BE'LAKOR UNLEASHED - A Buggy but Awesome Battle - Daemons of Chaos vs Cathay - Total War Warhammer 3

[@alexf1353]

>"Deliberately not going for a particularly try hard build in this one" >Brings an army of mostly Nurgle units Sheesh, Nurgle's only been burned that bad by the God-Emperor of Mankind before.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

Leave Nurgle alone!

[@InquisitorThomas]

Sickest Burn since Prospero.

[@cxfxcdude]

@@InquisitorThomas *sad Magnus noises*

[@RatboyW]

Indy: "Be'lakor is amazing, when he's not copulating with a Terracotta Sentinel anyway" Rule34 artists: "Are you challenging me?" Btw really glad you're pointing out the SSAO bug, I noticed it in the Ogre battle and YEESH

[@BigStou]

They still haven't fixed SSAO its been broken since WH1

[@XUndergroundRap]

@@BigStou shhhhhhh ;)

[@denharte8670]

Theoretical future patch note: -Flying units will now kill enemies BEFORE teabagging.

[@TaskForce-ql3bx]

16:08 look at where the Sentinel begins his charge and where belakor stand by the end of it, still gets hit.

[@Count.Saruman]

Be'lakor thinks he's playing Dark Souls 2.

[@stallingratt7468]

Thats just modern total war if you ever zoom into any battle you can see nobody actually hits each other they just swing at the air and do damage though the power of magic (and lazy devs)

[@chrisstanton70]

@@stallingratt7468 i miss the days of medieval 2 and shogun where you could zoom in and you see everyone actually having individual duels with each other

[@tominieminen66]

@@chrisstanton70 Individual duels while in a proper war? xD

[@chrisstanton70]

@@tominieminen66 ya like they are actually synced up fighting each other dodging, parrying, blocking etc. instead of just standing next to each other and swinging and doing the "i took a hit" animation

[@SidneyGutteridge]

Belakor looks sick! Those skulls on chains look a little goofy when they're always perpendicular to the wings hahah

[@mistrants2745]

Unreasonably annoyed by the lack of physics on the skulls on chains on Be'lakor's wings.

[@neverending774]

one of those "couldn't they have just not bothered with the chains at all" Reminds of the animations on the coatl.. sometimes feel like they may as well not even made it as awkward as it looks on the battlefield. Belakor isn't as bad but it's the same concept.

[@jaronmalone3945]

Is it unreasonable though?

[@mistrants2745]

@@jaronmalone3945 Well being annoyed by it isnt unreasonable i think. Whats unreasonable is HOW MUCH im annoyed by it :P.

[@joemagill4041]

Can see the same with some Tzeentch and Nurgle units where they have tongues and other gribble that just sort of hang awkwardly and clip through the rest of the model. Also applies to the Keeper of Secrets cloak, which while accurate to model doesn't actually take into account the model is doing that to invoke movement that it can't by, you know, moving.

[@neverending774]

@@joemagill4041 or how Archaon's shield would clip through his body. You'd think one of the big stars of at least TWW1 would have a bit more care put into the modeling and animations

[@neverending774]

3:50 look at the skulls on chains on his wings, they didn't let them animate so it looks absolutely terrible haha

[@zer-ok9sn]

Yeah that's pretty weird looking lol

[@TheTyukodi]

That's kinda pathetic considering what they have done with the animations this game.

[@neverending774]

@@TheTyukodi one of those "couldn't they have just not bothered with the chains at all" Reminds me of the coatl, the animations were never 'fixed', and probably because the unit just looks weird on the ground and I don't even know how you could even fix it

[@milkandcookiesTW]

I didnt notice lol

[@neverending774]

@@milkandcookiesTW It's not a huge thing, I just don't know they put them in if they weren't gonna animate them

[@shaengar7440]

Attack Animations have always been one of the biggest issues with this game. Even in TWW II big single entities would often just stand in front of each other without getting an attack animation in. Ever had Heavy Cav chase down a routing unit and instead of killing it, you watched them politely escorting the enemy to the edges of the battlefield? Most frustration came with Heroes or Lords on Horseback trying to finish of a hero or lord on foot. They literally just run circles around them never attacking them. But it doesn't stop there. Why are halberds so ineffective against single entity monsters and so effective against cav? Because when a Monster pushes through the infantry formation of the halberd it will kind of shove the models aside, and most of them will not attack even if standing right next to the monster. They just watch and admire it. I never undestood why this was not given more attention by CA.

