Better than the Bernabeu? How a new Man Utd stadium could take shape | BBC Sport

[@THE_ECONNORGIST]

“We don’t want a soulless bowl” _Proceeds to show design plans for a soulless bowl_

[@oldershikari828]

I'm already getting irritated about it.. It'll have no defining characteristics, just like everyone else's ground..

[@garymurphy3870]

Not my lfc ground hahahahaha

[@user-gl8qu7qf2q]

Your Cow shed gary

[@MrBaronCabron]

​@@oldershikari828Old Trafford didn't have any soul just by being built. Old Trafford is what it is because of what happened inside it. Can guarantee if Spurs won a load of trophies in their new stadium it'd be seen as something entirely different as it is now.

[@aintnuttinnice_7590]

common sense should tell you that those are not official blueprints but merely graphics made for this short video, would you mind taking me through the mindset that makes you guys think its official?

[@MrUmxhosa]

This feels like it was produced by a PR firm hired by United/Ineos.

[@MsKwenda]

At least it's break from Rashord news 😅

[@DonR-zb2cm]

Lool

[@DonR-zb2cm]

One thing about Ratty he knows how to delude fans proper marketing genius loool

[@uinki-t2y]

Ineos are the same as the Glazzers and will put in nothing , more debt

[@upon-fe2720]

100 percent is.

[@captainexistence]

I'm an Arsenal supporter, but my first ever live match was at Old Trafford in November 1996, United won the match 1-0. What amazed me though was the stadium, the new upper tier over the Sir Alex stand was only built and no upper stands or corners yet at either end. Although it was only about 55,000 at the time, Old Trafford was the envy of England. Those images I see now of waterfalls in the stands and leaks in the roof, the owners should be ashamed. The supporters deserve better than that.

[@Taylor___]

Nice comment

[@Ali_Arma]

The atmosphere was fantastic then too especially Champions League nights

[@NN-fw9il]

It's further been aggravated by performances on the pitch.Don't know what prospect INEOS have seen in getting people to pay increased ticket prices to watch the worst United side in decades in a leaky stadium.

[@swanner95]

Funny, I was too young to say for sure, but I always got the feeling Highbury was the only stadium that gave an atmosphere to rival that at Anfield

[@stretfordender11]

But the Emirates is a terrible rounded bowl.

[@ritchierich2793]

The most random video dropped, its like a sponsor Ad by INEOS..

[@binsarm9026]

it's so disgusting they don't even have an anchor to "bring the report" - the Beeb quality has LONG since died.

[@jamlemon]

The designer of So-Fi just happens to be stood outside OT. 🤔

[@Hardijackk9]

His been brought in already to help refurbish or re build old Trafford

[@ShayHezarkhani]

also proceeds to call the club "ManU" as if to say he knows nothing about football all at the same time.

[@rashidkhalid3970]

Sofa

[@bobbowie9350]

Sofi is soul less

[@randomdaveUK]

Gonna be a US style stadium...

[@Amber-nw1sn]

United fans be careful, having the biggest stadium in the world sounds good and suits the ego of us United fans. But it also means once it is complete, the owners / investors will generate money constantly from this regardless if we win, lose or draw. Some could argue this is good as it means guaranteed income for the club but based on how owners of this club have acted with club funds before, it’s more likely the money will be used to build up their own wealth. Too much focus on the outside stuff rather than the actual stadium is a sign that they want this to be a lucrative real estate project with malls and housing rather than just an amazing stadium.

[@imo098765]

While that is true, that is also wrong The money the club has spent has been under poor footballing leadership, 1.6bil spent the past 13 seasons but no major trophies to show for it.

[@lukealex6428]

Bigger stadium means more revenue which is vital for PSR and being able to buy and attract the best players. The owners should be able to generate money for themselves I.e Ratcliffe (not the Glazers who have bled the club dry). He isn't going to invest 1.5 billion if he doesn't see it as commercially viable and he should be allowed to expect a return for money invested. The only people who invest and probably aren't too concerned about a return are the Saudis, who with unlimited funds are more concerned about sports washing and gaining power and popularity in the UK, where the PL is the most popular and global league in sport

[@Amber-nw1sn]

@@lukealex6428 yes of course he is to expect a return if he plans to invest but it’s about why, only time will tell if ratcliffe and INEOS main priority is restoring Manchester United vs wealth creation via Man Utd the brand/real estate project

[@Amber-nw1sn]

@@imo098765 true money has been spent but we know it’s about how the club is ran as a whole, football structure and all. As long as the majority of proceeds from all this extra shit goes back to club but towards the right stuff the football structure facilities directors then man united should never be in this position (2013- now) again.

