Bean Bites Me (ON CAMERA!) 😢😢😢

[@wonderwend]

This was a superb video. Those very subtle differences that could be missed, especially the change mid head scratch scenario. Thanks Jaime

[@michellemeade3821]

Just like us humans , animals and birds have there bad days, didn't sleep well, have a headache, sore etc etc , you do an amazing job J, we all get bummed when we get bitten lol just keep doing what your doing, much love from Australia

[@ESLteacher62]

@Michelle Meade & @Birdtricks - I've been bummed lately because my (approximately 8 to 9 month old) budgie has been biting me for the past few months and sometimes getting aggressive with my hand. I've had him almost 7 months now. This is a new behavior that started about 2 months ago. His bite doesn't hurt, but I want it to stop. I don't want him biting my grand children who love him dearly. I got him from a pet store so I've had to tame him myself. He spent the majority of the first few months mostly cage bound because he was so scared to come out of his cage. That's his "safe space." Now, he'll come out and explore close to his cage and spend some time outside of it. I don't know whether this new aggression is hormonal or if it's boredom or if he's just a grump. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

[@mikotheraskum2014]

@@ESLteacher62 knowing its a sudden change in behavior,i think the best thing to do is to get him to an aviary vet

[@rosebudadkins6803]

Exactly, we breed too notch German shepherds for law enforcement, SAR and service dogs. My dogs are very well trained. They do occasionally go off the rails. They are always sensitive to weather, seasonal and earth magnetic changes. Currently, we are seeing herd migration out here in West. We are waiting on the big one …..earthquake. Animals are moving from west to east. They predict sometime June the quake will hit along the Cascade Zone. We have been trying to prepare several years now. Pray it will not be massive. This is expected to set off Yellowstone. When Mt St Helen blew her top in 80’s the devastation was unbelievable. The area to this day…..look’s like a bomb went off.

[@ladylaois8184]

so true

[@markreynolds9135]

He was probably constipated.

[@laureenmutch9099]

Thanks for showing everyone the warning fluff, I often see videos with people getting "surprise" bites, but you can see the body language beforehand and I feel they're just not aware of what to look for

[@tammicahill5707]

Body language, is key!

[@connied8507]

This so reminds me of children when they are having challenges in their life. Bean feels safe around you and acts out when he didn't feel safe acting out without you.

[@ericjohnson8001]

I always used to behave like i was dealing with a bi-polar two yr old when I dealt with em.

[@spiritmatter1553]

He’s being distractingly cute though, constantly presenting the back of his neck for scritches!

[@lockandloadlikehell]

Nothing says distractingly cute like biting your owner

[@MrJdubz100]

She said that the bite didn’t hurt so I hardly would call that a bite.

[@spiritmatter1553]

@@MrJdubz100 If it doesn’t hurt, it’s not a bite….I’d just call it a love bite.

[@OpenGL4ever]

You perfectly described my male grey parrot who passed away 3 years ago. He did the same thing you show at 8:38 with the mean feathers. Luring us for petting and then suddenly bites. That's the meaning of this body language. I really know that very well.

[@elaineambrose7413]

I’ve had an African grey since he was 6 months old , he’s 26 this year ! All I can say is they can change just like but you have to tell him to be nice or step up . Mine likes being sung to also they are super intelligent so colour blocks and different objects expand the mind . Play games ie ; tell him the shape and colours of different shaped wood toys then ask him to pick a shape you ask for . Get him to focus on nice things then he will be very happy as he’s using him mind more then aggression will stop 🇬🇧🇬🇧xx

[@anna8389szczerba]

Aw yea that sounds like Good idea. I haven’t seen them do any color or any puzzle training with their birds but I haven’t been watching for too long

[@elizabethmiloscia6533]

That’s amazing! How long is their life expectancy?

[@elaineambrose7413]

80-85 year

[@muurrarium9460]

@@elaineambrose7413 I thought it was 45-ish (most I read is 35-55). Macaws reach 90 easily, usually: larger birds live longer (unlike dogs).

[@ianwebster3544]

It's incredibly hard to get inside the mind of a bird, just when you think you have it sussed they do something crazy

[@paloma4444]

As if you could with people

[@goldmemberr]

Very true! It’s been teaching me so much patience. The illusion is that we take care of our pets but it’s a two way street they take care of us!

