Beating Spider-Man 2 With No Upgrades

[@epiccakesgaming]

People have made a lot of good points that I didn't mention/explain well: - You can jump instead of parry during yellow ring attacks. - There's a setting to increase the window of time you have to parry - Dodge/parry timing window on Ultimate is much smaller than on lower difficulties. Like by a lot. - "No abilities/gadgets - I did use the abilities/gadgets that were automatically unlocked by the game, but didn't unlock any additional ones. That's the key difference. Also certain boss fights require abilities so even if I didn't use them, they'd have to be used in boss fights. - You can avoid some of the forced upgrades if you skip tutorials (tbh didn't know that was an option when I started this challenge) - You can spam parry and often it will successfully parry an attack. - I know certain parts make it look like I'm bad at the game but that's because I AM bad at the game. - The footage from the boss fights is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZ-zhaaGdtyAZ9k - Hope y'all enjoyed. I am much better at TLOU1/2 I swear

[@filqkathegamer3810]

And to parry a hit you need to press the button when the ring is red not yellow. That's why it is inconsistent.

[@drks650]

Bro no wonder I was struggling to parry/dodge on ultimate mode lol

[@aminulhussain2277]

Parries also only stun the enemy if you are parrying the last hit in their combo.

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

Ok

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

​@@filqkathegamer3810huh

[@jacobcenter7374]

For those of you struggling to parry, the game outright tells you that you can also jump, which has much more forgiving timing

[@dirtymike1286]

I was screaming this the whole video 😂😭

[@STRICKLE]

Until you die

[@theremnants6807]

You could also press the parry button when you're spider sense turns red. It's much more consistent than focusing on the enemy for the parry.

[@XtheminerproX]

​@@theremnants6807doesn't it damage you still

[@jacobcenter7374]

@@XtheminerproX you can tap it multiple times if you pushed it early and it'll be a full parry still

[@alphadoge8639]

Honestly the parrying makes this games combat soooo much more complex and interesting compared to the last game

[@Whiffs]

"I Tried Beating Spiderman 2 WITHOUT Taking DAMAGE" check out the video

[@McGilm342]

i will say this for the dodging the dodging mechanic hasnt grown inconsistent, its just a LOT more unforgiving compared to the first game you have to dodge/parry ONLY when your spidersense or rings around the enemy appear, and being just a second too early or too late is whats getting you hit i struggled with fights like this for a long while too, until i kinda retrained myself to only dodge/parry when prompted to, and that became a lot more consistent with avoiding damage

[@epiccakesgaming]

Oh absolutely. Rewatching the footage (and you can see it in a lot of the clips I included) I was definitely getting to a point where I would just spam dodge to an extent. I think the timing window on Ultimate where you CAN dodge is just so small I would start trying to anticipate it and dodge early because other times I would be way too slow to dodge.

[@slickanimations7005]

Have school bye ✌️ cya 11:46

[@jimnicholls5215]

Omg, that Turn Off the Dark joke had my jaw dropped

[@MegaManXPoweredUp]

The stuntmen dropped more than their jaws.

[@SOK39]

Requiring a full bar to heal is bullshit to me I prefer the first game’s healing

[@craigjuniormorrison4008]

Same

[@Scout819]

Yeah, I'd just come from Miles Morales when I played SM2, and it was something that definitely saved my butt numerous times in that game.

[@craigjuniormorrison4008]

@@Scout819 Same

[@zage932]

More of a challenge to save your bars for style or efficiency.

[@greatminikwu9089]

Sounds like a issue

[@SpeedDemon55]

The dedication in this video is next level. I fully upgraded my symbiote abilities today and looking back I feel bad for you. I still find the Scream boss fight hard even with loads of abilities and gadgets.

[@Whiffs]

"I Tried Beating Spiderman 2 WITHOUT Taking DAMAGE" check out the video

[@redwhiteranger6270]

This has inspired me to do only og Spider-Man abilities, punching, dodging, web shooters and throwing stuff around the map.