[@bubyCZ]

Because a casualized audience just faps under the table over powercreeped doomstacks ... you expect too much from a casual wide audience... Sadly, gaming is not niche anymore and people that would demand some kind of quality are in the dire minority... Just look at how people cry in manufactured "Fantasy vs Historical" BS, instead of pushing for fixing dire issues with the series overall ... meanwhile CA blacklisting any constructive criticism and bathing in preorder money...

[@Wardemonxi]

Now I understand why the Chaos Gods were so upset with Belakor when he asked them for even more power.

[@Max-zs6ur]

First of all, thank you for exposing things like the SSAO and other issues. Not every content creator have the guts to do such stuff. 2nd, have you tried disabling SSAO and enabling the new "Screen space shadows"? That may fix the SSAO issue while looking more "shadowed" than the flat no SSAO.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

yeah Screen Based Shadows is on by default, I havent disabled it. I took SSAO off for this battle cuz it made me sad. WH3 does seem to look better than WH2 with no SSAO, but tbh not really sure what the visual difference between Screen Space Shadows on and off is or how much impact it has

[@Max-zs6ur]

@@milkandcookiesTW For the SSAO bug I have a potential idea on how to partially fix it with a lighting mod. (I did the Ultimate lighting mod and I have a sort of idea on how to reduce ssao artifacts). But the Flickering issue you big guys really need to push CA for fixing it, because it is tied into the map. It is in some WH2 maps aswell (Barak Varr for example) and it can be fixed only while building the map, basically only CA can. I hope other streamers will be vocal aswell about this because this game is the pinnacle of the series and it cannot be spoiled by some permanently bugged maps. Thank you for being one of the best streamers out there (both ethically and content-wise)

[@Eaon69]

@@Max-zs6ur bless your little heart

[@ThijsSchrijnemakers]

my favorite moment is when the footsoldiers are toyed with by the Seekers from both sides. Love the mobility. Don't tempt me, mr N'kari

[@Xavis0]

The skulls on chains on Be'Lakor's wings sticking straight out as he flaps looks so weird/bad. One of those thing that I'm sure looked awesome on concept art, but doesn't work great with animated models.

[@PartisanGamerDE]

The whole model is kinda underwhelming. His face looks straight up bad, neither like the old nor like the new tabletop model. Also his head as a whole seems too big for his body. It's a miss with this particular character model. Hopefully CA will get back to him and King Mobility Scooter and redo them. If not the modding community has to fix it.

[@theovertaker40]

I didn't notice it to you said something. Damn you

[@tmac-hd8nb]

Damn might as well just remove him with these complaints

[@shanemczane6725]

I wish undivided daemon units had an all around black color pallete for Belakor's faction; might not be loreful but would set them apart visually from the usual reds, blues, greens, and purples!

[@milkandcookiesTW]

I'd be down for a different color scheme for them! maybe not all black, but something to set them apart would be cool

[@adrianhultman6236]

@milkandcookiesTW How about a dark gray main colour scheme with accent colours on the units from their original gods? Edit: spelling

[@jebnordost7487]

The skulls on Bel‘akors Wings look funky when he is in flight… did you have cloth-physics enabled?

[@certifiednard2543]

My favorite thing about Indy is that he is never afraid to give an honest take on games. I love Total War Warhammer and it’s great to have creators in this community who don’t mind being critical of the things we’re spending money on.

[@vincebat]

Very interesting gameplay of Miao Ying, she's a crazy and powerful lord. She fight against Belakor in dragon form and just go in human form to health, protected by his army.

