Bears New Stadium mess somehow gets more ugly

Discussing the Chicago Bears new stadium

[@nathanr5825]

This is so stupid. If the Bears want all the revenue from all the events, than move to Arlington Heights and own the stadium, outright. You cannot have it both ways.

[@scotttild]

Pay for it on the own dime and they can have all the revenue also. They can’t get tax payer money and expect to own it outright. Davis only gets part of the revenue and none from other events that are held there like concerns. Tax payers own that building

[@pfury67]

Arlington Heights makes 1000% more sense for every reason. Soldier Field is in an absolute dead zone.

[@bc7013]

why wouldn't you try to have it both ways?

[@Roodoca]

Wanting to keep all the revenue, is delusional.

[@joeylawn36111]

So true. Lemme get this straight - They want the City of Chicago to GIVE them several billion dollars, make ton$ of money off the new development, and not give anything back? Umm, NO. (Yeah, it might actually be done that way elsewhere, but it still doesn’t make any sense).

[@91_C4_FL]

Back in the gilded age, the millionaires (who’d be billionaires by today’s standards)would flex their wealth by building fancy things for the public. Grand Central Terminal is a great example. They should go back to that instead of asking for handouts.

[@jameskeffer2972]

“oH bUt iM rIcH iM bEtTeR tHaN eVeRyOnE eLsE I dOnT hAvE tO pAy”

[@coryfeldman-hz2yj]

Well said.

[@jayadams9561]

Blame the Los Angelas for doing that for the Brooklyn Dodgers

[@biggslighter1950]

As a Bears Fan, the taxpayers should not pay a CENT for this. The cheap McKaskeys can pay for it with loans. Tax Payers are still paying for the bill for the Soldier Field renovations from 20 years ago. Also if they want to lower the cost, move it away from the lake shore. That is prime real estate that could be used for condos and parks. Why are we still trying to build sports stadiums there?

[@MiggerPlease]

I'm gay too buddy lol

[@daviddavis6975]

You elected Lori Lightfoot and you are worried about the Bears wasting taxpayer money?

[@stanhry]

Why isn’t the current field paid off? Maybe another failure of government.

[@overbanked]

​@daviddavis6975 Now they have Brandon Johnson, even worst than Lightfoot. He's an even more radical Marxist and less charismatic version of Lightfoot

[@MiggerPlease]

@@stanhry too many minorites

[@MR404able]

The bears need to get outta Chicago and move to Arlington heights there they can have all the revenue from concerts, events, and Superbowls. They won't need to lease anything from the Chicago park district. They will own their own land . Seems better than paying a lease to the park district.

[@isthe3rd167]

Other than a better view from the lake, it's closer to the Airport as well as the Hotels. If they want all those events knowing that people will fly into your City and you have your New Statium at Arlington Heights, you also need to build a lodging situation. Adn the public transportation is already built in the area. That's my guess.

[@henryblackman1480]

God no Arlington heights has no legit infrastructure. Keep the Bears by the lake

[@chazzhammer425]

@@henryblackman1480 I hope you're being sarcastic. No infrastructure? Highways all over the place right next to Arlington Park, a freaking trainstop AT THE new stadium location. Room for brand new parking lots/garages. Its a beautiful spot and teh area is clean and safe.

[@davidnunezgf4797]

Yeah because people really fly to Chicago just to get to Arlington Heights 😂😂 you sound like a 🤡 as if Arlington Heights is some vacation destination even if it had a world class stadium

[@mikeehuber]

Go to Arlington heights and take my money!! I want to spend my money on the Bears. Can you imagine the fun that we'll have away from downtown!!

[@coreyrowe4119]

Bears oughta just suck it up and go the Arlington Heights route, even if they can't get the sweet tax deal they so badly desire they'll have full control of their own stadium where they don't have to deal with the Chicago Park District anymore deciding what they can or can't do with their playing field.

[@isthe3rd167]

But Billionaires never want to use their own money on shit. They always want others to flip the bill for them and they reap all the profit.

[@scotttild]

49ers and Rams did and the Vikings did for the most part. All three have increased in value.

[@TimmyMurphy2]

As someone who is originally from Arlington Heights, it is way easier to drive from O’hare to Arlington then O’hare to the city.

[@jeanmillburg3343]

Also Schaumburg has a small single engine plane airport that private and charter planes can fly into. Small airport which would be 20 min away is a huge plus for small private planes.

[@TimmyMurphy2]

@@jeanmillburg3343 yes I have flown in their before small but good for general aviation.

[@Chris-lh7wj]

I’m from New Orleans, and there aren’t many things we do right..but renovating the dome instead of spending billions on something new is one those rare exceptions.

[@jayadams9561]

New Orleans shouldn’t even exist it was build a swamp one more Katrina away from being gone

[@chrancylewhern4443]

As a season ticket holder and a local chicagian... the Bears can kick rocks with this shit offer. This is awful for the tax payers. Arlington is a better location all around. AND I'd closer to Ohare.