[@The1Mustache3]

1.5 billion was buy-in not investment... you dense? ​@@lukealex6428

[@HappyCodingZX]

The first thing someone needs to tell that American guy is if he wants the fans on side, he should never call the club 'Man U'.

[@Sepia1989]

I bet my house that you're not from the UK. "Man U" as an insult is a made up myth made by foreign fans.

[@Top_Zinjaa]

It is Man U bro i live in England 😂

[@Nametaken144]

@@Top_Zinjaait’s not Man U to United fans and I live in England.

[@IMMERSIVEVOICE]

As soon as he said that I came down to the comments to write that 😆

[@leonboinczak3346]

@@Nametaken144 its what ever you wanna call em!

[@f_greg]

Call me old school, but traditional stadiums have far more character than modern grounds. There’s something magical about stepping into a historic stadium, surrounded by the stories and memories embedded in its walls. You don’t just see it, you smell the tradition, unlike the plastic vibe of today’s cookie-cutter designs. Old Trafford, for example, has a unique structure and aura that simply can’t be replicated. Sure, technology and modernization have their place, but at what cost? Destroying iconic grounds to build shiny new ones often feels like just another scheme to squeeze more money out of fans, just to pay off the investment and watch millionaire kids run around the pitch. The football circus has spiraled out of control, and in the relentless race for profit, we’re losing the soul of the game. But let’s be honest, that’s nothing new. So go ahead, build it, slap a £100 price tag on each match. The ones who will truly suffer are the working-class fans who’ve been there every game, not the plastics who can easily afford it. But hey, who cares about tradition and local fans when money is doing all the talking?

[@DonR-zb2cm]

Facts I Love old Trafford still has that magical feeling to it. Just needs some small upgrades but a complete reconstruction is not needed. Ratcliff is a dictator it’s his way or the high way. Already testing the waters with ticket prices going up. And I fully agree once the new stadium is built he will raise the tickets even higher to something like £100. If locals refuse to go it doesn’t matter because tourists will always come for the experience. Fans should be careful what they wish for.

[@Michael_Vargas]

100% Just renovate the stadium.

[@youngmurphy7556]

Agreed. I still love those Archibald Leitch stadiums, e.g. Craven Cottage and Ibrox.

[@kwl189]

Agreed. I’m probably considered a young fan but I view the trade off between renovating OT and building a new stadium the same as you. The only concerns I would have is if the foundations at OT can be renovated to last the test of time which is the major concern over renovation I think.

[@youngmurphy7556]

@kwl189 It's being developed by Yanks. They don't build stadiums to last so the new one will last no longer than the once state of the art Pontiac Silverdome or Giants Stadium. It's a scam to fleece fans of more money. Typical of the Glazers and their hedge fund creditors. Ineos are no different and only have 25% voting rights anyway. The Bernabeu is older than OT and its renovation has given it a decade or more of life.

[@jeremydillon1000]

The Bernabeu is phenomenal .. United deserve a ground worthy of our history...

[@JoeHardy-wy8zr]

well you cough up for it then us tax payers are not.

[@ppate8]

@@JoeHardy-wy8zrExactly why should people in the south fund that shithole

[@davek9047]

The American stadium designer filmed outside Old Trafford wasn't there because the BBC flew him out for a 7 minute website piece, was he? The decision to build a new stadium has been made, and he's clearly involved.

[@slc801]

That's good news 👏

[@AdamSabir1]

Americans come to football ownership not to win but to introduce their monetisation model to European football.

[@barryk00da]

Being totally honest, the main pull of a new stadium is the potential capacity increasing my chances of getting matchday tickets. Apart from that I would rather a renovation of Old Trafford. The chances of the new stadium being a flop and taking the soul out of the match seems pretty high, judging by recent examples.

[@JeatBunkie]

Same here mate, do up OT and keep the identity of the club. (Also don’t mess around with Chester road because I live round the corner and it would fuck me off to no end if they close that for a year)

[@LarryFeinburg]

One of the things I love most about going to old Trafford on match days is how the experience has felt pretty much the same my entire life, I dont want the area around old Trafford to become a soulless corporate collection of restaurants, fancy bars, and various other tat designed to take more money from match goers pockets. If they want to improve the experience of match attending supporters, start on the pitch!

