The Big Match 27.12.69 - QPR-Birmingham, Sunderland-ManUtd, Ipswich-Spurs

[@1061andy]

Love football from this era - the pitches, the terraces, the kits, the lack of bloated hype.

[@nguyendailam6703]

No VAR No politics

[@seltaeb3302]

Real mate. Men not boys. Character.

[@hxjay1971]

Same here Andy I stopped watching when they started kneeling and haven’t missed it at all I just watch old re runs like this far more enjoyable

[@paulhollis8879]

The wit in the crowds and no boring stats apart from the league table..

[@rohithraman6488]

@@hxjay1971 I don't really judge a football game by whether they kneel before the game or not, you could just watch the game and not the pre match part

[@stulincoln4874]

Commentator speaks of Birmingham conceding 3 goals the day before, Boxing Day 1969. That was at home v Blackpool (2-3) the very first time I attended a Blues match. I was 8 years old and fell in love with Birmingham city that day. I still go and see them regularly 54 years later. Keep right on.

[@davidgbarron]

Not all ITV Regions went into colour in November 1969. Anglia which provided the Ipswich game did not go into colour until October 1970 and Tyne-Tees went colour slightly earlier than that.

[@andrewswift5690]

Tyne Tees was Friday 17th July 1970

[@andrewswift8139]

Sunderland v Man City 5th Rd replay in February 1973 was also in b/w and that was under lights too

[@antster1983]

The ITV football fansite (carousel.royalwebhosting.net/itv/Anglia.html) says it's likely that Anglia's football coverage remained in monochrome until the start of the 1971-2 season.

[@rokerroar7245]

Now aged 59 that sunderland match was my very first game,still a season card holder

[@Voltaire-dv8cs]

Interestingly, Mike Kelly, the QPR 'keeper in this match, signed for Birmingham the following year ( 1970 ) and went on to make a number of appearances for them until 1976. He was Manager of Plymouth Argyle ( one of the few goalkeeper's to manage a league club, especially at that time ) for a few month's in 1977 -1978, before resigning after a poor part season with the Pilgrims that saw Argyle plummet to near the bottom of the old Division 3. He later became a goalkeeping coach for England and various League Clubs. A good 'keeper, but not really cut out for a Manager's role.

[@deegeekay]

Indeed, England and Switzerland coach, before following Hodgson from Fulham to Liverpool.

[@darganx]

Later known as Mike 'facking' Kelly when at Liverpool with Hodgson.

[@Wizerud]

Wow two games in two days. Things have changed. The rattles are a sound from a bygone era.

[@danabrahams7892]

First thing that struck me... they'd be crying nowadays

[@celticwarrior1365]

Commentator got that one wrong when referring to Brum keeper as "Latchford of the Robert variety," confusing the two brothers.

[@simonlilley]

Fun trivia, Ray Martin the Birmingham right-back his brother Paul, was my boss for a while around 2000.

[@mnd1955]

Roy Woolcott's one and only appearance for Tottenham was in that game at Ipswich. He left in 1972 for Gillingham and sadly, passed away in 2018.

[@converse91970]

I would love to see the edition of TBM when I gather Jimmy Hill replaced Brian Moore in the commentary box, due to illness. I believe it was for a game at Brighton, and possibly around the same time?

[@andrewdeane7716]

Brighton v Chelsea 1973 FA cup

[@converse91970]

Andrew Deane Thank you - I did find it eventually!

[@JCX4801]

This was highly entertaining. Long before my time, but a great watch.

[@davefisher9418]

to whoever it was who asked whether John Camkin was alive, sadly he died, in 1998. By the way great to see QPR in the late 60's.

[@alunjones685]

Re: Ipswich-Spurs. Looks like they forgot about the TV cameras when originally designing Portman Road. Pretty much the view a fan to the side of the goal has of a match, takes a bit of getting used to...

[@converse91970]

That is so true! I have also seen at least one BBC covered Leeds match from the 60s where the camera was situated in a similar position.

[@grahamd4764]

Birmingham conceded three goals yesterday! What? Wouldn't hear the last of it today if teams had to play two days on the trot.

[@richardsharpe2966]

I have heard of John Camkin he used to work at Anglia TV and was part of ITV 1966 world cup team with Barry Davies and Hugh Johns who made there tv debu for the world cup if i am right and could someone confirm that to me please John Camkin went to Oxford if my memory is correct and is he still alive could someone let me know please

[@antster1983]

Sadly John Camkin passed away from lung cancer in June 1998 at the age of 75.

[@nguyendailam6703]

I went to a bollocks 0-0 draw between Arsenal and Newcastle at Highbury that day.

[@randybackgammon890]

Anyone know what was the first British game ever shown in colour or the first game anywhere shown in colour for that matter. George best in his book mentions the '67 charity shield having been colour broadcast from some transmitters. But no known footage exists.My guess it was the 68 cup final in colour video. There were of course colour newsreel films before this

[@richardgordon2098]

I remember reading that colour TV cameras were at the 1967 Charity Shield match but that, due to an error, the VTR used to record the match was only black and white capable. Apparently the BBC were embarrassed as they had a gathering of senior football officials to demonstrate how good football could look in colour.

[@wildbill8635]

Yup, they were still using these rattles by young boys, dressed in warm coat with scarf & school cap on, but the 1970s were coming & that lad a few years older, now wearing cheap flares, jacket & running riot on the pitch giving it large. The rattle thing came from WW1 in the trenches when if there was a gas attack designated soldiers would get their rattle out & start whirling it around shouting "gas attack & up the Spurs"! True!

[@synthdude]

1:11 that Monty save!!

[@chatham43]

....."Birmingham in the dark shirts"..LOL.....not many with a colour set in those days..

[@bjblacker2]

jimmy hill filling in for brian moore

[@LED1512]

That's some sea fret over Roker and where was Bobby?

[@andrewswift5690]

At the end Jimmy wishes Arsenal could win the Fairs Cup - they did just that, beating Anderlecht who had put the holders Newcastle United out in the quarter-finals on away goals

[@darren2514fv]

The main match is in colour while Sunderland v MU and Ipswich v Spurs are in Black and White

[@petergoddard262]

I.T.V only had 1 colour camera. HAHAHAHAHA

[@antster1983]

ITV only started broadcasting in colour from November 1969, and even then it was only The Big Five regional companies who did (Thames/LWT, ATV, Granada and Yorkshire). Took until 1972 for every ITV company in Great Britain and Northern Ireland to broadcast in colour. Channel Television in the Channel Islands had to wait until 1976 for colour television!

[@TheGlassman63]

Sounds like Brian Moore had a rotten Christmas then.

[@mjh5437]

No cringey kneeling and grovelling to suffer here.