[@Count.Saruman]

She seems great for sure. The closest comparison being the High Elves, it's like having Imrik and a life Mage all in one, more cost-effective character, with more protection against missiles. Very, very dangerous.

[@west-vf7qj]

Yeah they completely ruined the storm theme of the character to give her lore of life spells so she would be op in multiplayer. Pretty lame if you ask me

[@deadlyydude5522]

@@west-vf7qj yeah she should definitely have lore of heavens

[@RexorInvicta]

Be'lakor looks badass! I personally can't wait for Nagash.

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

What is a daemon to a god?

[@daddypudding9074]

@@mcmarkmarkson7115 *Ursun cries in his pain prison*

[@jebnordost7487]

The cannon bug seems pretty easy to fix, possibly just forgot to attach an attribute. I hope they find a good solution for the flyer-bug. They probably want the lord to "three point land" into the enemy unit, which sounds cool, but just doesnt work against a giant animated stature

[@JJoJam]

Idk if it would be the more complex implementation, but they could even turn off collision for the relevant units just to allow the flyer to land, then force the units slightly apart before turning collision back on. It's a game, so they can just break physics if necessary. In any case, I hope it's at least a day one patch, if not fixed before release.

[@crazyc481]

Your Seeker play makes me jump up and down screaming delightfully

[@calebolds9609]

I understand why its not the case, but God I would kill for new Be'lakor to be the model base for the game

[@jonathanneel6169]

I’m really hoping that Be’lakor gets added to the Warriors of Chaos roster. It would be nice for them to have a new lord and it would be cool to be able to see Be’lakor in ranked.

[@charlesman8722]

15:36 Soul grinder: Oh nononononononono!!*skuttles away*

[@Cybvep]

I absolutely love the way the Slaneeshi cavalry moves around the battlefield. It's almost enthralling. They will be backline killers.

[@roaldkamman1091]

Be'lakor with sword of khaine is going to be nuts.

[@casparvandeursen7125]

Units that are chasing/charging not attacking has been a problem ever since TW:W1. Being knocked down on the charge should cause your melee defense to temporarily be zero, and you should remain to be targetable while lying down and getting up. Instead, it's god mode activated! Nice video, this is definitely a new interesting form of the clunky combat mechanics.

[@wesliechung3216]

You said guan dao pretty good :). Great vid, the battle looks fun despite the flying bug.

[@sirgo0se97]

While on one hand having these kind of bugs this close to launch is concerning, the fact that certain people with the power to influence CA are making them known is really helpful for the big bug fixes just after the game comes out. I’m glad that content creators have been able to play the game early not just to build hype but to make the early weeks of the game’s release smoother

[@Wildboy789789]

During a turin livestream yesterday kairos got stuck flying on the ground too, but he was stuck on a building and it was all game

[@jarlsunshot5542]

That Belakor bug where he couldn't attack the Terracotta sentinel happened to me today too, Skarbrand kept bugging out targeting my Nurgle Herald on Palanquin

[@Max-zs6ur]

Also, the flickering bug where in some WH2 maps too "Barak Varr" and "Sulphur RIver" and was never fixed.

[@Keketin]

First time seeing content from you, seems pretty nice so far! Keep it up. :D

[@milkandcookiesTW]

Thanks, will do!

[@sevenayashinedown1283]

Cool battle, Cathay had a strong start but micro seemed to collapse halfway through, Cathay seems like one of those micro heavy factions where you need all your units in just the right spot.

[@Ender240sxS13]

Dude those wings, like clearly sooo many bones/joints in there to get them to move like that, and they couldn't spare a few for those dangly skull chains to make them move just a little more believably??? Or like just remove them? They look ridiculous when he's flapping about.

[@nyanko2077]

Freaking crazy bugs there. I hate the SSAO particularly cause it's been plaguing warhammer for a long while now. And yeah, as a khorne player, seeing the single entity flyer fighting bug doesn't please me at all.