[@alexlindsey6446]

Great video....I live in downtown Palatine (I'm 2.5 miles from Arlington Park and 1 Metra Train stop away).... I mention this to establish that I know the Chicagoland area well (have lived here all my life -- 44 years). The only thing I dispute that you said in this video is about a lakefront stadium being easier to access from "people flying into Chicago". Not true. Getting to that lakefront area is one of lifes greastest challenges. It's a cluster __k in that area. Arlington Park is only 13 miles (20 mins away) from O'Hare International Airport. Soldier Field is 19 miles from O'Hare but might as well be 40 miles (if you're driving). Arlington Park land is HUGE and there's a commuter train station right there on site. Literally...as the stop is called "Arlington Park". Problem with the Bears ownership is they aren't liquid cash wealthy. They are asset wealthy. They can't afford to pay for the stadium with their own money....well, they are unwilling to let's leave it at that. I would think they could seek private equity investment in exchange for cash but so far they seem unwilling to part ways with any of the main asset (that being the CHICAGO BEARS NFL team -- company if you will). It's a jazzed up situation at the moment and Kevin Warren is learning that people in this area are not stupid. He needs to come down to Earth and stop trying to gas light taxpayers.

[@Alan-lv9rw]

The Patriots paid for their own stadium. Why can’t other teams do that?

[@scotttild]

49ers Rams did also

[@lkmetal1977]

Trickle down economics made billionaires more greedy.

[@chazzhammer425]

@@scotttild Rams own the Stadium/Property its built on. Bears aren't allowed to own the Chicago Lakefront property so no choice in that location. Bears move to Arlington Heights and they for sure can and would pay the vast majority. The 49ers stadium is owned by Santa Clara Stadium Authority and was builty 10 years ago. The stadiums current value is only $1.7 billion which looking at teh stadium really isn';t that nice/great. The Bears are willing to put up $2 -$2.5 billion themselves. Why doesn't the taxpayers step up and pay the difference? They'll own the stadium not the Bears.

[@thomasfrench2012]

The Packers have won FOUR Super Bowls while playing at Lambeau Filed. That's twice as many Super Bowls as the Bears have even been in! It proves that the Bears DO NOT NEED A NEW STADIUM to win it all. And once the ownership has other income streams, they are going to be even LESS MOTIVATED to have the Bears win championships.

[@RB01.10]

Actually four times, if I read correctly. Packers have 4 Super Bowl wins, Bears have 1. I’ve heard many though say that that Soldier Field is a dump / bad shape and outdated. And as was said, an enclosed stadium allows it to be used more year round.

[@carlfromtheoc1788]

First question - How does Chicago plan to pay for all of this considering it seems that their tax revenue base is shrinking? Second question - Why do so many places (cities and states) insist on paying for new stadium complexes that never seem to really pay for themselves? Also, I would point out that a domed stadiums means that the interior will last a whole lot longer than one exposed to the elements.

[@joeylawn36111]

And domed stadiums can be used year round for other events versus only 8+ times a year. And I agree with you on the tax base issue.

[@PeterGazis-iz9fe]

People are moving out of Chicago’s poorer more violent neighborhoods. More higher income college educated people are moving into the downtown area. I don’t think the tax base is shrinking.

[@26sniff]

Bears should build where the white Sox want to go. Make that a stadium district and leverage the parking and mass transit needs for BOTH STADIUMS

[@chazzhammer425]

Majority of Bears fans, and the money are out in the suburbs, especially the West/Northwest suburbs. No one wants to go into the dumpy city of Chicago anymore. I'm old enough to remember whan Chicago was awesome and fun. It ain't no more. Its a dying city, no longer what it used to be. A Bears fan will be willing to spend thousand of dollars at a game in AH and just a few hundred at a game in the city. Thats the truth.

[@henryblackman1480]

⁠​⁠@@chazzhammer425Chicago is booming idek what youre talking about lmao no bears fan wants to sit in 6 hour traffic either.

[@chazzhammer425]

@@henryblackman1480 Majority of fans/season ticket holders/people with money live in the Northwest/Western/North suburbs. They would LOVE to travel to AH instead of driving all the way down to the city to an average stadium with no entertainment district. The traffif Soldier Field and the walk to the stadium is a pain in the ass. Chicago is dead bruv. Michigan Ave? Gone. Soldier Field area stadium will have no Bars/Hotels/Restuarants/Shops.

[@PeterGazis-iz9fe]

Around the proposed Sox park there will be a River walk, bike path and Water taxi stop. Linking Chinatown to the Loop. With lots of Condos, Restaurants, Bars and Shops to pay for it all. Maybe a hotel and betting parlor giving its close proximity to Chicago’s Union Station.

[@PeterGazis-iz9fe]

The skyboxes are bought up by major corporations. They’re all based downtown.

