BCn presents: Ronnie O'Sullivan vs. Wu Chia-Ching in the World Pool Masters

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Billiard Club Network, in association with Matchroom Sport, presents the 2006 World Pool Masters from the Hotel Zuiderduin in Egmond aan Zee on the Nederland's north sea coast.
16 of the world's finest 9-Ball Players from nine nations compete for the title of World Pool Master. The game is 9-Ball, with each match a race to 8 racks with alternate breaks.
This is the Billiard Club TV Presentation of Match #8 featuring Snooker Champion Ronnie O'Sullivan and two-time World Champion Wu Chia-Ching of China
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[@AngrierGorilla]

to the people complaining about Jim Wych "snooker" pronunciation: maybe he doesn't say it correctly, but I wouldn't bash him so harshly, considering that he knows a thing or two about snooker. In fact he participated 4 times to World Snooker Championship, and was quarter finalist twice (1980 and 1992), beating players like John Pulman, Dennis Taylor and Willie Thorne.

[@MyronMGains]

Thank you for this 240p video. I love feeling like it's 1980 all over again.

[@gopcongress]

Watching the Rocket on a nine-ball table is like watching Roger Federer on a ping pong table.

[@ExplosiveBG]

+Jonah Kyle Well, Table Tennis requres a lot of skill and practice to play at a high level, not so say that pool doesnt, but it cant be compared to snooker in precision, while you can compare tennis to table tennis in the skill and precision required to play.

[@jimmyt2088]

+ExplosiveBG looks like a chess player playing a checkers player, snooker takes more strategy, stroke and aim.

[@Fatjonir]

+Jonah Kyle ahhahahhahahhahhah.......... there are alot of maches of Ronie in pool 8 ect is like Messi playing football indoor....

[@dnbmania]

+Jimmy Thoms I think he's a better cueist than them all when it comes to pool but he's not familiar with all of the shots and that held him back. American pool players have probably been jumping balls all of their life.

[@atonibai]

Snooker is a boring game while Pool is an exciting game and most popular one.

[@azaas]

a living snooker legend, probably the best to ever play the game and among the most naturally gifted players ever vs one of pool's young guns and imho and with my limited knowledge on the technical aspects on the game one of the players to watch in the years to come. Thanks a lot BCLUB for uploading this. Subscribed and will never EVER unsubscribe. You guys promote pool with those videos. Re-watching that for the second time! Epic break by the kid!

[@zipplade]

And now, Ronnie vs. Wu Chia-Ching some snooker frames....

[@AngrierGorilla]

Yup! To come at the unexpected conclusion that everyone excels in their own specialty. What a surprise!

[@enilon123]

Got to love when professional snooker player go down to the difficulty level of 9ball and own shit up and making the opponent smile when he looses

[@losdilla]

ive been waiting for this one thanks for posting bclub you are the best.

[@carloslmcnulty]

i wonder if there's somewhere in the internet where i can find these games in hd

[@freedomforthebrave]

Snooker players got balls that's why they play pool pool players would never go play snooker

[@QXZ9027MKII]

Always a Joy to see Mrs Michaela Tabb.

[@whipy9203]

Finally some Ronnie!!! We love you Bclub! :-p

[@dku001]

And by the way, Wu knows who Ronnie is. He was young, but not stupid! He also plays snooker in Taiwan.

[@Guellard]

Great, great, great video!

[@jonerific]

Am I on drugs?

[@kr1schan8906]

Great video! 10x BClub! Looking forward for more :)

[@07kennydalglish]

I am unable to find efren's 15-ball rotation video. Could you provide a link? logically keeping control of snooker CB is easier, but it is LOGICAL. Big breaks in snooker need over 20 accurate positional shots using 1/4 table, because the red ball PACK is in the bottom half of the table. If you have a positional shot using the entire table, the break will stop at about 20 points.

[@koneye]

Thanks alot for the up !!!

[@garinyika8460]

When he said 'MATE" I bet ronnie wanted to punch him in the face.