[@omegaspam5080]

This video inspired me to do the same thing but actually 100% with no skills. Going back to using skills makes the game feel a lot more refreshed.

[@JewishDonutz]

It’s crazy how you never miss with videos they’re all bangers

[@Whiffs]

"I Tried Beating Spiderman 2 WITHOUT Taking DAMAGE" check out the video

[@NanoTechBlueJ26]

God, I love no upgrade runs. It teaches me how to take the pleasure with the pain

[@sebastianmorin9780]

Wraith and Venom were the only ones to give me trouble during my Ultimate Run (No Upgrades) it’s funny how lots of ppl like to torture themselves in/with video games 😂

[@Whiffs]

"I Tried Beating Spiderman 2 WITHOUT Taking DAMAGE" check out the video

[@GMKGoji01]

The only game that allowed me to torture myself is Star Wars: Rogue Squadron. Since then, I stopped torturing myself in/with video games.🙃

[@Corgix2077]

As a person who took like a day to do the kraven fight it hurt to watch the snipe montage.

[@only.korê]

i actually did this, in my opinion this game takes 3 steps forward and one step back in terms of combat. I felt like it was too easy and did an immediate second run the same way you did.

[@MegasXRL]

Dude on spectacular difficulty if you rush main story don’t getting most of skills and upgrades the game does provides a nice challenge (thats how I played first time) I was doing some side stuff but almost all the Hero tokens i let for post game so i got stucked at low suit tech specs and low gadgets. Struggled a lot in the boss fights with only one focus bar and 100 health bar

[@Boredrimmed]

Yessir… it has arrived 🙏 BTW, the lizard fight on ultimate difficulty is litteraly impossible

[@anoldweirdo7084]

it was difficult at first but over time i could do it taking almost no hits

[@epicfilmer2474]

Idk man I thought it was easy, but to be fair immediately before this game I played Witcher death march and platinumed both the other Spider-Man games so I might be biased.

[@Boredrimmed]

@@epicfilmer2474 yeah I just beat it the other night

[@pifonto-fr]

I beat the Lizard today in Ultimate Difficulty and I know what you mean Idk if you're still stuck on it or not, but I recommend just not using the Symbiote abilities (other than the Surge) and just switching back to Peter's Mechanical Arms, they're way more OP than the Symbiote abilities

[@drybeaters]

The transition at 2:25 was insane

[@MegaBoris636]

I thought I was the only one who noticed that 💀

[@BobThePenguin.]

Im pretty sure they didnt go for mysterio cause there was no way theyd be able to keep him contained while letting him have his illusions. Not to mention those illusions definitely arent gonna be doing anything to Kraven

[@Jtb1122own]

Now beat it on ultimate with no upgrades and not taking a single hit 😈

[@MortimerDaMouse]

That’s a foul request 💀

[@milestailsprower7566]

Without any abilities 💀

[@bambamtheexplorer4900]

And restart it if you get hit

[@Fire_Crystal]

Yea, I did this by accident because it was the first Spiderman game I played. I didn’t play on ultimate though and I was struggling until after I beat the game I figured it out

[@inkedthedemon]

Reminds me of the time My brother almost beat miles morales with no upgrades cuz he forgot to upgrade until the final boss cuz he didn’t realize there was abilities he needed

[@WayneSmith-g8h]

Just as a tip for next time you do another challenge for this game: Don't do that Brooklyn Visions mission where you save the teacher. It is not required for the main story of the game. And I love this video, I haven't seen any of your other vids, but I am probably going to watch more of them!

[@JOCAeNUNO]

If you want a little hint, just pressing the parry button will have spiderman raise up his arms and block making you take almost no damage

[@gentletal5101]

Peter. No amount of symbiote with protect you from a spanish moms wrath.

[@Aspect985]

"R.I.P Jeff, I knew you would've loved og fortnite" Had me DYING

[@lost_moss_head8393]

For the kraven with the sniper part literally just hide behind trees and it won’t hit

[@jimv568]

I did the same when the game was made. Venom and Kraven were hard.