[@Jordan-ob7nz]

Oh, it has been plaguing CA games in general. You see the SSAO issues in Three Kingdoms, they are even more egregious there. There are mountains of forum threads on it, so it is clear that CA are purposefully ignoring it for whatever cheapskate reason.

[@Drabo7]

great fight! really enjoyed watching it

[@michalkrasnodebski8709]

SSAO again...I really doubt they gonna fix it, similar problem was in three kingdoms not mentioning older warhammer tittles

[@G1ingy]

So here's something I don't like about Cathay. In TW Warhammer, guandao infantries exists. Guandao's exist. And they're on SKAVENS of all things. Where are Cathay's guandao units? How is it possible for this game to have guandao, and it not be in the china faction? Why does only the terracotta sentinel have it?

[@UnreasonableOpinions]

Welp, looks like we'll be waiting hard for a Day One patch. It's good to get these things out there so they get attention and resolution - it's well and good to have people working on content and extras but a stable game is the most important thing.

[@QuestionableObject]

Love to see that the big lad is playable after all

[@ian2372]

With all the hype on the other factions I've been disappointed with the coverage. Glad you're covering this one. Belakor is probably my favorite from the lore. This is the one I'm the most excited for. Those skulls on his wings though should probably just be deleted. They look jank as fuck when he's flying. Anyways for the landing bug, couldn't you just have him attack the ranks of infantry nearby and then walk to engage the cathay sentinel? Also, I'm curious how you think the OG factions from the first two games will mesh with the new on the eventual ME campaign map. As the unwritten law goes with total war. The side that has the largest army usually wins. You were outnumbered three to one. I don't think this reflects poorly on the daemons.

[@synx5196]

Damn I wish they used the AOS Belakor model

[@kmsgneisenau436]

the opening showcase of this video is exactly why i don;t pre-order games anymore, unles there's word these things are fixed in the next 4 days I'll wait with this one till they're fixed

[@moonspear]

didn't CA say that if you manually land your flying units and then charge in ground form, you get a better charge bonus? how much stronger is it when you do that?

[@cheesus7672]

Maybe they should have put more work into Be'Lakor and revealed him with Mortal Empires

[@SidRulz100]

You know a chaos being means business if he's powerful enough to bug your game. Be'lakor ain't no one's fool here.

[@insultinsultan705]

Belakor the Terracotta Frotter

[@steeltrap3800]

Some good illustrations of why I always get rid of shadows. I don't care about their aesthetics when they cause problems.

[@jamesw7565]

I don’t expect bugs like this for last of Warhammer trilogy

[@GlamdringandOrcrist]

Skill tree in campaign………..cuz he doesn’t have one! Ha! I see what you did there 🥴. For real though it will be disappointing IF Bel’akor ends up like Todbringer/Red Duke. Also have to leave my videoly complaint about why doesn’t Miao shoot lightning when she can in combat animations 👍❤️ Great vid Indy as per usual

[@wyverngaming3468]

Great battle, was a lot of fun even when the bugs put a bit of a damper on things!

[@Wisdomisgood448]

Belakor needs to be playable 100%. I'll be very disappointed if they don't make him a legendary lord with his own special faction and setup.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

I'm sure he will be made playable in campaign at some point

[@ragnarokivae6136]

I love the Kislev faction but I hate that the armored kossars and the tzar guard look nearly identical. Tzad guard should get a unique badass design

[@Rewwgh]

Miao Ying is slowly becoming my new favourite magical girl

[@jms3942]

All the new units and fractions are so cool. But you definitely expect more from the battle AI. Those units were just standing there like puppets when getting attacked. This is a 2022 total war game and it still feels like a 2017 game.

[@QuestionableObject]

Hopefully these bugs get fixed if not before launch then very soon after, at least the major ones like the flying charge bug

[@Linhliny]

Did I just miss it, or is the screeching sound no longer present at the start of a pendulum cast?

