Beating the 25-minute barrier? Unless... | PAYDAY 2 Fastest Infamy Farming

[@Marcmb]

What a run! Very nice. Keep in mind that this attempt was recorded about ~5 months ago (due to delayed uploads) so the current strategies are even more advanced, making it possible to save yet another minute, or even more for faster rotations. If you would like to attempt these speedruns yourself (for fun, for infamies, or for the WR), make sure to join our Discord server! discord.gg/nAJSqDzqz3 We have learning runs, and daily lobbies for players of all skill levels. See you there heisters :D Also for anyone who wrote before this edit - welcome to the early comments for this video's premiere. If you're here too early and have nothing to do, feel free to go check out our guide for the previous Infamy rotation we showcased (only ~27-28 minutes per Infamy, but slow compared to this one). Guide here! steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3243177877

[@steyok]

Thanks marc!

[@Marcmb]

@@steyok You're welcome Steyok! See you on the Discord :D

[@pelvismen5510]

Hello again! Are the changes related to the rotations and heists kept up to date somewhere? For example the steam ecm rush guide? Also what do you think about ecm rushing with 3 people? We have been basing our rushes off of all your ecm rushes (and the guide + discord), but ofcourse we needed to make optimizations for ourselves. We rushed BB, SR, DS, ED and some more. Do you think mountain master, black cat, and hostile takeover are also doable for us? I would also really love to see rushes/rotations optimized for the number of people in lobby somewhere in the future! Just an Idea. Love your work!

[@QueenMaisyyy]

@@pelvismen5510 bcat is definetely possible with 3 people, take pecms to be sure

[@pelvismen5510]

@@QueenMaisyyy I'll try it, thanks.

[@cuscus5011]

Imagine: you’re in a jewellery store, 4 men rushes in, destroys a glass wall, tosses bottles with a burning cloth on top, standing on the fire, talking to the pager operator on the guards’ pager, bags up jewellery, and runs into a van and fleets. All in a minute time

[@Marcmb]

Haha! The part with the molotovs inside the store would definitely be very scary for any civilians or guards in the store. As soon as those people walk in, you immediately know they are absolutely crazy...

[@mart9545]

Next time on weird and goofy marcmb guide's, marc will go loud without going loud while having a detection rating of -75 and getting billions and trillions of xp.

[@Marcmb]

Yes! Sounds like the recent San Martín loud stealth rush. More of those soon!

[@E_xtinctPower]

@@Marcmb that was a crazy video, mind blown

[@Marcmb]

@@E_xtinctPower :D Glad you liked that one, thank you very much! It took us a while to understand why our strategies were failing, and how to fix that, but it was really fun!

[@wonderfultaco7853]

4 months later and it happened.

[@h3llcruizzer739]

This really is utterly insane! I remember back when 40 minutes was the magical number. How far you've come is incredible!

[@Marcmb]

Thank you very much h3ll! Glad you liked this new run :) Not only is it incredibly fast, we also time them in ingame time for WR purposes, so the entire issue with long loads and long joinings is gone too. You should definitely join us someday!! Ping us in E4 and we'll do some runs, Readraid is also coming back right now :p

[@livek1238]

I dunno why, but those some messeges on the chat are so cute ^^ (my fav is hiiiiiiiiii)

[@Marcmb]

:D Thanks livek! hiiiiii is a classic!

[@mauer1]

23:30 thats some very ambigious aiming you are trying there when you think i am not looking :P

[@Marcmb]

Noooo I knew someone was gonna mention it haha! If any of those shots had landed, it would've been supreme aim, but...

[@satapon148]

We all know how marcmb's aim is he just try to "improve" them

[@dyrax999]

Great video as always! 🍅 The ED blunder timer was very nice :D

[@Marcmb]

Thank you mistah tomate!!! Shame that all the time lost on the ED blunder was my fault :( But it was a good run nonetheless! Definitely the most fun to showcase the old sub-25 attempts :p

[@breakfost]

9:02 I think that's the alarm.

