл бұрын
Or the parents of transgender daughters will allow their girls to take blockers and meet the requirements of this ruling.
@Jeffy-331
@Jeffy-331 Жыл бұрын
There’s no difference, trans women are men so competing against men is normal I guess
@tdmprofit3708
@tdmprofit3708 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Finally got the ball over the line! It should have been clear cut! They came up with a fair package deal. Let the games begin!
@seanmalcolm9456
@seanmalcolm9456 Жыл бұрын
If they are insisting transgender a different gender then make there own sports specifically for them😂😂😂
@LiftingStress
@LiftingStress 8 ай бұрын
WoW! The WA just figured out that bio men and women are different. We're getting back on track as a species!
@jamesgornall5731
@jamesgornall5731 Жыл бұрын
Stunning and Brave!!!!!!!!!!
@joshuataylor3550
@joshuataylor3550 Жыл бұрын
Calm down, right decision but please can we stop confusing the words 'woman' and 'female'.
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuataylor3550 . Keep copying and pasting.
@AmazinglyAwkward
@AmazinglyAwkward Жыл бұрын
@@MrSupernova111 doesn't make what Joshua said wrong
@stevenicol1
@stevenicol1 Жыл бұрын
@@AmazinglyAwkward yes it does.
@AmazinglyAwkward
@AmazinglyAwkward Жыл бұрын
@@stevenicol1 female is biological, woman is gender. There is a difference. Biology is something someone cannot change, it's our DNA and how we are born. Gender is how we present ourselves to society and if someone is willing it can change. Gender and biological sex are not synonymous. Hope that clears things up.
@SilverSin
@SilverSin Жыл бұрын
This is a glorious day.
@violentnewworld
@violentnewworld Жыл бұрын
Let them have their own competition.. Everyone is happy
@gus8493
@gus8493 Жыл бұрын
Not such a great loss.... Nobody needs drama in sports...
@dave3130
@dave3130 Жыл бұрын
Finally the penny dropped and they saw sense 🙄
@jamesmcfarlane4142
@jamesmcfarlane4142 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Greghouse
@Greghouse Жыл бұрын
Go sports! This is great news!
@greatunwashed1856
@greatunwashed1856 Жыл бұрын
Never hear of women to man wanting to compete in mens sport, ooh I wonder why?
@jordanschlanskyofficial
@jordanschlanskyofficial Жыл бұрын
Finally! Someone got up frm their sleep
@nowthatscinema7410
@nowthatscinema7410 Жыл бұрын
Common sense, you rarely see that these days.
@fletch9702
@fletch9702 Жыл бұрын
"Common sense, you rarely see that these days." Why use the word 'common' then?
@noellewest4347
@noellewest4347 Жыл бұрын
Why is this even a conversation?
@harunotodoroki
@harunotodoroki Жыл бұрын
Good. As important please ban these opportunists from female rest rooms/toilets too.
@bluephoenix9982
@bluephoenix9982 Жыл бұрын
Finally! What took them so long to come to their senses. Should have been done sooner!!
@hankjones3527
@hankjones3527 Жыл бұрын
Wow just 7 years to work out something so simple.
@deshaun9473
@deshaun9473 Жыл бұрын
As a feminist, I think this is the right thing to do. Trans or not, you still have the muscles of a man. It's unfair to allow them to compete in women's sports.
@Vega2099x
@Vega2099x Жыл бұрын
Whatever gives fair competition, the science has to be understood before decisions made
@Floki-D.
@Floki-D. Жыл бұрын
What science?
@aleenaprasannan2146
@aleenaprasannan2146 Жыл бұрын
Yes, science has to be understood before allowing transitioned athletes compete in categories that they transitioned to. People shouldn't be just allowed in any category they wish by default and then let whatever happen before science validates or invalidates it.
@Floki-D.
@Floki-D. Жыл бұрын
Also, I thought the idea behind sports is to show who is the best.
