Penn Battle III VS Daiwa BG: What's the Difference? Comparison and Review

[@BeardedBrad92]

Check out the full review of the new Penn Battle III here!👇 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoeQm2pvdrOHY6M

[@birddog0077]

You are the reincarnation of Powers Boothe. Great videos sir.

[@tunanorth]

The size numbers do not correspond between the different reel companies, so that kind of comparison is apples-oranges. The Daiwa 4000 size is most comparable to the PENN 5000 size. The PENN 4000 size is most comparable to something in between the Daiwa 3000 and 3500.

[@gabrielduarte3904]

im glad someone else pointed this out =)

[@InshorePursuitFL]

The Daiwa BG runs bigger for sure

[@renny9879]

100%

[@bcask61]

This

[@rchydrozz751]

I agree with this. I have several Daiwa's 4000's and wanted a new 4000 size reel. I bought a Penn 4000 on Amazon not seeing it before I bought it, thinking it would be the same 4000 size. Wrong. The new Peen sitting beside my older Daiwa 4000 makes the Peen look like a 2500 size. Upon first seeing it I thought it was a 2500 mislabeled as a 4000. Seems manufacturers sizes aren't the same across the board. Not dogging the Peen reel, its smooth and for the price is a great reel, just too small for me to take surf fishing on the OBX. Something to consider when purchasing.

[@Getzopurple]

Finally I've been looking for a comparison video for ages

[@klaicspeter8933]

*Bought a 500 for an ultralight rod. It's very smooth **enjoyable.fishing** recommend casts great. One odd thing- the bale wire is a bit heavy diameter in my opinion for a reel of this size. But a great purchase.*

[@afout07]

I've found that the daiwa bg is more comparable to a size larger penn reel. A bg 4000 is very similar to a battle 3 5000 in terms of size, weight, drag, line capacity

[@sandroramos6293]

How bout a teardown of both .you will see the big difference bg have main shaft support wile the penn don't and so mush more . reading the spec of the boxes is not a comparison

[@jasonstokley7274]

Reel sizes from different manufacturers aren't the same. The Penn 4000 is a significantly smaller reel than the BG 4000. A better comparison to the BG 4000 is the Battle 3 5000. The Battle 3 is heavier, holds roughly 30 yards less line, but blows the BG away in lbs of drag at 25lbs.

[@gabrielduarte3904]

as someone else pointed before, the sizes are not even comparable, i think both reels are great, i like the machined aluminum gear on the penn reel, but on the other hand, the size and quality of the cast aluminum gear of the BG is second to none. and yes, you should compare real reel equal sizes, not size numbers.. that is why they mismatch so much in weight, drag and line cap.

[@yangearthratlarry]

THE BG 5000 HAS 22 lbs OF DRAG & HOLDS 480 YARDS OF 40lb TEST BRAIDED LINE A MANUAL BAIL, WHICH I LIKE !!! ( 40lb BRAIDED IS THE SAME SIZE AS 10lb MONO )

[@Nofishnoclue]

Mate the daiwa bg 4000 is larger than the penn 4000 so the weight point is a bit irrelevant

[@flyemifyougotem9543]

Just bought the penn battle 3 and and straight out of the box it would lock up so back to cadence the cheap stuff but reliable

[@BeardedBrad92]

Fly’em If You Got’em dang, for real? I’ve not heard of anyone having that problem

[@flyemifyougotem9543]

@@BeardedBrad92 bought it from field and stream Really looking forward to getting one but it was a let down it felt like something was hung up inside I didn’t want to mess with it so back it went

[@bcask61]

The BG is the smoothest reel for the price I have ever used.

[@nicholashosslogan3444]

I run the penn slammer 440 ssg and ive used it for 11 going in 12 years and absolutely love it, its in a st. Croix medium heavy 6'6" and fish from boat/kayak/on land, but will be doing more kayak fishing this year. Its a great combo, leaving my 7 foot rod for in boat fishing.

[@jerome7743]

Which one is better ?

[@RogerFreeman-zk6lp]

Just watched this and answered several questions I had. Do you have any on rod comparisons?