[@Marcmb]

That's the alarm that's the alarm guys that's the alarm that's the alarm guys that's the alarm that's the alarm guys that's the alarm that's the alarm guys

[@selphieb1549]

Another fastest infamy farming its just amazing and fun to see the marcmb and his squad speedrunning xD

[@Marcmb]

Glad you enjoyed it Selphie! You should join us for one of these, for sure!

[@Liegnitz69]

great players you got there and Border Crossing was just a treat! nice run

[@Marcmb]

Thank you very much Liegnitz! Glad you liked it :D

[@alkitgaming]

one day my saw will be ready for this run. awesome work as always marc

[@Marcmb]

It absolutely will yes! Excellent progress already Alkit. Glad you liked this one, and thank you! :D

[@ragemaster9001]

We need a fail compilation so we can all see how insane this really is because holy

[@Marcmb]

Oooh that would be a funny video concept! I do have some funny fails that would be interesting to share :D Although this ED DAY2 blunder was one of the biggest ones. RIP the run!

[@ito_obli]

having in mind that we now have 30 loadout slots , wouldnt be faster to have ready loadouts with x amount of points in the run for example right after the first heist you change to loadout 2 which would already have the skills ready so you dont waste time spending the skills even tho is minimal but maybe could be a small time save?

[@Marcmb]

Hey ito! This would absolutely be a nice timesave yup. A few updates ago it was only possible with mods, but now it's possible in vanilla, so some people in the community have already started doing it. In my case I play too many different rotations to make it feasible (plus skilling is fun), but as soon as I start tryharding for one specific rot, I'll absolutely pre-make all my profiles!

[@MrRazmon]

wow if this was 5 months ago you're close to max infamy again which is crazy

[@Marcmb]

Haha yup! Incredible pace with these reliable fast rotations. My latest reset was around December of last year, so about half a year for 500 again :D My uploads are a bit delayed (latest Infamy progress video was my 600th level) but I'll have a few more videos on the progress throughout the summer :p

[@Krewer69]

Stopped playing Payday 2 cause my hardware is shit, but HOLY good God, i LOVE your videos, and when i still used to play the game you helped me so much mate

[@Marcmb]

Thank you very much Krewer! Glad you still enjoyed this one, even as a currently retired heister. Very glad to hear that I was able to help you with my guides and videos :D

[@cuchusac4704]

I love your videos so much, keep it up 💟

[@Marcmb]

Thank you very much cuchusac! I appreciate it :D

[@OGuiBlindao]

Is it 20 minyte barrier?

[@Marcmb]

Hi there Gui! You can see some pixels under the redacted thumbnail... make your best guess! :p

[@captainmacmillan8238]

Hi Marc love the videos, are you still planning on doing guide videos on payday 3? I’d love to see guides on the new progression system and stealth guides like the payday 2 ones, keep them coming ❤

[@Marcmb]

Hey Captain! Definitely still planning on them yup. I have a few PAYDAY 2 videos already half in progress, but during the summer I'll have a lot more free time, so I'll be working on videos for both! Glad you're enjoying the content, thank you :D

[@ThisIsFun-fl8tb]

🥰all homies love marcmb

[@Marcmb]

Hiii mistah Funos!! Thank you for the lovely comment :CatPing:

[@MangoObsessor]

Hey Marc. You should maybe try doing an Infamy guide for console PAYDAY 2 players, i think that'd help with some Infamy leveling since console players have next to nothing. Other than that, great video! Love you! (Platonically)

[@Marcmb]

Thank you ManWhoLikesMangos! Glad you're liking the content :) As for console rotations, sadly you guys are missing a lot of DLCs, so many rotations are impossible... one of the oldest rotations that I shared (Diamond Store / Shadow Raid / Election Day / Big Bank) is possible, but beyond that it would be tricky!

[@MangoObsessor]

​@@MarcmbYeah, i'm not that smart at doing math and figuring out rotations for stuff etc etc so i heavily rely on guides and you're my number 1 since you have helped me a great deal even though pc and console are different. Luckily, it wont be like that for PAYDAY 3 though! Keep up the good work!

