Beat the Icon: Ontario RAT Model 1 vs Alternatives

[@grattof]

You guys made my day. I love the RAT 1. Was my EDC for almost two years a while ago and now it's my car knife. I actually requested this video a while ago on the comments, but I don't know if you saw it. Anyways, thank you for the video!

[@brentfisher4747]

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[@brentfisher4747]

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[@JaronPope]

Wait.....they make car knives?

[@CrimeVid]

How much is an Ontario rat compared with it’s competition ?

[@christianzale505]

@@CrimeVidnot much money. If you get the regular ones with AUS8 steel then they’re about $35-40 and the D2 steel version are about $10 more. Pretty good deal I’ve had my AUS8 rat 1 for almost 10 years now and it’s still got smooth action just like the day I got it and no rust on the steel. That’s including using it as edc and to skin deer/quarter out deer meat a few times. I can easily get it to sharper than factory edge with just simple whetstone and leather strop.

[@pinkyellowblue007]

I still would choose the RAT out of all those

[@peteglanton9259]

Nobody ever mentions how many bolts the RAT1 has. 5 bolts, makes it very strong.

[@Ajaxykins]

This is actually a very important and over looked point. Many of the "hard use" knives I see nowadays only have two bolts holding it together while everything else is slotted to stay in place. Those two bolts have alot more stress on them and if they fail so does everything else. I don't value JoeX's reviews very much but his testing does show glaring weaknesses under extreme circumstances. One such was on the elementum button lock. The lock its self was strong enough but what failed was the lack of support around the pivot, the liners bent around the single bolt that was the pivot and the backstop no longer functioned leading to an early failure.

[@jonathancupp3686]

@@Ajaxykins imo, liner locks are not adequate. They are one of the weakest locks and they wear more easily than many other locks.

[@Ajaxykins]

@@jonathancupp3686 I agree in a sense that they're not as good but if you saw his test of the elementum and the cold steel ti-lite, the ti-lite does better even due to solid construction

[@just9911]

@@Ajaxykins they are meant for two totally different purpose. You don’t need every knife to be bomb proof. Hell, my Case Sodbuster would be more than adequate for the needs of MOST people using a folding knife.

[@mcsquirgle]

I love my Buck Bantam. I have used it for years to the point of having to sharpen it a few times. I think anyone who likes to buy USA made gear should consider it for a cheap folding knife to throw in a bugout bag, or in a glove compartment in your car or truck, but I think Buck would be smart to redesign it just a little and add a reversible tip up pocket clip. 4 way pocket clip would be even better. If they could do that, it would be the best modern American pocket knife under $50

[@jimbusmaximus4624]

The Buck Bantam is an incredible knife for the money!

[@acid6urns]

it’s an ok knife but the steel is kinda bad for the price and it’s not a very strong knife. plus the entire thing is pinned you can’t take it apart to clean.

[@PhoenixGuitars]

How can you beat the ka bar beartooth at 19.99? I love the rat but that’s the one for price, quality, look, and materials. And price.

[@brunorojas3992]

Rat looks ugly yet my coworker hss one and its growing on me. Washers are a plus.

[@mcsquirgle]

440c has gotten a bad rap. It is rated among the best ingot stainless steels out there, yet people seem to disregard it. Somehow 154cm is widely respected though even though 440c should get you identical toughness and edge retention and even better corrosion resistance than 154cm

[@d_sharon_design]

I agree. I think being so widely available, led to a higher likelihood of running into bad heat treats and turning people off. Kind of already seeing that with M390. Plus most people assume exclusivity = better quality.

[@RM-xd5gp]

I have always wanted to see a Ka-Bar Dozier XL... that could be a great Rat 1 alternative.

[@FightingTemplar]

I also wish they would put some washers in there to make it easier to open

[@stuartb9194]

​@@FightingTemplarand in AUS 10A

[@thehim2990]

There actually was a large version discontinued over 10 years ago. I was too late into the knife game to get one, but it looked like the actual best knife design for a folder

[@tomfaranda]

Ridiculous that the kabar dozier in either aus8 or d2 was not included. Superb value.

[@firestarter8202]

Where is the K-Bar Dozier??

[@wiliamwidlacki7459]

The rat 1 is damn near perfect for what it is, i own the avispa, the bantam, the tenacious, the honey badger, and the rat 1 totally dominates them.....i would have loved if the rat had a premium steel option, and maybe handle options that were more like the becker.....overall the rat is hard to beat.

[@jclaxton78]

can you explain why the rat is better in your opinion?