[@theblackstocksfam1780]

Just my experience and opinion... spend the extra money and go for the Spinfisher or the Saragosa. Either are solid as a rock and very well sealed for salt water fishing.

[@robbiebaker2412]

The question i have is about the bearings. I like the added line capacity of the diawa. However, I have never went surf fishing. I am looking for my first surf fishing reel. Are the sealed bearings of the Penn reel a better option for extending the life of the reel. I'm assuming the sealed bearings would mean the reel should last longer? I will only be using the reel for surf/saltwater fishing about once per month or so considering I live about 1 1/2 to 2 hours from the closest beach to me. What advice do you have?

[@707SonomaComa]

Why does the Battle look so much bigger? And it has less line capacity. Is there a video of a side-by-side tear down to see the difference between the gears, bearings, & drag washers?

[@stephendowney206]

Great comparison Brad thanks for the review

[@CommonManBrewing]

Great video…Two years old but something worth saying is that both of these reels will last and you can get parts for both Daiwa and Penn. Penn parts are relatively easier to find locally but Daiwa will get you any part you need too, shipped out to you. I don’t fish Shimano reels anymore due to the problem of not easily having parts available.

[@jasontat3969]

Like the content. Have used several different reels for salwater. Im sold on PENN. Curently have ENN Pusuit, PENN Battle, n PENN Feirce.Have paired my reals to specific rods. Do alot of inshore n wade fishing Saltwater.

[@tommyd688]

I was a BG fan ..until I had to work on one.. Going to migrate from a BG 5000 to a Battle 3 6000..

[@BeardedBrad92]

I still use both reels and no issues out of either, but I’m Penn guy for sure!

[@oceanmark2960]

Hi.. comparing with this 2 reel which one is best , penn battle (3)6000 vs daiwa bg Magsealed.. I am planning to buy I am little confused which 1 to buy plz your suggestion.. Targeting for Big Fish like a GT & barramundi..

[@seamurda100]

If I'm throwing artificial in the surf, I think a better option than both of those is the Shimano Nasci 5000. Same price. The Nasci also has a seal at the base of the rotor, which does a good job of keeping salt water from entering the gear box.

[@dylanclay2741]

The Nasci has a graphite frame. No thanks

[@cjahlert]

Appreciate the comparison, looking at the battle 3 to pair with a 8 ft. Star Arial rod, mainly for surf casting, jetty and pier.

[@rafaelnieves2640]

Is there a difference between the gold and black penn battle 3 vs the black and red penn battle 3 8000 HS?

[@markdavid1479]

Yes the HS has a higher gear ratio

[@allenjacob1189]

I had two Battles and two BG 4000 size. All 4 reels were bought around same time. Other people use my reel on the boat . I fish Fresh water stripe bass and both the BG reels failed after 1 year . Gears locked and bails broke. My Penn reels are still going strong . After the BG reels failed i purchased 1 more Battle and 1 Clash and no more problems.

[@randygoforth5562]

Ive been hearing both are better for different reasons so I flipped a coin n ended up with the battle 3 and I haven't ever liked a reel near as much as this one ever in my life

[@BeardedBrad92]

It’s an awesome reel for sure!

[@TheWrcate]

number 2 thumbs up GO BRAD!

[@BeardedBrad92]

Thanks man!🤙

[@SaltyMcCroryFishing]

Which one of these is best for surf fishing for marlin?

[@SaltyMcCroryFishing]

@@tunanorth I use a zebco

[@BeardedBrad92]

I’d use the Daiwa. The BG stands got Big Game so it would be perfect for marlin

[@SaltyMcCroryFishing]

@@BeardedBrad92 BG it is then.

[@SaltyMcCroryFishing]

@@tunanorth if my zebco can land a yellow fin tuna from the shore then it can land a marlin.

[@BeardedBrad92]

Big Game sounds better

[@jasonrobbins7269]

For surf fishing my opinion is the BG holds up far better my battle 2 didn’t last a year before seizing up my BG and diawa fuego’s have far more hrs on the water still smooth as butter.