[@JuanVillalobos]

23:40 I would’ve just thrown the PS5 out the window oh my god

[@epiccakesgaming]

Oh trust me I almost switched to a different challenge but I convinced myself if I could get within one hit then I could beat it and it only took me a few more tries. Still the worst choke in any of my challenges I think 😭

[@lonniecoomes2567]

On any phase of Mr. negative you can just wall trash him until he loses, and to do this I would recommend venom dashing him into the wall

[@mrrhythm5711]

Where in the hell is the fun in that though

[@matthewdadamio4512]

First + Spider-Man 2 throwables only

[@epiccakesgaming]

Throwables only in this game would genuinely be impossible so this is a great idea!

[@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS]

​@@epiccakesgamingyou can web up smaller enemies and make them throwables

[@ryderschroeder-theoret6345]

The way you just played thus is the exact way I played it my first time cause I forgot about the upgrades. But I still use the surges

[@DaTiredOne]

18:22 I love how spider-man use a gun 😂😂

[@andray310]

I also did an Ultimate with only traversal suit tech. Combat is fun because you have to focus and actually get good. But you’re a masochist for no skills and abilities.

[@ShashinGeoD]

I learned that the bear guy in the Emily May Foundation could be killed with stealth

[@Fullmetal_Prodigy-03]

You can change the Parry timing settings in the gameplay option settings

[@epiccakesgaming]

Correct (and tbh I recommend doing this) but for the purpose of this challenge I didn't want to make anything easier lol

[@mora9954]

The “ I missed the part where that’s my problem” got me

[@poohharvey2154]

Fun fact you can actually ignore the venom blast part for miles. I was doing my second playthrough and I used my venom jump as soon as the enemies showed up and I used venom jump instead of the venom blast

[@LIGHTNING1381]

5:30 is basically a big ol' " Is there a lore reason Harry didn't try to bend the bars? Is he stupid??".😂😂 18:53 Ouch. Sick burn bruh😂😂

[@Darkninjaneo]

New upload nice have to wake up the kids in the basement for this

[@jackmorris4326]

That bite of 87 part actually made me laugh out loud😂😂😂😂

[@whrench2676]

29th, and how about, just to torture you, spectacular difficulty (ultimate if u want) but you can only use the l1 abilities to attack and defeat people, no regular attack Also no parry cause those might possibly do a little bit of damage

[@goldenduck2756]

so we are gonna ignore the transition at 2:22 from Peter to miles?

[@Sandy-ik1ic]

I really feel like dodging and parrying would be easier if during the white/yellow dodge/parry window the indicator didn’t even appear and only the red ones did for the perfect dodge and parry indicators. As soon as I see an indicator I reflexively respond, and it always messed me up in the tougher fights on ultimate

[@mrrhythm5711]

Well yes, it would. But that's why they did it, to make the game more challenging. If you want easier gameplay play on Friendly Neighbourhood 😂

[@Black34879]

The only indicator I struggle with is the blue one Due to the fact I instantly go for parrying when I see indicators I’ve played too many games this year that simply rocked that feature Souls games,RE:4,Witcher 3 etc Became an habit at that point lol

[@Kohcreed522]

I played this game on the hardest difficulty as well but I upgraded and used gadgets as well but I was stuck on lizard for awhile too.

[@Kohcreed522]

I didn't really use my gadgets except my regular web blasts

[@theghostofgaza]

Hahaha i remember being in the crowd during the spider man show where the actor fell , funny reference given that u were in times square

[@freddyandfriends2035]

I have a tip when the bear in Emily may foundation what you do is get out of the bears sight for a while then when he can’t find you then press triangle and you’ll get him in one punch

[@scytheproduction7667]

Beating the game without any upgrade is bassicaly what I did first time because I speedrun through the entire story without doing any side missions. God knows that 25378/20 for a single upgrade is big

[@wheattoast1971]

I did little to no side stuff my first time playing, got my ass kicked at ever boss. But that was with abilities on and on Amazing difficulty. You are absolutely mad doing that on Ultimate with nothing.