[@marblox9300]

New Soldier Field is basically a completely new stadium that just happened to be built INSIDE old Soldier Field. YOU F___ IT UP so you play there for 50 years.

[@RB01.10]

I’ve heard it’s a dump and outdated etc though

[@marblox9300]

@@RB01.10 As a taxpayer - not my problem.

[@wastesometimewithaverage-hc2fb]

Nashville will build a new stadium and have a Super Bowl before the Bears break ground.

[@Matthew6248]

Predicting Soldier Field is 150 years old before it finally hosts its last game which could mean one last renovation and the grand and/or Great Grandchildren of members of the 1985 bears represent that team at the stadium's last game

[@drewferd2720]

Need to have a clause that says if a billionaire owner wants to build a new stadium then they have to come up with the money. Making tax payers pay for your profits is why billionaires stay billionaires and everyone else stays broke. Only billionaires can get away with making others pay for their success. It’s actually insane

[@davidconwell9610]

You stated the downtown stadium would be more accessible for people flying in. Actually AH is right next to the airport.

[@byronparker4088]

True

[@chrism1598]

It's much harder if you're flying in to Midway

[@BHox01]

8:52 arlington heights is way closer to o'hare than downtown is. Midway is closer to downtown but is also much smaller airport

[@PeterGazis-iz9fe]

Chicago traffic is not that bad on weekends. From Ohare it should take about 15 minutes to get to Arlington. Less than 40 minutes to get to Soldier field. From Midway it’s 45 minutes to Arlington. 20 minutes to Soldier Field.

[@danwentz]

Win first, build later

[@beaniemac]

FYI Arlington heights is very close to O'Hare airport, which makes travel significantly easier. Downtown Chicago is not close to any airport.

[@PeterGazis-iz9fe]

The Packers are Communists

[@michaelreich2312]

FYI - the Arlington park site is 16 miles from Ohare, 18 minutes by car, 1 hour with public transit. On the other hand, Soldier Field is 21 miles from Ohare, 24 minutes with no traffic (which is rare), and 1 hour with public transit. Granted Midway is close to soldier field. Also the public transit from Ohare to Arlington Heights would be wonky suburban public transit, but I would not say Soldier Field is a better location for people flying into Chicago.

[@common12]

This stadium will never be built in Chicago.

[@moonytheloony6516]

Agreed

[@dogcowrph]

The Bears should sign over 51% of the team to the taxpayers. They want to be partners right?

[@marblox9300]

Same with all sports teams in America. Green Bay makes taxpayer ownership work.

[@johngalt6929]

The deal becomes more and more unreasonable as more details become available.

[@lyfeofbill2764]

They have to put a park there because that land is federally protected by the U.S park service.

[@metsandjetsfan5174]

If the Bears don't get it fixed then I can see them moving to St Louis and rename it to the Barons and the new Chicago owners will keep the name Bears and build the stadium in Arlington Heights and pay for it themselves

[@scotttild]

I don’t see a stalwarts like the Bears moving. I don’t think the NFL would approve it unless the stadium killing people with falling concrete. Chicago is too big a TV market for the NFL not to have a team in. St. Louis is a smaller market and the team value would decline, so I doubt they would ever consider it.

[@chrism1598]

Bears aren't moving lol

[@RB01.10]

@@scotttildIsn’t that why the Rams left St. Louis? For money reasons ? And wasn’t there a breech of contract when the moved hence why there was a settlement a little while back?

[@moonytheloony6516]

@@RB01.10 You are comparing St. Louis to Chicago? Are you serious? Apples & Oranges and each one of those apples is the size of the Death Star. Chicago is the third largest sports TV market in the United States which dwarfs St. Louis. The NFL will not ever approve the Bears to leave Illinois in favor of a much smaller market, leaving Chicago with nothing, even temporarily is out of the question. The Rams left St. Louis for the second largest market in the USA. They traded up, by a LOT. Ya don't trade down. Remember, that's what the Rams originally did and they weren't happy despite winning a Super Bowl in St. Louis, and what did they do? They moved on back to the City of Angels because they're a big market team. Exactly.

[@RB01.10]

@@moonytheloony6516 I see, though maybe I’m missing something; why did the Rams even leave LA in the first place when they went to St. Louis ?

[@markprad]

Let them stay in the stadium they wanted. Lease is up in 2035

[@26sniff]

You do understand it takes time to do this

[@Mr.93.20]

Another negative in the deal is the Bears refinancing the previous renovations debt into the new deal. The public would be basically paying for the previous reno twice.

[@kennethgolden5539]

Would be interesting to see where are the Bears in stadium game day fans come from. What % of the fans coming outside the tax base of those who are paying for the stadium. I would say the vast majority of Chicago citizens have never gone to games. The suburbs and people from other counties are the fan base. But they will not assume the cost.

[@scotttild]

Which is why you can possibly fund this with a .20c hotel tax. Let the visitors pay for it not the locals. Raiders did it that way, problem was the tax was not big enough to cover the increase in the Bonds that were issued.

