[BBST 450] Mutual Submission in Marriage - Ron Pierce

March 11, 2013

[@ProfDenS]

Great understanding of what this text proclaims and in the use of its canonical context.

[@ad8143]

Ephesians 5:18-23 is one long sentence. Eph 5:24 stands in the adversative and is probably an interpolation. It reverses and contradicts everything stated in verse 21. Unless the Church can produce an original copy of Ephesians, it is a Catholic interpolation in my view. Christian men used to be extorted from the pulpits on Sunday mornings by Bishops to beat their wives. Beat them daily they said, even if they were obedient. This epistle has been responsible for the bloodshed and terrorization of millions of women. Male headship is nothing more than a husband getting first picks at everything and building his life and ego off of his wife's back. No adult woman needs a man to lead her. You can call us rebellious all you want, but we do not need your leadership. Your ideas and judgments are not superior to ours. When you tell you beforehand not to do something and you do it anyways and it ends up disastrous, who is the leader then? Was it not the wife's wisdom, insight, and leadership that was the correct course of action to take? Why not acknowledge the truth then and stop playing these games.

[@villain2374]

Goodness some bad hermeneutic to reach mutual submission which the context does not provide.

[@Bible33AD]

Good hermeneutics to those who wish to be imitators of Christ. Bad hermeneutics to those that don't.

[@villain2374]

@@Bible33AD THOSE THAT BOW DOWN TO FEMINISMM AND THE PHILOSOPHIES OF MEN TEACH AND DEFEND THIS

[@roberthunter6174]

Yea, I am just listening to this series so I can write down the errors and have a better foundation for apologetics for this heresy, it’s a shame how he sounds so smart and yet he is leading so many people away from the VERY CLEAR message of god. If someone wasn’t educated in Hebrew or Greek I can see how easy it is to persuade people to your side…