BCn presents: Ronnie O'Sullivan vs. Wu Chia-Ching in the World Pool Masters

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Billiard Club Network, in association with Matchroom Sport, presents the 2006 World Pool Masters from the Hotel Zuiderduin in Egmond aan Zee on the Nederland's north sea coast.
16 of the world's finest 9-Ball Players from nine nations compete for the title of World Pool Master. The game is 9-Ball, with each match a race to 8 racks with alternate breaks.
This is the Billiard Club TV Presentation of Match #8 featuring Snooker Champion Ronnie O'Sullivan and two-time World Champion Wu Chia-Ching of China
Commentators Jim Wych and Ted Lerner call all the action.
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[@AngrierGorilla]

to the people complaining about Jim Wych "snooker" pronunciation: maybe he doesn't say it correctly, but I wouldn't bash him so harshly, considering that he knows a thing or two about snooker. In fact he participated 4 times to World Snooker Championship, and was quarter finalist twice (1980 and 1992), beating players like John Pulman, Dennis Taylor and Willie Thorne.

[@gopcongress]

Watching the Rocket on a nine-ball table is like watching Roger Federer on a ping pong table.

[@ExplosiveBG]

+Jonah Kyle Well, Table Tennis requres a lot of skill and practice to play at a high level, not so say that pool doesnt, but it cant be compared to snooker in precision, while you can compare tennis to table tennis in the skill and precision required to play.

[@jimmyt2088]

+ExplosiveBG looks like a chess player playing a checkers player, snooker takes more strategy, stroke and aim.

[@Fatjonir]

+Jonah Kyle ahhahahhahahhahhah.......... there are alot of maches of Ronie in pool 8 ect is like Messi playing football indoor....

[@dnbmania]

+Jimmy Thoms I think he's a better cueist than them all when it comes to pool but he's not familiar with all of the shots and that held him back. American pool players have probably been jumping balls all of their life.

[@atonibai]

Snooker is a boring game while Pool is an exciting game and most popular one.

[@CharlesOwen93]

Is anyone else getting mad acid-like traces when someone takes a shot? Fucking annoying

[@warrensmith8606]

"in pool you spin the cue ball, in snooker you do everything not to, you spin the cue ball when you have absolutely no choice, in snooker spinning the cue ball creates an unnatural angle..." - this guy speaks total bullshit. Cue ball control in snooker is so important that your spin on the cue ball is 10 times more important than pool. Of course in both sports you would try to make it so you play as many plain ball shots as possible. In pool this is far easier. Unless you snooker yourself in pool, no shot is particularly difficult. Play it from anywhere you'll probably get it if you're a good potter.

[@CloudysGuitarChannel]

I haven't watched yet, but he sounds correct to me. In Snooker, the larger table means the slightest deviation of a balls path can have dire effects, and the chances of it happening are much higher in Snooker, though not so much a worry in pool.

[@8ytan]

+CloudysGuitarChannel You're right that a bigger table (and smaller balls) means there's a bigger deviation in the balls path. That's one of the reasons why spin is so important in snooker, though. The main reason for a snooker player to miss a pot is because they're too busy trying to screw back for their next shot, or run through and off the cushion to start clearing up on the other end of the table. What he said about spin on the cue ball being undesirable in snooker is actually, empirically wrong.

[@dhirajpallin2572]

I heard Ronnie puts some spin on almost every shot.

[@FIVE-0-APOCALYPTO]

@@dhirajpallin2572 ....or maybe he puts what is needed because the shot requires it? .....or maybe, if one wanted to put "LESS SPIN" on average, I guess they would have to emphasize their pattern play more so, to create natural running angles that lend more toward the vertical axis side of the equation or god knows, that magic center cue ball that everyone prudent and wise speaks of, that maybe out of 1000 players per year, 1 accidentally hits dead center. I wonder if one day, center cue ball will be correctly taboo, unlike "spin". Every delivery in effect is spun and off center is a better target because i can always hit right or left of center, good luck hitting that vertical axis line that divides left and right every time.