[@joekirner8832]

Just go with Arlington heights Lakefront deal will never go thru

[@trickolas78]

Bears and White Sox need to partner to build the first major multipurpose stadium in 35 years. Teams need to lower costs by bringing back these marvels of engineering

[@MegaSlowe]

😂

[@sirchi8731]

@@MegaSlowe Pay up the tax subsidies or lose your team

[@user-db4ke3if6t]

Lol the vickingins actually have that granted only college use... but stadiums are not the problem the actual product on the feild is nothing that bad about spoiler feild

[@chrism1598]

No.... just no. Terrible idea

[@sirchi8731]

@@chrism1598 don't lose both the Bears and White Sox. Pay up or else

[@JoePCool14]

5:35 That might be one of the funniest things you've ever said, love the honesty haha

[@graysondossett1558]

I live in Arlington Heights and the area the stadium would be perfect for a suburban stadium. It makes so much sense for them to go there

[@andrebailey6676]

They're not going to Arlington heights

[@byronparker4088]

They should go there

[@cmausmc]

I think Arlington Heights is more accessible for people flying in than Soldier Field...

[@ruiz1871]

No, theres no train straight from ohares terminal building to Arlington Heights. You have to walk out the terminal and take a bus to a commuter rail line and it takes an hour to reach Arlington Heights. Youd have to take a 40-50 dollar uber to the stadium site . Otoh you can take the blue line straight to downtown in 30 minutes for 5 dollars and walk to soldier field.

[@chazzhammer425]

@@ruiz1871 Who rides the train anyways? Someone flying into Chicago to see a game is going to take an Uber/Bears Shuttle 15-20 minutes to Arlington Heights and get dropped off at the door of a new kick ass hotel in the Chicago Bears Entertainment district and starting partying it up at one of the new clean safe restaurants/bars walking distance to the hotel and Stadium. It would be a whole weekend affair that people would love as its all centrally located to the new stadium. Lakefront stadium cannot offer that.

[@isthe3rd167]

@@chazzhammer425 I don't think residents who are Fans want to spend $40-50 on Uber rides knowing that public trans is affordable.

[@ruiz1871]

@@chazzhammer425 lots of people ride the train hereZ theres 750,000 riders in Chicago on weekday on the El. On metra its 281,000 daily riders on a weekday. So over 1 million people ride the train on a weekday. You know why? Because trains dont have to sit on traffic. It takes an hour to drive into Chicago from ohare during the workday sometimes more, the train takes 30 minutes, rain or shine, rush hour or 2am. The traffic getting in and out before games in traffic from Arlington Heights is gonna be awful. The metra train will definitely be the quickest and cheapest way in and out of that complex if it ever gets built. I live in the city and the metra towards Arlington is a 5 minute walk from my house. So Im set either way.

[@sirchi8731]

@@ruiz1871 ppl do ride the train also at the same time public funding is going to be needed for any projects

[@jaxsonhugh9334]

I am so sick of these teams expecting public money for them to make more money…If the team can’t afford to build a stadium sell it to an owner that can….

[@markanthony1004]

As a Packers fan even I can see that Bears fans and the city of Chicago is getting screwed here. It's ridiculous honestly

[@HoshizakiYoshimasa]

And of course the NFL allows it. Such a shady, greedy league . I don't get why Americans even support them. It's rugby with pads anyway.

[@mysteryhombre81]

I think the bears should just stay in solider field for the nexr decade, and the cheap ass owners save up some money to pay for the stadium themselves. No more taxpayer funding to these stadiums. If as owner you dont want to fund? Then the NFL should be able to force you to sell to someone who will!

[@beartackle]

I thought this wouldn't upset Friends of the Park that much since the stadium is placed in a parking lot and more parkland will be placed there the stadium originally was.

[@ruiz1871]

It upsets them, because the bears would get all the revenue, effectively and defacto owning all the benefits of the stadium. It actually upsets most Chicago residents, if you talk to them. The team has been trash for most of the last 40 years. The sheer audacity.

[@reverend_wintondupree]

​@@ruiz1871And in a terrible market no less where the state teases with bankruptcy

[@ruiz1871]

@@reverend_wintondupree jb pritzker has actually done a lot to improve the states finances (moody’s has increased ILs crediting rating multiple times), which is why he’s telling the McCaskey to politely buzz off. He’s been great running the state fiscally.

[@reverend_wintondupree]

@@ruiz1871 Illinois' bond ratings only improved because the state received almost $200 Billion in federal covid relief funding. Yet all that has done is kick the can down the road. The real problems haven't been solved. They still hold the worst rated bonds in the nation (BBB−). Have the 2nd highest property taxes in the nation with some of the worst services and the worst home appreciation out of all states. The most local governments (collecting taxes) in the nation. And the state still has the country’s worst pension crisis. That and it is one of the country’s few states with a shrinking population. Pritzker can't offer anything to the Bears or White Sox because ther's nothing left to offer.