[@carolhartley4448]

Amen to that! Lol

[@foodiemama1664]

I wonder if he was a bit rude towards the birbs in the garage, and they corrected him. His birdy manners didnt seem the best when Bondi was trying to help him crate train.

[@haijimiiwaizumi9765]

The way I could tell bean was being aggresive was through his eyes. his eyes were squinting and pinning.

[@ChristSotos-fy4vw]

This is the best way to show everyone how when they get pissed he gave you a clear sign ,thank you very much, stay safe and unbitten

[@willow11]

My Grey does a similar click sound when he's angry. It's my que to stop and pay attention to his body language and what I'm doing that is causing the aggression. I've been super successul and have not been bitten in the last 2 years. He was a rehome that I bought from an lady that had an impulse buy and had no clue about parrots. He was kept in closet for nearly the entire time she had him and he was afraid of most everything. With lots of work and encouragment and now the sweetest most confident bird. He's not a talker but he knows his colors and shapes and does a wide range of sound effects.

[@grannysharp772]

I could definitely see the aggression and felt it too. Bean was not his happy self. It looks like he got bit.

[@emmathompson1996]

Love this, my Grey can be pretty unpredicatabe and learning those subtle body laugage moves is absolutely key thanks for showing!

[@casualgamestreams6133]

I love these videos explaining the more subtle parrot behaviors. It’s so important

[@striving.catholic]

Bean must be feeling cranky due to lack of sleep and the pain in his face after what he been through that night.

[@lorihamm4379]

First time I met my bird he bit my fingernail in half. Didn’t know I was going to be his mom until my brother in law died. 20 years later I can only pet him when my hubby’s not home. Been solely feeding him and you’d think he’d like me by now.

[@audraconnors8568]

I think Bean was traumatized by one of the other birds and was simply looking to you for comfort and cuddling,, when he bit you he was reminding you to keep scratching, that is my guess but I'm the owner of a cockatoo

[@cindychapman5900]

Sorry Bean and you guys have had situational stress. But this was a great video of how adept you are at reading his body language. It makes me think about how good our domesticated companion like dogs and cats have become at reading human body language for the most part and what a gift that is for our bonding. They have to do most of the signal reading and are often very forgiving of our mistakes and inconsistencies. It also makes me think about being visually impaired as I am, a wild parrot would be even more of a challenge for me. If I had to hold a frustrated bird close enough to see raised back feathers, I would likely be close enough to be at risk for a bite. Thank you, Jamie, for your clear description and attention to camera work! As a person who cannot see the beauty of birds in trees but can mostly hear them, your videos educate and delight me. Using my iPad zoom feature lets me see little Bean/s wound and his raised feathers. Love all you and Dave do. And a hug to your getting-taller Capri because she is great with the bids too (and even I can tell she’s growing😂)

[@taurezdrex]

I’m really happy that you posted this video because my Amazon has a similar behavior that confused and frustrated the life out of me. He’d come over for heard scratches which is all cool but then if he’s asking and I ignore him he’d keep begging and eventually he takes the hint and moves on. Butttt their are times where he gets pissed off and his back feathers raises up as well and his body language gets super heavy and it feels like he’s saying make the wrong move and I’ll eff you up .. at which point I’ll get him off my hands and have him chill out. But just seeing bean do the same demonic trance behavior that my Amazon does and seeing how you worked thru it is comforting because I do the same .. I’ve recognized he does it when he’s going thru a molt or maybe he didn’t sleep well etc. but sometimes it just happens if he gets extra excited ( or at least what I think is excited) and that’s the part that I’m struggling to read

[@OpenGL4ever]

My grey parrot did the same. My cockatiel never did such things.

[@taurezdrex]

@@OpenGL4ever guess amazons and Greys got the demon gene in common lol

[@muurrarium9460]

Never compare amazon behaviour with african grey behaviour. They are quite different. Amazons have this amazing tailflare for example. But humans responses.. not bad :) My african grey was living beside 2 amazons for a few years, so he 'spoke' amazonian to me when he moved in here. I did not understand him! (He was my 3rd african grey at that time, I grew up with my first.)

[@floridamadman59]

I did get the impressions you were talking about. It's difficult to deal with birds sometimes. They are so different from us and dogs or even cats.

[@byndass5552]

He looks like he knows what you’re talking about and he feels embarrassed 🙈, so sweet.