[@Marcmb]

@@MangoObsessor Thank you for the kind words! Good to hear I've been able to help. I might post more "no DLC" rotations in the future (which will work for console too, but will be slower than DLC rots for PC players who have access to more heists). Hopefully PAYDAY 3 starts growing soon: I love the fact that it has crossplay, so all players are on the same version, and can play together effortlessly...

[@L-O_T]

6:39 How did u set a custom background music before Heist begin?

[@Marcmb]

Hey LOT! That song is called "Drifting", and I have it set to play whenever I'm in the "preplanning / assets" screen. If you go into your sound settings, you can choose your menu songs there!

[@L-O_T]

@@Marcmb Thanks!

[@Marcmb]

@@L-O_T You're welcome :) Happy to help!

[@spkoftdvl]

I have a maybe a bit silly question, if you haven't already tried it: Wouldn't it be better to create a specific distribution of skill points in each profile, taking into account the amount of points you get with each map from level 0 to 100? This way you don't have to distribute points in each prep, which I know is done quickly, but for example: profile 1 already has the exact distribution for the first map of the round. profile 2 the same, profile 3 the same and so on, each profile even has the build assembled for the map that corresponds to it in the list. I'm still waiting for the Scarface Mansion ECM :c -GVZ

[@Marcmb]

Hiiii GVZ! Scarface rush someday for sure, we have so many different ongoing projects, it's hard to find time for everything :D Also you should join us!!!!! As for your question, that would absolutely be a nice timesave yup. A few updates ago it was only possible with mods, but now it's possible in vanilla, so some people in the community have already started doing it. In my case I play too many different rotations to make it feasible (plus skilling is fun), but as soon as I start tryharding for one specific rotation, I'll absolutely pre-make all my profiles!

[@Vexruna]

payday 2 at its peak performance

[@Marcmb]

Absolutely! Really fun playing at this speed. Glad you liked it, Scylorn! :)

[@GOD404..]

Whitest (wildest) one here, GODDAMN thats fast marc! Im right now on vacations, so thats why im not talking on the server, anyways, good vid as always!

[@Marcmb]

Hey there Wildest! We were wondering what happened to you, because we haven't seen you in LFP lately. The latest Aficionado who applied after you (Alkit) is already applying for Experienced role! Enjoy your vacation, and see you whenever you're back :D

[@GOD404..]

@@Marcmb im coming back tomorrow, also, dang he's quick

[@Marcmb]

@@GOD404.. Welcome back Wildest! Sorry I didn't have time for the lobby yesterday. I'll be able to play tomorrow late at night, or on Sunday! I'll be in LFP :D

[@GOD404..]

@@Marcmb i'll be waiting for ya!

[@gilby_6543]

How often do runs fail due to disconnects from u237 and u240?

[@Marcmb]

Good question Gilby! There is one massive issue right now which is desync (preventing heists from starting), but thankfully that only happens when someone crashes. I would say about 1 out of every 5 or 10 runs has a crash in the middle (extending the RT timer by a lot), but when that happens we just look at the IGT instead, since you can fairly compare 2 runs via ingame time as long as they are the same rot (or same number of heists).

[@cursedlake]

As a guy who’s trying to make his detection risk minimum with one gun, is there a certain weapon I should use to get it as low as possible? I’m currently using the CAR-4 with as many mods as I can, but I feel like I could go lower. Any tips?

[@Marcmb]

Hey Cursed Lake! The CAR-4 is indeed a great choice yup. I recently uploaded a video with my UPDATED stealth build, which has a section where my weapons (and weapon mods) are shown. Here's a timestamped link if you want to see my CAR-4: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6S2hYSbpZqYqLc Other good options are the Cavity (good concealment without requiring as many mods), or any of the Bows (if you have their DLC).

[@addison6536]

these vids are fire and i dont even play payday 2 anymore

[@Marcmb]

:D Glad you're enjoying these, even as a currently retired heister. Thank you very much addison!

[@miscritop5924]

Great. Now it's time to find friends.

[@Marcmb]

Hey miscritop!! Definitely join our Discord server, to find lobbies for these kinds of rushes, and also new friends!