[@Delboy591]

They're all soulless bowls.

[@MrDanielcool13]

That's cause you're looking at it from a bird's eye view. Try actually going inside one of these stadiums.

[@Delboy591]

@MrDanielcool13 I have. I prefer the old stadiums with atmosphere.

[@catgladwell5684]

@@Delboy591 I hate the bowl stadiums. Old Trafford is an icon, for all its old age, and we need the new stadium to have the same aura.

[@upon-fe2720]

​@@Delboy591agreed, history is so much more important.

[@davidpaterson1435]

History maybe important but you have to keep up with the times or the club will be left behind. Especially in the world of financial stability. Seventy years ago the Blackpools and Prestons of the league were the top dogs,they couldn't keep up with times and look how far behind they are now. Lightyears from the big clubs.​@@upon-fe2720

[@GIBBO4182]

They definitely need a better name than “New Old Trafford” 😂

[@blessingkolawole9272]

New Trafford 😂

[@SoulCrusher670]

@@blessingkolawole9272 Old trafford is also a place not just the name of the stadium

[@KHHVKimchicel]

Paradox Trafford

[@DMF.19]

new trashFord❗😂😂😂

[@bepis888]

Stadium McStadiumface

[@SirJamesReef]

SoFi isnt the best stadium in America, the most iconic is Lambeau Field. The Packers never gave up on their old stadium and keep renovating to keep it amazing. Dont abondoned old Trafford

[@bareknuckles2u]

Good point.

[@killbot86]

I’m a Liverpool fan and despite our rivalry with United, I have always admired Old Trafford and the history that is built into the stadium….I would hope that they renovate Old Trafford rather than knock it down to replace either with another generic bowl…..

[@genghiskhanjunior9581]

​@Trump1-r8l I agree Mr President

[@apa5749]

sadly it already happened to Everton. it's the oldest purpose-built football stadium in England, possibly in the world but they're planning to demolish it instead of turning it into something like what Arsenal did to Highbury or what Fulham does with their main stand (their main stand is a listed building that they can't expand or alternate. it still got wooden seats)

[@lanla6838z]

A "soulless" bowl, that's funny. Sounds like all the speakers want a stadium with mall shopping and arcade. A "soulless" bowl can be done correctly like Soccer City and Wembley and they are architecturally pleasing, not retail. So-Fi, Bernabeu and Tottenham are just glorified malls. A commercial venue like that is distracting as fans are constantly away from their seats. Its probably better to separate the mall from the bowl, like Atihad is doing with the construction of the hotel

[@djturbine7565]

Wembley? Literally the definition of a soulless bowl if you ask me. Sure it has an arch which is visually interesting but that’s it.

[@youngmurphy7556]

Soccer City isn't architecturally pleasing. It's all corrugated sheet metal the colour of an overcast sky daubed with unattractive pale blue, plopped down in a big car park.

[@prappsy]

@@djturbine7565 Yeah it doesn't get much more soulless than Wembley. Those 2000s stadiums are being left behind now and are looking dated already.

[@lanla6838z]

@@prappsy I would argue that a bowl is better suited to a football crowd. If united want to build a 100k seater, a bowl is the most practical way to do it. If you go the So-Fi way, you end up with the inside looking like a high-rise building. Too many multi levels of smaller tiers creating a balcony like mall food court atmosphere. The 2000's have the biggest tier being the one at pitch level. That's where you want ordinary people. The only time a bowl feels disconnected (soulless) is an instance where an above tier roof over another tier like at Cam Nou.

[@ozamrani22]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the company chosen to redevelop and build the new stadium is Foster + Partners, owned by Norman Foster, who's also a Mancunian.

[@binsarm9026]

doesn't matter - as if being Mancunian excludes one from being a profit-driven sellout

[@gogetred1359]

Jay Motty moving in salubrious circles 😉 love that noggin

[@youngmurphy7556]

He knows a new stadium is gonna be crap but he just couldn't say no to the payola offered by the PR firm making this dumb clip.

[@joshyboy333]

Let's just hope they don't price out the working class match going fans who are the heartbeat of the club.

[@DonR-zb2cm]

It’s already started

[@joshyboy333]

@DonR-zb2cm I know mate, sadly I have little faith it won't continue in the future. I'd love to be proven wrong.