[@connectionoflivesandinterests]

*Hello, I'm your 248th Thumbs up. I loved that you shared the hard parts. Wow.... Must be hard when they're unpredictable. The Re-Play parts were Great!!! I need to learn about these areas you have for the birds. Full watch. Blessings and keep the Fun in all you do. 🦜🐦🦜* Sharon in SC

[@sherryshelton199]

He’s so beautiful!

[@sharonflamio456]

Aww, so cute smart and precious ♥️💕

[@pietro160775]

Love all your content, and I’m a big animal fan❤

[@pietro160775]

I wonder if it’s something you’re putting out, energy wise that’s making him react

[@benicio1967]

I wonder if he’s remembering the stress from last night and felt a bit mad for a moment. He’s so beautiful.

[@nicolemarie3037]

What a smart, beautiful, kind soul 🤍

[@mercyreign969]

My male cape is being very moody and aggressive as I’ve just returned home from a week away (neurosurgery). It sucks. My female is fine. We are working through it!

[@hurlburtfamcamp6476]

Another awesome video Jaime! I love how yall love your birds, and work with them according to (or sometimes around) their moods.... Could you share some information on the aviaries yall use? I would love to get a large walk in for my spoiled quakers, but am having no luck finding any.

[@BirdTricks]

www.birdtrickscages.com/

[@vljenewein]

Parrot math: Parrot says " If I have 3 nut and you take away 2 nuts, how many fingers do you have left?"

[@carolcatturner61]

I always hear the birds who do that …who were taught “kisses” every time their former owners had them step up (often very attentive adoring Children who outgrow them and trade in their relationships for relationships with other humans paying less and less attention to them… or they got ditched in a breakup and the person who PAID for the bird, rather than the one who the bird preferred got “custody” and the bird becomes a possession, then an annoyance. I think it was part of their “ritual” with a human…it’s the sound of kisses… it’s attachment Human/Bird ritual communication for affection… and part of their attachment rituals with his former humans, I bet. He can love you and be trying to adapt …but still struggle with the extreme FRUSTRATION he feels at not being able to “attach or interact in a way HE understands” from a whole lifetime of communication with other humans…so he is like “WTF is going on …this human doesn’t act right” … Even when he has been “abandoned” …to a terrific situation by pretty terrific (if not perfect-who is?) former owners. Love Bean! and You! and Your Mini-Me!! I feel like he misses Kisses! And is being aggressive - but you are for sure doing all the right stuff…except maybe letting it go on too long to get it for the camera. That feels some kind a way to my heart. But I know it’s temporary. But it’s fun watching him learn how to Bird with You. And of course he misses his people and grief is normal and I hear his heart!! If you could make a 3 second TIK TOK Video of just the segment from this one of you looking DIRECTLY into the camera and saying “There is ONLY so much ‘Petting’ that is GOOD for Birds” and his “bite” and just have it repeat over and over and over…that would be awesome!

[@ava.444.]

have you ever worked with a bird that was constantly biting, and no matter what nothing would help? i had a bird that i adored, but after 3 years i had to give him to my neighbor (who works with birds) because i tried training for so long

[@budgiebreder]

That was a “come on human!!!” Nibble. But very interesting 🤔

[@abdulayub6234]

Well that's nice that people know there are days when you fail and days you do good.

[@Hummingbird25]

That’s a everyday occurrence with my new baby green cheek conure - the biting

[@Ansonidak]

Green cheeks have a reputation as nippers.

[@kellyparis6995]

You are best trainer I love the way you explain what to do and not to do ,I lost my baby a month ago and I miss oli it’s hard to loose my best friend couldn’t breathe without my boy , Oliver me how to love 💕 again our bond

[@rhywnn]

Question.... Do birds stack emotions and triggers? I work with a lot of high drive dogs and we see this. It can be several small things the dog gets ramped up from or things that on their own are not a problem but together stack and are. You may get a redirection or hyped up behavior.

[@amandacovington2548]

Thank you 🎉

[@wildside306]

Very informative video, thank you!

[@nikkocara5982]

It’s cute tho how, they bully you and yet you still have a sweet disposition and ❥with them.

[@jodyhowellsmead]

My grey used to click for different reasons. Sometimes it was positive (as a greeting or just before a treat) and sometimes negative (if it was something he was scared off he's growl and click and the hackles would go up.) I'd have to read his body language to tell the difference between the two.