[@sumon93]

@vincentwu...thx Yes u r right about alex pagulayan..i saw him playing snooker 2 weeks ago at SHOOTERS in toronto..he is canadian national snooker champ by the way.respect..

[@padstar999]

I love the contrast of snooker and pool commentary. Its "the rocket has left the launchpad" compared with, "he'll be feelint pressure now, will ronnie"

[@tiatrips]

Ronnie's hits are interesting to watch as compared to a lot of other players.

[@budomushin]

This commentator is crazy....seriously saying that Wu Jia Ching hasn't been exposed to the story of Ronnie O'Sullivan. I lived in China for 5 years and snooker is one of the biggest sports there, and O'Sullivan is known by Chinese persons who don't even play pool.

[@Gotwired]

Wu isn't Chinese...Or he wasn't at the time of this match...but he probably has heard of Ronnie before.

[@budomushin]

Gotwired depends on your definition of Chinese I guess. He was born in Taiwan (Which isn't always accepted as a country or it's own state. Since this isn't politics class I won't get into all that. However, from an ethnic point of view Taiwanese are Chinese in some right). He got Chinese citizenship to assist in his pool career. OF COURSE he heard about Ronnie (not quarreling about it, but trust me Ronnie ain't is a household name.奥沙利文 ao sha li wen...how they pronounce his name O'Sullivan

[@elrondsch]

Any info on that? I have not seen any biography of Cliff that would indicate him being a pool player.

[@Niksana951]

thank you thank you thank you thank you and thank you for uploading this match :)

[@CharlesOwen93]

Is anyone else getting mad acid-like traces when someone takes a shot? Fucking annoying

[@warrensmith8606]

"in pool you spin the cue ball, in snooker you do everything not to, you spin the cue ball when you have absolutely no choice, in snooker spinning the cue ball creates an unnatural angle..." - this guy speaks total bullshit. Cue ball control in snooker is so important that your spin on the cue ball is 10 times more important than pool. Of course in both sports you would try to make it so you play as many plain ball shots as possible. In pool this is far easier. Unless you snooker yourself in pool, no shot is particularly difficult. Play it from anywhere you'll probably get it if you're a good potter.

[@CloudysGuitarChannel]

I haven't watched yet, but he sounds correct to me. In Snooker, the larger table means the slightest deviation of a balls path can have dire effects, and the chances of it happening are much higher in Snooker, though not so much a worry in pool.

[@8ytan]

+CloudysGuitarChannel You're right that a bigger table (and smaller balls) means there's a bigger deviation in the balls path. That's one of the reasons why spin is so important in snooker, though. The main reason for a snooker player to miss a pot is because they're too busy trying to screw back for their next shot, or run through and off the cushion to start clearing up on the other end of the table. What he said about spin on the cue ball being undesirable in snooker is actually, empirically wrong.

[@dhirajpallin2572]

I heard Ronnie puts some spin on almost every shot.

[@FIVE-0-APOCALYPTO]

@@dhirajpallin2572 ....or maybe he puts what is needed because the shot requires it? .....or maybe, if one wanted to put "LESS SPIN" on average, I guess they would have to emphasize their pattern play more so, to create natural running angles that lend more toward the vertical axis side of the equation or god knows, that magic center cue ball that everyone prudent and wise speaks of, that maybe out of 1000 players per year, 1 accidentally hits dead center. I wonder if one day, center cue ball will be correctly taboo, unlike "spin". Every delivery in effect is spun and off center is a better target because i can always hit right or left of center, good luck hitting that vertical axis line that divides left and right every time.

[@dhirajpallin2572]

@@FIVE-0-APOCALYPTO I think Earl Strickland advocates putting side on virtually every shot.

[@lemonite1]

@Trondyard Actually Willie Mosconi,Steve Mizerak, Jim Rempe, and Efren Reyes are(were) known as excellent snooker players.

[@TreuloseTomate]

Link? I can't find it.