[@Campaigner82]

First I thought it was a campaign battle. Then when I heard it was multiplayer I was sure you’d smoke him with like 80-20. I sure was surprised at the result!

[@ands1983]

Animation on Belakors wings is more like feathered wings than skin wings. Animators should study bat wings to find the right movement.

[@Mithguar]

seams like easy work around to flying bug is to just manually land your unit before charging in.

[@cloverdog85]

I wish that would bring back shield walks and loose formations

[@ironicbadger2]

You added the three kingdoms music to the background, right? Would be strange if they just recycled that into Warhammer 3.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

right, i put all music in during editing/post. as I do not have the mp3 files for Warhammer 3s soundtrack yet, it has hard to use them

[@JordanR]

Thanks for covering this Indy. Was this bug the result of a recent patch or has it been present the entire time? I'm just curious why nobody else has covered this so far

[@AntonStunts]

Are they planning to include dwarfs later in the game?

[@funkyfox9457]

i just wished that Be'lakor hade he new model but still cool to see him in game

[@HolyRedEye]

Are these bugs still around? Want to know if it’s my monitor or the game itself since I do have the ASUS P32UDCM since it’s know to flicker on dark colors

[@Fearls1]

Lets all hope they release a patch before the game drops because that is hard to watch!

[@willfeen]

Why did the damn Iron Hail Gunners still have nearly all their ammo at the end :/ they seem hard to even get them to shoot... and there were multiple large targets and opportunities for them!

[@MrHiglon]

How long does the blood of the blood god dlc usually take to release? Kinda feel like this iteration needs it the most.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

usually 1 month after launch

[@Arhatu]

A very interesting battle indeed.

[@alexanderstanfield5845]

Seems like the play is to just have your flying lords and greater daemons land at the start of the battle so they can actually fight without jank

[@manfIesh]

love your vids

[@henryviiifake8244]

When you're dealing with all 4 Chaos Gods, both Nurgle's bugs 🦠 and Tzeench's bugs 🤓🧑‍💻 are bound to make themselves known.

[@sepalmq1229]

why are the skulls hanging of be'lakor's wings not affected by gravity XD

[@TheDarthbinky]

Do summoned units still "degrade" over time like in TWWH2?

[@nathanwright5496]

Reverse spiderman position go! 😂🤣

[@wvp_sleepy6903]

So, when u unlock Be'lakor will he get is own Faction the next time time u start a New campaign?

[@Guaguadeath]

Holy shit I didn't even know they'd put him in the game at launch! But Wait so do we get to use him in campaign??

[@zombiefolklore]

Yes, he's an unlockable lord for finishing the main quest. Available to all factions.

[@RMZ1989]

He doesn't have a faction, you cannot start the campaign with him, he is not a Legendary Lord.

[@MrKingkez]

Hmm i hope they fixed the gate glitch as well that is my bane in 2 like every time something slips threw and is just mulched and no one hits the gate

[@TheWintersDragon]

I get that Mao ying is the better lord choice cause she has healing, but not going to lie would like to se some Zhao ming matchs to see how he preforms

[@milkandcookiesTW]

and you shall!

[@Vietnam_Chr0nicles]

Im still wondering what happens to warriors of chaos faction?

[@PartisanGamerDE]

Id think they will split them up and roll them into the different factions and undivided. Together with bringing all the missing faction specific chaos warrior variants to the game.

[@thewonderfullymadejaraid7015]

Do you think that there is a way to balance Chaos Undivided? It's a shame that such a cool faction that had so much hard work put into it can't even be played in competitive multiplayer.

[@2ndhendrix631]

Awesome game !

[@GwyndOwO]

So is Belekor like a more expensive and powerful version of Mr. Sex kitten or Sir Angee man?

[@princeowiredu2022]

Maan now everyone gets stronger and stronger with each kill. Don’t worry skarbrand it shall be well

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

Great battle! But should have ignored the sentinel and rout their infantry instead with Belakors ability and clean up the routing units with the fast Slaaneshi cav. Still this way was probably more entertaining!

