Gamers Caught Cheating - Part 2

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[@cattameme]

I remember getting banned in ICE Vixens chat for calling her out. I'm glad somebody was able to do it.

[@BeAmazed]

well done for calling her out! hero 😎

[@bitonic589]

@@BeAmazed wow its u edit: why the heck are so many people liking this

[@SomeRandomYouTuber_]

You are a hero sir

[@alexandervos9428]

You the guy simping for stargirl?

[@Indra-x3w5z]

@frostspiritgaming111 fire fire fire fire fire fire fire fire

[@zishlol]

Nick didn't cheat, in fact he followed the rules exactly. The rules said if you land outside the landing zone, you get a warning. All he did was go for the warning. I don't see how that is even in the same realm as aimbotting and wallhacks.

[@williamchromebookpeterson]

exactly my thought!!

[@cosmo3912]

exactly bro

[@TerribleSimRacer]

I was coming to comment this exactly. I knew the story as soon as he started, and I was shaking my head saying "Nah. Slimy? Yeah. Cheating? No."

[@petorasuke]

Yup, i was thinking the same thing. He didn't break any rules

[@voltronzx8770]

Yeah I agree

[@TheBigSlippy]

Charity guy didn't cheat, he just took advantage of poorly thought out tournament rules.

[@vertgodrory7716]

thats what im saying its not cheating if they say it is a warning that means he gets a free go outside the area

[@justabullyforfun7104]

Yeah your right

[@mckrackin5324]

Wrong. The rule says if you cheat once, you get a warning. It doesn't say it's not cheating. In my opinion, it's theft by fraud and should be prosecuted. He literally stole money from the other charities.

[@natel7382]

Imagine telling your GF your cheated on her but it was for charity. You were in a different country. Poor rules.

[@sergeantvirus2300]

hmmmmmm i can sense smort

[@TeraPlayzzz]

Things people hate online: cheaters, teamers, campers,and the people who just go afk for xp.

[@BootyGoblinesque]

Camping is a valid strat in a lot of games, I think it's fun going up against campers, or having to tip toe around areas to keep an eye out for them. Fun in BF5 watching people get pinned down by someone holding a really good position on a window. I don't usually do it but I do think it's fun and makes for interesting gameplay.

[@CJ_1406]

"Better to rage quit than cheat." - Me

[@mathiash9323]

Faaax

[@CJ-jh2xm]

😅🤣👍

[@DicedTea]

- An Important Quote Every Gamer Needs

[@moneyleast4632]

I did now i broke me laptop :(

[@wendigo8204]

You could have just said that instead of quoting yourself

[@bloodelfreku]

14:50 I mean… he isn’t wrong. They were allowed a warning. I’m not surprised they exploited something that wasn’t a disqualification

[@adlilzafri2322]

It looked more like taking advantage of a loophole than cheating to me

[@espygaming5101]

@@adlilzafri2322 Agreed. This is totally fine IMO. You played within the rules set. In hockey you get penalties for doing certain actions. Most of the time its not worth it, however when the opposing team has a break away and is 1vgoaling it can be highly advantageous to take a penalty cause a 5v4. Instead of a free shot, They call these "good penalties." You can choose to do anything that would cause a penalty and accept the consequences that is all they did in this instance.

[@CuteCatNamedFluffy]

Nick is nice overall he knew that isn’t cheating that’s why he did that for *A good cause* that is the point!he “cheated” for a good cause not for selfish money

[@EustaBAracer]

Exploiting a warning system isnt cheating. It's like in high school, we'd get 10 unexcused absences throughout the year before graduating would be put in jeopardy. Well, another way to look at it is that I get 10 free no-questions asked vacation days.

[@MrCarsong123]

i dont see it any differently than an intentional foul in basketball lulz

[@juanbonilla1744]

"If you're stupid enough to cheat, be smart enough not to get caught." Loved that lol

[@theguywhousedtocare]

I had once killed 17 player's in a row, then I got threatened of cheating even though I was not and got unnecessarily banned lol

[@ohHeyKev]

@@theguywhousedtocare Had that happen to me too but on Phantom Forces on Roblox. Never played it before but I am really good at FPS games so when a level 6 is wiping the enemy team. People tend to get suspicious, it never got serious but I had the entire team accuse me of cheating because “A level 6 gamer shouldn’t be destroying the entire team”

[@theguywhousedtocare]

@@ohHeyKev lol but wow! You wiped out a squad, always remember that haters means Having Anger Towards Everything Reaching Success

[@ohHeyKev]

@@theguywhousedtocare Haha thanks most were pretty mad and the hate continued on to the next couple of matches lol. But like I said it didn't get so bad where I was kicked but it was getting there haha

[@theguywhousedtocare]

@@ohHeyKev lol it happens bro

[@jefflewis9491]

I hate the fact that most hackers don't get banned but the tryhards and sweat gamer who grind continuous have to suffer through their hacking 😢😢😢 Love ur vid by the way ❤❤❤❤

[@holliday5516]

My friend was being accused for cheating in GTA 5 because there level was over 1000, my friend had been playing that game for years but this jealous person kept saying my friend was cheating

[@jamesbowen2088]

Not just the sweats and tryhards, imagine how many more "casual" type players spent money on a game only to get beat by cheaters every time they get a chance to play like after work or on the weekends or something. Then they would just quit playing and chalk it up to a loss of $70 on a game that's not even fun because cheaters ruined it. It really pisses me off to no end. I know Warzone is free, but as an example, my brother and I quit playing the 1st one altogether because it just ruined any and all fun.

[@TheIrishRushin]

​@@holliday5516 I hate the sore losers that are just really bad. They'll make it their life's mission to ruin you.

[@samc9133]

​@@TheIrishRushin Yeah sucks to be accused of cheating when you are just locked in that one day. I had a match like that in Halo Infinite once. What's really funny is, they were on my team the very next match, and I went SUPER negative KDR lol.

[@allanshpeley4284]

@@samc9133 Funny, I've never been accused of cheating even when I've had crazy strong games and dominated everyone else. People can generally tell the difference between good gameplay and suspicious gameplay.

[@Dimitris4110]

Thumbs up to Riot and Vanguard for banning the hardware of the cheater entirely. More companies should follow this practice.

[@ItsJustRuru]

Even though you can evade those HW bans now, by using an ID Spoofer

[@Dimitris4110]

@@ItsJustRuru Maybe. The point is I've been playing Valorant for more than a year and i haven't encountered a cheater yet. Their method works.

[@kuni7547]

@@Dimitris4110 LOL no... u just didnt notice or are very low rank.

[@Dimitris4110]

@@kuni7547 I'm diamond - immortal currently and can't progress any further because of people going AFK or people fooling around causing me to loose rank.

[@kuni7547]

@@Dimitris4110 Well then you encounter them everyday and just don't notice. Valo had cheaters before the game even fully came out.

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

"You don't need an aimbot to hit that subscribe button." *accidentally hits dislike button. Ye, gods, my aim is terrible.

[@TopSuperDude]

How could he have hit the like button if he just clicked on the page? Thats pretty sus if you ask me...

[@anormalperson1188]

@@TopSuperDude yeah ikr grey lookin sus

[@_Himanga_Kaushik_Baruah_]

Yikes, I just closed my goddamn browser (talk about being this bad at aiming)

[@matthewadair4612]

@@anormalperson1188 😏😏😏😏😏😏😱😱😱😱😱🤫🤫sus sus sus sus sus sus sus sus sus sus sus sus sus sus

[@matthewadair4612]

Yes

[@Andy-413]

"I don't know how those wallhacks got there" is equivalent to "No, Mom. This isn't a cookie from the cookie jar that's in my hand". LOL!

[@benzyb9746]

I agree Lmao

[@ATuneForTheCosmos]

It's like robbing a bank and walking out the front door, while telling the cops it was a withdrawal...

[@Antonio-ti3xo]

@@ATuneForTheCosmosfacts

[@akk-lp221]

It's like "The virus pulled my pants down! I swear."

[@weldyfungo8621]

@@benzyb9746 eueejj

[@everyonesguy7466]

The craziest thing in this video is , every hacker didn’t even become number one ranking in their games

[@quanghoang4342]

Number one makes you a hunting target for the community even more.

[@ejkr2051]

Because the best cheaters don't get caught .