[@MrAntup]

The announcer is an x pro snooker plyer turned pro pool he knows both games very well

[@beeble2003]

You've gotta love the casual racism of the commentators' introduction where they start speculating about whether Wu speaks any English and whether he's even heard of his western opponent. The best part is that they don't even notice the level of ignorance they themselves are showing: two "professional" pool commentators freely admitting that they don't even know if their sport's world champion speaks English.

[@crazypiikkis]

Thats not racism.

[@Pablo-wy9yg]

I would not call it racism, but some ignorance yes.

[@de23Emil]

first view!:D Keep posting bclub!!! been waiting for this match for a long time! THANKS!

[@GetMeThere1]

Why does the video "blur" on the moving balls like that? And it seems to do it only on the full table shots, and not the close-ups (mostly). It makes those full table shots completely pointless to watch.

[@fgroen1225]

To all of those who claim that snooker players should stick to snooker: get your facts straight. The snooker champions who had a go at pool were very competitive (on world championship level) straight away, like Steven Davis, Mark Williams and now Ronnie O'Sullivan. The reverse transition (pool players showing up in the snooker world masters) has not been the case. O'Sullivan does give Wu a run for his money. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to draw some conclusions here...

[@bungal251]

Yes, the size of the ball and pockets is a problem. I use to play a snooker play from England in Baguio, Philippines. We keep coming out even and I had to play my best. It was either 8 ball or 9 ball. I loved his stick and how it was tappered at the end. He let me try it several times and it gave me better control.

[@bungal251]

The last time he let me use it he said last time I will let you use it! Ha.

[@bungal251]

Virgil Koon I think the English snooker player was teaching English at the Korean School in Baguio. I was also asked at 36000 peso a month.but it would interfere with my billiards! They removed my billiard hall there right after Manny, the world champ boxer bought the gym there. Sad as it was only 6 KM from where I was staying in the country. My usual player was manager of the mall and was very good!

[@LeonFleisherFan]

Weird miscue by Ronnie - tried to do something extra? If so, then unnecessarily. His break's improved, even if still looks nowhere as natural (nor is nearly as powerful) as Wu's. Two great players, thanks so much for uploading this match!

[@arcnhn2410]

"page not found" my friend

[@BarkingAkai]

next time, please upload a higher quality please

[@klaudiagrob]

I like both snooker and pool. I don't know how to play snooker yet but I know how to play pool. I'm quite good at it. It's true that snooker is more challenging. Pool can be as well.

[@neuvocastezero1838]

Was this a final or semi-finals match? How far did Ronnie get?

[@ponjoss]

don't allow tolerance? what do you mean. there are times in pool that the ball will hit the cushion in between the holes and still go in..

[@32KOAST]

@PeterOwen88 well, they're not playing snooker now are they ?

[@Romaniauser78]

THANKS!!!!

[@111LoneStar]

Anyone wants to see The Rocket at his blistering best just type in Ronnie o'sullivan fastest 147 ever.A 147 is the higgest break you can make in snooker, ronnie did it in just 5 mins and 20 seconds. Amazing

[@MDKaifyTauheed]

Ronnie is still the best...his shots were classic , unlike Wu who got lucky.

[@snoopdogg111000]

I'd love to see O'Sullivan VS Stalev

[@SnareBuff]

And I refer to my own: anyone with knowledge knows that each game has their own give and take in terms of difficulty. In snooker, the longer distance goes to speed control, a thing you adapt to when you play the game. You make it sound as if it's near impossible to play position in snooker and you don't even have to think in pool.

[@Apektuah]

Very well said. To me, pool is more of a game in Pubs, whereas, snooker requires more skills and concentrations.

[@metsrdabest]

cod master and a snooker king? u r a beast scoobs!! :)

[@davidvilla0908]

as a rocket fan, it is so hilarious to watch him play pool especially when he hits the packs so hardly with his body jumped.