[@wiliamwidlacki7459]

@jclaxton78 the buck doesn't have good action and the handles feel cheap, the honey badger has great action but cheap handles, the avispa has bad ergos, the tenacious feels more light duty, the rat1 has d2 steel,good ergos, great action and overall is the best value in my opinion.

[@vrolsh]

They have a s35vn now with micarta red or green scales.

[@chriswarras6328]

S35VN is the one I own

[@theotherjoedimaggio]

RAT is GOAT. Glad to see this series!

[@jouzel8951]

It has been my EDC for 8 years or so, I am a knife nut, it has been great!! I have the Au8, takes a good edge, easy to sharpen....

[@Mikelp73]

Hate to say it but mora.

[@MrCacarocha]

Hard to beat it…then KnifeCenter goes out and makes a Rat 1 - D2 micarta made in China and the result….SUCKS!!!!

[@Sammyandbobsdad]

So what you’re saying is we should get all of them, right? Right? That’s what you are saying? All of ‘em. That’s my read.

[@knifecenter]

Well, at least they aren't too expensive :D -DCA

[@Jeremy-Two]

Hi David, What is the best pocket knife, with handle thickness comfort to lightweight ratio? The Rat I one and the Kabar Becker Folder does a pretty good job. At least a 3 to 6.5 inch blade length, please.

[@PLBW81]

Hey David can you recommend any alternatives for the RMJ Stabby Guy around 150€. A nice tool if I don´t want abuse my knives? RMJ is almost never in stock...

[@EDCandLace]

Byrd knives are the most slept on knives ever.... they are Lazer beam slicers.. I hate hearing people say "but it's only 8cr" the don't understand that "geometry cuts" and the cara cara 2 and harrier 2 have Lazer beam cutting geometry.

[@knifecenter]

Agreed, the byrds are almost criminally underrated these days. -DCA

[@nikkiriggs1607]

I own a double bladed Byrd knife I absolutely love & seems to be a rarity. 1 plain edge , 1 serrated. Its a work horse.

[@polydactylproductions6787]

I did a review of the Rat 2. It could cut you with the tip of the blade when closed. Ontario's customer service offered to grind the tip off and send it back. The Avispa is also junk. Badly designed.

[@Gringorican]

4:23 that is absolutely NOT the action my Rat Model 1 came with... I ordered two and they were both stiff as hell.

[@rtz549]

Same here.

[@virtualxi6591]

were they d2 or aus8 models? my d2 rats came with really good actions but the aus8 wasn’t that good.

[@rtz549]

@@virtualxi6591 Aus8.

[@korgan7779]

Buck 110 / 112 Slim Select.. I like the blade on the ESEE but the Handle of the RAT 1. I was looking at the different parts of the two and considered switching the blades out for one another.

[@disposablehero4911]

I have currently edc'd a rat(1or2) for a good 5 years. I think it's a great starter edc knife as well a good one to learn to work on and sharpen(Aus8) knives too.

[@JAYoung08231981]

Only R2 beats R1 and obviously not evey aspect. R2=🦄

[@Jeremy-Two]

Hi David, You mentioned Rat 1 is King! What are the Kings in other folding pocket knife categories? For example, the King of Carry may be the Spyderco Paramilitary 3 lightweight. I believe that is your carry. Tactical, Lightweight, Outdoor, etc.

[@elliotdavis317]

BK40 in 14c28n? Sounds like a perfect KC exclusive! Add micarta scales and I'll buy it for twice the price!

[@dennishayslip4605]

I have the RAT 1, the Tenacious and the Honey Badger large amongst many, many others. I'd like to get the Cutjack and the Tellus some day and this video has me considering the double-safe Hunter. I carry the Honey Badger much more often than any of the others. I find it very fidgety and the blade is easy to deploy using any method.

[@scotteger6271]

I bought a cutjack as a Christmas present for my brother-in-law…blade was not centered and action was stiff. Had to send back twice…3rd one was ok but I wouldn’t recommend them. I have several honey badgers…they’re decent for the price.

[@Jeremy-Two]

Hi David, Do companies put the pocket clip tip down "Mainly" for a balance reason and feel in hand? I noticed on the Spyderco Resilience when the pocket was tip up in pocket, it was very butt end heavy, so much so, I put the clip back tip down.

[@wizardofahhhs759]

They do that so they can't be held responsible for the knife opening in your pocket and cutting you.

[@Jeremy-Two]

@@wizardofahhhs759 Thank you, good sir.