[@SKY_252]

​@@ejkr2051exactly, I'm convinced at least half of those leaderboards are filled with cheaters

[@ASIANKID_DAOG12]

​@@ejkr2051Ong. Imagine some of those top 15 players are actually hackers but KNOW how to conceal themselves so well they don't get caught 😂

[@matts9371]

A word of advice for future game developers reading this, instead of banning cheaters, just create a special server to move them to without them knowing. Let the cheaters play with each other while still granting them the ability to spend money. Also make the bots god tier with all the best cheats. Or design that AI to be deep learning. But definitely force them against each other.

[@tkoqqhax3961]

Bro i love hvhs this is a great idea

[@kbyebleha2978]

oh like the soft-ban server for DS3

[@GryphStone]

Yeah, some games have done this and it's honestly a really good strategy. It gives the cheaters opponents of equivalent ability (each other) and keeps the normal players from having to deal with them.

[@syntex9673]

@@reinhard7164 its not actually, a lot of games have done this already

[@SIMKYUSHA]

What a great idea. I used to work for Activision and EA, and I know that the resources to do something like that could cost a fortune in people hours. Imagine QA testers working on perfecting the cheat sever mechanic. That would be so fun!!! Hopefully an indie dev could pull that off.

[@Doug_Fany]

13:46 He did not cheat though, he followed the rules. He landed outside, got a warning like the rules said... There was nothing saying it was prohibited doing it once.

[@Jotolink]

Yes, Its more so that he Bent the rules, and thought outside of the literal box. I can see how people would be mad if they are following the rules to a T but the rules did say just a warrning not get insta banned. I feel that was a legit strat on his point.

[@ZibbleDeWibble]

This is exactly what I was thinking! You basically gave me at least a single free landing outside the zone. Sounds like everyone could have done it at least once. If they didn’t want people to land outside at all make it straight prohibited. It’s hard to accidentally land outside that area.

[@Canlass]

no but he did tho they aren't allowed outside the rectangle they'll get a warning if they didn't notice they're outside so yeah he cheated

[@Canlass]

@@Jotolink nah he didn't "bent the rules" he literally just broke it the rule states to not go outside the box or rectangle and he went outside

[@Eqpesan]

@@Canlass Yep he broke the rules but in the same way as when you break the rules in football and get a yellow card.

[@clasicdemott5986]

That look on a cheaters face, when they realize they have been caught, is priceless.

[@michaelblair7141]

The live ban of Minininja was so satisfying to watch here, and I can only imagine how it felt in person!

[@Errxr_Cyn]

I'm sure they were fucking pissed and tried to pull that WHAT THE FUCK WHY DID I JUST GET BANNED I DID NOTHING WRONG If you know what I mean you know

[@loavy4007]

The fact that they can just make a new account is hilarious

[@hypnotoad28]

@@loavy4007 Yeah they don't hardware ban do they? :/

[@gunmman9912]

@@Errxr_Cyn q

[@felixbui9818]

timestamp?

[@perrybb2]

I think there's 2 kinds of cheaters: bored kids who think it's absolutely hilarious and make little to no attempt to hide it, and grown adults whose self-esteem is deeply tied to the game.

[@doboom7948]

sometimes you just wanna mess with your friends and troll them with hacks in a private game

[@black8thelement8008]

@@doboom7948 true there is nothing wrong privately imo....these people are con artist though. taking donations, completely fraudulent people... pathetic

[@martinbakunawa1240]

Adults were once kids so they are one in the same. A Cheater is a cheater, to think such feat is okay and gain fake fame, it's all about addiction for popularity.

[@nailedthepotato1941]

And then there are the third type, "the farmer" they cheat inorder tolevel up or rank up an account really quickly and then sell it online. Best example of this is r6s.

[@tinycnyc]

I remember back in the day when MW2 was a big I remember I hacked my PS3 I was giving everyone Prestige 10 I was giving them all their guns and I was putting people into games that were just completely ridiculous. All around I hacked game so that way other people can have fun. The most fun was when you activated and hack and other people were able to use it. I hacked for charity.

[@Rwdphotos]

People who get caught cheating should still be allowed to play the games, but only with other cheaters. Poetic justice is the best justice for cheating.

[@moorbish]

This. Add in long queue times in between matches.

[@Shiirow]

there are some games who do or did just that. having cheater only queueing.

[@backup2593]

Sounds like warzone's policy before Richochet

[@jerryboics9550]

If they make money from their streams, I'd like to see them charged with fraud

[@PC_Ringo]

Isn't this what VAC tries to do? :)

[@CrisRuelas]

Hahahahaha 7:56 "What next, is he going to start blaming Clara?" That just made me laugh for straight 5 minutes!

[@Apexl0l8495]

i laughed 2

[@eoin.]

did it really?...

[@Galaviste]

Damn it, Clara! 😠

[@wiedhathecrafter7508]

14:53 Dude did nothing wrong. In gaming, you have to be smart with your resources. If the first offence was just a warning, it can be used for an advantage, no different than anything else. I'm pretty sure there were others who did the same thing, they just didn't get caught talking about it on stream.

[@cyraliv.3764]

Yeah I agree, you know you get a warning use it to your advantage

[@banned-account]

He didn't use an outside program to give him an unfair advantage. I would argue that they didn't cheat.

[@buddmcstudd6994]

You can argue its scummy tactics but scummy tactics are allowed. If they dont want it in the future, then they shall give no warnings.

[@psychoaztecs]

@@buddmcstudd6994 or put in like a warning barrier that could kill in a certain amount of time just like in apex.

[@Jason-un9ps]

Yeah, I don’t consider that “cheating” at all. I’d say it’s being smart, analyzing the rules laid out, and working within them to get an advantage. They never said you CAN’T land outside of the zone

[@planchetflaw]

Anti cheating here. But, the charity one was just clever. That's maximising the rules to your advantage. If this were a professional sports organisation every team in the comp would sacrifice a warning for a better result. If they wanted to stop the practice of landing outside of a set zone, they'd make it a straight penalty without warning. For motorsport fans - think of it like track limits. You get issued a warning (or multiple warnings) before a bad sportsmanship flag before a penalty. If you're in a battle with warnings to spare, you absolutely use that to your advantage. The rest of the videos are clear-cut cheating.

[@sorn2866]

Exploiting the gray area and loopholes of the rules

[@DaroriDerEinzige]

I think, there's a difference between "cheating" and "exploiting". If you exploit the System, Rules or for an example the Game Mechanics - It's ain't cheating.

[@abandoned-z6v]

Exploiting is pretty much breaking the game in in one way or another but cheating is also exploiting cheating is anything that gives you an unfair advantage (autoclicker, cheat softwares, glitches, modifying game files) that is cheating but it’s only an unfair advantage if the other person isn’t doing the same thing you are for example if someone is bullying you they overpower you if they punch you and you don’t punch back that’s bullying but if you punch back now that “bully” is just a mean guy since nobody is overpowering eachother and what i am saying is that if you cheat on someone who is using cheats it’s not longer cheating because no one has an unfair advantage over eachother

[@procrasin1]

Yes, professional foul.

[@franciosdauteuil4626]

A definition of cheating since you struggle with it so much. Cheating: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. That isn't a loophole its cheating. A WARNING was given so that people making accidental mistakes aren't immediately punished not so you can intentionally plan to cheat and break the rule to gain an underhanded advantage. Just because everybody else FOLLOWS THE RULES doesn't make him right to cheat. Just because they aren't using additional programs to do their cheating also doesn't make them right to cheat. The fact is he gained an underhanded advantage by BREAKING THE RULES and INTENTIONALLY landing outside the allowable area and gain an unfair advantage by not getting shot at early on and giving them additional loot and equipment that other players did not have access to because they actually followed the rules and didn't cheat like him.

[@DWalk42171]

The "Charity Rule" stated you'd be warned on first offense, so he used it to his advantage. Not cheating, bending the rules a bit though.

[@CannotTolerate]

I totally agree

[@astakachupika2560]

From my understanding you're absolutely right and even if it would have been judged cheat by the tournament rule, he clearly didn't think it was cheat if he was so openly speaking about it. He was just trying to use the rule at the best of his advantage that's all.

[@flvjmp4261]

Exactly.. more of an exploit. Lol

[@Galaxierunner]

There weren’t even hacks used so it’s fine, bit dickish but still.

[@jojoversus1100]

Every one of you is THAT kid that only uses leg sweeps when playing a fighting game.

[@Knightstruth]

There is so much injustice in the world that it is therapeutic seeing cheaters caught like this.

[@oliverboorman1434]

Well cheating is basically the reason for the worlds ills. Education and intellect are not the same. They choose the easy option with their knowledge making them not so clever but inexperienced will not understand this.