[@arcnhn2410]

And 3rd, Efren Reyes has been my idol for many years, you don't have to "introduce" him to me. But the thing is, I've never seen a video of him playing snooker, I've searched all youtube, if you have one, please upload it and I'll be very appreciated. 4th, snooker abilities can't help anyone in playing better in pool, and I didn't say that, I repeat that each game requires each types of technique, if in snooker it's inch perfect in cueing, in pool it's rhythm and positioning

[@mowiejj]

U guys can say what ever u like, but ronnie o'sullivan is the most talented player in snooker pool and all billiard games. He's just one of those persons tht are meant to do only one thing, and they do it fkn good

[@BigDave297]

That's true. I play British Pool in Blackball rules, and I tend to play snooker to work on my aiming accuracy. And it pays off, once you go from a snooker table to a pool table for a match, potting is made easy :).

[@zss123456789]

吳珈慶萬歲~ GOGOGO TAIWANESE GO GO TAIWAN!!!! ya i know this video is an year old but I still get my blood pumped up when i watch this it's so epic~ I'm love playing pool it's so relaxing yet can be the hardest

[@wihasta]

since ive played both i can say for a fact that i find snooker a lot more difficult and not just because the pockets are smaller and tighter

[@tfn105]

Also, this match really swung on the O'Sullivan miscue in frame 6. It was neck and neck up to that point

[@dongchinchin]

um no. 3 cushion billiards have the best positioning BY FAR and russian billiards has the hardest shots.

[@ryankelly2109]

Keeping control of the cueball is a vital part of snooker and snooker is for more technical, you have nothing as mentally taxing as a high quality safty battle.

[@nkro]

wow o'sullivan comes back and wins it all! one of the greatest comebacks ever!

[@WolfieTed]

I agree. I have to be carefull how I say this now :P As a snooker player of 20 odd years and a 9-ball player of about 12 I do think that 9 ball has the element of luck to it, if the balls break well in 9-ball and it's a few shots to run out. Snooker requires a hell of a lot more game. You are 100% right though, the entry level for pro snooker is out of reach for some great players who just can't quite cross that "line" where 9-ball allows players more by the way of forgiving wide shots.

[@dongchinchin]

is it true in england snooker is free in pubs? i just talked to somebody from there and thats what they said

[@boomyakasha]

@lksong2041 I agree that safety play is a lot more difficult in 9 ball. However in snooker you have to play red, colour, red and so on. There's also the need to canon the reds when also trying to pot a coloured ball, whereas in 9 ball you break the balls at the beginning. The amount of spin and power that needs to be inflicted on the cue ball in order to canon the reds in such a way which spreads them well and doesn't leave you chineased in the middle of the pack is a lot more substantial.

[@dothequack]

did the... he called Ronnie O'Sullivan, thee greatest snooker player of all time, "son". show some respect man

[@vincentwu5981]

@PeterOwen88 i wouldn't disagree that a snooker match can more easily identify the better player. for 9 ball players, they have to prove it through out their career. its like poker, there's a lot of luck involved, an amateur can beat a professional on any given day, but the professional will edge out int he long run. i would say 3 cushion billiards does a better job than snooker or 9 ball in eliminating the luck factor, would u agree?

[@omartron]

7:53 "That little walk there was just to gather himself" ...no it wasn't haha, he was checking out the angle :p like you're meant to haha

[@TheycallmeMrWonka]

Yeah I thought the same thing. I'm just so used to them doing it in Snooker, I was like, eh, he's just doing what players always do checking their shot.

[@greatcolosso13]

The best Player of the world!!

[@Abnsdllnnlosnfd]

14:17 Uhuhuhuhu he said "long and hard"

[@robthesamplist]

To all americans - its snooker, not snoker.

[@tfn105]

... than the object ball (which completely alters potting angles and how the ball reacts to backspin/topspin), and given the relative size of the balls to the table, positional play can be quite tricky too.

[@barcellos3562]

"The only mistake was in the first rack, the 2 ball.......... UNTIL NOW"

[@fastballonly]

dongchinchin is telling you that it is pointless to determine which game is harder solely by virtue of pocketing, but it involves a number of other aspects such as positioning, safeties, kick safeties etc.