[@gladyscaparratto4293]

African Greys love to beak, although not sure what it means. Mine beaks me all the time but has never bitten me and she is about 20 years old!

[@jennip13]

he still does that whole exorcist head twisting into the palm thing, I love it!!!

[@MrJdubz100]

There was an African Gray on Marlene Mccohens channel that did an even more exorcist looking head thing. The way he twisted his head was unlike anything I had seen an African Gray do. Its more like something you might expect from an owl.

[@shuermarvin577]

Hopefully Beanie feels better soon.

[@haijimiiwaizumi9765]

My quaker has been being like this quite often, likely dur to spring hormones. The way he mellows himself out is by being outside!

[@AnnaAnna-kx1wm]

Aww poor bean hope he feels better

[@ultramaximusreviews]

He's just a mischief boy LOL

[@91KP_SilentEchoes]

Try not to act like you're afraid. Animals will usually be like "if you are afraid of me I will give you a reason". Best of luck 🙃

[@isitoveryet9525]

The way he goes right back to asking for pets was kinda cute 😬

[@katarinazweng]

I love Bean so much 🥺

[@butisitsugarapproved618]

Me too

[@curiositykilledthecat5118]

parrots are just feathered cats. "Pet me, pet me, *attacks your hand* Why aren't you petting me?"

[@spanishflyIam]

do you have any cameras facing the aviary’s?

[@jacquelinesandell4680]

Hes so cute, I must of missed a few episodes as I thought he was dropped off somewhere. How come he's back? I'm glad he is lol

[@ShawnaCostonPhD]

Awwwwww look at that baby.

[@kellyparis6995]

I hit the wrong key ; he and I did everything how long should I wait to get another beautiful Quaker or even a African gray thx for giving us the opportunity to learn and love these beautiful babies.

[@dellieb6337]

You do awesome training, sometimes my ringneck grabs his treat aggressively too.

[@sophistichistory4645]

Three things...... 1) That wasn't a bite. It's what I call an "admonishment chomp". They're not given to injure but rather to express displeasure or in an attempt to establish a little better positioning in the "pecking order". 2) That looks like a small, not too deep, puncture.....so, just keep an eye out for infection or abscess formation. 3) Although the injury doesn't look too bad or deep, it is where the main muscle mass that moves the upper beak is situated so chewing and manipulation might be a bit sore going for ol' Bean. Consider making up a little special food that requires no chewing and can be fed in "beads" from a 10cc syringe. Hot, cooked oatmeal A jar of veggie or fruit baby food A dollop of smooth peanut butter Put all ingredients into a blender and puree adding hot water until it the consistency of Portland cement or brownie mix. This was a staple for my assorted birds as a wonderful source of extra calories and bonding, (I found I could even add baby food that had meat as well). Also......I'd do a careful inspection of that outdoor aviary looking for broken wires or exposed nails, screws and fasteners, since that does look like puncture injury. Now, I don't know what other birds were in that aviary, so, it is possible it was inflicted by another bird, (which might be the reason he was hanging from the roof throughout the night), but, you can better assess that.

[@muurrarium9460]

So, he is growing up? Putting his foot down (a lot) One of my greys (male) can sit for scritches for hours! (Unfortunately also does not bother to move aside for pooping during those sessions any more, so I have to time them ;) ) The other one (female) has a 2-minute maximum, but will come back for encores. But yes, they will use the head down, chin tucked in as a threat-display, NOT an invitation to cuddles. Usually they will have the head real high and tucked in, cuddles-position is more of a relaxed 'faceplant'. Easy to see the difference by looking at the eyes (looking, not staring, or you will get into trouble): they will stare at you/ your hand if they are not in the mood for any nonsense, If they want scritches the eyes 'lose focus': sort of bliss-out even before it happens. And of course the breathing is a dead-give-away, they do tense up.

[@GS__]

The "bite" is at 2:52.

[@audri359]

I'm only able to talk and give stritches to my boyfriends african grey. when giving him scritches he will "bite" like that too, I think it's his way of saying "hey I don't want that there" lol. I love african greys and budgies :)

[@nabeelahmayman2537]

Wow wow wow that back fluffing feathers makes Soo much sense now.. I get bit a lot when those back feathers fluff up .. mine also asked for head rubs and then bites really hard. When those back feathers fluff up... Thanks Sooo much ... I think he's in pain and his face hurts so maybe this is why he doesn't really want to "work or teach" today...