@bunnyban5365
@bunnyban5365 Жыл бұрын
Science lololololol you dorks men are men and women are women you western dorks
@universalnettv677
@universalnettv677 Жыл бұрын
The science of XX and XY
@mla7071
@mla7071 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic news! Maybe they can now set up a league/division where people suffering with severe mental issues can compete
@CuttinBlade
@CuttinBlade Жыл бұрын
It makes sense for now
@dhktv03
@dhktv03 Жыл бұрын
Wow! 😮
@JirenTheGrayOfUniverse11
@JirenTheGrayOfUniverse11 Жыл бұрын
For those who still don't get it, just imagine if Usain Bolt, Messi, Ronaldo, Mayweather & LeBron all of them decided to be a transgender-woman and they wanted to compete on their individual sport but they are competing against women. Isn't it unfair for those real woman, right? Permanent ban is a must!
@karenmarieh.j.3842
@karenmarieh.j.3842 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm..... so all of them on HRT or not on HRT? Have you actually spoken to anyone who is Transgender and on HRT? I think this is why they did not outright ban Transgender athletes, because medically, all of those guess....with the right dosage, would drop so fast. Ever wonder why there have been transgender females competing since before the 1970s ... and they have never done all to well. Let us also be serious, if prior to HRT you put me on the court with James.....I would get killed. If you put me up against an WNBA players...the slaughter would be the same.
@pandapower5902
@pandapower5902 Жыл бұрын
@@karenmarieh.j.3842 scientifically this just doesnt appear to be true though. Trans women still maintain certain advantages on average even after years on HRT.
@karenmarieh.j.3842
@karenmarieh.j.3842 Жыл бұрын
@@pandapower5902 First, if you are referencing the Braizl study, that is questionable due to the sample of Transgender folks they used. There are studies that declare that managed that they drop the advanges to possibly below female levels. That is why after decades of Trans Women in sports, you have never seen one totally dominate. Even in Nationals... Lia won one race race by a second, then came in 5 in another and finished dead last. And in her lone win she was 8 seconds off the pace of the cis record holder. So, I am doubting your claim of advantages ... when the actual sports record books, do not show any advantage. That is why the record books might be the thorn in the myth. The record books... have no opinion...just who won and who lost.
@pandapower5902
@pandapower5902 Жыл бұрын
@@karenmarieh.j.3842 there are other studies, i didnt even know of that one. They never lose the cardio or lung advantages or th bone structure advantages. Of course they are weaker than cis men but thats all. There are lots of other examples of trans women winning in sports, its not just Lia.
@ashdav9980
@ashdav9980 Жыл бұрын
@@karenmarieh.j.3842 Oh please.....Lia likely threw the race, didn't bother trying to win. He knew he could only get away with but so much before biological women started noticing. Besides, he was too busy slinging his dong out in the shower room and gleeful when bio women who complained where told to deal with it. Found the "Karen" of the rainbow group...........
@luckyluke1503
@luckyluke1503 Жыл бұрын
As a Man I have to say it’s amazing that it took years for these people to realize Biological men should not be allowed to compete with women in sports. What women do in sports is amazing and they work so hard for it but suddenly a Guy decides to become a woman and than destroy women’s sport like Lia Thomas. Protect Women’s sports. It is beyond unfair if we allow Biological men to enter women’s sports.
@sandibuni
@sandibuni Жыл бұрын
As a woman it’s baffling we still have to fight to keep our space safe and fair. Happy Women’s month !!
@deshaun9473
@deshaun9473 Жыл бұрын
I tell you this though. Women are no longer putting up with the b.s. !
@MongooseJeffOfficial
@MongooseJeffOfficial Жыл бұрын
Finally some common sense
@sj3530
@sj3530 Жыл бұрын
Thank God, finally some common sense.
@Muhammedthemaverick
@Muhammedthemaverick Жыл бұрын
Finally some common sense ❤!
@chillydowg2341
@chillydowg2341 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone gets it right 😮😊
@novaknight8360
@novaknight8360 Жыл бұрын
Remember that South Park ep about strong woman?
@ayeright1131
@ayeright1131 Жыл бұрын
Yup 🤣😂🤣
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