[@kwl189]

They will. People are struggling as it is at £66 price increase. It’s going to be mental when INEOS, SJR and the Glazers expect us to pay £100+ for a seat to claim back their investment into the new stadium and regeneration of the surrounding area with new property (which they’ll conveniently have their own pick of to bolster their wealth).

[@billywhizz5021]

£66 for a child ticket, tells you they already have.

[@joshyboy333]

@billywhizz5021 aye, that's largely why I said it. We're being treated like a commodity at present. However, if we vote with our feet and make enough noise, by the time the new stadium is built, that may have changed. However, as I said, I have little faith in that being the case. Sadly, the club are more interested in tourists who will spend x amount in the club shop than the loyal fans who are being priced out of attending matches.

[@JoeHardy-wy8zr]

So the BBC are doing a documentary/publicity/advertising campaign for a new stadium free of charge for the richest club in England but want the public to pay for it!!!!! on behalf of Man United at the license fee payers expense??

[@nicknewman7848]

Yeah, they send commentators and media people to all the grounds every week of the season too giving all these clubs free publicity. There's this other thing called 'match of the day' which clearly promotes the game of football and all the clubs at the licence fee payers expense! Fun facts... 1) United are not the richest club in England because they are in debt of about £850 million. 2) The taxpayer will not pay for any club infrastructure at all but it may (along with investors) pay partially for development of the surrounding area which creates jobs, housing and boosts the economy and makes far more money in the long run than it costs.

[@genghiskhanjunior9581]

Don't be ridiculous, it's news worthy, the consultation process has just finished. People are interested especially locals and Manchester United fans worldwide. Ratcliffe doesn't expect taxpayers to foot the bill but probably wants some of the surrounding infrastructure costs for the roads and transport links etc to be covered by the council as it's a joint venture that will benefit the City economically. It's more than just building a stadium it's the regeneration of a huge area that benefits the City and taxpayers long term. Spurs had similar money from the council towards surrounding infrastructure.

[@JoeHardy-wy8zr]

@@genghiskhanjunior9581 How is what might happen NEWS?? This is a BBC documentary not a news item what is ridiculous is this supposedly impartial BBC obsession with one club? When did they become United's main media outlet? Are United paying the? or is this a freebie at the license payers expense?

[@liamphillips9742]

Old Trafford was almost the English national teams home away from home while new Wembley was being built. Obviously, they played other stadiums, but the champions league final was held at Old Trafford now it won't even be apart of the Euros it's criminal that it a hasn't been looked after

[@RhymeRichard]

"It's important that we retain Old Trafford's heritage, like the tunnel in the corner." The tunnel has been in the corner since... 1993.

[@DapumaAZ]

I went to a match at Fiorentina this year and it made Old Trafford seem brand new. Seats were damaged missing numbers, some US high schools probably have nicer facilities, and that was a vip seat. Was in the VIP area near the directors box, the Italian’s still are the best at yelling at the director after the match if they are unhappy. (Vs Venezia)

[@JMDigitalDesigner]

Spurs have a shiny new stadium, they still win nothing, if anything you could argue that at times, the stadium is more prolific than the club itself. There would be nothing more embarrassing to build a new stadium and continue to perform the way Man United have been for the past however many years. Spend money on the team first and improve results, then start thinking about a new home.

[@jasongb5666]

I am a Celtic supporter and travelled to my other team. Spurs.And they have the greatest sports stadium 🏟 in the world 🌎 .

[@BilboFaggins]

It’ll never be better than the bernabeu

[@mattyaztec]

As long as Ratcliffe pays for it out of his own pocket he will definitely try and get tax payers pay for it also doesn’t even pay his own tax in the uk

[@cribb6376]

Citys ground is owned by the council

[@DonR-zb2cm]

Ratcliff does not care about the fans it’s all business to time

[@Abdi-libaax]

Why not ask for money when the high-speed train from London to Manchester HS2 project was cancelled the cost was 80 billion The government needs to invest in the northwest as well not just the south. But bitter rival fans will always say “You pay it yourself” 😂

[@uinki-t2y]

he will put nothing in to manu same as glazzer borrowed to buy

[@kw8263]

If the local government isn't willing to contribute anything towards the project, then they shouldn't gain anything from the economic benefits the new stadium will inevitably generate

[@ManUtdTheReligion]

When you only talk about building a new stadium and don’t consider the option of upgrading Old Trafford then this is simply a promotional video for the PR company pushing for a new build. Ask fans what they think about knocking down Old Trafford and replacing it with an urban development and building the new stadium in the car park and you will get a different picture.