[@newjersey-thesupertrucker]

He missed the part about battle lll CNC cut gears

[@WaniBorneoChoice]

penn reel is the best ... I only use Penn wrath4000 6.2.1 only for beach fishing ... various types of fish have been lost .... no need for a large reel .... light and easy to carry😁

[@rachid.53]

Not really daiwa better

[@angelnavejar2622]

PENN all the way buddy!!

[@BeardedBrad92]

Agree!!

[@russellawson9256]

PENN for the win all day every day

[@tygoom]

I know you brought up weight for kyackers for both the 4000s However data wise the Diawa bg 3500 sits better with the penn 4000 even that match up it goes to the bg I own one vs a penn slammer for the money and power and ruggedness the bg out preforms the slammer especially in the surf

[@perrykim5732]

What type of fishing line is that

[@BeardedBrad92]

Power pro

[@stephenwink8376]

I bought a dawaii back about years ago. I had to because my abu Garcia surf rod and reels bearings were burnt out from 2 really big skates. But I bought this dawaii went fishing next day and the winder on reel broke in half in my hand while fighting a good sized fish. I lost the fish and the reel broke. That says it all

[@stopmotionkehidupan9736]

which one is better Penn battle 3 hs with daiwa bg sw spinning?

[@vinkyhoo9543]

For fishing bottom+jig which one better sir use at sea?

[@BeardedBrad92]

They’re both great reels. I like to stick with Penn, but you can’t go wrong with either one

[@vinkyhoo9543]

@@BeardedBrad92 ehmm oke sir i"ll try it pen

[@bcp5296d]

Very similar reels. I think penn is the easier takedown and reassemble, however both will fail if you get a good bit of saltwater on them over the years. I don't have the time to do a full takedown after every or every other use, so I will probably just buy a slammer.

[@Ilveroimpiccioneviaggiatore]

Bravo grazie , ho uno spinfisher ma proverò subito il Bg👌

[@fishhubbd]

Outstanding Content !!! Really Awesome !!!

[@BeardedBrad92]

Thank you!!

[@garymcintyre9000]

The Diawa 4000 is the same size as the Battle III 6000.

[@kirkvoltz5821]

Great vid…. Confirms my love for Penn reels…. My entire arsenal…. Including my little light action rod (4lb Braid, 6 lb fluorocarbon) has a Penn Battle 1000 😊👍

[@ucm7ucm791]

I’m looking for a panfish reel. I have always used Daiwa for this. I’m looking into the Penn Battlle 3 1000. To try out on a st croix panfish rod. Daiwa BG 1500 or Penn Battle 3 1000 ??? Please help me decide lol

[@franciscocruz2910]

bg 4000 is like 5000 size battle III bg come release 2019 i think price is about zises dont matter the brand

[@chevydude5o2]

I would love to see a video of you at a football field casting 100 yards, I feel like that would be a world record

[@redfishbluefish965]

I think a 100yds is normal with an ultra fast medium-heavy 9ft rod on a 20lbs braid and 2oz tackle weight. Without much wind of course.

[@chevydude5o2]

@@redfishbluefish965 you mean 100 feet? Yea, 100 yards, have you ever stood on a football field. I doubt you could cast that far

[@redfishbluefish965]

@@chevydude5o2 I thought that was 120yrs... maybe I'm only going 60 or 70yrds then...

[@redfishbluefish965]

@@chevydude5o2 im throwing from the pier anyways...

[@josephdoby6411]

Bearded Brad, hey brother I am enjoying these informative style videos.

[@demhaakriahk8916]

Very good review .. Thank you Sir..I think ill go for BG because it is smaller.

[@BeardedBrad92]

Thanks!

[@kenswitzer4133]

Thanks again Brad!👍👍👍👍🤙🏻✌️👌😁

[@deanmiller6177]

It's odd that the diawa bg 4000 weighs more than the battle 3 4000 and yet the diawa bg 3000 weighs less than the Penn battle 3 3000..I would like diawa to explain the logic behind that.