[@dhirajpallin2572]

@@FIVE-0-APOCALYPTO I think Earl Strickland advocates putting side on virtually every shot.

[@azaas]

a living snooker legend, probably the best to ever play the game and among the most naturally gifted players ever vs one of pool's young guns and imho and with my limited knowledge on the technical aspects on the game one of the players to watch in the years to come. Thanks a lot BCLUB for uploading this. Subscribed and will never EVER unsubscribe. You guys promote pool with those videos. Re-watching that for the second time! Epic break by the kid!

[@jonerific]

Am I on drugs?

[@beeble2003]

You've gotta love the casual racism of the commentators' introduction where they start speculating about whether Wu speaks any English and whether he's even heard of his western opponent. The best part is that they don't even notice the level of ignorance they themselves are showing: two "professional" pool commentators freely admitting that they don't even know if their sport's world champion speaks English.

[@crazypiikkis]

Thats not racism.

[@Pablo-wy9yg]

I would not call it racism, but some ignorance yes.

[@garinyika8460]

When he said 'MATE" I bet ronnie wanted to punch him in the face.

[@sumon93]

@vincentwu...thx Yes u r right about alex pagulayan..i saw him playing snooker 2 weeks ago at SHOOTERS in toronto..he is canadian national snooker champ by the way.respect..

[@klaudiagrob]

I like both snooker and pool. I don't know how to play snooker yet but I know how to play pool. I'm quite good at it. It's true that snooker is more challenging. Pool can be as well.

[@Guellard]

Great, great, great video!

[@lemonite1]

@Trondyard Actually Willie Mosconi,Steve Mizerak, Jim Rempe, and Efren Reyes are(were) known as excellent snooker players.

[@111LoneStar]

Anyone wants to see The Rocket at his blistering best just type in Ronnie o'sullivan fastest 147 ever.A 147 is the higgest break you can make in snooker, ronnie did it in just 5 mins and 20 seconds. Amazing

[@tiatrips]

Ronnie's hits are interesting to watch as compared to a lot of other players.

[@carloslmcnulty]

i wonder if there's somewhere in the internet where i can find these games in hd

[@zss123456789]

吳珈慶萬歲~ GOGOGO TAIWANESE GO GO TAIWAN!!!! ya i know this video is an year old but I still get my blood pumped up when i watch this it's so epic~ I'm love playing pool it's so relaxing yet can be the hardest

[@Veloxzr]

That commentator who keeps talking about snooker is so obnoxiously condescending.

[@tfn105]

Also, this match really swung on the O'Sullivan miscue in frame 6. It was neck and neck up to that point

[@MDKaifyTauheed]

Ronnie is still the best...his shots were classic , unlike Wu who got lucky.

[@davidvilla0908]

as a rocket fan, it is so hilarious to watch him play pool especially when he hits the packs so hardly with his body jumped.

[@ryankelly2109]

Keeping control of the cueball is a vital part of snooker and snooker is for more technical, you have nothing as mentally taxing as a high quality safty battle.

[@SnareBuff]

And I refer to my own: anyone with knowledge knows that each game has their own give and take in terms of difficulty. In snooker, the longer distance goes to speed control, a thing you adapt to when you play the game. You make it sound as if it's near impossible to play position in snooker and you don't even have to think in pool.

[@kr1schan8906]

Great video! 10x BClub! Looking forward for more :)

[@omartron]

7:53 "That little walk there was just to gather himself" ...no it wasn't haha, he was checking out the angle :p like you're meant to haha

[@TheycallmeMrWonka]

Yeah I thought the same thing. I'm just so used to them doing it in Snooker, I was like, eh, he's just doing what players always do checking their shot.