[@animeisfav]

i played recently actually. i kinda enjoyed learning it.

[@SnareBuff]

But what you're failing to acknowledge is that classical guitar vs electric guitar is almost identical in terms of playing field. There are the obvious differences, but the topic we're talking about is drastically different in nearly every way except putting balls into pockets. Keeping concentration over longer because of table and pocket size? For starters, the bigger table isn't the worst part of the whole thing, neither is the pockets. Because of the table size, you have larger areas to play

[@lfmm97]

Does anyone know why Ronnie's bridge hand was so much different to the way he bridges in snooker matches? Notice how he places his hand on the table with the middle and ring finger tucked in. What is the purpose of this when he spent his whole life bridging in a completely different way? Does it have something to do with the cue? I'm intrigued.

[@azaas]

amazing player!!!!

[@SnareBuff]

I'll give you one thing, shotmaking is difficult in snooker seeing as you have to judge more distance, but anyone that moves into pool recognizes that the balls roll differently, and playing position gets tighter. Try running high amounts in straight pool on a 9 foot table with 4.5 inch pockets. The avenues are alot tighter with much more "threading of the needle." By no means am I saying pool is tougher, but I AM saying that the games are each difficult in their own regard.

[@batman30351]

i think alot of people actually underestimate 9-ball. you can't say that snooker is "harder" than pool, the only thing that is more difficult in my opinion is mastering the accuracy needed. but positioning in 9-ball is actually alot more complex, many a time you would need inch perfect positioning if you want to have a smooth run, whereas in snooker it's mostly basic positioning, red colour red colour red colour, and the colours are on the same spots every time.

[@Veloxzr]

That commentator who keeps talking about snooker is so obnoxiously condescending.

[@arcnhn2410]

I agree with you, I've played both. Cleaning a pool table is a joke compared to a snooker table.

[@vincentwu5981]

@sumon93 exactly! plus short races in 9 ball really don't mean that much either. the snooker format makes it a lot more consistent for the better player to win more consistently because there are so many balls in one game. if this match was played to say 20 racks or so, it would be a much more dominant game for Wu

[@SquidInkUK]

Shame about the poor quality picture on this video

[@tfn105]

@lemonite1 ...potting angle and still make a useful angle. In snooker, there is almost no room to pinch a pocket. If you don't believe me, try potting down the rail on a 9-ball table compared to a snooker table. It will tell you everything you need to know about just how precise 9-ball potting is. Again, let me reiterate: I'm not saying 9-ball is a bad game (I really enjoy playing it), but snooker definitely trumps it for difficulty. Why do you think so few pool players make the leap over?

[@vincentwu5981]

@mrdarrencottam i would say though that snooker players transition easier to 9 ball, but the top 3 cushion players can very well play competitive 9 ball as well. the reason why few pool players transitioned to snooker is just that most of them don't have access to snooker tables or would have to go out of their way to practice. but i agree with u, respect both sports!

[@SnareBuff]

Let's have a comparison here. If what is being said is true, then A.) Small pockets mean more accuracy, B.) Bigger table means harder cueball control, and C.) Table size makes all the difference. Let's categorize a few things then. That would mean that English pool would fall in last with a tiny table, American pool would come next, then Snooker, and finally Russian billiards (considering the table is big, balls are big, and pockets are tiny).

[@dku001]

great game. snooker king vs. pool champion!

[@halfhead1004]

is itjust me or is the video lagging heaps?

[@storybehind9484]

Ronnie vs Efren should be the match

[@SSBsports]

If anyone knows which cue Ronnie is using here please message me.

[@Qatari-]

this game is all about the break, if ronnie knows how to break properly he will be unbeatable

[@jonathantong1222]

Its snooker, thats the american pronunciation. In my opinion, much much harder and really, a proper game that exercises your brain.