[@UnderscoreAqua]

is there any reason you all use in game chat instead of a vc for infamy rushes? or is it just something your group prefers?

[@Marcmb]

Hi again Aqua! Some people like rushing with VC, in which case we will use it (some people include it in the recording while others record the track separately and exclude it). However a majority prefers playing without VC, so we have strategies to coordinate everything with the chat if needed.

[@UnderscoreAqua]

@@Marcmb I figured it was something of that sort, im very used to competitive scenes within games so seeing something so highly optimized without a vc had me intrigued, but as far as i can tell you all do this almost like a hobby more than anything, and thats honestly the coolest way ive seen a community treat something, huge props to all of you, and thanks for taking the time to reply!

[@blkguy3rd]

does the color of the person matter that much or is it just for the sake of easily organizing who does what?

[@Marcmb]

Good question blkguy! Some things must absolutely be done by the host because they work better on 0 ping, or are broken for clients. Other than that, anything would work, but it's easier to organize with pre-set color-based roles For example, most ECMs are placed in lobby order (Green Blue Red Yellow), so the shorter heists never need Red/Yellow ECMs: for this reason, the entire rotation becomes a lot more efficient if those 2 are given saw roles, so they can invest skill points into Frenzy before ECM skills, for maximum saw damage, and Yakuza speed at the same time.

[@taczki2]

Where did you check the safe side in Black Cat? I didn't see you taking out your saw there

[@Marcmb]

Excellent question taczki! I can't do the saw check myself, because nearby guards would hear it, immediately wasting my arrest cooldown (and making the hand skip impossible). However at that exact moment, you can see Twits sprinting right next to me, and he's the one using the saw to make the noise!

[@taczki2]

@@Marcmb oooh, so he is using the saw, but you are writin in the chat to save a little bit of time?

[@Marcmb]

@@taczki2 That's exactly it yup! The reason is because he is running to the intel (which delays all objectives until it's done), so if he stopped to type, he would be losing time and delaying the completion time.

[@Diamond-ji2gv]

What do you think about doing Death Sentence in Casino starting the drill and then doing the vault glitch to earn 4 million?

[@Marcmb]

Hey Diamond! It's a very relaxing method for XP farming. I think Unknown Knight made a video about that a while ago, but I'm not fully sure...

[@the_officials38]

Why do you throw down your ECMs instead of Green first?

[@Marcmb]

Hi The Officials! It depends on the heist. Sometimes Blue goes first, and other times it's Green. Mostly it's because placing the ECM slows you down a bit, so if the host is running for some objective that requires max speed (like tagging the trucks in Election Day), then Blue takes care of ECM1. On Black Cat the host needs to start the heist by hacking the PC, so placing an ECM before that would delay him by a full second, so obviously Blue places ECM1. It's always timesaves of this type!

[@Echs_D33]

With how crazy infamy optimization is getting, you reckon a time will ever come where the only possible timesave is voicechatting info rather than spending the tiniest bit of time typing it?

[@Marcmb]

That might happen someday yup! There's some useful information that you can easily share on voice chat, but it's not feasible to share it via text chat. We already have some people in the community who love rushing with VC, so this is something we could test in the future!

[@thedootguy4444]

fire video

[@Marcmb]

Thank you very much DootGuy! Glad you liked it :D

[@zyllaQ]

im also excited

[@Marcmb]

It's starting very soon zylla!!

[@twitsTV]

hi!!

[@Marcmb]

@@twitsTV aloooo mistah Twips!

[@twitsTV]

@@Marcmb hi marp!!!!!!!!!

[@highvisibilityraincoat]

Whats the best way to silently zerk now that molotovs are different?

[@Marcmb]

Hey Raincoat! For 2 molotovs (as shown here in the Diamond Store rush at Level 0), the zerk is still the same, but the extra explosion damage (10 HP from each) will leave you at 10 HP instead of the usual 30, which is a lot better. For stealth, the molotovs are actually quieter, so zerking with fire is easier than it used to be. Here's a video where I explain the new zerks in detail, and the changes to the molotov sound: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWaThHxvebWVmrc

[@imeimenic]

are you gonna make a solo infamy speedrun video?