[@arcnhn2410]

And 3rd, Efren Reyes has been my idol for many years, you don't have to "introduce" him to me. But the thing is, I've never seen a video of him playing snooker, I've searched all youtube, if you have one, please upload it and I'll be very appreciated. 4th, snooker abilities can't help anyone in playing better in pool, and I didn't say that, I repeat that each game requires each types of technique, if in snooker it's inch perfect in cueing, in pool it's rhythm and positioning

[@fastballonly]

dongchinchin is telling you that it is pointless to determine which game is harder solely by virtue of pocketing, but it involves a number of other aspects such as positioning, safeties, kick safeties etc.

[@WolfieTed]

I agree. I have to be carefull how I say this now :P As a snooker player of 20 odd years and a 9-ball player of about 12 I do think that 9 ball has the element of luck to it, if the balls break well in 9-ball and it's a few shots to run out. Snooker requires a hell of a lot more game. You are 100% right though, the entry level for pro snooker is out of reach for some great players who just can't quite cross that "line" where 9-ball allows players more by the way of forgiving wide shots.

[@Abnsdllnnlosnfd]

14:17 Uhuhuhuhu he said "long and hard"

[@BigDave297]

That's true. I play British Pool in Blackball rules, and I tend to play snooker to work on my aiming accuracy. And it pays off, once you go from a snooker table to a pool table for a match, potting is made easy :).

[@tfn105]

... than the object ball (which completely alters potting angles and how the ball reacts to backspin/topspin), and given the relative size of the balls to the table, positional play can be quite tricky too.

[@Qatari-]

this game is all about the break, if ronnie knows how to break properly he will be unbeatable

[@SnareBuff]

I'll give you one thing, shotmaking is difficult in snooker seeing as you have to judge more distance, but anyone that moves into pool recognizes that the balls roll differently, and playing position gets tighter. Try running high amounts in straight pool on a 9 foot table with 4.5 inch pockets. The avenues are alot tighter with much more "threading of the needle." By no means am I saying pool is tougher, but I AM saying that the games are each difficult in their own regard.

[@mowiejj]

U guys can say what ever u like, but ronnie o'sullivan is the most talented player in snooker pool and all billiard games. He's just one of those persons tht are meant to do only one thing, and they do it fkn good

[@ponjoss]

don't allow tolerance? what do you mean. there are times in pool that the ball will hit the cushion in between the holes and still go in..

[@koneye]

Thanks alot for the up !!!

[@Apektuah]

Very well said. To me, pool is more of a game in Pubs, whereas, snooker requires more skills and concentrations.

[@vincentwu5981]

@mrdarrencottam i would say though that snooker players transition easier to 9 ball, but the top 3 cushion players can very well play competitive 9 ball as well. the reason why few pool players transitioned to snooker is just that most of them don't have access to snooker tables or would have to go out of their way to practice. but i agree with u, respect both sports!

[@boomyakasha]

@vincentwu the objective of a game is to prove that you are better at a skill than someone else. since snooker is a harder game it fulfills the purpose of games better than for example 9 ball.

[@vincentwu5981]

@sumon93 exactly! plus short races in 9 ball really don't mean that much either. the snooker format makes it a lot more consistent for the better player to win more consistently because there are so many balls in one game. if this match was played to say 20 racks or so, it would be a much more dominant game for Wu

[@elrondsch]

Any info on that? I have not seen any biography of Cliff that would indicate him being a pool player.

[@ImposingSumo]

@o0J4Y0o In another video, the commentator said that snooker players tend to bring perfect technique, whereas pool players tend to excel in pattern recognition. So yes, you're right, different games with different skill sets.

[@SnareBuff]

But what you're failing to acknowledge is that classical guitar vs electric guitar is almost identical in terms of playing field. There are the obvious differences, but the topic we're talking about is drastically different in nearly every way except putting balls into pockets. Keeping concentration over longer because of table and pocket size? For starters, the bigger table isn't the worst part of the whole thing, neither is the pockets. Because of the table size, you have larger areas to play

[@barcellos3562]

"The only mistake was in the first rack, the 2 ball.......... UNTIL NOW"

[@Niksana951]

thank you thank you thank you thank you and thank you for uploading this match :)

[@SnareBuff]

Let's have a comparison here. If what is being said is true, then A.) Small pockets mean more accuracy, B.) Bigger table means harder cueball control, and C.) Table size makes all the difference. Let's categorize a few things then. That would mean that English pool would fall in last with a tiny table, American pool would come next, then Snooker, and finally Russian billiards (considering the table is big, balls are big, and pockets are tiny).