[@thefeatheredfrontiersman8135]

Can you beat the speed of the Emerson wave/ cold steel Luzon?

[@MB-jg4tr]

Aftermarket "wave" type pull-pocket openers are available for almost any knife.

[@franzgeil422]

Hey DCA, you bumped up the price to 50 on a couple comparisons. I think you should have included the Gerber Gator. They have one around 50. Then they also have the 58 dollar one with 154CM.

[@terryhodgson2357]

Agreed on the Gator. I expected to see it on the list. Great knife and has been for a long time.

[@MrLleyo81]

Love the Rat line, gave one to all my buddies when they didnt have a knife they cherish it like its a sebenza😆😆😆😆

[@jurrione]

Anything with a smaller finger choil beats a Rat 1. For a full grip, the Rat 1 handle sucks bigtime. Rat 1 is the knife that changed my opinion on first finger choils. Quality is good. Design is bad.

[@unfi6798]

Great reviews & excellent comparison mate. Been using the KaBar & Honey Badger for decades, standard EDC but performs very well in bushland. We feel it's on par with the Rat. Long live Ontario.! Out of sight but never out of mind. Cheers DCA & Thomas from Australia.

[@happyknife8785]

Honey Badger for decades? Didn't they only start this brand 2014-15???

[@PLBW81]

which KaBar?

[@unfi6798]

@@happyknife8785 combination of both.

[@unfi6798]

@@PLBW81 Selkirk

[@barrykarpowich731]

Really a good show,I would buy any of these ,really nice variety Thanks

[@JAB671]

The thing that first drew me to the RAT 1 and the reason I have several (although I don't EDC a Rat 1 currently but will likely gravitate back, eventually) is it's specific blade shape and dimensions. One of my favorite pocketknife blade shapes/designs ever is the Case Sodbuster and blade shape (not the handle) of the RAT 1 really reminds me of it but takes that blade shape and puts it in a knife with a locking blade, pocket clip and thumb studs for about the same price. I am digging the size/shape/look of the SOG but not the blade steel. If they offered it in D2 or even SK5 it would be difficult to resist.

[@chancederosier3378]

I have the Rat 1 and 2 in d2 and a rat 1 in s35vn all great knifes I have a Buck bantam and carried it for 8 plus years before really getting into the knife collecting it’s a hard choice between the rat1 and the Buck bantam. I would go with the Rat1

[@dirtydogvideo]

love my rat 1's i have about 5. i have 1 rat ll. been carrying a rat1 edc for 4 years now. no d2 steel for me. they are all aus8. every time i think about upgrading to a more expensive knife i get a deal on a rat 1 for around $28. i may step up and get the civivi conspirator bc it is a cool looking knife but 3 times the price.

[@richmichaud85]

Now I just bought another Rat 1.......

[@rtz549]

Would like to see more videos per week if you're able. You are selling knives with these videos after all.

[@mattrc77]

Sad Ontario live company is going out of business.

[@jerryshaver2050]

Love this style of show!

[@grepora]

I would recommend a CRKT Homefront, but the prices are just too high for the blade steel. I don't like the large jimping on the handle -- my finger nail sometimes hits it, ouch. Also, the edges of the rear wheel dig into my hand. Another example of a brilliant design poorly executed by CRKT. I don't expect anything done well from CRKT at a reasonable price. That is why the Homefront is the only CRKT knife I own (which I half regret buying), and I have no desire to buy any others from them.

[@haroldneuman5837]

My Dad gave me a Rat 1 and I loved it carried it for 3, or 4 years before I left it behind after a failed camping trip lol. I've had a couple knives since then but nothing has come close. Seeing this I think Im just gonna get a new Rat & call it good.

[@emersonb5764]

Eww. I liked that avispa till I saw the frame lock. If the rat can do a liner lock without costing a lot, anyone can.

[@kermitthepog7063]

DCA, I hope you know how much weight your opinion carries in the knife world. The amicus is all set to be the new "it" knife, based solely on your endorsement! I can't wait to pick one up for myself.

[@rtz549]

Light piano music is about the only background sound that works. Other stuff is distracting.

[@akeeperofoddknowledge4956]

The RAT I is also available with a semi-serrated blade as well as the handle scales come in several colors. I LOVE my plain-edge RAT I. I also LOVE my Spyderco Tenacious for different reasons. Hard to beat either one!

[@yoinkhaha]

Needs more fixed blades.

[@twatmunro]

One of the Petrified Fish knives belong in that lineup as well.