[@leod-sigefast]

The majority do want a new build to be honest. The ticking survey on Red Cafe shows that now. I think the footage of the -leaking- flooding roof was the final straw for many. Whenever I have been it always seems old fashioned. We don't even have a TV screen! The stands are hodge-podge the seating area is terrible with restrictive leg-room and the South Stand is in desperate need of upgrade, prohibited by the railway. So yes, look to the future. Make a new stadium fit for the next 100 years!

[@Moh4mm4dAmin]

Most of the fans want the new stadium.

[@nicknewman7848]

They did ask them.. most said rebuild not refurbish

[@edserendipity16]

I refuse to believe that, they must have fixed the results to suit their preference of a new build. Surely the actual fans would prefer a redevelopment ​@@nicknewman7848

[@genghiskhanjunior9581]

I grew up on the Stretford End, ideally I'd like to see it renovated but it's not feasible for various reasons. Gotta move with the times. Old Trafford has history and a special feeling but the actual stadium is like triggers old broom, it's changed many times over the last 30 or 40 years and it's not exactly "original" When the old Stretford end was demolished and rebuilt into a seated stand it lost a certain bit of magic imo but we have to move with the times.

[@dm.red7887]

I'm glad I'd visited Old Trafford last winter. As we were walking towards it from the tram station, I was saddened to see the mildewed beams from afar. It was almost as if the stadium was symbolising the current dismal situation of the club itself. As a foreign supporter, I can't possibly fathom the native supporters' emotional attachment to the club and the stadium but Old Trafford is iconic worldwide. While personally, I prefer to keep the original architecture and design intact, a revamped Old Trafford is much welcomed, with being faithful to the current design.

[@jejmoss11]

The whole fan experience issue with the newer stadiums in the world is mainly about making as much money as possible. Not by fans going every week but by tourist fans going once a year and spending tonnes.

[@iangroom1819]

This is the reason for Ineos buy in. The large amount of land owned by the club. Couple thousand flats/appartments, fitness clubs, shopping centres, theatre, cinema.

[@AdamSabir1]

It’s all well and fine for ownership to do this stuff but for gods sake, give the fans some results!!

[@estherkojusola3488]

Not Spurs and Arsenal, that's not our level 😂

[@braders96]

She's right! Their level is now Everton and Bournemouth

[@ZhangMaza]

Santiago Bernabeu is the benchmark for all stadium now

[@MARTINCANTONA87]

Agree with some comments on here about having traditional stadiums of a modern type. The thought of walking up the same steps and sitting in a ground generations of your family have done cannot be replaced

[@onefortheroad1]

Go on Jay lad

[@Wemdave]

1977 Man Utd v Arsenal 11yr old boy walked up the concrete steps of the Stretford end got to the top the sun shining on the pitch took my breath away sight i will take to my death.

[@EoinGilligan]

Leave old Trafford alone… she’s beautiful the way she is. Steeped in history

[@user-kk4zw5jo4t]

And rain

[@genghiskhanjunior9581]

It's like a beautiful lady but everything has gone South and no amount of cosmetic surgery is going to change it unfortunately.

[@genghiskhanjunior9581]

​@Trump1-r8l Time for a new chick 😂

[@debagza6615]

Old trafford is united iconic stadium..hope if they build the New one, they not replace Old trafford but build somewhere near that location, so the fans from other country that visit manchester still can have the experienced to see the Old trafford & the history that came along with it

[@Daz-0161]

A ferry along the ship canal starting at partington & direct to old Trafford with multiple stops would be perfect, it would help with congestion & would make great use of the canal

[@gideoncoonor819]

Fan reactions are mixed. Some supporters are excited about the prospect of a state-of-the-art facility that could enhance matchday experiences and generate additional revenue. Others express concerns about losing the historic atmosphere of Old Trafford, fearing that a new stadium might lack the unique character that has defined the club for over a century As of now, the club is in the planning stages, with project submissions expected by the end of 2024 and potential construction commencing in early 2025. The entire project could take up to six years to complete, aiming for a 2030 opening 🎉🎉

[@JamesHussain82]

Nice copy and paste.