[@jlpadberg9949]

I'm not trying to be a smart alec but how do you keep them from pooping all over? Your intuition and patience are great!

[@rhondayastro2136]

Do U have video outside to seethe attacks? That may help. Your great with these birds. I love it.

[@portosportos1507]

he is so cute 💖

[@katherinoday1458]

Poor Birdie is not well and not happy. Hope you have him checked.

[@bettykulinski9814]

I had a green cheek conure, I don't have him anymore that's why I love watching your videos, I am going to get another bird but not quite yet. I want to hatch my own baby. And this time I want a sun conure. My birds name was Crackers. I want that closeness you get from raising the baby myself, but I want to make sure I know what I am doing. 🐣

[@lauraschreiber5824]

Is it possible that there is a racoon or neighbor's cat that may have caused a night fright?

[@HaleyStark.]

There are cameras, like baby monitering cameras you could set up, so if anything weird happens you can go back and check footage.

[@domenicsandri2740]

He’s getting pissed, because he isn’t getting the cuddling he wants. “Cuddle me woman, or else I’ll bite ya!”.

[@missstormer2638]

i admit mine bit me bad a year ago, i haven't been able to handle him since. It was a really bad bite on palm of my hand took ages to heal. I was lucky not to lose a chunk. I was hand feeding him some treats in his cage & he didn't want the treats he wanted to come out, but i was going out so.. bloodbath.

[@MUSTIKACULTURE]

Burung yang cantik.pervec❤️

[@sophiethehuman4469]

My grey clicks like that as well and for her it's a a curser for aggression if I try to pick her up. She's not often a biter but you know she's upset when that happens. Interesting that other greys do it too

[@OpenGL4ever]

My male grey parrot did the same clicks and it was usually a cursor for aggression too.

[@kfl611]

Here is my philosophy on birds - do they have beaks? Yes? Well then they will at some time bite you. Just like cats, do they had claws, then they will scratch you. They can't help it. But they both make up for it by being very loving, most of the time.

[@mariemcgrath8681]

I can definitely tell when my birds are in a 'bad' mood ... not nice. Like us, something has upset them, it usually passes, & all is OK ! Iike you, I never push a negative situation.

[@HiIamChels]

Have you been in contact with Morgan the macaw with the bum foot? How is she doing lately?

[@Steve-ou2kd]

I've had my Grey for 18 years now and he has spells of being needy and wants lots of head scratches which can end in a bite, I've put it down to him thinking he is the boss as its me indulging him and he also has bad moods for no apparent reason. I can loose his attention for a week or so he becomes distant but then he gets back to being himself I think its greys being greys.🙂

[@heatherm6105]

I wonder if putting security cameras up would save you a lot of questioning what’s happening. Amazon has pretty good night feed cameras and run on batteries too with cloud upload in wifi areas and card upload if not. Even opening an online feed so ppl can watch your birds whenever they’re having a hard day would be pretty cool and you can show training in real time so it’s not as much instruction from you but I think we could still learn a lot from that :-)

[@kelpiegirl]

Just my 2 cents. I believe he's being top bird. His posturing, slow measured walk, snippiness. Grooming him on command is instilling top bird in his mind. Access to you needs to be on your terms.

[@laurenk.7325]

(Nodding) Honestly I was thinking along the same lines..

[@joshuadeakins2929]

Parrots have no natural inclination towards any sort of hierarchy, this line of thought is based of false and outdated information.

[@kelpiegirl]

@@joshuadeakins2929disagree, and that's okay.

[@sarahholland2600]

We all have off days or set backs. Maybe the speed of the new changes is getting to him & he needs a slower pace of change ( not that it's unrealistically fast just that he has a lot to take in that's new) . It took my rescue cat a year to be really fully relaxed .

[@malanisuewheeler8092]

I watching his eyes when you when getting up close. His pupils were flashing between medium and large.

[@lastlight4252]

Good luck!