[@ruiz1871]

@@reverend_wintondupree so we agree, its financially irresponsible to offer any large subsidy for new stadium for all the reasons you enumerated, especially if the revenue will all go towards the bears and not shares with the state. Anyway, Pritzker has IL at an A rating at moodys and other bond ratingsZ

[@chazzhammer425]

People what makes the Arlington Heights location the most logical choice is that the Bears WILL OWN the stadium and the surrounding businesses on the property. Hotels/Bars/Restuarants/Condos/Stores will be owned by the Bears and they will pay the tax revenue to the city of AH and the County/State. The state would be willing to chip in some money for that because they can see that the entire Bears village will generate enough money to pay back the tax payers and employ 10x the amount of employees then a lakefront stadium would. The lakefront stadium and its new park district ball fields will not generate the amount of revenue to pay off the loans and provide the tax revenue to the state/city/count government. Also the Bears could entice investors to spend more money in Arlington Heights to build the stadium/village because they see the revenue potential. It has nothing to do with access to the area or anything like that. It helps but its about revenue generation.

[@PeterGazis-iz9fe]

The Arlington Heights site is a few miles away from one of the world’s largest shopping malls (Woodfield). You already have lots of bars, restaurants, retail, hotels in the area. In a Bears entertainment district businesses would struggle to stay open.

[@chazzhammer425]

@@PeterGazis-iz9fe Schaumburg/Woodfield Mall is not even close to Arlington Park. Its like 5-6 miles away and if you know the area, no one likes dealing with Schaumburg/Woodfield Mall traffic especially during the holiday Christmas season. Who wants to go to a Bears game and have to travel 6 miles to go to a bar/resteraunt/hotel in Schaumburg when it could be steps away from the stadium and the train. You can spend the weekend in a AH Bears entertainment villiage next to the stadium. EVerything within walking distance and SAFE/CLEAN.

[@PeterGazis-iz9fe]

2 miles as the crow flies. For locals it’s a short drive to either place. On the 355 days a year that the Bears aren’t playing Bars and Restaurants will struggle to get customers.

[@chazzhammer425]

@@PeterGazis-iz9fe Maybe but thats why they build/sell condo's or have apartments on the property. They'll live there year round beside the Bears stadium will be the premier event center in the Chicagoland area. Tons of people will be there more then just for the Bears games. The population in that area is dense and its a higher end suburban area. Taylor Swift will be performing there over any other place in the Chicago area. 😀

[@PeterGazis-iz9fe]

The Bears are looking to make money on the property. Which mean’s commercial development. Apartments & Condos don’t cut it. Also I don’t want to live near Pontiac Silverdome2.0 or the world’s largest Bass Pro Shop.

[@ralevo]

My house is 30 years old and needs an update. I want the public to build me a new house.

[@moonytheloony6516]

Please provide a P.O. Box so I can have my accountant mail you a check to cover three gallons of Glidden paint (brushes, rollers, tarps, tape and the paint cans themselves are not included...just the paint) I'm happy to help and... You're Welcome

[@chazzhammer425]

The only reason the Bears are even entertaining the city is because Kevin Warren is hell bent on keeping the Bears in the city REGARDLESS of what the ultimate Bear Fan experience would be. KW would rather have an average stadium with sub par Bears Fan experience over a truly world class stadium and entertainment village. Thats a fact!!! I think and hope the Bears are just humoring KW and the city of Chicago to try and get a better deal in Arlington Heights. KW admitted that the majority of the Bears Season Ticket Holders are in the Northwest suburbs and that he's trying to draw their money into the city. KW is trying to make this a community charity team and not a Chicago Bears Fan focused project.

[@user-db4ke3if6t]

Were is a better football market currently that you could rebrand a històric franchise and gain any traction???? Lol the bears owners have little to no leverage for leaving chitcago...

[@chazzhammer425]

@@user-db4ke3if6t The Bears have all the leverage. They don't need the city at all. Arlington Heights is property they own already. The Chicago Bears name will follow them wherever they go in the area including the suburbs. They just have to deal with the local politicians and that would be easier to deal with in Arlington Heights then in the City.

[@user-db4ke3if6t]

@@chazzhammer425 their is a huge flaw in your logic... Your talking about about the suburbs... The people in your middle class subs are not going to want to football the bill... the state is loosing people to northwest Indiana because of taxes... we're is the public funds coming from in this economy

[@chazzhammer425]

@@user-db4ke3if6t I have no flaws. Lol If the Bears built out in the suburbs on the land that THEY OWN, they won't need much tax payer money, because they'll be able to raise private funds or take a loan out that can be paid back by the massive revenue increase they'll see from building hotels/restaurants/bars/merchandise/ selling condos or renting apartments. The suburbs average household income is on average 3x what the city household incomes are. The Bears would have virtually all of the control of the property and just pay the property and other taxes of a private business. The lakefront is limited in how much if the grass/open space can be built on. (Friends of the Park). Thats why the city rendering has baseball/football fields cuz its all park district.