[@boomyakasha]

@lksong2041 I agree that safety play is a lot more difficult in 9 ball. However in snooker you have to play red, colour, red and so on. There's also the need to canon the reds when also trying to pot a coloured ball, whereas in 9 ball you break the balls at the beginning. The amount of spin and power that needs to be inflicted on the cue ball in order to canon the reds in such a way which spreads them well and doesn't leave you chineased in the middle of the pack is a lot more substantial.

[@9BallRd]

I agree 110%

[@tfn105]

@lemonite1 Also, the best snooker players never take on 'difficult shots' - as you put it - because they are world class and their positional play is second to none. Losing position in snooker is a snowballing effect: you _just_ creep away from ideal position (say, the wrong side of the blue), and all of a sudden your position deteriorates on the next shot, and soon you are out of position entirely or missing a toughish pot. In 9-ball, the pockets are so big that you can be either side of the...

[@111LoneStar]

Just want make clear i'm not saying ronnie isn't great, his natural ability at snooker and even at billiards in general is fantastic. How many players out there are world class using both their hands (right and left handed play), hes not even ambidextrous he just taught him self to play with both hands, he's a genius. But billiards comes in many different and quite specialized forms, no one person can possibly be the best at them all no matter who they are.

[@SnareBuff]

Snooker players are tremendous shot makers, but that doesn't constitute any degree of comparison when it comes to talent, knowledge, or prowess. Shotmaking won't get you out of every hole. Making long shots and aiming at a small hole is one thing, but when you're cheating the pocket (knowingly risking a miss) and forcing the cueball to go a certain direction for your next ball, there's no way to take any difficulty away from that.

[@vincentwu5981]

@PeterOwen88 i wouldn't disagree that a snooker match can more easily identify the better player. for 9 ball players, they have to prove it through out their career. its like poker, there's a lot of luck involved, an amateur can beat a professional on any given day, but the professional will edge out int he long run. i would say 3 cushion billiards does a better job than snooker or 9 ball in eliminating the luck factor, would u agree?

[@dku001]

great game. snooker king vs. pool champion!

[@vincentwu5981]

@speedgun00 safety and kick shots are extremely important in one's pool games, but i would agree with u that 9 ball has way too much luck on short matches. however, this goes for both players, there is the pressure that you must clear the rack of balls, because the game is just as easy to their opponent. where in snooker, even for professionals players don't consistently run the rack. however i admire snooker player's accuracy and power control, they are very precise on that

[@gpuppy1234]

All these snooker vs pool commenters are ridiculous. Ronnie is great at snooker but come on if archer, strickland, sigel played snooker they could be great no doubt. People act like pool players cannot pocket balls in a snooker game. Like its impossible for them or sometjing

[@synaProductions]

Water From a Vine Leaf. Damn...

[@BarkingAkai]

next time, please upload a higher quality please

[@metsrdabest]

cod master and a snooker king? u r a beast scoobs!! :)

[@widebody123]

very kind of ronnie to play with the kids

[@zenzombie72]

Rendered with a toaster.

[@TreuloseTomate]

Link? I can't find it.

[@dzarren]

@pkqcpat thats not his point. hes saying that the commentators arent pronouncing snooker right. Im sure he knows what Snooker is.

[@CupOfOrangeJuice1]

man wu is lucky the commentator said that pool is part of the curriculum in where he is from

[@blu3collar949]

Ronnie was kicking ass when he was 14 so I doubt he was worried about a junior in high school.