[@segunkolawole4046]

Actually 2035….

[@HarryKay_]

not a United fan; but having visited Spurs', West Ham's, City's, and Wembley stadium - these are very borderline soulless bowls. the effort it will take to remain integral to United's values, but with a modern twist, is an enormous challenge.

[@mist5992]

“Spurs and Arsenal, that’s not our level,” Currently your levels Brentford and Luton… not to mention both are above you in the league 😭😭😭

[@BrahimElfadmi]

😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂

[@hearmenow909]

Historically speaking. Let's not forget, they're still one of the most successful clubs in the history of football, and will eventually get back to winning ways, it all takes time.

[@Morgy_147]

Concerning when people contributing here are not aware that the players tunnel wasn't originally in the corner of Old Trafford but had to be moved there for safety reasons from its original position between the dugouts.

[@24sumo]

Are you serious? What a ridiculous comment. It was 30 years ago they moved the tunnel. It’s completely irrelevant. Unless you went to let everyone know you’re a “top red”

[@Morgy_147]

@ well the Munich disaster was 66 years ago so I guess that’s irrelevant too 🙄 The guy on the video was talking about retaining historic elements of OT “like the tunnel in the corner” - so of course it’s relevant, come on now….

[@andy-wn1hq]

Thats the people who think football only started with the premier league.

[@24sumo]

@@Morgy_147 you're comparing moving a tunnel, to the Munich air disaster? You can't be serious. No, moving the tunnel is not the same thing as one go the biggest tragedies in world football. Shocking, I know.

[@24sumo]

@@andy-wn1hq Its the people who actually go to games and are real fans. Not the plastics sitting at home saying what about the tunnel that moved.

[@elianavera2927]

Even though I think it will be the best to build a new stadium it will be sad to see old Trafford go, I mean they could use that as training ground or the the under 21 or something I hope they can use old Trafford for something because the history the memories

[@andrewleese89]

considering the amount of money they're spending on Carrington, I doubt that.

[@axro]

I remember Old Trafford, Theatre of Dreams, being described as the best football stadium in Europe just twenty years ago. Now it's apparently completely outdated and could be teared down in a few years' time. The half-life time of football stadiums has become surprisingly short.

[@karimazizkembo5312]

Leave Old Trafford alone. It's part of our history.

[@jetmax1]

ineos were rejected by barca, chelsea and im sure a few other clubs yet we sold to them... qataris would have been much better, but here we are

[@AdamSabir1]

People love to muddy the Arab ownership but they actually care and have passion for the sport. Americans only have passion for $$$$

[@genghiskhanjunior9581]

Fairytale state backed bids 😂 They never came up with proof of funds and where the actual money was coming from. Jassim was a front man, look at the mess City are in 😂

[@KadiTravels-o5v]

United deserves in everything, they are level above everyone in the prem and deserve the best stadium in the world

[@JonathanB6023]

The Sofi architect should be dismissed immediately for calling the club 'Man U'. And who wants a gigantic distracting plasma screen over the pitch? This video feels like an Ineos sponsored advert for the new monstrosity they're about to build.

[@londoncabby1719]

I am torn, I would love them to do somthing with the current stadium but understand the possible need for a new building. It is all well and good saying that the US has amazing stadia but who paid for the new construction? It was public finance in many cases. There is not a chance local government or indeed national government hould put their hand in their pocket. (and I don't think they should either btw). A new stadium is not going to be cheap ans SJR will be charging top dollar as we have seen with recent price rises. Glad I don't have to make the decision.

[@aramehyeghikian4705]

This is a shame tbh changing your historical home for some fancy soulless bullshit isn’t the way to go. I’m all about an update but a new stadium never. Real, Barca, Bayern, Milan to name a few have never moved homes they’ve always just updated.

[@Silver_16]

If we are talking about Bayern Munich, they moved into the Allianz Arena back in 2005, before that they played at the Olypiastadion from 1972-2005. There was many talks about renovations for the olympiastadion, however it didn't go through and with the pressure of having up to date stadiums for the 2006 world cup they built the Allianz Arena on the outskirts of Munich. But besides that, you have a strong point!

[@99dndd]

It says a lot about the Glazers when you find out that there’s so many issues to fix that it would be cheaper to knock Old Trafford down and rebuild it.

[@McNuel007]

Maybe they should just call it "New Trafford"...