[@ahl6845]

do you live in Chicago? I'm just a few minutes walk from the Stadium, This is needed. Where do you get your info from?

[@brianleibforth2337]

Arlington is closer to the airport. So your statements is incorrect

[@masonmixon8031]

4 people were shot in chicago while playing this video

[@moonytheloony6516]

This is the best comment here.

[@CTP1111]

that thing would be a hideous eyesore to the skyline

[@WaltANelsonPHD]

New construction on the lakefront will take the best part of ten years. Hey, its Chicago.

[@user-by7ti1fc7f]

Arlington Heights always was the plan. Chicago is simply decaying, why not leave now while you're ahead. This Chicago thing was a ploy to get out of the end of the lease.

[@PeterGazis-iz9fe]

Arlington Heights was never going to happen. The proposed renderings look like something an architectural student threw together in an afternoon.

[@reinders82]

Arlington Heights was the threat. It was never the plan.

[@moonytheloony6516]

@@PeterGazis-iz9fe It was referred to as a rough rendering which is why it lacked the detail but you seem to think you're privy to some inside information as if you personally know exactly what the Bears are thinking. Hmm....are you the McCaskey's accountant? Let me know in the comment section down below....

[@moonytheloony6516]

@@reinders82 And we have another mind reader who seems to think he or she (please share your preferred pronoun, as I don't wish to assume) knows exactly what the Chicago Bears are up to. Are you a McCaskey? Are you a board member? Are you the Bears financial advisor? or are you a graduate of Dunning-Kruger University? Don't hold back, the football fans of all of Chicago and the outlying suburbs want to know who you are and how you acquired this incredibly in-depth and inside information. Also, a question is in order. When will the McCaskeys be breaking ground on this new palatial lakefront stadium and ::::Bonus Question:::: for a shiny new dime how will the taxpayers respond to covering a somewhat sizable chunk of the cost? I'm asking the latter because you clearly have been speaking with hundreds of taxpayers who trust you with their opinion on the matter.

[@richvolkjrful]

This KZbin post says absolutely nothing different than what we already know

[@moonytheloony6516]

Depressed Ginger isn't all that enlightening with his videos. He's not always accurate either. But he's managed to find a small audience that attracts people who can't critically think and the ones that do, like yourself, ask the better questions or make the accurate observations. He chases things that will create comments and enough views to get a small profit. He's occasionally interesting but almost a total zero on insight.

[@moneyshot6]

It looked like a great idea when they said it was only gonna cost a little over 3 billion and the Bears were going to pay almost all of that. But then when it came out that you were looking at close to seven or 8 billion and the taxpayers were going to have to put the bill for that, I say move them to Arlington I could care less if the stadium is on the lakefront

[@DaveBailey18]

Are you there Gilligan?

[@spg5658]

What's wrong with the current stadium??

[@jeffccan4464]

And all of that other stuff besides the stadium will never be built, just like every other stadium/arena proposal.

[@WDI2008]

Resident's of Chicago's lake front would have had to put up with construction for seven years had Chicago won the bid for the 2016 Summer Olympic and Paralympic Games.

[@thomasrobinson182]

Ideally it a domed stadium in the suburbs. No public financing.

[@davidfranklin3574]

If I become a buy in for the stadium, I want a lifetime season holder and a small percentage of the annual interest.

[@dannythunder3180]

If Arlington Heights wants them, go there

[@paladin677]

3-4 billion public funding? Those are some expensive youth ballparks!

[@mrstonejack23]

The NFL Upper Management wants this stadium to be built in Arlington Heights. The White Sox will join them at some point, should any State Money be given to both teams. Plus, at some point, the Bulls and Blackhawks will more than likely play off the lakefront and tear down the United Center and make that area a complete Medical Center..

[@HoshizakiYoshimasa]

There's no way NFLs ego allows MLB to share a stadium with them. That era is over.

[@terrellb927]

I understand why the bears want to keep the revenue from off season events, it would be to pay the debit that’s still owed from the 2002 renovation, and the fee added to building this. And the Sox stadium. The State hasn’t been paying the bill at all. So of course I want to control the fees, you aren’t paying. That’s how the Vikings stadium was paired off so fast.

[@joeylawn36111]

6:04 Kind of nitpicking I know, but you say “translucent” when the rendering shown shows a Transparent roof. I would like to know which one it’s really going to be.

[@26sniff]

This guy has no idea what the difference is

[@Samtheman85844]

It's very ugly. Thank you for the update.

[@_face773]

People flying into Chicago already have to go along ways to get the soldier field at least if it's in Arlington and people fly in from Ohare airport, that's not a long way to go for travel. Midway airport is a drive either way.