[@Marcmb]

Hey imeimenic! Definitely planned yup, many different routes to showcase many different heist combinations (because some solo heisters don't like doing Murky Station, or UKP, or GGC, or some particular heist...). First I'll finish the top 8 heists or so (currently 5 done and working on 6th), and after that will come the rotations!

[@smasher4291]

If you were allowed the RNG manipulator mod, and could place each piece of RNG for every heist, how fast do you think you could get it?

[@Marcmb]

Excellent question Smasher! It would save a huge amount of time (all heists would play differently), so it's considered a cheat by most of the community and therefore never used. However, for the sake of science, we will check it out someday! I can guarantee it'll save at least a couple minutes...

[@smasher4291]

@@Marcmb I know it's a cheat but it'd be interesting to see an absolute god run for the sake of science some day.

[@Marcmb]

@@smasher4291 For the sake of science it would be quite interesting yup! Of course with a huge disclaimer that the strategies are unrealistic, but for science :D

[@DocDog]

wait a minute... you resetted the 500 infamy and already got 370? that's insane!

[@Marcmb]

Yup! At the pace we're farming these infamies, it's getting incredibly fast. I have a video coming soon for my 666th Infamy (funny number), and then I might upload 777... the idea is to catch up in all those progress videos, so then I can farm infamies in real time :p

[@The_great_M0N0LITH]

The dream team 😎

[@Marcmb]

Thanks Monolith! Glad you could join us for the premiere, and hope you enjoyed watching live :D

[@The_great_M0N0LITH]

@@Marcmb Yes it was cool to see 😊

[@matiasdaf9339]

25min Congrats!

[@Marcmb]

Thank you very much Matias! Thanks for joining us for the premiere, and hope you enjoyed it :D

[@matiasdaf9339]

@@Marcmb Haha you deserv it for publishing all this payday2 content ! Do u stream ur infamy runs?

[@Marcmb]

@@matiasdaf9339 Not yet! I do have plans to play them live at some point though, and maybe teaching people in real time if anyone's interested. Perhaps during the summer, when I will have more time :D

[@GetOffUrPhone]

Damn that was so fun to watch

[@Marcmb]

Glad you liked it Phone, that is great to hear :D

[@animebestinworld]

hey when wlll tou post pd3?

[@Marcmb]

Hi GTA6! Current plan is to start posting this summer, since I'll have more free time. Currently my schedule is very busy and the fact that I need to sit in match-making / menus for 3-4 minutes before each heist takes too much time for me...

[@cottoneyejoe8285]

So, how fast can you get to level 100 using only normal difficulty?

[@Marcmb]

Oof, that would take forever... the XP reward in Normal is reduced to 1/15th, so it would literally take 15 times more, plus a bit extra perhaps... ouch.

[@cottoneyejoe8285]

@@Marcmb Oh yeah, that'll be a grind. Still, normalinfamy% would be a fun speedrun category to start and optimize!

[@Marcmb]

@@cottoneyejoe8285 It would be quite fun as a challenge (lots more heists being played, so a lot more to optimize), but it would be a bit frustrating to play! Perhaps doing 15 infamies in a row instead? Same amount of time and very unforgiving on the timer for any mistakes, but more efficient for the grind :D

[@cottoneyejoe8285]

@@Marcmb It's almost equivalent, I'd say, just without the struggle of only getting skills after 15 times the heists

[@Marcmb]

@@cottoneyejoe8285 Yup yup, I'll think about it because it's an interesting concept :p On the one hand the Normal variant is more interesting because skills are obtained at a much slower pace, but the regular variant is a lot more fast-paced (constantly restarting back to 0) and more XP-efficient. Either way it'll be an interesting challenge to look into! :D

[@teneluxxbrissdiswisfismis]

I’m exicted

[@Marcmb]

Look forward to it teneluxx, it's just about to start!

[@matejnovak5735]

Could you play with my marcmb?