[@viqeteq]

Today i fought kraven on hardest diff and thank god im not only one who got mental issues because of that sniper

[@epiccakesgaming]

Yeah Kraven’s sniper is insane. Without that I think the fight would be significantly easier. I did a test and might make a short on this, but on Ultimate you literally have 30 frames/half a second to dodge from when the spidey senses appear to when you get shot - hence why I was so jumpy and dodged early so often lol.

[@viqeteq]

@@epiccakesgaming i feel less stupid reading this, not only one with these problems 😭🙏

[@mochii813]

Ngl I kinda hate how the bossfights are in arena type areas

[@slushiesoldier]

I find that spamming the party button during that fight works pretty well

[@Benthedoomslayer]

6 hours on kraven , just wow , just earned yourself a sub

[@ΠροδρομοςΠετρελλης]

I also did this challenge and it was the most difficult challenge I have tried so far . I only had a hard time with wraith boss( it was my first boss on this run so I had no idea how consistent I had to be), kraven part 2, venom part 2 and 4, and the subway fight with all the symbiotes. I will try segmented no hit run next ( it shouldn't be that hard segmented , because I can reload checkpoints )

[@PointingouttheObvious]

The parry thing is pretty simple you only stun enemies in a perfect party anything else is a block that reduces damage. It’s pretty forgiving so all you have to do is pay attention

[@PointingouttheObvious]

So yeah you struggling was just a skill issue it’s all about timing if you miss the timing you fail simple as that

[@PointingouttheObvious]

Brother you suck at dodging holy shit most of those where you dodging too early objectively. The timing is not that hard lmao

[@speedyminccino9341]

With the mini, shield boss where kraven rang the bell you can just hide from him for a bit and he forgets you existence and you can one hit stealth kill him

[@GS_Official120]

I highly agree about kraven He was a Pain In the Ass in my first playthrough but new game plus was a breeze

[@KronosCason]

my first video of you and i already love this

[@imronnyy7700]

bro had so much trouble with the green symbiotes when all he had to do was shoot a singular web at them😂

[@נועם_אופק]

After seeing that video I has to try it myself It was definitely the hardest challenge I have ever tried More of this is depression because I can't use the symbiote surge Thx for the idea :)

[@simpae2731]

I did this on my first time for spectacular difficulty and wow it was muncher harder than part 1

[@sausejr0578]

I beat the game without using suit tech or buying any of Peter’s skill tree so I didn’t realise the suit tech acc gave u an extra bar so I was struggling with 1 bar of focus on hardest difficulty against venom was quite painful but got there eventually

[@ShinnyShinnShinn]

holy shit man this deserves so many more views! fucking love the editing for real. great video!

[@shadowninja22suborelse.56]

I finally found someone who also had trouble parrying like me

[@ethannagioff7584]

You must have worn out the circle button to death

[@harrypullin4109]

Finally someone else who does this

[@CaseOhClipz1]

The time where Herry fell from high place got me laughing 😂😂😂😂

[@Zillaverse483]

In the mister negative boss fight,he used miles’ abilities several times.

[@jacob-612]

Bro at 2 minutes and 20 seconds had me rolling

[@BlacksuitSpider-man819]

13:28 bro just called Kraven a fake hunter😂😂

[@rymo1378]

Good luck with the craven boss fight and the venom boss fight

[@Black34879]

Tip for parrying if you have shitty timing You can just spam the parry button rlly fast and it will parry 90% of the time Or just increase the parry window on settings

[@trashygamer7014]

The reason parries don’t work when you get the timing is because the enemy is doing a combo and the game won’t let you stun them till the final hit

[@STROLET]

this is literally how I played the game cuz I forgot that there was suit tech and gadgets

[@Swag_Massiah14]

i think the spider man hair suit looks dope 4 miles

[@Breadabdfood]

With the bear guy, I hit him into a tree and he died instantly lol bro didn’t want honey