[@michaelgreene]

Wanted to share my experience with those reels. I have been using battles since they were just battles. Before the II's and III's. Never had a failure. They just got old. Beat up. Bought two BG;s when they first came out. a 3000 and a 4000. Brand new 4000 had problems from the start. Not sure what the failure mechanism was or what part failed but if I set the hook on a fish and didn't miss the fish, the handle would spin backwards at a high rate of speed. Sometimes striking my knuckles. If I missed the fish it would not do it. The handle would not turn backwards normally. Only on hook set. Sent it to an authorized dealer and it took about 2 months for them to get the replacement part and return my reel to me. This was a brand new reel. So If you factor in reliability I would go with the Penn.

[@dylanclay2741]

I had the opposite experience. Had a battle ll 2500 last only 1 season before the main and pinion gear went out . Threw it in the trash and never got another 1. I dropped penn a long time ago because they went real cheap especially on their new fathom lever drag series.

[@michaelgreene]

@@dylanclay2741 Bad deal. But, my BG was brand new. Didn't last a day. I have since moved up to the MQ and it is a great reel. No issues and have been using it heavily for months.

[@Mavarise]

great vid except audio is only one on one side, makes it unwatchable for headphone users

[@franksaunders6534]

Both are good reels. One notable difference is the paintwork on the daiwa BG holds up much better when rock fishing.

[@4trx3vxn4]

I want a battle 3 I notice they have a large spool capacity, but I would be using it in freshwater, I just want somthing quality. Say I only spool up 150-175 yards of braid. Will that extra space on the spool I don’t fill, effect my casting? Or do they cast better when spooled fully?

[@tmac6593]

They'll cast better fully spooled

[@4trx3vxn4]

@@Joe_Regular_Schmoe facts. I've actually had the battle, 3 for a few months now and I love it. I did have ,200 yards of braid on it but I've used a lot and now I'm down to about 100-120 yards witch only fills the spool maybe a little over 1/4 way. Certainly not half way, but it still bombs on cast and operates just fine. Favorite reel by far I love it

[@demolaj1]

please help ! BG 8000 OR Penn dx 8000 ?

[@christopherjenkins2373]

I personally will never buy a Chinese made reel or any reel from Pure Fishing. Of course I only use vintage reels which because of their longevity and durability always get my vote. I currently have 193 vintage reels made before 1980. If you’ve never used a 1950s Luxor Saumon Mer you have truly missed something. Week before last I caught the largest fish of my life on the Outer Banks of NC. It wasn’t a fish I wanted to catch but was a very difficult but enjoyable 30 minute fight. It was a Stingray over four feet across. I caught it with a massive Shimano SSG 7000 rear drag. That vintage reel has 14 drag washers in it. I enjoyed your comparison and what you said makes sense however I have totally disassembled a Daiwa BG 5000 and found it an admirable and durable design. I just don’t like modern reels.

[@BeardedBrad92]

I’ve never used any vintage reels, but I’m sure they were definitely built better than most reels today. Just like everything else out there

[@chinaskibukowski7747]

You have to wonder how he can see anything on that computer screen. Come on man, clean that thing off every 5 years or so.

[@raulalonzomarquez6779]

I have the penn battle 3 6000 how should i do the maintenance on it if you don't mind

[@shimasfaris2917]

Just rinse in fresh water after use now and again

[@philipsnyman1407]

I have both in a 8000 and the penn is smoother and works nicer on my 14ft rod with my bg working better on my 12ft

[@rossevans1774]

If you going to compare two brands of reels approximately the same size (4000), then get the two reels that are approximately the same size first!

[@naumanahmadtariq8717]

The Daiwa BG 4000 holds more line as compared to Penn Battle 4000 hence you cannot compare the weight. Its better to compare penn 5000 with daiwa 4000.

[@1planters]

It's not like it used to be. A 4000 size designation means nothing anymore. BG, Nasci and Battle just are not the same sized reels.

[@raphaelclarkrarang889]

which of them is the smallest when it comes to body size?

[@dagolf06]

Daiwa reels run bigger than other brands. A daiwa 2500 is similar to a 3000-3500 in other brands.