[@markmullen1852]

My Avispa won't even flick out. One of 3 knives i wish i never bought.

[@kraakvmaar1505]

The ontario knife is ok as a first knife for a kid or for the boy scouts or something. But after that there are thousands of better and cooler alternatives. Most of them are more expensive though.

[@rtz549]

I've owned the Rat1 since it was first released and never warmed up to it. Its claim to fame was its price point when it was released.

[@Rob_Houser]

Pay the extra money and go with a crossbar lock. Kershaw Iridium is my choice at $65.

[@dude28405]

You didn’t mention any from the QSP knife brand there’s several of those that come to mind

[@CAMO-hb8wc]

Rat 1 for work, Cold steel code 4 for home, now i will have to pick up a BK40 \m/

[@mikep3043]

Imho they are all better than the rat. Have never liked its design.

[@pinkiewerewolf]

Other than kitchen/butcher knives I'd never owned an Ontario product, until a little over a month ago. Dave at ReallyBigMonkey1 recommended a SP53 or Kukri Machete from Ontario. I bought the SP53 and was impressed as I'd broken a competitor's machete and was looking for a serious tool. Then I found out about Ontario closing their doors so I bought the Kukri Machete (another great tool) and saw the Rat models were getting scarce, so I bought a D2 version of the 1 & 2. They are impressive and not just for the price, they are fine companion tools. Which set me on a path of buying all the lifetime tools I would need to carry me through. Let's keep these companies in business, buy em up like Lay's potato chips.

[@JoeyB7615]

The besttechman ronin is similar but better in all aspects except price..we need more options of durable stainless with a fat handle and finger safe operation ..for hard use I want a handle like the bk40 but a blade like the rat in 14c

[@MountainFisher]

The last one was 440C with a cryo which is always helpful, but how good was the heat treat? The fact that they did a cryo treatment makes me think they didn't cheap out on the heat treat. It will be in the middle of the pack on the CATRA cutting test between 425-455 abrasive paper cards cut. D2 runs between 486 to 499 at HRC60with the 440C running between RC 57 & 60 for comparison. Back when 440C was in its heyday it gained a bad rep from a lot of poor heat treat running the ovens low to save on electricity. That's my biggest complaint about 14C28N, it is heat treated softer than it should be and don't give its .11% nitrogen too much credit, but still at RC62 it cut 405 cards, not bad for a medium low carbon content (0.63%) knife steel, but only Civivi HT it to 60-62, but they've stopped and now run 58-60 on its hardness. Cuts almost 100 cards less at RC58 hard versus 62 which is 20% harder according to the Bessemer Rockwell chart. The Rockwell C scale is slightly exponential, 50 to 51 is 4% where 60 to 61 is 5%, but 60 to 62 is 10.3% harder. Nitro-V is essentially 14C28N with a tad bit more carbon, but it has a _useless_ .08% amount of vanadium just so they can put the V in the name, but I see Nitro-V knives selling for more than 14C28N and it's because they typically heat treat it harder so it holds an edge better and these steels based off AEB-L even at RC62-63 are still pretty tough although it does start dropping fast after RC63. If an expensive Nitro-V knife is just running on the name and doesn't get their heat treat right people won't buy that brand. I won't buy it anyway, because it's often too expensive for what it is, a budget steel. My budget steel is D2 because it still holds an edge well even at RC57 where other budget steels don't. I don't care if it might rust, I live in a desert.🤣

[@timtitus2532]

Gave my Rat 1 to my son AUS 8 version. Good working knife. Always wanted a Honey Badger. Good video David. Thanks

[@mdunawaym]

I love my Rat 1, ad 2. There are some nice knives here, but I wouldn't trade my Rats for any of them.

[@AlaskanFrontier1]

I’m really surprised to not see a Cold Steel on here. A Code 4 or American Lawman would have been really good

[@rtz549]

He showed a lesser known model.

[@AlaskanFrontier1]

@@rtz549 I see that. Definitely not the move

[@knifecenter]

Double Safe Hunter: Actually gives the RAT a run for its money Code 4: too thin in the handle and too expensive American Lawman: too expensive, but I like this as an upgrade option, although when talking RAT-1, you can't get away from the insane value they offer, which is why I didn't go into any premium alternatives in this vid. -DCA

[@rtz549]

I notice there is never any mention of Emerson. Is it the price or the liner lock? What if they offered a different steel at a lower price?

[@lanedexter6303]

BK-40 in D2 is good steel, disappointing plastic grip. Feels good until you use it, then you realize it is slippery and it allows blade wobble. You want a stronger frame & pivot, and a grip with some texture.