[@Marcmb]

Hey Matej, you absolutely can yup! In the pinned comment you can find our Discord server, and in there we have a channel for lobbies (random stealth, ECM rushing...) where I play every day whenever I have time! Everyone is always allowed to join, so see you there :D

[@CurvyKirby2.-]

My guess is 16 minutes barrier

[@CurvyKirby2.-]

I was so wrong

[@Marcmb]

Haha wild guess! You could see some pixels on the redacted pre-premiere thumbnail, and I think the two at the front was just slightly visible!

[@CesarZ526]

Do you only play on pc???

[@Marcmb]

Hey Cesar! I don't even own a console unfortunately, so I am only a PC player yup.

[@syntex22rm97]

I prefer play Elections Day full stealth for 25% bonus And Cuz I don't have friends to play and ecm rushing except for my boyfriend I play Coof off on Overkill, for 3 hour, that's means 100 bags It gives me 24m XP Easy but spending a lot of time to full infamy pink line But now with faster cooking mod I just spend 1h and 20min But still be little boring sometimes

[@Marcmb]

Election Day for 20% stealth bonus is amazing yup! Very nice before any big heist. Cook Off is also a very relaxing way to farm XP (although not very fast), but using the Cook Faster mod will be considered cheating by many, so watch out!!!

[@elitistSkid]

❤‍🔥

[@Marcmb]

Hiii Skid! Hope you made it in time for the premiere :D After MM learning runs, we can start teaching this one!

[@pinki_ninja2230]

welp i guess thats how far your aim will get you XD

[@Marcmb]

Haha! I tried to hit him so many times, but every single shot just missed... it was better than doing nothing since I was just moving money / weapons, but still that aim was so bad! Btw Pinki you should join us someday for one of these runs! Remember that every time you rejoin the server you can just ask to get the orange name back without doing anything, so you should fo sho join us for some runs!

[@P1VAs1338]

can u say ur mods please?

[@xdxd-ej2zz]

he has a video regarding that, look it up

[@Marcmb]

Hey P1Vas! Sorry for the late response. Just like *@xdxd-ej2zz* said before me, I have a video with all my mods. It's in the video description!

[@P1VAs1338]

@@Marcmb thanks Marcmb, good luck

[@Marcmb]

@@P1VAs1338 No problem, happy to help :)

[@Warfacekiller1997]

Do some payday 3 videos

[@xdxd-ej2zz]

the game is ass currently

[@Marcmb]

Hey Warface! Definitely during this summer... As *@xdxd* said, the game isn't in the best state currently, I don't have the patience to sit in menus for 2-3 minutes between each heist so I'm waiting until they add some sort of faster matchmaking, especially for solo play :(

[@fenixo7443]

hi !!!!!

[@ThisIsFun-fl8tb]

go away smelly

[@Marcmb]

Hi!!! Premiere starting VERY SOON now!

[@MakusinMeringue]

Sub 20 minute?

[@Marcmb]

Sub-20 would be nice! Sub-24 is barely doable with this rotation, and then there's some new rots to save another minute or two... so we're getting there! :D

[@payday2speedrun]

what is the best speedrun weapon? judge dredd! i mean judge HE ! how many speakers are there? thats thats thats... the the the... alarm alarm alarm... guys guys guys... thats too much success! show us the epic fails next time!they should do a 1000 xp lost for killing civvies! i wonder... when you did the first xp speedrun started! is the 1 D. store 18 bags still 1.27 M xp? because 99 to 100 is 1 M xp so your level 98 must be very near 99 to get 100!

[@Marcmb]

HE Judges for sure! Second Wind is just too overpowered for these runs. There's 1 voiceline for each pager, so lots of them! This one was quite a blunder though, I lost 8+ seconds with a single mistake :( But I do have some funny fails I could share! XP penalty for killing civs would be nice, since I try to never kill civs when it's possible :D As for the final DS18, that was 1,393,800 XP, so a bit less than 1.5 levels, but enough for 100!

[@adrianozhha]

devs making game harder to play with the higher difficulty chosen, making diffirent complicated hesits, mqking game for people to have fun. marcmb:

[@Marcmb]

Exactly! But speedrunning makes it even more fun, so it's a win-win :D