[@frankdiaz4761]

Penn and Diawa use different size reels with the same model numbers. You cannot compare the same models numbers, thay are different sizes. You must look at the specification of each reel, which you obviously did not do. Please do your research before giving out miss leading information

[@WisGuy4]

The Daiwa has anti reverse and Penn reels do not. I use the anti reverse switch at least a dozen or two times each time I fish. I’m not a fan of just loosening up the drag and pulling the line out which is tough on the hands and has to create extra wear on the drag washers. For me, the lack of an anti-reverse switch is almost as dumb as installing the handle on the right side of a spinning reel, casting with the right hand, and then switching hands to hold the rod in the left hand. I bought a Penn for surf fishing on a Florida trip a few years ago. Last year I bought a Shimano and left the Penn at home when I went back to Florida.

[@drevil4454]

What I learned from Penn, Shimano and Daiwa is this. It depends on where in the world you are living. I'm a South African and I can tell you Penn comes at a premium over here. So... Penn you are out!! Funny enough in the 80's it was quite affordable!!! Next comes Shimano... Spares tooooo hard to come by and you pay and wait for repairs. So... Shimano out. That leaves me with Daiwa which is affordable and easy to obtain.

[@garywarren2856]

Which one are you getting me for Christmas? 😂🤣

[@BeardedBrad92]

The Penn Wrath

[@russellawson9256]

Can I also weigh in a get a Penn Wrath for Christmas to? 😎😎

[@chechebrown6573]

I’m still trying to decide, maybe both

[@BeardedBrad92]

CheChe Brown Official both is definitely the right decision!!

[@lukemarais41]

From my experience, the 4000 in the Penn is not the same size as the 4000 in the BG.

[@jakelencher817]

i got a penn battle 3 dx 5000, i use it for the jetty along with a penn battalion 10 ft, i used to have a daiwa bg but it got taken by a fish, the penn casts nice and i still havent fought a fish on it but when summer comes around ima be doing alot of jetty fishing.

[@BeardedBrad92]

The DX is awesome!

[@jakelencher817]

@@BeardedBrad92 i didnt even know it existed untill i went to my local offshore/inshore/flyfishing/everything to do with fishing shop, i think they hooked me up with a good reel.

[@Mavarise]

Would you say the bg or battle 3 casts further?

[@WoodenCrook]

I have both of these reels. BG 4500 and battle 3 le 4000. They're both great options. The only thing I will say bad about the BG is the drag is super quiet. Other than that they're not bad options for the price point.

[@Mavarise]

I have heard frome some that the BG casts further, have u noticed if any of them actually cast better/worse?

[@WoodenCrook]

@@Mavarise the bg 100% feels better to cast and does cast farthest.

[@Mavarise]

@@WoodenCrook alright thank you, will have to get the bg then

[@rickmetz769]

I thought it was a great show Brad sorry the one thumbs down guy didn't get it, very informative, I appreciate the content, pretty in depth for us KZbin fans, lol

[@BeardedBrad92]

Thanks man!!

[@tonykomer2997]

Very good? Anyone can read specs off a web page and hold two reels with one not even being reviewed, thats a great review? What's a bad one? Try going over to someone with real tech knowledge that also breaks down the reels and shows you differences. Not to mention bothers to know what the ht100 drag is. Tackle Advisors is one of the best for reel reviews and tear downs etc. Its also not comparing two reels that use completely different sizing scales and not picking the two closest then giving points for weight or line capacity. Why not compare the 4000 Shimano Stradic to a Daiwa 4000 BG. After all they have the same number duh!?! To bad they are 2x size difference.

[@jsantef]

I wish they wouldn't have taken reverse switch off of the Penn.

[@brucedelagarza9641]

My crosswind gear in my batte 3 5000 broke for some reason ad I can't find a replacement..I just bought it..the ereplacement website for penn reels s*cks.

[@stanleywilson2844]

I will not give up my diawa reel i have the 4000 and 8000. Have not had any problems. But i like this vidio

[@brandonhernandez9260]

How’s hat Daiwa 8000? I was looking at the Penn battle III 8000 and the Daiwa as well as other Penn models but curious of the Daiwa

[@craigtheophilus2237]

Dont talk about 2 ounces like its 2 pounds .without a scale we might not make out the difference. I love my bg and I am getting a battle 3.