[@alZiiHardstylez]

@mykala143 Entirely different games, entirely different play styles. O'Sullivan is a great SNOOKER player, Snooker is what he knows. Wu Ching is a great POOL player, he really only knows 9 ball and just regular Pool. They're both great players in their own right. Wu was never trying to take down Sullivan. Gtfo

[@batman30351]

i think alot of people actually underestimate 9-ball. you can't say that snooker is "harder" than pool, the only thing that is more difficult in my opinion is mastering the accuracy needed. but positioning in 9-ball is actually alot more complex, many a time you would need inch perfect positioning if you want to have a smooth run, whereas in snooker it's mostly basic positioning, red colour red colour red colour, and the colours are on the same spots every time.

[@nkro]

wow o'sullivan comes back and wins it all! one of the greatest comebacks ever!

[@SnareBuff]

You can't expect a guy pickin up a cue for the first time to play like it's cake. He or she will need loads of easy shots to start off with in order to not only build their confidence, but to teach them how to apply what they know on the easy shots to the more difficult ones, and add more to their game. Aside from that, no champion will come out of the gate running. Everyone must endure the transitive stage and adjust to the new game and it's equipment. It's no breeze, believe it or not.

[@animeisfav]

i played recently actually. i kinda enjoyed learning it.

[@Zacksleeps]

well if Ronnie played pool against this guy over 100 racks, he'd probably win about 35 racks, but if they played snooker against each other over 100 frames, Ronnie would win about 95 times. Ronnie is an amazing snooker player which is an infinitely more difficult game. Chia-Ching is a great pool player - cant take that away from him

[@neuvocastezero1838]

Was this a final or semi-finals match? How far did Ronnie get?

[@haiping0918]

like to see wu playing snooker with ronnie.

[@jonathantong1222]

Its snooker, thats the american pronunciation. In my opinion, much much harder and really, a proper game that exercises your brain.

[@PeterOwen88]

O'Sullivan would wipe the floor with this guy on a snooker table

[@vincentwu5981]

@TToTToTT u are absolutely correct. its stupid to compare success with snooker player succeeding in snooker and pool players succeeding in pool. if a snooker player succeeded in pool, then hes a good pool player as well. very few have made a transition. and the ones that did are snooker hall of famers so there is no surprise that they can make that transition. but it is ignorant to say ALL snooker players can make that transition

[@jceepf]

No doubt. The games are different and a pro at one does not do well at the other game. But I tried both game, and it is easier for a snooker player to look good at pool than it is for a pool player to look good at snooker. This is just the nature of the games.

[@vincentwu5981]

@PeterOwen88 don't refer to 9 ball as "pool" there are many more difficult and advanced games in pool. 9 ball is a relatively easy game, especially for pros who can get away with poor position play with their accuracy. however, breaking is not all luck. u can master it enough to use good power and control the cue ball, but that is just about the most difficult thing to do, where you are cueing that fast and you have to hit the correct spot on the cue ball while hitting the one ball with accuracy

[@gravidoff]

its pretty obvious that the break off shot has a lot to do with the game, each time ronnie potted the white off the break he lost the game whereas Wu was ruthless with his breakoffs. In terms of potting ability id side with ronnie anyday but as a complete player Wu is the man for pool

[@kirby271194]

Yeah!!!!!

[@tfn105]

@lemonite1 You said it yourself. There are fewer risks taken because even potting a ball is significantly tougher in snooker. You can't just go at everything. The cloths are lightning quick and losing position can be a matter of millimetres. The balls are heavier and require better technique to achieve cue-ball reaction. I play 8-ball, 9-ball and snooker and by far snooker is the toughest. English 8-ball is the next toughest I think because it's the only cuesport where the cue-ball is smaller...

[@tfn105]

In the whole snooker vs pool thing: I expect O'Sullivan to lose this match, just as I'd fully expect O'Sullivan to beat Wu at snooker. The difference is that I think the margin of victory in snooker would be greater. O'Sullivan made a contest of this in a way Wu wouldn't have a chance of at snooker.