[@Moosehound597]

I bought the rat and hate the thing. blade wiggled heavy out the box, tightened the pivot and its back to wiggling two days after daily use. Its a god awful knife.

[@MB-jg4tr]

You must have gotten a lemon. Use blue locktight on the threads once you tighten it and it won't come loose.

[@Moosehound597]

@@MB-jg4tr I'm good, it's my least favorite knife I've ever bought.

[@MB-jg4tr]

@@Moosehound597 I don't really like it either, though it has good slicing geometry. I edc a Cold Steel Recon1

[@craigm2484]

I think that Buck can hold it's own against the Rat ! ?

[@koomo801]

Their 420HC is impressive. I'd say its edge holding is a bit below a 9Cr/AUS8, but the toughness and corrosion resistance is outstanding. It's the knife I recommend most to the scouts in our den and our troop. Besides, at that age we WANT them to sharpen their knives often, right?

[@MrLleyo81]

Buck waay is overrated cheap soft knives trying to be relevant in today's market

[@craigm2484]

@@MrLleyo81 Hey at that price point you cant complain about it I recently got the Buck 110 Auto I love it and I still use my Grandfather's 110 that he purchased in 1972 . That model is a Real deal Icon

[@Arto257]

​@MrLleyo81 maybe, but their made in USA line is one of the last holdouts of affordable domestic-made knives on the market. They're classics for a reason

[@DL-ij7tf]

The Buck 110 is twice as expensive as the Rat I and I would say isn't as good. A lot "cooler" of a knife to be sure but heavy and fragile. For the Buck 110's cost you can get a Cold Steel Code 4, one of the best pocket knives made. Heck you can get a CS Mini Recon or Air Lite for about the same as the Rat I which would beat it easily.

[@The4cp]

The Becker BK 40 is close. Price wise probably not at all. Sadly we didn't get many of the S35VN versions 😢 I chopped down a 2 inch diameter tree out of necessity with a Rat 1. I'd say it's a tough guy.

[@davidf3974]

Have both the byrd cara cara 2 and rat1, and god i love the byrd. Easy to spydie flick, better ergos, and i prefer the slim handle. Dissapears in the pocket easier than a pm2.

[@MrFomhor]

Bestech Paladin, RealSteel SeaEagle & a few Ruike's (121, 852...). But the winner, from those knives on your table, must be the CJRB!

[@PulledPurk]

The preview audio is disabled for this one for some reason

[@emersonb5764]

I love the grip on that CJRB Taiga. It’s unreal. Great knife, I just wish it had a thumb stud and the clip is a bit tight for a thick pocket hem. I bent a kink in mine to make a little clearance.

[@lettingthebearout7528]

Love the Rat 1. I own 50+ folders but still grab the Rat more than others. I hope it survives the ownership etc. Could be a bit more grippy. Could have a slightly bigger lanyard hole ( to more easily accept paracord)

[@johnscarborough4746]

Love the RAT 1 but probably the best head to head comparison would be the Civivi Praxis.

[@nvalley]

I think it's been discontinued which might be why DCA didn't reference it

[@johnscarborough4746]

@@nvalley Nope, in fact KC has 6-7 versions available.

[@rickw9008]

No Civivi? Praxis, mini Praxis, or Elementum should be in the mix!

[@ricardogarcia2889]

I edc my honeybadger large and its killer in the hand.

[@davidpape9179]

Most comfortable in the Harambe grip

[@AYellowPepper]

Ugh, Blue Ridge bought Cold Steel and SOG.. And since they were aquited they release at least 50% of garbage. Its a massive shame that ontario is now lost to such a garbage investor company.

[@dimitriskoukkos7378]

GSM bought cold steel and sog. Different company.

[@MrLlama999]

Anyone know where to get replacement scales for a mini cutjack?

[@rtz549]

Trace them out on something and cut them out?

[@pawejankowski5815]

Cold Steel Hunter I'd like to check. I got KA-BAR 40 and it's really cool.

[@CadillacDriver]

I carry a blaze orange 24/7. I also have desert tan and grey models tucked away, brand new.

[@greer776611]

The esse Avispa - kicks its ass- since i cut my finger twice on the dirty Rat!

[@SonoraSlinger]

Only better Ontario folding knife is the Utilitac 2 tanto imo.