[@SpokenBroke]

"you'll get a warning for breaking this rule" "OK, lets break that rule because a warning doesn't really hurt us" is NOT cheating, it is bad administrating

[@Foxtail190]

That's what I was thinking

[@outcastsociety8513]

facts

[@slupsker]

Facts

[@FRiKiNFRoG]

Thought the same..! Make a clear rule, a warning is a warning nothing more.

[@varsityreviews707]

That's what I was thinking. It's like in a game where there's a kill barrier. As long as you get back in before time runs out you're good.

[@dannyo512]

Like I’ve always said, “I would rather suck than cheat.”

[@LzLc-]

now that's my 2nd quote appart from "It isn't even a fight anymore, its an execution!"

[@eksdee_]

@@LzLc- "You're a raider, LEGENDARY!"

[@moshunit96]

Wish my ex felt that way. Lol.

[@andrewwatercave6979]

@@moshunit96 XD if you read that and say your ex said that thats a whole other level of the sentence

[@jimmythornseed8605]

I always tell myself I'd rather uninstall than cheat, and that is 100% true. Gun to my head someone tells me to hack in a game or break my PC to prove it, I'm throwing the tower into a swimming pool and leaving it there. Cheating is shame.

[@kevinoriordan7387]

I love it when cheaters do get caught. Personally, I don't think there is any lower kind of human being. I'm not talking murderers or rapist's or being a felon but every day life. When you compete you want it to be fair and win with your skills. You are no winner when you cheat.

[@stevenmusgrave3924]

lol i like this one yes there is nothing in common with those 3 well types of people but hackers kinda have something where if you get found out make it look like its someone elses fault

[@certifiedbrickbattler]

I want to eat these people

[@Pacelane5000.]

@@certifiedbrickbattler canibals!!!👀👀👀

[@felphero]

It's just people cheating on games, it's not nearly the worst kind of human behaviour out there. That said, seeing these people get caught is delicious. I'm so SOOO glad a bunch of them stream their shit

[@alphagunner8646]

Agreed

[@SevenBlades112]

After 5 parts of this series, I think Clara is the one responsible for catching all these cheaters.

[@crimsoncomet2209]

“I gotta call one of my Clara friends rq. Told her not to use hacks on my pc”😭😭. That ones a classic😂.

[@drako10m]

I think so you are lying

[@ToastedBreadWithHoney]

@@drako10m what ?

[@ttrroollttooll6911]

i know thar refrence..poor clara

[@crimsoncomet2209]

@@ttrroollttooll6911 😂😭😭

[@madkirk7431]

Lmao yeah

[@Grey_Warden_Invasion]

That charity thing wasn't even cheating. He was just exploiting what was within the rules. Being outside the area wasn't really against the rules, it was just costing them points.

[@suomiswagmodz5009]

@The Sociopath because it's riot games, they have been power tripping all this time

[@richardakasunny5977]

@The Sociopath but it’s literally not cheating so why would he even have to say anything about it. He did a play that cost him points

[@franciosdauteuil4626]

A definition of cheating since you struggle with it so much. Cheating: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. That isn't a loophole its cheating. A WARNING was given so that people making accidental mistakes aren't immediately punished not so you can intentionally plan to cheat and break the rule to gain an underhanded advantage. Just because everybody else FOLLOWS THE RULES doesn't make him right to cheat. Just because they aren't using additional programs to do their cheating also doesn't make them right to cheat. The fact is he gained an underhanded advantage by BREAKING THE RULES and INTENTIONALLY landing outside the allowable area and gain an unfair advantage by not getting shot at early on and giving them additional loot and equipment that other players did not have access to because they actually followed the rules and didn't cheat like him. An exploit is the same as cheating hence why in competitive anything you still get banned for cheating.

[@richardakasunny5977]

@@franciosdauteuil4626 your making such a big deal when all the money is going to charity. The people on it aren’t even getting anything from it. And if the shitty Fortnite rule makers really wanted to keep them inside then they should of just made banned to go out instead of just a mistake.

[@mqvanity4161]

@@richardakasunny5977 do people that cheat with hacks gain anything either? they just win the match and nothing else, just cuz the rules say that you get a couple of chances doesnt mean its okay to abuse that, and so what if all the money is going to charity, its just supposed to be fun and by cheating your ruining it for everybody else

[@WillyWZSouza]

15:00 That wasn't cheating, that was opportunity taken, the penalty was already clarified, land outside the green zone and you will get points off your total score, THAT was the penalty, they agreed to it, and went with it. Not a cheat, that was strategy.

[@otisthecow]

the only problem i have is it being a charity event

[@senorchonk2219]

@@otisthecow and he got more money for his charity event nothing too bad if you think about it

[@vichilfgalanida4010]

@@otisthecow and? it's still not cheating. Using the rules to your very advantage is literally not cheating.

[@wolfdeathnogames5314]

@@vichilfgalanida4010 still a dick move but not cheating that's for sure...

[@hengineer]

It's only cheating if you somehow are able to do it without getting a penalty.

[@STNeish]

Regarding the guy beating the odds... I have that problem all the time in games, and I can't explain it. Playing Lord of the Rings Online, I was crafting silver rings on my jeweler. Using various buffs, I got my chance of a critical success up to about 70%. That means I had a 70% chance of making a superior ring on each crafting attempt. After making 500 rings, I got ZERO superior rings. Playing Magic the Gathering (the first PC game, I don't recall the name), I built a 40 card deck with 16 mana. The odds of drawing 0 mana in the first 10 cards is pretty small. The odds of doing that 25 times in a row... it's a statistical impossibility, yet it happened OFTEN. The AI opponent, meanwhile, was drawing absurdly "lucky" combinations of cards allowing him to defeat me by the second turn (eg. Black Lotus and a forest, summons a Sprite, then drops 3 Giant Growths and a Berserk on turn 2... which the game did 12 times in one night of playing). There comes a point where you wonder how something that SHOULD be impossible keeps happening.

[@whatis4295]

Yes. I fully agree with the phrase, "As the gaming community knows, the only thing worse than cheating is cheating and still losing". In bedwars, I've taken out a few killaura cheaters through the use of spamming fireballs and it's always hilarious when I do succeed at killing them. Bonus if their bed is gone so they can't respawn!

[@muey5265]

nobody asked

[@livewellwitheds6885]

@@muey5265 public forum. don't like comments? get off the entirety of online! simple ;)

[@livewellwitheds6885]

@@muey5265 nobody asked u either

[@TheFi3nd]

@@muey5265 don't

[@muey5265]

@@livewellwitheds6885 cry about it

[@DngnRdr]

Love how they blame others when they get caught cheating or pretending they don't understand how they got there. So sad that they're that desperate to be liked or looked up to.

[@MattMussett]

😂🤣😂sad behaviour

[@jeremyday9056]

It's just like when you're driving and someone runs a light or cuts you off and then they throw their hands up like you're the one that did something wrong.

[@snatchadams69]

It was probably Clara

[@iamapokerface8992]

ok

[@matthewcote5634]

That's basic sociology.. Specifically while an individual is Streaming in real-time, knowing that there are many watching, it's natural human instinct to protect themselves in the immediate moment... What is truly sad is when in the aftermath, after having time to think on it, they still choose to do so, by lying instead of coming clean. The immediate reaction is understandable , the secondary reaction is unforgivable

[@renegadepyro726]

“Both hacks are expressly banned in Call Of Duty.” Probably the most unrealistic take out of this whole video seeing how they still haven’t done anything about it

[@trippincidwgudetama]

Yeah fr, they aren’t expressly banned they’re expressively used☠️

[@dawsongamblin5246]

they lock the hacker in the stadium now... bout it...

[@renegadepyro726]

@@dawsongamblin5246 Do they really? That’s pretty funny

[@Decoy303]

If people keep pumping in money for cosmetics or other meta shit the studio could care less. I'm an old Defiance ps3 player and know just how shady shit can get.

[@krob_]

10:35 is even more unrealistic. the player doesn't even kill the enemy, nor does he even hit the shots. but the narrator says so...

[@baskettbal]

Low key, I could listen to your voice for hours lol😂 Awesome Video.

[@kemicallx]

"I guess becoming a pro player just wasn't apart of his Destiny" Have to applaud that pun 👏🏾

[@evanbaker3578]

: )

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

A part, not “apart”

[@kemicallx]

Thank you, typo.