[@tmac29nyc]

Watch that stadium Get built Along the Lakefront

[@moonytheloony6516]

Watch that Star Wars museum Get built Along the Lakefront - George Lucas We have a reaction to the above comments from Friends of the Park 😀😃😄😁😆🥹😅😂🤣🥲☺️😊

[@Jaywilbs]

@depressedginger they’re building the parks because the lakefront is purely zoned for public projects, it’s not just for looks And goodwill. That’s why the bears lease from the city, because it’s parkland. That’s also why they explored Arlington Heights, they would own the stadium and be more lucrative. Regardless, the bears shouldn’t ask for any money to build the stadium or the demo of Soldier Field. Quite frankly, it’s a horrible pain to get to soldier field for games, so I think Arlington Heights is a slam dunk…especially knowing that it would be WAY closer to their HQ. Just my two cents.

[@LavaChip]

Very against tax payer money being used to make billionaires richer. New stadium on museum park is smoke and mirrors for Arlington heights leverage.

[@jeremyhedden6533]

Where is parking lot at the lakefront rendering? There isn't one. Screw the park district. They are also creedy bastards. Arlington makes more sense. Also building a doom. You won't see the lake.

[@lightningmusky5286]

When the Bears pay off the 500 million dollars still owed on the last stadium then they should look at a new stadium. Honestly it’s a waste of money to build a new stadium old one was just renovated. I also hate going to the city.

[@jeanmillburg3343]

If they end up in Arlington Heights they need to use this architecture firm that made up the plans for the stadium in City of Chicago there is much more creative and unique plans for the stadium and love the C design on the roof and the design looks heck of a lot better than the original plans for Arlington Heights. I agree with someone's comment it looks like the original Arlington Heights plans look like a architect student drawn those plans up in an afternoon/ no creativity to their designs. No way for them to keep all the revenue will never happen. The Bears need to come up with their own funding and build a stadium in Arlington Heights with a new architecture firm that know how to design stadiums that look attractive, functional as well and being cost affective. The bears can get all the revenue to pay back their loans having a place they can rent out off season when there is not playing football and get all the revenue from concession, stadium souvenir shop and what not if they own their own stadium.

[@billbeliakoff5589]

I know that this is a nothing more than a dream, but it would be a nice gesture by the NFL to step in and say "The Bears are one of the original teams and part of the reason that the league makes billions of dollars every year. So as a show of gratitude the league will pay, in full, for a new stadium for them." I'm sure the cost would be nothing to the league.

[@bigpaulie7887]

This is exactly why I love this channel.... @5:35 ".....if they stuck with what they currently had ha ha . THAT WOULD HURT MY CHANNEL SIGNIFICANTLY" Bro you had me almost spit my coffee out laughing or shocked lol!! Nobody else is gonna say something like that!! Funny funny!!

[@jppagetoo]

Isn't the whole area south of Soldier Field a wildlife/bird sanctuary? Seems a bit over the top to use public funds to build in that spot even if you are adding public park space where Soldier Field is now.

[@darthdrew85]

If Chicago wants Superbowls and WrestleManias and final fours ... Yes they should. If they pay for the stadium i can understand not paying for the rest of the project

[@charlessanders561]

Well the longer it takes the more expensive it gets. 59 50 split with the city.

[@tangobear5359]

No new house, it’s time to find a new home elsewhere!!! I will always love my 🐻

[@Theburningdan]

Football should be played outdoors. What’s next we gonna put a roof on Lambeau 😂

[@91_C4_FL]

They’ll put on a roof and still keep the bleachers 😂

[@scotttild]

Don’t give them any ideas.

[@RB01.10]

No, as was said no one wants to deal with weather inconveniences etc. And an enclosed stadium as was said allows events to be hosted year round without any weather interruptions .

[@thesean3194]

Bears mgnt showing just how incapable of getting this done.

[@robertfabry7550]

And they want to keep all the revenue 😆😆😆 the taxpayers need to tell them to kick rocks

[@trevorgibson5728]

If it’s publicly funded then the city should be the owners of the Stadium. The city should rent the stadium to the Bears and have the freedom to rent it to other events.

[@GloriaGrothe]

The United Football League should bring back the Chicago Enforcers to New Bears Stadium when Guaranteed Rate Field gets demolished into pieces

[@PeterGazis-iz9fe]

Guaranteed Rate Field is located right across the highway from Illinois Institute of Technology. I’m guessing new development on the site will be centered on the Tech center they originally were going to build at the 78th.

[@PeterGazis-iz9fe]

Guaranteed Rate Field is located right across the highway from Illinois Institute of Technology. I’m guessing new development on the site will be centered on the Tech center they originally were going to build at the 78th.

[@PeterGazis-iz9fe]

Guaranteed Rate Field is located right across the highway from Illinois Institute of Technology. I’m guessing new development on the site will be centered on the Tech center they originally were going to build at the 78th.