[@bigphil5980]

Glazernomics have cost this great club it’s iconic home - they’ve never spent a penny of their own money - just go and let someone come in that can bring us back to glory

[@HA-jq1mu]

Can they still keep the old stadium because its nostalgic

[@King01010]

I’m a spurs fan and I never been to Man Utd’s stadium I think this project would be amazing for Man U

[@cancakalr9264]

Old Trafford is like the Collesseum in Rome. It is more than a stadium, its a symbol of a city and a team. I live in İstanbul and we have 15,5 million population. It is like taking down Hagia Sophia and building a new and bigger one to pray. I wish they improve Old Trafford not demolish it.

[@JoeHardy-wy8zr]

Don't you mean the TOWN of Stretford?

[@ppate8]

Let’s not compare The Colosseum with that dump of a City and its stadium

[@amenboughanmi5819]

The Santiago Bernabue hosted a world cup final, a European cup final and champions league finals the satdium was renovated not demolished that's why the cost was almost 1B euro but it happened because thoughtout the years the chamartin or the Bernabue has always been well kept for united the only option is a total demolishing and a brand new stadium

[@RobbieCumming]

Would always welcome plans involving the canal :)

[@1417黃奕泓WongYikWangClayto]

Old is GOLD❤

[@peterdetemmerman3034]

as foreigner they speak about fan experience. Yes old trafford do need a new stadium but fan experience at what cost. Local fan experience is also enjoying football game with friends,family at reasonable ticket prices especially for kids and teens every week. Not like american prices of 250dollar in LA Rams stadium on second lvl (exist 5lvls). What is point for local fans,families when they have state of art stadium but they can't go or have to stop cause ticket prices are too high.

[@jamie3093]

You need to preview Luton Town’s new stadium plans 😍✨

[@LoneWolf-sg5qk]

We so need it OLD TRAFFORD WILL ALWAYS BE THE FOUNDATION 🔰💯❤️

[@Taylor___]

I just hope it has a roof. And big screens for replays and VAR.

[@fretbuzz6893]

It's interesting that the younger fans want to retain features of the ground that have only come along in very recent years or since the Premier League era. I recently saw one of the Fan Cam guys say he wants the White Scaffold roof support recreated to reflect the history of the ground. Well, thats less than 30 years old as is the Tunnel in the corner as one fan mentions in this video. If you want tradition bring back the Red and White Picket Fencing around the pitch, just don't go changing the temperature settings for the Pie warming machine, It's always nice to have a hand wamer that will last throughout the game and part of the jouney home.

[@24sumo]

Something that happened 30 years ago isn’t recent years I’m 40. Ive had a season ticket for about 20 years. Had no idea the tunnel moved from the centre. It’s irrelevant

[@fretbuzz6893]

@24sumo I think you missed the point. Recent years = recent history. Ask someone my age that's been going since late 60's. Been a LMTB holder and ST holder almost as long as you are old. We have a different perspective on club history.

[@englishgentleman3551]

We need to have more local fans on match day they are the heart and soul of the club.

[@larrysellers7891]

INEOS want fan tourism, they spend more money. Hence £66 for a kids ticket,

[@gamerbeans7445]

Big bro Jay ftom Stretford paddock on the beeb. I never thought I'd see the day. 🤣🤣🤣

[@AgecaseV]

If they're going to build a new stadium, the priority should be to get the highest capacity possible that the infrastructure in the surrounding areas can handle. Morroco is building a 115,000 stadium the largest in the world by 2028 and Nou camp 105,000 stadium by 2026. Cant Man Utd aim somewhere around this mark 106,000 to 116,000 capacity by 2030, let us aim for the top. I am sure more fans attending would be better than less attending but there are fancy LED screens

[@PhilipAshton-je7uf]

A new stadium would take my breath away I think it’s needed to be honest but old Trafford stadium will always have special place in my heart all memories will be there regardless of having new stadium I think it’s time to build a new stadium and move with the times let’s make it bigger better and out of this world come on get your act together Jim Ratcliffe let’s get it built now

[@starights]

It will look good in the Championship!

[@wrighthartlane99]

I have always hated the tunnel being in the corner like United and Fulham. I prefer from the side stand and keep it simple and short.

[@revlmao7525]

old trafford and this current man utd team is just the perfect personification of the UK as a whole 😄

[@rayyseason]

Doesn’t need to be better than any other stadium. Just needs to be better than their current one.