[@Joetoep]

Typo still exists.

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

@@kemicallx just doing my job👍

[@SARTAZ]

25:57 If you are one of those whose game has been ruined by those cheaters... Man you can feel this moment

[@Coleslaw97]

Agreed, RIP BO3

[@iplaygames1497]

@@Coleslaw97 what happened to black ops 3?

[@Coleslaw97]

@@iplaygames1497 nearly every team death match is hacked.

[@rompevuevitos222]

Hopefully valve fixes TF2 and we can remove it from this list

[@iplaygames1497]

@@Coleslaw97 what?!

[@HydenChronicles]

13:20 I think Nick played the rules. The rules said you'd get a warning so he used his free warning. Technically all the players had a warning they could have used. It's funny that he had a football player as his teammate because they use technicalities in professional sports to gain an advantage all the time. I'd give him a pass for being clever.

[@franciosdauteuil4626]

A definition of cheating since you struggle with it so much. Cheating: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. That isn't a loophole its cheating. A WARNING was given so that people making accidental mistakes aren't immediately punished not so you can intentionally plan to cheat and break the rule to gain an underhanded advantage. Just because everybody else FOLLOWS THE RULES doesn't make him right to cheat. Just because they aren't using additional programs to do their cheating also doesn't make them right to cheat. The fact is he gained an underhanded advantage by BREAKING THE RULES and INTENTIONALLY landing outside the allowable area and gain an unfair advantage by not getting shot at early on and giving them additional loot and equipment that other players did not have access to because they actually followed the rules and didn't cheat like him.

[@HydenChronicles]

@@franciosdauteuil4626 204 people disagree with you bud.

[@margot_78]

My son is an avid COD player, and I remember him being enraged when they’d kill him off so easily. Many seem to have been using cheating software or hacks. He never ONCE used any. I know, since I’ve watched him playing games myself, not just because I’m his mom and defending him. He’s got really good eye-hand coordination, even though he’s left handed.

[@nexesses1548]

I don’t think nick is a cheater though, he knew the rules and pushed them to its limits, he never broke them.

[@axxura5286]

agreed that was how the rules were set up so how is it cheating after all they lost the point for doing it

[@tyupchurch3423]

Yea

[@tyupchurch3423]

No offense to be amazed but he acts like nick is a bad guy a little bit

[@Johsther]

@@tyupchurch3423 I do think he just goes with the (fortnite) community's reaction, which is why he even gave us the chance to say if we think Nick is a cheater or not

[@tyupchurch3423]

@JoshStar yea

[@Jabholt013]

Cheaters getting banned is one of the greatest things. Seeing them get banned on live stream is a cherry on top of the cake

[@BrianD0313]

14:30 - This is not cheating this is taking a penalty. The rules stated going outside the zone would get warnings and point deductions so they were willing to take those penalties in hope of recouping them for an overall better score.

[@Kapsek1]

I kinda feel like he did it for content more than to win or something - all those 500k of prize pool was donated anyway

[@I2ed3ye]

This 100%. Cheating is when you break rules that would have you disqualified. Taking point deductions is more akin to being in a sport and getting a penalty like offsides.

[@izacbenjamin4770]

@@I2ed3ye Its more like taking time to run out the clock. its frowned upon and too much leads to a penalty or dq but sometimes taking that penalty is a strategic choice

[@BrianD0313]

@@I2ed3ye I would say it's more akin to a basketball player forcing a foul in order to stop the clock and hope to get the ball back. Going offsides is usually an unintentional act where you either have a brainfart or the offense gets you to jump. The player didn't want to go offsides but accidents happen.

[@deadrussianliberal2897]

Exactly. Stupid children whine about innocent poorly-worded-rule abuse while making excuses for guys like Dream, who made his whole career by cheating. Idiots

[@Thiccjimbobway]

I don’t have valorant and I’m not a fan but I’m honestly jealous of how good they are at getting rid of hackers. As a long time dead by daylight fan, I can only dream for that to happen

[@morningstar3178]

Vanguard is a massive encroachment on a user privacy honestly and I'll never get that disgusting spyware on my system

[@veekay4944]

Wish this could also happen in warzone

[@FlyFitzgerald91]

@@morningstar3178 gay

[@marybean2231]

@@morningstar3178 Ah, yes. A private company preventing hackers on private servers encroaches on user privacy. There's ToS for a reason, and you agreed to them. Don't like it, don't play

[@bigsherk42069]

@@morningstar3178 it's just modern warfare with new maps lol same engine.

[@whell]

love seeing NL popping up in random youtube video

[@AKV47A]

14:06 how come that's called cheating, the rules clearly says you can enter on the off-limits zone for a limited time. It didn't said you cannot, if it was considered cheating by firing people from a off-limits zone, then the rules should include of not able to use weapons or any similar ones. It's like taking damage in the off zone, whats so bad about it. Also he didn't use any wall hacks or aim bots nor any other softwares, he just utilised the game's rule in different perspective. And thats what I call a tactical move.

[@Poofer_Fish]

Yeah, he didn't cheat, he just received a warning

[@_djxx]

because it was cheating he only did it because he knew that they only get a warning

[@eXHackeR]

@@_djxx Then it's not cheating. If the rules say, "If you do this, we will warn you.." well then it's not cheating. He did it, he got warned. What would be cheating is if they said UNDER ABSOLUTELY NO CIRCUMSTANCES CAN YOU LAND HERE, UNLESS YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO DUE TO (insert whatever crazy scenario would cause for them to have to land there), AND ANYONE CAUGHT WILLFULLY ABUSING THE SYSTEM TO LAND THERE ON PURPOSE KNOWING WE ONLY WARN FOR IT, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE TOURNAMENT" - and then did it anyways, and didn't get removed (or did) you could say he 100% cheated. Breaking a rule is not always cheating. If that were the case, we'd call every NFL team cheaters. Hey man, Brady's lineman held onto Aaron Donald. Grabbed his jersey and tackled him to the ground to stop him from sacking Brady on that play. AND THE REF DIDNT EVEN FLAG IT and now Tom Brady threw a TD Pass to Gronk.. and it counted!!! They won by 1 point at the last second. That's not "CHEATING". Tell the refs to call the penalty/enforce it. Do you know how many NFL plays would be considered "cheating" if they investigated every penalty that occurs on a play? Oh probably around 99.9%. Give or take 0.1% or so.

[@AKV47A]

@@_djxx That's not cheating , that's called a good TACTICS, and he didn't use any other softwares nor any other malpractices outside the game. He just utilised what the game has to offer. If you take a gamer's perspective you will understand how it's not called cheating

[@easternasia8258]

ahhh yes loopholes

[@cpuuk]

"I don't know how the hacks got on my computer", sure buddy, they just came down with the Microsoft patch Tuesday update. Best reaction I ever saw was at a LAN party, where the organiser picked up the cheaters rig and literally threw it into the parking lot- there were tears that day.

[@nelsondawson9706]

that's one way to throw out a cheater

[@Nonya943]

It was Clara

[@DannyFrost-fb1ld]

and the organiser gets charged for criminal damage lol

[@Real420inhale]

Wasnt that back in the early 2000's while playing cs?

[@w0uffv379]

tbh it happen so many time to have an computer compromised and that the hacker troll the guy it happen in apex and cs pro with their compromised computer had been trolled by hacker and they injected hack into their game midgame you were playing apex and randomly you would had silent aim or wallhack on everyone

[@xydestiny2890]

Nick "cheating" in the charity event is a simple example of exploiting a loophole, nothing more than that, he didnt deserve a punishment for simply outplaying the event hosters

[@ittylink]

All it does is show how he really is in regards to the situation, underhanded or unsporting yes but technically not cheating

[@sytherwusky]

I guess in this case The rules are in the eye of the beholder

[@daglemj]

While it's technically not "cheating" as he was just abusing badly designed rules it's more about the moral of it. It was a charity event and he played dirty.

[@SingerFam42]

I don't see what nickeh30 doing as cheating but a strategy that could of cost him points or whatever. My dude didn't use wall hacks or aim bot or actual cheats.

[@kerputnick]

this reminds me of a story i once heard. a man checks into a hotel, and the front desk informs him that there's a $200 fine if he's caught smoking in his room. He then promptly pulls out $200, hands it over, and says he's going to be smoking in there. the reason why i find this story similar is because the event organizers said it would be a warning for non-compliance, so the ground rules were laid out. how the participants chose to deal w/that was up to them.