[@Pickle-guy]

First time I played I was confused as to why I couldn’t get a second or third focus bar and after beating venom I realized I just had to upgrade suit tech

[@Kohcreed522]

16:15 this boss fight was pretty easy cause you know all his moves up until that point

[@mrrhythm5711]

Uh not on Spectacular or harder

[@fidaniiiiii0]

ngl this was a very well made video

[@whoafreegluten]

Yeah, um..a bit iffy there at 8:57. Yellow does mean you must parry, but it doesn't mean you must time it then. You time your parry when it turns RED. Accidentally dodging instead of parrying is just a skill issue you'd have to practice on. I had a tough time with parrying, too, but I eventually got the gist of it. And after getting the gist of it, I don't find it inconsistent, myself. Parrying is an unexpectedly major mechanic introduced to the game's combat that us players just have to get to know and practice.

[@sil-o-tron7950]

2:25 clean transtion.

[@Samsgm]

20:24 "Miles original" was so bad I thought it was a glitch, On god

[@ImDrippyGorilla]

5:22 LOL

[@renamamiya2279]

Peter & Miles: "No upgrades? 🥺"

[@Heddinbre]

Bro the sniper was so easy to doge what is bro on about the Dodging being Inconsistent I have a hard time not perfect dodging and I play ultimate this is the the pary does get some getting used to but once you get the hang of it it's super easy this guy genuinely has a skill issue

[@Heddinbre]

I also have the setting where the perfect dodge has I tight window

[@myanperera5570]

The hunters had a tracker on the lizard serum

[@JJ-xt2di]

Thank you Freddy Fazbear

[@abdo.145]

17:35 aaawwww

[@kosei8338]

I completely forgot to upgrade so i never did. Now i understand why this game was so hard 🤣

[@Gordon_Freeman1838]

“just my self and 19 inches of venom” - epiccakesgaming 2023

[@Hearvan1020]

It was the bite of 2023 markiplier

[@Spoky_Pun]

Even though I raged a lot, this game was definitely my GOTY. Story was great, most of the suits were nice, my favorite part was Coney Island, followed up closely by the MJ sections, they remind me of TLOU a lot. Combat was definitely improved.

[@Whiffs]

"I Tried Beating Spiderman 2 WITHOUT Taking DAMAGE" check out the video

[@Spoky_Pun]

@@Whiffs Why?

[@Whiffs]

cuz its a good vid@@Spoky_Pun

[@Spoky_Pun]

@@Whiffs *cough* self advertising *cough*

[@azrael9578]

Basically did this on my first playthrough because I used the tokens on suits instead of upgrades

[@okkikjrm2]

Great video!

[@Drequan]

u can spam parry and it'll work everything this game is a joke on every difficulty ☠️ i hope this helps u in ur next challenge

[@rhovac619]

i might be dumb but i swear I saw him use symbiote punch and spider arms multiple times in sections that you didnt need to

[@epiccakesgaming]

Not dumb, you would be correct! If the rules weren’t clear: I was allowed to use abilities like those since the game auto unlocked them, but I wasn’t allowed to manually unlock new abilities or upgrade any of the ones that the game gave me.

[@rhovac619]

ok cool. great video btw@@epiccakesgaming

[@XxDeMoN1C_PyROxX]

So I accidentally sped through the story on spectacular without any kind of upgrades. I was trying to save harry lmao

[@Camandox11]

I didn't even know upgrades were a thing until the end of the game I beat it In amazing without upgrades lol

[@adamburgess311]

11:48 spider man doesn’t kill but “ I miss the part where’s that’s my problem”

[@Shadow-Blade.09]

I went through my first playthrough on normal and didn’t get any upgrades until I beat the story, and it was fine.

[@owenguyy]

yea, on normal

[@100_funsshatta]

​​@@owenguyyit's easy on ultimate but you'll be dying alot without increased parry dodge timing turned on

[@SparkyofHouseMoist]

sometimes you need to parry multiple hits in a row to counter an enemy