[@jeffbownds8130]

That cjrb is better in every way except the ball bering pivot. And some may say that is an upgrade over washers. Buy that one instead

[@festushaggen2563]

I have the Rat 1 and 2. Great knives. For the quality and price, they are hard to beat.

[@user-tp9gy8kt2q]

Check out the Large model Voyager from Cold Steel - there are a few different blade styles to choose from, and some of them have a serrated blade option.

[@beck4218]

No, you cannot!

[@littlewoody5539]

Cold steel bushman beats rat 1

[@ozzlayer]

Rat 1 is a winner

[@lanedexter6303]

We have Rat-1s in AUS8 and D2 (get the Taiwan made, not China made). After discussing the pros and cons of liner locks with a friend, I bought a Ganzo D727M-GR in D2 for $26.95 on the A***** site, because it has a cross bolt lock. Turns out it is well made, and after retraining myself a bit, the cross bolt lock probably is safer. While I don’t endorse them, some knockoffs are pretty good.

[@grepora]

I was disappointed with the Ganzo 727. It could have been a fantastic alternative except for two design failures. (1) Jimping is rounded off so it provides no grip. (2) The curved front of the handle is reduced in size so the back corner of the blade is proud of the handle when folded closed. Why Ganzo? Why? However, the Ganzo 720 is a fantastic re-interpretation of the Lionsteel SR1 with a cross bar lock. It's a big, beefy, bruiser.

[@lanedexter6303]

I don’t have the problem of the blade being proud of the handle. Manufacturing variations? But I agree about the jimping being a bit rounded. And overall, it’s a tiny bit smaller than the RAT-1. I’ll have to check out that Ganzo 720. Thanks. @@grepora

[@davidgarrett5671]

You just endorsed them.

[@lanedexter6303]

LOL! I suppose. Let’s say I don’t endorse the concept, but… imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.🙄 Most knockoffs are crap, but a few imitations are fairly well done. Heck, we could say 1960’s Toyotas were imitations, but after a few decades they became better cars than most. @@davidgarrett5671

[@gcvrsa]

Any knife that is still in production beats anything from Ontario hands down. RIP Ontario.

[@trm2103]

DCA - any chance you and your team could work with the web design team to create a section cataloging the models you discuss in each video? I often want to find something you’ve mentioned but need to dig through numerous videos to find it. Having a section of the site with pages dedicated to the knives from each video would be super helpful. Thanks!

[@freestatefellow]

I don’t know if you’re taking suggestions, but I’d love to see the Becker in something like 14C28N or NitroV

[@IvIidnight]

I'll take the Tenacious any day.

[@rwe1]

I'd take the Steel Wills and any flippers over the RAT. I also like serrations too, so theres that.

[@Bytor-kh2nu]

If the rat is so great, then why can’t I get the one I ordered from you several weeks ago? where is my knife?!!

[@knifecenter]

We’re sorry you are experiencing issues with your order. If you could call (800.338.6799) or email ([e-mail]) our customer service team, we will be happy to get to the bottom of things. Thanks!

[@richardrudy2834]

Hands down cjrb.

[@jbrown8918]

I had to check before I said Ganzo, and sure enough it has been mentioned...Ganzo G729 will give the rat a run for the money 😊. Anyhow I love the Rat 2 too...

[@jbrown8918]

Nice choice of budget knives... maybe a Civivi or two could have been added...😊

[@acfanjgill]

I keep one in my glovebox at all times. Never know when you’ll need a hard use folder. If that’s not enough knife I’ll break out the Rat-5 😊

[@McRcFly]

Or the Junglas... 😂

[@AlexART79]

There are a lot of great knifes with the same price tag or even less, with the same materials, same build quality, ergo etc. But none of them can beat the Icon! Because RAT-1 is freakin Icon! )) One of the most recognizable knife on the market (i'm not saying the best choice for everyone)

[@iwrite61]

Really wanted to like the Rat 2 but my first experience was my last. My sample (from Amazon) had the blade tip sticking out past the liners and scales when closed. I carry tip up and near sliced my hand open going in my pocket. Had to send it back and never tried again.

[@TACLife]

Got my first rat in like.. 2006ish. Had one ever since. Loved the ergos so much bought 5 more so I'd never be without one!

[@PepperGeorge]

In my experience i'd rather have a blade made out of clay than from Aarp9. Clay beats a turd in my estimation. What a crappy steel and puzzling Knife Center keeps calling it "respectable"

[@StayHomeEatGreat]

Civivi Elementum is a worthy challenger. I just picked up a Praxis mini which is really nice but the lock on the liner is a bit hard to get to.