[@CaleoGaming]

I love it more when people in cs accuses you of cheating when you are just better than them and you get map knowledge / muscle memory after 4000 hours

[@retsaMinnavoiG]

Sounds suspiciously similar to what these hackers said before being caught.

[@n8than26]

For me Nick didn't cheat, he just bending the rule..

[@alanway5]

yep. big brain moment

[@CozmoTheDude]

Same

[@mckrackin5324]

He exploited a loophole to steal money from the other charities. The rule says if you cheat once, you get a warning. It doesn't say it's not cheating. I think cheating with money involved should be a felony. It's theft by fraud.

[@BIgMan-zb1wz]

xd

[@MarylandResident]

@@mckrackin5324 Never seen someone so mad about children with cancer getting a 30K donation.

[@beastly572]

You had me at “The tournament had a grand price of TWO THOUSAND dollars, attracting the best of the best teams from around the world” lmao it wouldn’t even cover the cost of airline tickets

[@souza-m7l]

It was an online tournament.. so no airfare.. but ta 2k isnt a whole lot split 5 ways lol

[@ranium6149]

Lol

[@chumchuumm]

@@souza-m7l 2k is a joke. "the best of the best" wouldn't even consider using that shit as toilet paper.

[@OMEGA_575]

You sound spoilt

[@beastly572]

@@OMEGA_575 Who? I work for my own money ;)

[@hasibreza5426]

I think we should have a "Cheat Con" where cheaters around the world will compete & see whose the world greatest cheater :)

[@thunderhead9338]

Invite the entirety of 2B2T

[@espicableyt7624]

Interesting

[@user-ul2vg4tj7y]

That will support others to cheat, but i like your idea :))

[@RebelGarage23]

That would be funny

[@lastpenny849]

Let's keep their exposure to a minimum. That's what they deserve.

[@Dustin_Platt]

I remember playing Golden Eye on the N64, 1v1v1v1 on one TV, and everyone would look at each other's screen and immediately call out cheater, but we played anyway. Ah. Those were the days.

[@bdkj3e]

"You dirty screen looker!"

[@135Fenrir]

Honestly, the Charity thing seemed more like an abuse, or loose interpretation, of the rules than an actual "cheat". The hosts set the system up for manipulation by putting in the "warning" system. Easiest way to handle it from there would be a hard reset on the match once someone was caught out of bounds. Next time, begone. Better than just a warning.

[@RedGamingChair]

Yeah honestly. It's so easy to abuse.

[@psytf2]

It's more like annoying but less like cheating

[@psytf2]

Technically, he did follow the rules

[@Lordpianz]

Designated drop....nah screw that who cares it's a charity event lol...

[@franciosdauteuil4626]

A definition of cheating since you struggle with it so much. Cheating: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. That isn't a loophole its cheating. A WARNING was given so that people making accidental mistakes aren't immediately punished not so you can intentionally plan to cheat and break the rule to gain an underhanded advantage. Just because everybody else FOLLOWS THE RULES doesn't make him right to cheat. Just because they aren't using additional programs to do their cheating also doesn't make them right to cheat. The fact is he gained an underhanded advantage by BREAKING THE RULES and INTENTIONALLY landing outside the allowable area and gain an unfair advantage by not getting shot at early on and giving them additional loot and equipment that other players did not have access to because they actually followed the rules and didn't cheat like him.

[@H4WK6969]

Cheating at online games is basically admitting you cant compete with other players, at that point you should give up and donate your gaming rig to charity.

[@En_theo]

Cheaters are the lowest form of life. What's the point, it's ridiculous and tells you all about their mental-ity.

[@Chucho992]

lol

[@Jaysaipvp]

That is true

[@rattail887]

What if, and this is definitely a theoretical, I suck at games. So I fuck around rather than care about winning.o

[@BuddinGHP]

@@rattail887 That's the fun part.

[@sotkajarvi]

Cheaters needs to be banned. But please don't say they've "hacked" the game, because they haven't. Scriptkiddie would be a more accurate description.

[@sepheronx]

Sorta. They purchased the scripts.

[@sotkajarvi]

@@sepheronx My point exactly, Scriptkiddies.

[@jordonmartin8034]

Finally!!!!! I’ve never ever heard anyone say this, but I hate it when I hear admins or another player use the term “hacking” THEY ARE NOT HACKING! All they did was purchase a piece of software and download it in order to CHEAT. Not hack. Personally I believe that gives cheaters too much credit.

[@sotkajarvi]

@@jordonmartin8034 I agree with you. As you said, they paid for a cheating software, they haven’t reverse engineered any code or cracked any code. It DOES give them too much credit, even if they don’t know anything about hacking/cracking. The video creator’s really need to stop doing this. And I’m not being negative towards the video creators, look at is as constructive criticism.

[@ironbeast7476]

For this to happen they need to get rid of monetization! I can’t believe some of these losers who get the same for free have a direct line to the game developers! Some get shown more favoritism than actual paying customers! Stop following losers on twitch!

[@davishampton5899]

I appreciate the way you explain everything simply for people that may not know what hacks look like or have never played certain games. great vid :-))

[@justintietz4477]

But I dont like how he resaid the same thing over and over again haha

[@_u0nda928]

@@justintietz4477 Yeah but the godly roasts he makes make up for it lol

[@tr1bes]

Cheatings have been there in the mid 90s as far as I know in pc gaming. That's why I don't want to deal with all these hacks. Wall hacks isn't anything new to me. I've seen it and done it. Yeah I cheat once but grown tire of not being a great experience of my own ability. Aim bot is something new that I don't have any experience with because I stop playing fps games in mid 2000.

[@Folfah]

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[@nesia_b421]

That just goes to show that "cheaters never win, and winners never cheat". If you can't play fair competitively, don't play at all.

[@gaminglichgamer4035]

Eh.I've ran into hackers in minecraft and they beat me 50% of the time other 50% of the time their absolute garbage and somehow manage to get killed by me,which is then followed by me trash talking them.

[@d9gepro2]

@@gaminglichgamer4035 i had the same experience, and in roblox too but i win 70% every time they try to roast me, I've encountered cnps/random stupid kids online dating and they judge me by my avatar then when i roasted them so much they used cheats but then left

[@Pupperpats]

Cheets sux.

[@d9gepro2]

@@Pupperpats *Cheats suck.

[@Pupperpats]

@@d9gepro2 I was being silly, I know it is cheats suck.

[@koolaid3345]

Imagine buying some used PC parts on ebay to play this valorant game everyone has been talking about only to find out you've already been banned for hacking

[@user-wq5dn8me7n]

Lmao

[@llamainyamama3088]

Rekt

[@AndyKPOV]

They ban the ip.....

[@xYOSIYAx]

@@AndyKPOV Hardware ID Ban (HWID Ban) is pretty common. Windows itself uses your HWID to make sure you didn't pirate Windows

[@wea_lodd9961]

@@xYOSIYAx what do you mean by "pirate windows" ?

[@the1abstrakt]

5:22 this guy looks hella stoned he probably didnt even realise until the next day

[@colinjohnston9824]

Obviously the charity event wasn't cheating. The rules were clear: warning followed by point loss. Point loss in exchange for advantage. Totally legitimate strategy.

[@hosseinenayati3318]

That's exactly what i think. If they didn't want them to land anywhere else, they would have said "no warning, you'll get kicked out of the tournament if you land anywhere else". Anyone who got mad at Nick for using this strategy is just a kid who is just jealous

[@davidsummers8664]

exactly

[@charliec.3518]

@@hosseinenayati3318 theyre only mad because they didnt think of it first

[@shadowgojiro]

Cheating for a charity case, that's somewhat heroic. Nevertheless it's cheating..

[@hosseinenayati3318]

@@shadowgojiro It's not even considered to be in a "cheating" category. The rules are clear: you'll get a warning and you'll lose points if you land somewhere else. If they wanted to prevent others from landing somewhere other than the location they told them too, they would have taken immediate action, like banning or kicking them out of the tournament, like every other "cheating" case.

[@InquisitorAstelon]

That landing outside the zone thing isn't cheating. It's gaming the system. If they tell you you can go out of bounds X times and you choose to use that to your advantage, there's nothing about that that's against the rules.

[@dynastypierce5446]

Exactly and if the creators of this event didn't want players to do that, they would've instantly banned them if they were to land out of bounds and stay longer than a few minutes. Also, wouldn't allow a few warnings to repeated offenders before banning.