[@ProstTupIdiot]

I cannot play snooker but i love to watch it. i can play pool, but i gotta admit, snooker is a much more harder game then pool. Theres more strategy involved. and btw i play 8 ball, 10/9ball sux dix. but snookers the top cue sport. nothing is harder and better than snooker, but to be decent in snooker, you gotta practice a lot, and better start now!

[@hendinho87]

agree

[@stantono]

also it'd be quite funny to see 9 ball players trying to play snooker against the snooker players.. the difficulty they'd have would be something to watch

[@retikka]

both games are pretty hard and need different strategies. I feel it's easier to adjust to the stategies of pool, as a snooker player, than it is for a pool player to adjust to snooker.

[@jpjames1]

yes they fucking do

[@InternetBlowing]

Ronnie is a great snucker player

[@azaas]

amazing player!!!!

[@MrKILLERKOSTYA]

love how they are making out every shot as difficult for ronnie. they have never seen the size of the snOOker balls and the 12ft tables that snOOker uses. Oh and the pockets are half the size to add to that!!!

[@Zbotiman]

@darkmotherdivine101 O'Sullivan certainly doesn't need any defense of his cuing skills. But hey, this guy on the road in the U.S., hustling, traveling tournament to tournament with a really knowledgeable player, and in short order he's at the top of the pool world! A safe bet would be with-in a year! The sad part is that era of pool doesn't exist the same way it did in the 70's and 80's.

[@arvirex]

ronnie is god, everywhere he plays

[@ssbsanan]

a practical answer...am a snooker player, love pool. first time i played 9-ball pool after 2 years of snooker, i beat a guy who plays pool as a passion 9-4. am saying pool is easy in terms of shot making and estimating position play. running out 9 balls compared to 37. you can visualise a whole rack but a whole frame in snooker.

[@ThisLadWayne]

The actual Ronnie is on twitter @RealRonnie , giv him some support for those who are on twitter

[@animeisfav]

and in snooker there is nothing to avoid that's in your way except maybe sometimes the colored balls if your behind the d zone. And if you pocketed a red ball before that you could even shoot a colored ball in.

[@jackmurray3885]

He missed 1 shot due to a miscue, that’s it, everything else was because of his trouble with the 9 ball break, and that’s against the world champion at the time, and he missed less than the guy who won, unbelievable potter

[@SuperGm1988]

The match starts at 6:13

[@arpeemac]

it's true - it would've been a shock. i mean, ronnie cant even control his break. so how the hell would he win? he's far more accurate compared to Wu in terms of pocketing because of his snooker skills, but you should know that pool is a lot more than just being really good at pocketing. strategy, positional play and keeping tight control of the cue ball is more critical in pool. breaking the rack hard while keeping control of the cue ball is also critical in pool.

[@MrLitze]

interestin to see ronnie playing pool but the video quality really sucks..

[@arpeemac]

logically, keeping control of a snooker CB is easier. why? in a 12x6ft table you have a LOT of cloth you can roll the CB on, so there's less probability of unintentionally hitting another ball. now, try playing 8-ball pool on a 7x3.5ft table - larger balls and significantly smaller playing space. sometimes a matter of 2 inches of CB position would create a huge difference in playing the shot to prepare for the next object ball. there are a lot of 8ball matches here on YT on bar tables. go check

[@lfmm97]

Does anyone know why Ronnie's bridge hand was so much different to the way he bridges in snooker matches? Notice how he places his hand on the table with the middle and ring finger tucked in. What is the purpose of this when he spent his whole life bridging in a completely different way? Does it have something to do with the cue? I'm intrigued.

[@07kennydalglish]

LOGICALLY, it is. Actually, you can't use the entire table for CB control to built big breaks in snooker, but on pool table, you can. Snooker CB control is not that easy. Usually a professional snooker player divided CB side(NOT the entire sphere) facing player into 33-49 areas, or hitting points. How many hitting points are there for pool CB with such a GIANT tip on pool cue? 17?