[@111LoneStar]

Just want make clear i'm not saying ronnie isn't great, his natural ability at snooker and even at billiards in general is fantastic. How many players out there are world class using both their hands (right and left handed play), hes not even ambidextrous he just taught him self to play with both hands, he's a genius. But billiards comes in many different and quite specialized forms, no one person can possibly be the best at them all no matter who they are.

[@siimlootus8014]

Is it just me, or does the white ball flinch before the shot at 24:07?

[@SnareBuff]

Snooker players are tremendous shot makers, but that doesn't constitute any degree of comparison when it comes to talent, knowledge, or prowess. Shotmaking won't get you out of every hole. Making long shots and aiming at a small hole is one thing, but when you're cheating the pocket (knowingly risking a miss) and forcing the cueball to go a certain direction for your next ball, there's no way to take any difficulty away from that.

[@dku001]

@Saint7781 So, what's your point? Are your saying O'Sullivan can beat Wu playing pool? That's not the case we see here.

[@gavbag1234]

@MrSmartComment Your name suits you well my friend, it's in the related videos actually, and I've seen it before, awesome stuff!

[@LeonFleisherFan]

@dfstarborn I see now! You're playing pool on bar tables and think it's easy, because making a straightforward pot (I'll admit that) is no big deal. Now then, enlighten us: how many racks of 8-Ball or 9-Ball can you run there in a row?

[@billsmith8825]

Making the balls... easy. Getting position... not so much. Have to be much more exact.

[@janeliasen]

Quality not really good enough - often the balls on the table get messed up.

[@mixsynth]

The poor quality of this video encoding means the shots are near impossible to follow.

[@tfn105]

@lemonite1 Also, the best snooker players never take on 'difficult shots' - as you put it - because they are world class and their positional play is second to none. Losing position in snooker is a snowballing effect: you _just_ creep away from ideal position (say, the wrong side of the blue), and all of a sudden your position deteriorates on the next shot, and soon you are out of position entirely or missing a toughish pot. In 9-ball, the pockets are so big that you can be either side of the...

[@blu3collar949]

Ronnie was kicking ass when he was 14 so I doubt he was worried about a junior in high school.

[@catweasle5737]

These pockets must seem huge to Ronnie.

[@Csut555]

Can a specialist in snooker dominate in pool? Yes. Can a specialist in pool dominate in snooker? I don't think so. Whether you like it or not snooker is a harder game. The table is twice the size, the rules are harsher. If you're at the top at snooker, with a bit of table time you're at the top in pool. It doesn't work the other way round.

[@crazypiikkis]

I love snooker elitists... Here's a piece of wisdom for you: In order to determine level of difficulty, you first need to determine a goal. The goal in all billiards is to beat your opponent. If something in the game itself is challenging, it's also challenging for your opponent and vice versa. Therefore the level of difficulty is not a quality in the game itself, but it is set by the skill level of your opponent.

[@budomushin]

Well I think the rules of pool are harsher depending on which game you play. Snooker is by far more mentally taxing!!!! But I'm not sure if you could just make such a blanket statement, that a specialist in snooker would dominate with more table time. I do agree with you about transitioning. I believe a snooker player would transition much more quickly but not necessarily dominate. A great example... google Steve Davis. Just because the table is twice the size doesn't just say yea it's easier. What people don't get is, the smaller the table the greater the traffic and the more you have to control the ball in a small area.

[@Gotwired]

Can a snooker specialist dominate at pool? No. Especially not at 9 ball because nobody dominates at 9 ball, not even the best players in the world.

[@Auron710]

i think it still requires a lot of skill but the commentator needs to watch ronnie play snooker. saying something is luck and guesswork suggests he doesnt know the degree of control that is required in snooker. tho im sure transitioning feels alien when u spend 99% of ur time playing another game. personally i enjoy all the "cue" sports but i prefer snooker tho i mostly play 8 ball pool

[@AngrierGorilla]

"Can a specialist in snooker dominate in pool? Yes." Never seen one. It's just your opinion, not a fact.