[@PeterGazis-iz9fe]

Guaranteed Rate Field is located right across the highway from Illinois Institute of Technology. I’m guessing new development on the site will be centered on the Tech center they originally were going to build at the 78th.

[@PeterGazis-iz9fe]

Guaranteed Rate Field is located right across the highway from Illinois Institute of Technology. I’m guessing new development on the site will be centered on the Tech center they originally were going to build at the 78th.

[@zacharyobuch6352]

It’s only a matter of time… “are the Chicago bears moving to San Antonio TX?!?!?” 🙄🙄 we’ve been getting this for 30+ years

[@ericradford2142]

Move the team to St. Louis or Salt Lake City.

[@MiggerPlease]

SLC

[@MiggerPlease]

I'm gay too buddy lol

[@kavalere]

Yeah....the White Sox should leave too. The city is in decline anyway.

[@MrTSoukup76]

That is the dumbest comment in you tube history. Congratulations

[@agentflynn18]

NO SALT LAKE CITY

[@andrewlopez7835]

No way is downtown more accessible from O’Hare than Arlington

[@DarrylBrevard]

Why not build an open air stadium? It is cheaper and it give the Bears the Home Field advantage vs warm weather teams at the end of the season. Playoffs also

[@AS-qn9yg]

They could easily have enough money if they sold revenue share in the project, but aww then they’d make less money :( we can’t have that.

[@davidnevolo4402]

Someone needs to have friends of the parks visit singapore and see what a well designed global city looks like. They are protecting asphalt and empty lawns at the expense of incredible facilities and architecture

[@franciscocolin2008]

Go to Arlington Heights! Look at Inglewood, it’s doing well. Soon the Jets will move to the outskirts of Queens

[@tyreek.6815]

Why does every modern stadium keeps trying to copy AT&T. Like cmon get creative. Just bc AT&T was the first mega modern stadium in the world doesn’t mean we have to use it as a base. We don’t need no more big open windows in the endzones. It’s not unique anymore. As well as it having the possibility of putting your own team at a disadvantage because of the Sunrays/shades.

[@marblox9300]

Since public money always seems to be needed to fund these things then the public should OWN the team and get all the revenue. Green Bay makes it work so can we.

[@chrism1598]

The public doesn't get any revenue up in Green Bay

[@marblox9300]

@@chrism1598 The people that own GBP Stock are considered the public in that it is not one or a few that own the team.

[@chrism1598]

@@marblox9300 Is common stock tradable? Do they get paid? Since the answer to both is no, then my comment that they don't receive any revenue is 100% accurate.

[@marblox9300]

@@chrism1598 So if they own stock and don't get paid anything how do they get compensated.???

[@chrism1598]

@@marblox9300 When you own common stock although you can get compensated, you're also at the very bottom of the pecking order in getting paid out. So what that means is the company is allowed to use its revenue to meet all financial obligations first before paying out common shareholders. And since Green Bay has never budgeted for, nor will they ever budget for, paying out their shareholders, then they'll never get compensated. And they can easily justify it with the costs associated with the NFL. Even in bankruptcy, common shareholders rarely see a dime. The reality is for the Packers, they'll periodically sell more stock (under certain provisions) to generate additional revenue for team related projects. And for the fans yes they do own a very small stake in the team, but it's more for show than anything.

[@Roadghost1969]

Move em out of state, and blame it on Friends of the Parks and have people go and pound that (Friends of the parks group) and reset their hard drives. I hate Star Wars ,but that Friends of the Park saying it was not their fault that Chicago lost that Star Wars museum.

[@tinnelledwards6895]

Yup say the bears need Arlington Heights!!!

[@chibs1301]

They aren’t building on the lakefront. This is all leveraging for a better tax levy in Arlington heights

[@turks1966]

Bear's money/tax dollars to have them make greater profits and screw up the lakefront and it's view, no, go to Arlington Heights.

[@andrebailey6676]

Anybody thinks they're going to Arlington heights they're not that was a whole Ted Phillips thing not a Kevin Warren

[@stevegungel787]

Nothing more than a pipe dream.

[@benjaminrichey278]

I love the bears but I’ll be dammed if I wanna put them as an item in my state income tax!

[@jeffreyreyes6800]

The greed of sports owners will never stop completely pathetic

[@scotttild]

Cities just don’t get the revenue back to cover the bonds to make it worth it. Maybe they are figuring it out. The way to do is like Vikings made it work. They paid 1/2 the City issued bonds but the team was responsible for paying those bonds back and until they did the City got a cut of the revenue. THe Vikings paid off the Bonds 20 years early and now own the building outright. The city has no further obligations and the tax payers were not hit. A hotel tax is not unreadable because you make visitors pay for it ie the Raiders. Still tax payers should not have to pay for these things.

[@MisterBlaine102]

Build it in Kiev. Lots of funds available there. Of course, a Russian 'Bear' would probably immediately drop a FAB on it. "Doink."