[@MattsKennels]

I could tell lol. Bet

[@awiesirip8648]

Penn reel..👍

[@BeardedBrad92]

Agree!🤙

[@elijahf111]

daiwa bg 4000 is WAY bigger than the penn battle 4000

[@tzora6462]

Clean that laptop bro

[@kenson6725]

Battle 3000 and BG 2500 are my favorite for slinging lures in the kayak. I have mostly BG’s for surf, bought them for the capacity and gear. Can’t go wrong with either, IMHO.

[@BeardedBrad92]

Agreed. Both are great reels.

[@destineennicholasgallagher3315]

Using wife's account , but this is Nicholas, I actually commented months ago on this vid but anyways, just invested in the Penn battle 3 3000 yesterday and it's going to be connected on the st. Croix 6'6" medium rod, gonna slay like crazy

[@Mavarise]

Have you noticed any difference in casting distance between the two?

[@vsonic86]

BG all day!

[@dudeonacow9917]

Nice!

[@tvang7505]

My choice is take the one made from JAPAN.

[@liennguyenthi6568]

Some segments in the video are stamped not adjacent to each other

[@ReviewsBuster57]

Hello and how are you doing today? My Question is why? is it anybody are giving the right Honest review of this product? is it because you all are getting it for free?? and you must give the right review so you can get another free things from them??

[@myronchamberlain7734]

Pen reels are not the same since they are made in china I always bought penn reels but the stainless parts are made of cheap metal and get rusty

[@fabriziobocelli3059]

Pen battle2 percfett filament....qualitet...stanleiss steel....salso sistema lagher good

[@fredfable5655]

why compare two different reels? is like...Lame!?

[@ryanbless3970]

To see the differences, before you spend you hard earned money. Lame? No, not one bit. Especially for a dedicated fisherman.

[@jamarmckay5514]

Are You kidding right now your really putting a Daiwa reel vs a Penn battle 3 that’s superior to that u need to compare that BG TO A DANG LEWS salt water will eat and destroy the BG I fish in the field a lot and I have destroyed the BG and I still are using my penn Battle3 two years in and that’s salt water kayak fishing, boat fishing , surf fishing and peer fishing. Is see the BG as a lake or pond or river reel they die too fast

[@davidstokes925]

Penn is more$$$. IMHO you’re comparing apples to oranges. Come on Brad!

[@renny9879]

Who cares about the difference in size?? You can go up a size if you need more line. As people have pointed out, you can’t compare one brand 4000 to another brand 4000. People want to know about the difference in build quality and performance. This is such an uninformed video..SMH.

[@newjersey-thesupertrucker]

Again battle lll holds 350yrs of 20lb braid

[@kencleg7721]

Take care of your stuff the penns will last a lifetime Iam 64 have my 140/146 06 09 500 151 jigmasters Penn spinning 705 712 s still used for surf from iwas 15-25 years old and mostly my brothers that he didn’t want anymore

[@maikp5505]

Bro you seriously need to clean the screen of that laptop.

[@whewdoggie1]

WHAT! You can't compare reels by manufacturer size! You need to compare by line capacity and maybe drag capacity. A Peen 4000 is a different size from a diawa 4000 and also different from a shimano 4000. This entire comparison is just dumb.

[@deanchase7904]

Just say your a Penn guy

[@delreal17]

Comparison on 2 different size reels 🤣

[@heliooliveira6665]

The Daiwa Bg IS way better, durable ,smother action !

[@barclaysauers255]

2 whole oz. Really people. Stay off the soy or stay home!

[@epickillers1030]

Took my brand new Battle II 5000 for a spin yesterday for the very first time and I hooked a 20lb yellowtail using a Ugly Stik X2 (medium hard) rod kzbin.infoUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . This combo was recommended on some website and it did not disappoint me. The reel is smooth, the drag click is pretty cool cause i think it adds to the excitement of fighting the fish, personally the drag is my favorite part. I use braid and 300 yards will fill the entire spool. This combo is my main setup from now on although I have to disclose I am new to fishing.

[@oalves92]

@oalves92 há 0 segundos Penn are good reels (Sargus ; Battle; Slamer top) but spare parts forget. I waited 6 months plus 5 months to have repaired two of my Penn reels. PENN NO MORE. Daiwa BG *****