[@makavellitheprince5256]

1:16 this sofi stadium looks like one I would find myself in with my AK in a cod game

[@trx3668]

Old Trafford is probably one of the most iconic stadiums on the planet!

[@Andykibe254]

Remove the word probably

[@peterlpool1387]

It was. It’s seen better days.

[@Wunderkinddd]

They need to build a stadium not an nfl soulless bowl. Build like dortmund yellow wall but 360.

[@latchdoorlatch996]

What not have have someone design and build it with a traditional look but with state of the art facilities

[@Ali_Arma]

100pc I think incorporating the iconic red brick of MCR would really stand out, the outside of these new stadiums are just bland metal

[@aleksandarnesic3693]

And no one speaks who is going to pay for that Stadium. Absolutely brilliant 💯 what a diabolical idea.

[@Weenyween]

United is trying to make local government pay for stadium in name of community development? It may work in America but not here, because teams can't use relocation threat.

[@dalenesbitt2491]

Go on Jay boy!

[@OutofNoWhere-z5m]

From Indonesia since 1991☝🏽

[@redmed10]

Anything over 40k you're going to need binoculars to really see whats going on ,on the pitch. Might as well watch at home considering the costs of tickets, food and drink. Man u can do what it wants as long as it pays for it itself

[@IshmaelNgicho]

Why New old Trafford? Should be New Trafford

[@NuwagiraFahadi]

Let's pray that the project is implemented

[@FilipeAbreu]

The dream would be to keep the same industrial style which is part of the history and make it slightly more modern. For me there should be a couple concepts at least, for supporters to vote and then make de decision from that. Take in the opinion of those who make this club what it is

[@philipstevens7947]

Nice of BBC sport to do a PR video for Man United. Don;t remember them doing this for any other club?

[@cfents8660]

Jay Motty preaching the good word. UTFP

[@bareknuckles2u]

One thing for sure, the Glazers will do everything they can to saddle the cost onto the taxpayers. That's what they did with the Raymond James stadium in Tampa for their NFL team (Buccaneers).

[@anthonymellor174]

Needs to include Newton Heath where theatre of dreams are created !

[@c4wrc]

Yet nothing done since 2005 yet from late 80s upto 2000 tranformed

[@iceetmarne3571]

Yes Jay!

[@cordypants3639]

Roof gets a leak - "We need a brand new stadium" 😂

[@Jarvis.ChrisT]

The grand final posters making it in the video 🍒🤍

[@mubeenabdullah2227]

New Trafford incoming 2030 ! 🔥

[@redlester]

"Man U" 🙄 those pictures of the "leaking roof" were from the Arsenal match where the downpour was so massive the drainage system couldn't cope - same happened at Dortmund during the Euros. I am generally more in favour of new than refurb, but this video has made me re-think that. I'm more tempted now to say leave it precisely as it is!

[@helmiizhamharunarashid3416]

The stadium was born in 1910.. but not much of it left.. almost everything but the small players tunnel which is no longer in use, were all built in modern times.. so there is nothing much to preserve, historically-speaking, other than the fear of losing the feeling of being in the current Old Trafford stadium.. I felt that whatever magic it had, was gone the moment United tore down the Stretford End in 1992-93 and replaced it with the "West Stand".. so now, it's all fair game..

[@Kenners.]

Make it so!!

[@maninthebox1678]

"Its not just going to the football" , yes, yes it is. Get me there 10 mins before kick off and get me on the first tram home. This is what 90% of match going fans want.

[@owenpavey]

The current Old Trafford should be kept.For all it's faults it is well connected to public transport and all its seats offer an unobstructed view of the pitch. It could still be an excellent home for Man United Womens Team (rather than playing at Leigh),FA Cup & League Cup Semi Finals & The Rugby Football League's home as both Grand Final & Challenge Cup Final venue.

[@nicknewman7848]

Nice idea, but it justs costs more and more money to keep a massive building like that going and you'd then have two stadiums to staff. The attendances for the women are not going to cut it when it comes to the costs of maintenance and staff. You'd only have to pull it down eventually anyway. I'd love for them to strip it back down to a 25,000 all seater, completely refurbed, new roof and modernised with all the heritage kept in place but it would probably cost them over £500 million to do even that. It doesn't make any sense. They're already £850 million in debt.

[@jjmcqueen2261]

Old trafford has atmosphere. This looks like a soulless library designed for tourists.