[@aldrichcruz9321]

its also cheating

[@aldrichcruz9321]

these 2 landed on the no play zone and stacking up for gun munition and material before going into battle that is a Hot Drop Zone tournament these 2 were no where to be found in the battle

[@aldrichcruz9321]

it takes skills not strat to get in fight on Hot Drop Zone

[@johngreen3459]

@@aldrichcruz9321 wether they cheated or not the money went towards charity who gives a fuck

[@Wojtek1250XD]

What gives gamers feeling of POWER: -Doing someone so hard they call you a hacker out of rage -Maxing out the game *-Defeating a hacker that isn't hiding their cheats*

[@griffithdota]

Defeating a smurf is also in that list

[@diggitydiggity5523]

Defeating the maus is the best feeling in world of tanks

[@Wojtek1250XD]

@@diggitydiggity5523 Yea, especially one shotting it with altilery (it is possible)

[@lemon4692]

Also killing a pro player

[@Wojtek1250XD]

@@lemon4692 Sadly it's out of top 4, but it's pure satisfactory

[@Laurasophiesmith]

Vanguard really has a good system to detect cheaters. Well done

[@tddt1615]

"Thats 69% *giggle* nice" Ah i see, you're men of culture as well

[@aidennsejas205]

noice

[@holdencommodorehsv]

The men culture meme is cringe

[@tddt1615]

@@holdencommodorehsv okay

[@blackroberts6290]

@@holdencommodorehsv c

[@jinxy7869]

@@holdencommodorehsv finally someone said it

[@dragonkingbreaker6]

14:50, he did nothing wrong. It was a warning, and it was within parameters of the rules they were given. He exploited a technicality in a game that wouldn't get them removed/banned, unless they did it too much. While it also hurt absolutely no one physically, or any other teams chances of attempting to win any and all prize money for the charities they wanted to donate to. Yes, It was indeed a bit of an asshole move, (I say that, strictly due to the fact his attitude towards it at the time. I just don't find that good to joke about something like that in that manner, especially on camera while broadcasting an event. Not about his overall character, no matter what people want to argue.) for him to do so. But in the end, it was for a charity he chose to donate the prize money to with his teammates. Cheating by disrupting gameflow, movement, weapons, normal in game systems, is COMPLETELY different than exploiting something that can give you an advantage in the game. Especially if EVERYONE can do it, specifically when you can only get a warning from it. I don't condone exploits of any kind. But if you can get an advantage from something, especially when you're having fun with people doing something that hurts absolutely no one, and it's riding on your skills for a payout/reward that goes to those less fortunate than you. Then I say take full fucking advantage of it, fuck what anyone else has to say, and rock on. BLAH BLAH BLAH. It isn't cheating, but it is an exploit. But if any and everyone is allowed to do it, with only a warning at stake for something like a charity event, (specifically if it's a video game.) and it hurts absolutely no one. Fucking do it. Let other people bitch about it. That shows the world more about them, than it does you. Went a bit off track there, (I'm on a snack break at work, catching up on books/scrolling through the net.) but you more or less get my point.

[@Prots0392]

You are right

[@Totto111]

@Saiyan in the Iron Mask not when its for charity, I mean he did not get anything out of it since they donated it all, the only thing that would change is what organization got the money. And USUALLY exploits are the games fault, in this case they could have a stricter rule to not following rules.

[@randomcallum]

it's cheating getting a yellow card in football don't get you sent off but your still a cheat lol

[@TheGeneralStorm]

agreed what he did was use the loopholes in the rules. cheating is when u use a bug or a vulnerability in the system or just using 3rd party software. what he did was use the loopholes in the rules

[@maxime9512]

He doesn’t have the right to cheat. Even for a charity event. Each and every organisation supported during this event has their right to get a certain amount of donation. His doesn’t have the right to get more chances to get donation than another.

[@ThunderFlarz]

Seeing Northernlion laugh while watching the cheater was therapeutic.

[@durandas6661]

Noticing a pattern of "beardy white hipster" cheating😂

[@riffdagg6701]

14:53 I wouldn't say Nick cheated, I would say he used the rules that they were enforcing to his own advantage. Like when we are in an arm-wrestling match, we know we are allowed two or three fouls, so we will purposely sometimes foul out just to keep from losing the round. It's not cheating it's using the rules to our advantage.

[@riffdagg6701]

@chosenstar07. coryxkinshin 🤣how? He fouled, and got fouled for it, it's just strategic.

[@geeknat8981]

@chosenstar07. coryxkinshin It's like getting a yellow card in soccer in order to ensure a goal. Just use the warning system to your advantage

[@enderslayer2024]

@chosenstar07. coryxkinshin it's not cheating if they get a warning

[@benjaminfrazier5624]

i was thinking the same thing.

[@thomasle7253]

Yup

[@Vulganot]

It blows my mind that people would cheat themselves out of the satisfaction of actually learning and mastering a game. Weird.

[@creaturedanaaaaa]

It's never looking for genuine satisfaction of a job well done, it's just people looking for the quick dopamine hit of completely destroying someone

[@hiuwo]

well many streamers make money off their successful gameplay so it isn’t just about winning but win enough that people give you money

[@ChineduOpara]

Peer pressure.

[@wandereringshadow8658]

@@ChineduOpara All of these are right, but for a lot of cheaters its about the ego boost, as they usually have fragile egos that can't handle losing.

[@ChineduOpara]

@@wandereringshadow8658 That too. Probably some combination of both.

[@saplingzap]

The landing out side the specified area "cheat" seems more like a tactical play. I don't know much about fortnight or sports but don't sports teams do similar things. If it was a bigger deal would there be harsher punishments. Like the player said it was a warning and if being outside the area gave an advantage then any team even doing it on accident would get an advantage.

[@joshbotkin2547]

I Dnt c that as a cheat the rest could of did the next match to me a cheat is when someone uses something the plays or does parts of the game for them like aiming see people throw walks extra Health or invincibility

[@pdobs1279]

Exactly if he lands outside the map he loses points. And if they still managed to get more points than people inside the zone, they need to play better. If they wanted it to be cheating the rules should’ve been they get kicked immediately

[@aynawowtv440]

Fortnite not fortnight

[@robertfilangeri3298]

@Palu Fisiitalia and

[@maevwat]

It still gives an unfair advantage if you land on a hotdrop with no opponents to interfere with your looting time

[@JetLagRecords]

BE AMAZED, awesome video keep it up dude

[@ZorotheGallade]

Another detail about Lee's faked run is that the first thing viewers asked him to do to prove he was doing the run legit was to make certain movements during an autoscrolling section of the game (an autoscrolling section being one where the camera advances through the level at a fixed speed, meaning a speedrunner can do whatever they want during them as long as they are in the right position when the exit becomes accessible). He refused which brought the community members to demand the controller cam instead.

[@Xegethra]

"I don't know how they got there" Ahh yes, we've all had those days where we boot up a game and cheat software is just magically there on your PC for no reason and automatically running when you start playing. Hate it when that happens!

[@stechuskaktus]

No no, it was my cat!

[@pvteagle9472]

Wait it doesn’t happen to you? Damn.

[@eschcal9839]

Same thing kids say when Mom finds their stash of weed, or worse, your collection and dubious floppy things. Thats a lose/lose situation. Just save yourself the pain and rip that band-aid off. Sooner the better, you can just get on with life asap without anymore embarrassment. You'll remember those moments with laughter as a kid. And dread when your sister gets drunk and starts talking about something you weren't caught for later in life to your parents.

[@nonoohoh2780]

It was "Clara"🤣

[@champorado2875]

@@nonoohoh2780 I knew it!

[@tamer3806]

I’m still amazed by how quickly everyone forgave Dream. His channel got almost no punishment from it and everyone forgot about it in 2 seconds. If that happened to anyone else, they would be disowned in a minute.

[@HolyCrapSpace]

This is true. I think he got off so easy just because it was a 'for fun' thing, and he really did seem to have done it accidentally. Owning up to it was a big step in the right direction considering most people double down even when their cheats are super obvious. Dream did a lot to try and prove his authenticity with hiring an expert and spending so much time trying to figure out the problem, and not making any money off of it was a huge point in the overall look. Having dipped into other content than just speedruns also had an impact, imo. If he was solely a speedrunning channel, I feel like he wouldn't have come out as easy as he did.

[@FlaccidPlatypus]

His main channel is entertainment purposes. A huge majority of his fans don’t care about speed running

[@irlquicksilver]

Unfortunately Dream gets away with a lot that he really shouldn't

[@DeviantDespot]

Dream isn't primarily a speedrunner, he just did one. His other content is why people watch him.