[@madmaxxx9711]

He seems hormonal and/or anxious which leads to bites and other behaviors that are not 'normal', grays are roughnecks and like to 'fight ' things which may have caused Bean's injury. I agree with less head scritches since it seems to make it worse especially when they are hormonal. I rescued an African Gray that was kept caged for 15 yrs with the last 2 years being covered up. He came to me very, very angry and would throw his whole body at the cage when anyone approached. I completely understand what you are explaining when you say Bean acts 'angry', my gray will rip the treat out of your hand and throw it sometimes a few feet away particularly in the morning so I joke that he's not a morning bird. My gray also makes the clicking sound or a raspberry sound when he is unhappy, it is purposeful and should be heeded, their body language is pretty easy to read but they can also trick you since the can flip their head upside down extremely fast. Grays are extremely intelligent and keeping them in a cage covered up is extremely cruel and very traumatizing to them. I've gotten bitten so many times often drawing blood but I keep trying to work with him scritching him on his head is when the bites happen. He doesn't step up and the problem is he is deathly afraid of anything shaped like a stick so trying to get him to step up can lead to bites. I tried using gloves but most birds are afraid of them and getting bitten is really painful so the progress has been slow. Good luck with Bean, I know that it can be painful but don't give up on him.

[@Chris_Gordon_1973]

Aggressive or defensive, only Bean can tell us in his ways x.

[@angelscinta7971]

When kobe does the feathers thing that's a sign of content and his way of saying pet this.

[@laxahachygreens7289]

Hi,for how much did you bought him?

[@michellenafziger6558]

I'm no expert, but his face may have an abscess, it looked a little swollen under the cut. It could be the camera angle too. You are so hyper aware of all your birds. Love this channel ❤

[@BirdTricks]

It was just a superficial scratch that healed nicely and quickly. ❤️

[@lrsco]

Unfortunately people have tried to domesticate wild birds but parrots in particular are wanting a mate for life and a familiar environment and routine. Keeping all that in mind and and the intelligence level has helped me with my umbrella cockatoo

[@nadeembirdsfarm7222]

my favourite bird Grey Parrot so looking great and beautiful

[@AdelaDelacruz-t3m]

Hi l have one bird African grey but his is tree years old and his baited me what can l do for him not to bait thank you

[@nabeelahmayman2537]

Hi from Cape Town South Africa. I have a male grey 8 years old hand hatched and raised.. for 4 years I wasn't able to be with him because I got married but he stayed with my grandmother in the house he grew up in. I've had him since 3 months old. Since last year I stopped clipping wings when I learnt about free flight.. yesterday he pulled out 8 of his long wing feathers. 4 were previously cut and 4 were new. There was blood on the "root". I want to know why sometimes he bites really hard.. also when he is on my lap or arm and he asked for head scratches I rub down his neck to his back just above his oil gland and then he fluffs up and prunes his feathers while im rubbing his back... I remembered this when you said "fluffing up body feathers is a sign of eff you" so I'm confused... The past year I have been trying to get him used to my 5yo son and 2y6m ok daughter allowing them to feed him sunflower seeds... It's the only time he gets to have them is out of their hands and so far not biting... He even trusts my son to pick him up off the floor ... But not my daughter.... Sorry for replying so late. I recently came across your channel and would love to be more educated on my grey for behaviour and diet. And learn about BG macaws to hopefully get a pair in the future as I've read BG macaws are less biting that RY macaws... Your channel is amazing and I enjoy binge watching the videos here...

[@gabby-nx8zm]

Hi, i just got my budgies last month and they are still very afraid of me . Even if i just want to put my hand in the cage to gife them food they freak out. Any advice would be good.

[@arocks1234567]

youre on the right track, keep watching more bird tricks and flocktalk

[@ChrisPiccoli-l7j]

U have to show know matter what mood he is in..u are in control

[@jessn.2665]

Hes super cute. He can do no wrong.

[@debraschrock3604]

Considering the time of year it is, do you think he is hormonal? My male g2 has been a little wonky too.

[@sherreeroper7656]

Out of all the birds you train with which are your favorite? And which are good for first time parents. Lol, I was thinking cocateil or budgee...

[@p.c.deoliveira3671]

So cute

[@helenthompson5726]

What happened to the colorful tees. I also like vee neck.

[@teamextreme86]

my quaker does that when ive pet him for awhile he just touches and squeezes alittle bit like a little grip idk if its from being over stimulated or what

[@Steve-qn8gn]

I’ve watched quite a few of these videos and this couple is pretty careless with forcing training and co-habitats with mixed species.