[@farright118]

How many of the chaos forces are made up of moral in the lore? And when you die to you end up being reborn as a choas warrior or something

[@GabaGhoul0]

Is the lighting bug with some warhammer 1 characters portraits just as bad? Hope vlad finally got his facelift

[@d3lverofsecrats193]

Does the presence of Belakor mean there is actually 10 legendary lords with boris, not just the 9 initially announced?

[@ЕгорНевежин-о7ю]

There are at least 11 legendary lords in the game.

[@RMZ1989]

No, Be'Lakor is just unique lord, doesn't have his own faction and you cannot start campaign with him. He can be played in MP custom battles. There are 12 LLs. 3 Kislev 2 Cathay 2 Ogres 5 from Daemons

[@ninon.91]

Do you think belakor will be available for the campaign later?

[@milkandcookiesTW]

yes very likely

[@joshmilner4864]

I'll deal with visual bugs but the landing attacks need fixed and the re mount mechanics should be very easy fix. But most importantly I'm more worried about some balance issues I see. Ironblasters, regen sheilds, spell damage on 2-3 spells, and I'm sure there is plenty more not even found yet.

[@GabaGhoul0]

Yea there’s definitely some wild rebalancing that needs to happen, but I have no doubt that will get ironed out in time (along with the introduction of new bugs and balance issues lol)

[@Tharosthegreat]

How do ya get to play as Belakoor?

[@DaThingOnTheDoorstep]

I wonder if you just have to manually land units before charging them in... until that bug is fixed anyways.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

maybe

[@Pandarian300]

man those toads were useless in this battle

[@VictorRodriguez-vs4lb]

The glitching could be a scaling issue

[@jasonbing8720]

Wait so you can Belakor in campaign too? I was told he was custom battle and multiplayer exclusive

[@lordwellingtonthethird8486]

Don't think he has a campaign no

[@tada8288]

He doesn’t have a campaign he joins your faction as a lord once you beat him in the campaign.

[@Wardemonxi]

Is there some issue or bug with N'kari? Is that why no one is using him in multiplayer?

[@milkandcookiesTW]

not really, he is good. But if you've seen my N'Kari campaign video, it had a few moments where he had issues targeting specific enemies on the chase. Like a 20+ second period where he was in melee range of a Blood Shrine with an attack order, but wouldnt attack it. Kind of a similar targeting issue that happens off and on since at least Warhammer 2. Its sometimes harder than it should be for single entities to attack other single entities or chariots that are moving away from them

[@Skeleton-chan]

@@milkandcookiesTW I've been playing a Taurox campaign and noticed he gets this a LOT. Chasing down a lord or hero and not swinging for 10-15 seconds straight even though he outruns them.

[@verdantagent]

@@milkandcookiesTW Isn't that the same bug that causes all chariot heroes and lords to push fleeing single entities to safety?

[@dembro27]

Mmm, that Day 1 patch is gonna be CHUNKY. (I hope).

[@CptThorndo]

Khorne is always represented in Warhammer

[@jamesschmames6416]

you need to put a strobe warning on this video. I've never been affected by similar things before but I noticed an effect while viewing this video.

[@fisch3392]

so he is playable normally in MP?? or is he another coeddil??

[@Jordan-ob7nz]

He can be used in MP but not ranked MP as I understand it.

[@brasswing2681]

@@Jordan-ob7nz yes, I believe in custom

[@darthplagueis13]

He's another Coeddil. Which is fair enough because he would otherwise be one of those units that cannot be balanced properly because he's just too loaded with stuff. He'd either be so unreasonably expensive that you couldn't bring him, or if he was anywhere near affordable he'd be OP.

[@fisch3392]

@@darthplagueis13 I mean I’m cool with cost balancing OP I just want to be able to play him. From the videos and rankings I’ve seen he’s not that OP to begin with

[@darthplagueis13]

@@fisch3392 Well, you'll have to play custom battles then cuz he's not available in ranked. The entire mixed daemon faction isn't.