[@Theunicorn2012]

I'm still amazed by how quickly everyone forgave Dream. His channel got almost no punishment from it and everyone forgot about it in 2 seconds. If that happened to anyone else, they would be disowned in a minute.

[@MiquelUlin]

Nick just had fun man. No cheating there 😂

[@mzc_crazy3769]

Honestly Dream recovered shockingly well from that.

[@bebarrieronyt5883]

Yea dream stans saved him. I dont believe him that it was an accident

[@elixerthegreat5205]

Awwww, little dream stan dont like the truth?

[@Phoenix.Sparkles]

I wouldn't say that... if you ask anyone outside his specific fandom, they'll all say they hate him because he cheated and rigged the votes and whatever else. The man isn't being careful about his reputation and even if it is his responsibility to some degree, he cannot control his fandom without causing more harm. Opinions and beliefs will stay black/white rather than grey because people want to focus on the negatives. Dream hasn't done anything that's more or less bad than the rest of the population, it's only getting attention because he's basically on the front page of minecraft atm. His very existence is being used by others to gain money and attention, every little "bad" thing that has ever happened will stick around for the public to see and be exploited, for the rest of his life and there's nothing he can do about it. He donated so much money to cancer, but that's not interesting, nobody cares if he contributed more than most people ever will, that's not putting everyone else on a higher horse, so why talk about it, right..?

[@logan63gameingghost94]

It just goes to show that if you have a community full of no lifes you can get away with anything sadly

[@holysmith7117]

"I don't care he is still the best and smartest in Minecraft!!!" - dream stans after revealed the truth

[@darkeve4013]

15:26 they didn’t cheat it was just poor rule making on the people running the tournament. If they really didn’t want people landing outside of a certain space on the map they shouldn’t have opted for a “Warning system” they should have opted with instant disqualification.

[@ozone3750]

Wrong time stamp

[@S_MrWeeb]

yeah it hardly seems like cheating since doing it once is fine if they didnt want anyone to do it they would have made the rule harsher right?

[@darkeve4013]

@@wiredtoken lol if only I noticed when I made the comment x-x

[@lesagechristian6579]

Happy to see cheating is taken seriously and I'm not alone thinking its disgraceful to cheat , thank you for making the world a better place by exposing the cheaters

[@thegreatpleco3920]

He isn’t though he just saying known cheaters

[@kaliquake04]

@@thegreatpleco3920 Clearly you don't know what your talking about.

[@FieldsOfConfusion]

He isn’t though he just saying known cheaters - 🤓🤓🤓

[@casecold1864]

@@kaliquake04 He is not exposing them, Einstein. Hence the word KNOWN was used.

[@adnan_honest_jihadist5775]

exposing is gonna do nothing

[@bonnon377]

Meanwhile 99% of hackers are still out there vibing because they don’t stream themselves hacking

[@corpskigaming2558]

i wouldn't call what the Charity streamer did cheating, if they didnt want the rules played with, they shouldn't have left flexibility in them. Gamers who play legit LOVE bending rules. its not cheating if its in the game already that's kinda the unwritten rule. The rest of them, toss em to the wolves, filthy cheaters.

[@patrickmcglonejr8163]

Total exploit of the rules, but definitely not cheating in my opinion. He wasn't using any software or hacks to modify the game so I don't see HOW it was cheating.

[@eXHackeR]

It'd be like having an overpowered gun, and it being FROWNED UPON to use it, but it's in the rules that you can. So one day in a tournament someone puts a loadout on with that gun, and just stomps.. That's not cheating. If we wanna talk about things that are not against the rules... Ppl wanna get mad about someone landing outside a designated zone in a video game.. OH WAH! GO cry. How about detectives who KNOWINGLY LIE to a suspect to get them to falsely (the detective might truly believe they have the right person in their heart, by the way) confess to a crime? Such as, "We have 3 witnesses who saw YOU do it. We have DNA getting tested right now. We have your fingerprints on the gun" Guess what? That can ALL be a lie and it's perfectly within the rules and 100% OK. It happens ALL the time. You wanna be mad at things like landing outside of the designated zone for your team.. Start caring about real issues that get people locked up for life that don't deserve it and did absolutely nothing wrong. Once they BREAK THEM and they falsely confess, good luck getting out on appeal. Only 1 in a million win those IF THAT and there is no minecraft update glitch to help better those odds.

[@EvrytForReal]

yeah, its like super mario bros. speedruns, they aren't cheating if they stop at a certain point where the camera shows 3 pixels of a block so you're able to go back into a pipe and end up in the last level, it's just tactics

[@runek100]

Its like fanatics exploited boosts in csgo. I dont think it is cheating if you use no third party programs.

[@corpskigaming2558]

@@runek100 Exactly.

[@senz1646]

10:50 could easily have been done without hacks. First shot was just pre aiming and the second shot u could see the enemy’s shot go trough the smoke

[@shadyshrimp4169]

True lol, but its always the good players that gets instantly banned, but when they are actually cheating they dont get banned for a year...

[@tabaccount6113]

serious, pax didnt even hit the shot and like you say, you can see the enemies bullets from his returning fire come through the smoke

[@waruwaru752]

I was just finding this comment

[@Brit_Birb]

Yeah, i came here to agree, you can see that it is a potential vantage point, you can pinpoint where they are to where the bullets come from and I dont think they 'guiltily shut off their stream' what kind of valorant steam is worth watching when the person cant play?

[@mythdragon7000]

i agree , he didnt even connect them , he may be hacking but that clip has 0 proof of hacking

[@WhoCares869]

The dream situation should have been a quick "I'm sorry for cheating" but he had to be an idiot and defend himself against something literally impossible

[@chicken4699]

He went too far that his 8 yrs old stans starts sending death threats

[@natel7382]

This is fraud. In anything else it would be jail time. Hundred of thousands of dollars earned in adrev fraudulently attained. Felony

[@WhoCares869]

@@natel7382 what?

[@Vigilante-rq8ek]

@@natel7382 you have no idea what fraud is.

[@Sirgo_07]

@Titus M it has been proven that he cheated. But it's all in the past now.

[@GGClips]

I like how you're telling me 500 times that the boxes around players aren't normal

[@everyone7]

Honestly, Nick was mainly having good fun with his partner, pointing to his laugh about it, but he shouldn't really, at the end of the day, one thing many people forget is that games should be played for fun

[@mrbonjangle]

To anyone saying the charity guy broke the rules, he did not. The rules were that if you spend time outside the area, you lose points. He risked points to get an advantage. Clearly they did not find his actions cheating, so you shouldn’t either.

[@ultraman5168]

That's a pretty narrow ethical view, the virtue of the situation is obviously still in staying within the bounds of the game.

[@Libellulaire]

@@ultraman5168 I guess in an "ethical view" it is indeed not so great because the staff obviously wanted to impose a spawn location while those guys decided to ignore that and accept the punishment in exchange for the advantage it'll give them. But it's also nothing "illegal" (gameplay wise). If the staff really didn't want that to be a possibility they should have punished it by disqualifying them... although obviously they also couldn't do that since it was a charity event. So yeah, while they didn't actually broke the rules, it was a really dirty strategy and mindset for such an event. It's a bad sportsmanship mentality, but not cheating.

[@mrbonjangle]

@@ultraman5168 that is the reality view. If they allow the ability to go outside the bounds for a set time, then people will go outside the bounds. Whether intentionally or not, whether it is to get loot or to flank.

[@the_matad0r342]

The intention for setting up the boundary is to give you that bit of leeway in a fight without making you suffer penalties, but keep you in close enough proximity that it doesn't stall out the game. This is similar to the zone pushing you in, but without harming your character and potentially costing you a fight. The organizers expected the players to use the honor system here, with punishments set up if they weren't. The really sad part? This guy was purposefully defying the organizers to help St. Jude. (You could also argue that he was purposefully hurting another charity.) Now, anyone who knows about this and views it as a scummy move will associate that with St. Jude. Do you want to help the charity that asked someone to abuse the rules of a charity event like that? (St. Jude is still a great charity and I highly doubt they asked him to do that, but people do like to connect dots.)

[@mrbonjangle]

@@the_matad0r342 the organizers never said he abused the system, who are you to say he did?

[@lockout5731]

never cheat always stay on the good side of gaming chaps

[@zajinramirez2780]

I always use wallhacks with bloodhound in Apex legends i don't know what it wrong with it

[@pizzapizza6144]

@@zajinramirez2780 people just like seeing people legitimately beat the game without hacks for entertainment

[@zajinramirez2780]

@@pizzapizza6144 its a joke,apec legends is a battle royale where every character has an ability and bloodhound's is seeing through walls

[@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780]

unless its a single player game then go wild

[@Real-Rat]

Mmm pubg has a lot of cheaters.... i find 2 hackers every week

[@Dustin_Platt]

There's no cheating for a charity tournament. I'd even watch this kind of stuff even if everyone had cheats blatantly out in the open. The real winners are the charities.

[@echoed800]

This is why I can't cheat because I probably out myself from my own stupidity

[@Theunicorn2012]

This is why I can't cheat because I probably out myself from my own stupidity

[@FalcoHans]

I cheat on FiveM mostly to troll players ( like locking cars changing car colors breaking their vehicles etc) and to get back at other cheaters or at people doing anti rp

[@joshuasimpson6374]

Or just don't cheat homie. It's not worth it. If you suck, get better. If you can't get better play a different game?

[@shalindelta7]

@joshuasimpson6374 you're missing one key reason why they do it. It's not like they're doing it at home for themselves, they're tryna get big on socials and make money.

[@Cragun.]

I want to see a tearful apology, then a deletion of all social media, then never hear from them again. Hate cheaters. Love that games track hardware ID so they can’t just use multiple accounts.

[@yurilopes420]

hardware spoofers. there are games with hardware band and reoccurring hackers

[@kaidinking3540]

Just keep creating more work for em is the best they can do I guess lol.

[@FN--ky6my]

Imagine thinking that Hardware ID bans actually prevents people to keep cheating. Hahaa peanut brain

[@xsh4dw]

I love it when these cheaters panic , it adds to the flavor.

[@joshuasimpson6374]

Heck yes! Watching cheaters get what the deserve give me a nice warm feeling.

[@brooklynflyboii2372]

Getting caught by a call of duty character is crazy

[@yedunson9916]

Calling NickEh30 a cheater for exploiting rules the tournaments organizers provided is just silly.

[@Blastermanx]

If they really want people to land in the right zone they would of ban people not knock off points or just knock off a lot of points that doing so wouldn't be a viable strategy.

[@sbaby-nv1dd]

Yeh that was BS. He was comfortably talking about it on camera because he wasn’t breaking the rules really. If he’s prepared to sacrifice points to go out there to recoup them elsewhere thats his risk

[@xrefed]

Its a risky strategy too

[@DavidAjayi-ex3to]

6:00 "You don't need a wallhack to find the like and subscribe button and you don't need an aimbot to hit them" This is legendary

[@walter2440]

No it’s very cringe

[@gamerinfinix8170]

@@walter2440 your name is more

[@walter2440]

@@gamerinfinix8170 GAMErInfiNix? and you play cod mobile?

[@gamerinfinix8170]

@@walter2440 noe

[@Strawberry10697]

@@walter2440 Wow the hater of BE AMAZE yay😒

[@cronotriggered4314]

Dream claiming he didn't make any money off those streams is the stupidest argument I've ever heard. By having top level speedruns uploaded on his channel and also on the streaming leaderboard he attracted tens of thousands of curious internet users to check out his very much monetized content. I can guarantee you the dude made heaps of money as a result of those speedruns and the drama surrounding them.

[@shreksmeatballs9435]

And he also claimed more stupid shit like "People don't know me as a Speedrunner" and "I'm not known for my Speedrunning" to protect his reputation. More loads of straight bullsh*t, he literally puts the "Speedrunner" title in his Manhunt videos and literally everyone that casually knows him would call him a Minecraft Speedrunner lmao. I wonder how he's still kicking around after acting like a pathetic child. What's worse is when you actually say something about it, his Stans roar up to say shit like "It's just a block game". Right, like they totally weren't defending him on their life and harassing all critics ( like Dream himself ) over the "block game" before he eventually confirmed it himself. Bunch of hypocrites. I still honestly don't understand how and why people still like and watch him 🤦

[@feuerrobin4269]

his plan worked he still gets masive amounts of views and got alot attension bc of that drama

[@cronotriggered4314]

@@shreksmeatballs9435 yeah I don’t get it either I personally will never support him or any of the dream smp as a result. What he did was arguably the biggest cheating scandal in speedrunning history and downright disrespectful to the speedrunning community and everyone out there who spends thousands of hours grinding out real runs. He’s a selfish egotistical idiot with some of the most toxic and insane fans I’ve ever seen on the internet.

[@billlupin8345]

Bullshit. Everyone knows manhunt is his moneymaker. People jump on his channel for amazingly cunning clutch plays, not the speedruns.

[@AstinCrow]

@@billlupin8345 Faked clutch plays, but he puts "speedrunner" in the title to set up the scenario of someone who plays at a pro level vs someone who plays at a optimized level. While later in his name dragged views, the beginning wasn't so.

[@bobloblawlove]

Cheating is cheating. Doesn't matter if it's in a charity event, doesn't matter if it's a casual or a pro player.

[@lordsvirtue4896]

Just know if they ban you in chat for saying they’re cheating that means they’re cheating

[@aclown079]

if you know kxpture he was recently called out for wall hacks, and when i mentioned it in the live twitch they banned me

[@itsmrdante6274]

Nah you get banned for calling anyone a cheater. Because you're being toxic in chat

[@dandew1072]

I used to play COD but when I saw countless people tracking me perfectly through walls in their kill cams I abandoned the franchise. It's pathetic how rampant cheating is throughout the cesspool that is the player base.

[@yikes6969]

sounds like a skill issue

[@shikaka9032]

all american cheaters should say , these are all russian hackers - klara

[@ZambunctiousYT]

nigga what@@yikes6969

[@jacobhosier4568]

@@yikes6969 The last time I played warzone I was killed by a person that had glitched under the map. Literally shot me through the ground. The devs are such a joke.

[@Mster_J]

@@jacobhosier4568you’re a joke for playing on pc. That’s where 98% of the hackers are. Just play on console and disable cross-platform play

[@friendlyneighborhoodspider3962]

10:22 He's def not aimbotting. He's just checking common angles and that is def not tracking perfectly lol. He landed next to zero of those shots. The closest you can call is the random spaced flick shot. Shooting threw smoke isn't at all uncommon.

[@thirkill1990]

Right? Having done countless Overwatch cases on Counter Strike, there is absolutely no evidence of that man cheating in this clip, and I would have said definitely NOT beyond reasonable doubt. Probably a common angle to hold, did not "track them perfectly", he didn't even hit the guy as far as I can tell, let alone headshot him, and he could see the tracers through the smoke so he knew exactly where the guy was.

[@friendlyneighborhoodspider3962]

@@thirkill1990 with the weapon he had, he would have one shot him with a headshot. Esp is the best argument but even so, the angle is extremely common to hold.

[@ravegaming2787]

I was about to say the same thing, if he actually landed those shots especially a headshot they would be dead but you can see the kill feed and he didn’t kill anyone.. this was the best “proof” they could get that was closest to the actual thing probably lol

[@iPeekedJFK]

Yeah thats cool and all but he was banned on all those platforms bc he was cheating. Next

[@Absismad]

He was tracking common angles as a diamond that’s the most common angle to peek

[@olserknam]

Dream saying he "accidentally" cheated is the flimsiest excuse ever

[@reubeb8820]

I think nick didn't really cheat, he was just REALLY clever with the rules.

[@Kevin-lj5pq]

I agree, IMO the rules as stated in this video practically invited that "you can land outside once" strategy - was there really nothing like a penalty point reduction or even disqualification from that match? Competitors still shouldn't abuse loopholes like that but also if you don't give teeth to a rule like this one, gamers are naturally gonna exploit it lol.

[@ansems3309]

Since there was a point penalty or something like this, what he did was basically like dying in CS GO. It's not against the rules to lose, it's just bad for your team if you are doing that often. Don't know why this is called cheating.

[@ansems3309]

@Simulation L "if you go there you will get a warning and then you will lose points." - "okay that sounds fair, we will do it".That's like saying "if your team dies you lose a point. So if you die in the game, you are a cheater"

[@ansems3309]

@Simulation L This KZbinr here stated that it was clear that they will get a warning and then points redacted if they go there. Where exactly did they cheated?

[@ansems3309]

@Simulation L Haha wtf? :D No I just think that if they tell you "you get a warning if you do this" then it is not cheating if you do it. :D